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Title: TAG, you're it!
Post by: Matt on June 08, 2003, 06:48:25 AM
This is a game we came up with a few months ago to stir up good Eastwood conversation, and to nudge some of our less talkative members to post.   It's a game of Tag.  I'll start by naming two members and asking them each an EASTWOOD-related question.   If they choose to answer their question, they will then be able to "tag" two more members with questions for them to answer.   You may not join in the game unless you are tagged.  But, if there's a very interesting question that is asked of someone else that you'd like to answer, by all means start a topic on the board in the appropriate forum.  This game is all about getting Eastwood conversation rolling and learning from each other's differing opinions.  And having fun! ;D

Here's a few tips for keeping the game fun and enjoyable for everyone:

If it's your turn to tag, please don't ask anything too personal and of course... keep all questions related to Eastwood and his movies.  

Try to involve members that you haven't seen posting much lately, to try to get them back into the board again.  

Don't ask too much of a member in your question.  The questions shouldn't feel like a homework assignment, but should be able to be answered relatively quickly and painlessly.  ;)  

You may want to IM (Instant Message) whoever you're posting your questions to so that they'll know they were tagged.  And, finally... don't forget to keep checking back yourself!

To try to find the right pace for the game, we will start with the rule that if you are tagged more than once in the same day, instead of tagging two more members with each question you answer, only tag two members with the first question you answer, and after that tag one member for each question you answer for the remainder of that day.

Whew... did I hit on everything?  If so, then .... (opens pocket watch, the chimes fill the room.  He cooly walks away and faces the others...) "Let's start."  :o  (el Indio ;))



eustressor:  (You get one of my favorite questions from the old game... )   You win the lottery! To raise money for one of Eastwood's favorite charities, he has given away a choice to the grand prize winner... work as Assistant Director on his next film (no pay involved) or take $1 million in tax-free hard, cold cash.  Which do you choose?

mgk:  You've been an Eastwood fan probably longer than anyone on this board.  Why would you say, that after all these years, you're still such a big fan?  If you could sum it up easily, what's his "secret" for you?



I've chosen two of our most active members to get the game rolling, but it would be great once we're moving along to call on some of our members who post less frequently, to try to get them more involved with the board.

Over to eustressor and mgk to keep the game rollin'.  :D
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Post by: eustressor on June 08, 2003, 08:04:08 AM
Well, I'd probably never hear the end of it from my family, but I'm a selfish bastard - I'd take the opportunity to be Assistant to Greatness. The things I could learn, the doors I could then knock on, the immeasurable honor - and the thrill! :)

bcm - If Meryl Streep had been unable or unwilling to play the role of Francesca, name the actress who you would have most liked to see play the part, and why.

Misty71 - What is your favorite ending to a Clint film, and why?
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Post by: mgk on June 08, 2003, 09:13:48 AM
One of the reasons Eastwood's movies are so easy to watch over and over is because of his quiet, understated approach to each character he portrays.  You just don't ever seem to get tired of watching him say so little but express so much.  In his directorial efforts, each movie seems to flow in such a natural way that you feel like you are actually there and watching everything unfold.  There's just a "naturalness" whether he's in front of the camera or behind it.  

I think the most important secret as to why I continue to be a fan of Eastwood's is because of his respect for the audience.  He completely avoids the "Hollywood" predictable stories and predictable endings and gives the audience the opportunity to discover things on their own, think for themselves.  In almost all of the movies he has directed, he has found a way to extract the best performances out of each and every actor ...no matter how small or how big their role...and each has probably given the best performance of their lives at the time.  

There isn't another actor/director who has made as many movies as Eastwood  that are such a joy to rewatch after thirty or forty years.  His blockbuster hits were always about such timely material and, if the truth be known, were ahead of their times.  What he calls his "small films" are unique in their ability to develop such charming, such explosive, such complex characters that you discover something new about them each time you watch them. There seems to be a never-ending new layer you can reveal.  And, he is a master at developing relationships between people at a pace that allows the audience to get to know these characters just as the characters get to know each another.

He's a one-of-a-kind and has given us an impressive list of films to enjoy over and over again.

Christopher
I notice you have a new avatar and it's from Bird.  What is your opinion of Bird and is there something that your really like about it....a favorite quote or a favorite scene?

DAmbrosia
You are doing an excellent job with your thread on the weapons that Eastwood has used in his movies.  What is your favorite weapon that he has ever used and why is it your favorite?
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Post by: Christopher on June 08, 2003, 11:53:15 AM
From mgk:
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Christopher
I notice you have a new avatar and it's from Bird.  What is your opinion of Bird and is there something that you really like about it....a favorite quote or a favorite scene?
Bird is another one of those Eastwood movies that I've only seen once, and that's probably been a year and a half ago, or so. I think it's just a great achievement. Forrest Whitaker gave a performance of a lifetime as Charlie Parker, really terrific and heartbreaking. The only scene that comes to mind right now is when Parker sends all those telegrams to his wife after he hears of his child's death. Seeing a man self destruct stays with you for a while.

Allycat: I recall asking you before what your favorite Eastwood movie was, so now: what's your least favorite Eastwood movie?

Red: Maybe you've answered a question like this before, but which movie does your name, Red, come from?
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Post by: bcm on June 08, 2003, 02:30:42 PM
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bcm - If Meryl Streep had been unable or unwilling to play the role of Francesca, name the actress who you would have most liked to see play the part, and why.
Aaah, I had avoided that question back in the discussion about Bridges. As I've said before, I don't know too many films. But the actress that I would choose is Licia Maglietta. She was born 1954 in Naples, so she wouldn't have to fake the accent  ;). Her age would fit more or less. And I saw her in Pane et Tulipani (bread and tulips), which is a story about a housewife away from her family too...And I liked her performance a lot in that movie.
(http://www.newsreview.com/issues/sacto/2001-12-13/filmpick-1.jpg)

philo: If Eastwood had assigned you to  add any extras on a DVD on one (and only one) movie of Eastwood, which one would you choose, and why?

Clyde: which Eastwood movie would you like to watch in the theater/cinema (again)? Please explain your choice.

Title: Re:TAG, you're it!
Post by: Clyde on June 08, 2003, 04:00:31 PM

Clyde: which Eastwood movie would you like to watch in the theater/cinema (again)? Please explain your choice.


One of the most enjoyable Clint film going experiences for me was going to see IN THE LINE OF FIRE.  First reason being it's a very good film.  The second reason I
would like to revisit this film in the theater again was that I felt this movie attracted a different audience.  In the theater I noticed it wasn't filled out with just Clint Eastwood fans -- there were young people in the audience and you could almost sense that they didn't really know who that old guy on the screen was.  They were just there to see a movie that had great word of mouth and was very entertaining.  It was kind of nice for me to experience a Clint flick with a generation who
is unfamiliar with Clint. Many Clint films I've seen in the theater were mostly viewed by guys with their friends. IN THE LINE OF FIRE I felt crossed over to different segments in our society and it made going to the theater a little more magical. I'd like to experience that again.

tag to:

CalGal: If you could show one Clint movie to someone who has never seen a Clint movie before,  which would it be and why?

Mr. Pants: Many Clint fans groan at even the mention of Clint's two monkey movies.  What do you feel about  Clint's highly successful  "Which Way" films?
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Post by: philo on June 08, 2003, 05:06:51 PM
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philo: If Eastwood had assigned you to  add any extras on a DVD on one (and only one) movie of Eastwood, which one would you choose, and why?


This is harder than it sounds, because the two I would have chosen (Dirty Harry and Josey Wales) have already had extras added to them. I didn't think they were that well done, so I have always felt a prime chance was missed on both of those.

I would love to do a super version of The Beguiled because nobody else will, but with Mr Siegel and the essential Miss Page and Miss Hartman no longer with us , kind of stops the project before it gets going.

I am forced to choose a Universal release (reason see below)

I therefore choose High plains drifter . My version would include the following ....

2.35:1 16:9 enhanced restoration from original Technicolor elements
Mono sound
Isolated music score
original 1972 featurette 6 min
new documentary 50 min
thearical trailer
6 x tv spots
4 x radio spots
full complete stills gallery
poster designs
Clint Estwood director : first short film on the making of The Beguiled (which is why I chose a Universal release)
 feature length Commentary (if allowed) from anyone involved .

Would people love to own this ??   :)


My questions

Conan :

Which Clint Estwood film do you wish you had been able to see on the big screen ?


Holden Pike :

Is there any British film that you think Clint could have played a leading role in ?


Philo .
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Post by: misty71 on June 09, 2003, 08:34:22 AM
Sorry guys if I took time, I wasnt home yesterday...My favorite ending to a clint film?I like the end of "escape from alcatraz" because we dont really know if they made it or not...I think they did thought... ;D

RAVENWIND: In wich CE movie would you have liked to play opposite clint, and why?

XIXHADO: Which is your favorite fight scene from a clint movie and why?
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Post by: Mr. Pants on June 09, 2003, 09:58:07 AM
Originally posted by Clyde
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Mr. Pants: Many Clint fans groan at even the mention of Clint's two monkey movies.  What do you feel about  Clint's highly successful  "Which Way" films?

Personally I really enjoyed them. I grew up with Eastwood's westerns and have only branched out to his other movies in recent years. I enjoy them because they are light hearted and a real joy to watch. Its nice to know Clint has a great sense of humor. It gives him a more rounded character as an actor and director to make some of the most violent and thrilling westerns, as well as some wonderfully funny comedies. I cringe at some of his movies but the "which way" films are a hit in my book.

KC: If you had a chance to talk with Eastwood face to face for five minutes, what would you ask him? What would you say?

the stranger: Name the movies you have seen that Lee Van Cleef plays in. Do not have to be Eastwood movies.
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Post by: D'Ambrosia on June 09, 2003, 09:55:41 PM
DAmbrosia
You are doing an excellent job with your thread on the weapons that Eastwood has used in his movies.  What is your favorite weapon that he has ever used and why is it your favorite?


mgk, I’d like to wait after I finish my dissertation before I answer that one.  I had answered a similar question in the old thread but I’m not so sure, I’ll get back to this one…
Title: Re:TAG, you're it!
Post by: mgk on June 09, 2003, 10:11:12 PM
No problem, D'Amb.  Come back to it when you're ready.

In the meantime, I'll tag someone else so we can keep things moving.

Doug:

Which Eastwood directed film do you think is his best directorial effort?  Explain why you have chosen that particular film.

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Post by: KC on June 10, 2003, 01:01:20 AM
KC: If you had a chance to talk with Eastwood face to face for five minutes, what would you ask him? What would you say?
Assuming I wasn't so tongue-tied that I couldn't speak at all ... I'd probably say, "Clint, can't I have ten minutes?" ;)

Seriously, I think I'd just try to thank him for all the pleasure he's given me with his films over his long career, and express my hope that he'll go on making films for a long time yet.

eustressor: If you could compose one discussion question for A Perfect World that we moderators didn't ask, what would it be? If you could give us some idea of how you'd answer it, that would be great, too ... ;)

Matt: I know you've been watching a lot of Hitchcock lately ... Can you see Eastwood as the leading man in any existing Hitchcock movie (of the ones you've seen)? If so, which one? If not ... why not?
Title: Re:TAG, you're it!
Post by: Matt on June 10, 2003, 04:37:38 AM

Matt: I know you've been watching a lot of Hitchcock lately ... Can you see Eastwood as the leading man in any existing Hitchcock movie (of the ones you've seen)? If so, which one? If not ... why not?


I could see Clint back in the 60's/70's stepping into the role of Barry Kane (originally portrayed by Robert Cummings) in Saboteur more than any of the other roles in the Hitchcock films I've seen.  I think he'd fit the part of a wartime airplane factory worker better than the more aristocratic roles portrayed by Cary Grant, and although I'd love him to be in my favorite, Marnie, I can't quite see him in Sean Connery's role there either.  The films I've seen with James Stewart as leading man don't seem to suit him quite as well as Saboteur, but they're closer than the others.  I definitely can't imagine him in Psycho or The Birds.  

Barry Kane in Saboteur is wrongly accused, running from the authorities, meeting a girl along the way who at first hates him and then can't help but fall for him and tag along (at first begrudgingly and then wholeheartedly) to help him out.  Hey, is this another film like The Gauntlet? ;)

I'd also love to see him in the scene with the blind man... that was just fantastic.

And just think, KC, he'd be in your neck of the woods again for the finale!  ;D

AKA:  Name an actress you'd like to see work with Clint. What kind of character would you like to see her portray?

Brendan:  If you could go back in time and be Clint Eastwood for one day of his life, which day would you choose?  Maybe it would be a day he filmed a specific scene from one of his movies, or any other exciting day.
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Post by: Brendan on June 10, 2003, 06:43:09 AM
Brendan:  If you could go back in time and be Clint Eastwood for one day of his life, which day would you choose?  Maybe it would be a day he filmed a specific scene from one of his movies, or any other exciting day.

Thanks Matt.

Hmmm. Theres three days I could think of. 1. The day he shot the Unforgiven ending when Munny shot Little Bill. 2. The day the ending was shot for Dirty Harry or 3. The day he won Best Director and Best Picture at the Oscars.

But I would probably pick the day at the Oscars. Just so I could know what it feels like to hear your name called out, and the audience start cheering for you. And even the feeling of being able to hold the Academy Award. Its something that I'd probably never get to do, so doing it that way would be a blast.

Cal - What movie made in the 1990's do you think Clint would have been great for? (In a starring or supporting role)

Eustressor - Whats your most favourite scene in all of Clint's movies?
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Post by: eustressor on June 10, 2003, 09:32:54 AM
eustressor: If you could compose one discussion question for A Perfect World that we moderators didn't ask, what would it be? If you could give us some idea of how you'd answer it, that would be great, too ... ;)

Ack! Oop! But you moderators did such a good job, bringing up so many points I'd never even considered...maybe, "Eustressor, why don't you let somebody else have the last word for a change?" ;)

OK seriously, how about this?

A PERFECT WORLD: Style and Technique: 8. Realism
On the whole, did you find the events and characters in this movie to be realistic and believable? Were there any particular elements (character, scene, etc.) you felt were unrealistic? If so, did it diminish your enjoyment of the film?


Short answers - Yes, yes, and no.

I would consider this a romantic movie, in the classical sense, which out of the gate lowers the premium on realism. Still, on the whole, there was a fine air of authenticity to the setting, as well as the primary character development. It felt like 1963 Texas, and the characters were really sweating in the heat.

But... the scene outside of Friendly's felt a lot like something out of a Burt Reynold's film. Hey, let's smash some cop cars! They deserve it 'cause they're incompetent! And when Red's trailer goes galavanting through the woods, pulls up right next to the truck, and then smashes into the trees without a single occupant being seriously injured, well, one can almost picture Dom Deluise as "Captain Chaos", bounding out of the wreck and tripping on his cape.

It's never bothered me - in fact, I enjoy the rollicking fun of both scenes every time I watch it. But after drumming up my imaginary question, I had to sit and think about my answer, and it occured to me that these scenes were awfully light-hearted, almost a romp in comparison to the rest of the picture.

I don't think Burt came by and offered any suggestions during the filming of these two scenes. What I do think is that, and this reminds me of an old songwriting trick, by inserting moments of levity and abandon into the film - "Gee this is fun, woohoo!" - it set's the viewer up to be completely punched in the belly by the climax of the film. I think it was a deliberate excercise in dynamics for effect, and one more way Clint invites the audience to participate in the story.

And the fact that these two scenes never detracted from my enjoyment of the film to me says a lot about Clint's seemless ability to effectively create something which is a bit of a rarity these days - suspension of disbelief. I never even noticed, until I really thought about it.

"Red's gonna be pissed!"  ;D ;D ;D

OK, questions:

little_bill - What's your favorite Gene Hackman line in Unforgiven? Who does he say it to, in which scene, and why does it stand out to you?

mgk - Name two things about The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly that you feel are often overlooked by critics and casual viewers, who may feel it's just a really long, but otherwise typical shoot 'em up cowboy movie. I'm speaking of TGTBTU specifically, independent of the rest of The Man With No Name trilogy  ;)
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Post by: Ravenwind on June 10, 2003, 10:15:52 AM
So,its my turn.
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RAVENWIND:In which CE movie would you have liked to play opposite Clint and why?
Well,thats not an easy one.If i had to choose it would have to be "Outlaw Josey Wales".Because its among my personal favorits and i liked the part that John Vernon played.It was a strong,meaningful part.
I hope you are satisfied with this answer. ;)

Then its my turn to ask isnt it?

Daisy Abigael: What is your favorite fight in an Eastwood movie?
Nightwing: In which movie of Clint's did Dennis Hopper have a cameo part?
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Post by: Doug on June 10, 2003, 11:05:07 AM

Doug:

Which Eastwood directed film do you think is his best directorial effort?  Explain why you have chosen that particular film.

Well, I feel strongly about his directing in several movies, but Unforgiven has to be it.  Here he was returning to a genre that he'd already done so much to impact, and he returns with a script that allows him to explore western themes in entirely new ways, and to me it's obvious he thought more about this project than any other.  To me the film looks more like an art film, with every shot purposely planned out for maximum impact.  Yet the pacing is perfect, with the action coming at the right moments.  His building of supsense is right on.  And the film just looks awesome.  Sorry I can't go into more detail, but I have packing to do as I'm flying back to my home town in two days.  (So I may be a little scarse for the next two weeks. :))

My two tags:

Christopher: If you had to give up your board name and choose one from a Clint movie, what would the new name be?

Lilly: Who's your favorite male co-star (supporting actor) in a Clint movie?  And why.

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Post by: Brendan on June 10, 2003, 02:01:03 PM
Nightwing: In which movie of Clint's did Dennis Hopper have a cameo part?

Hang Em' High.

Eustressor I dont know if you saw my tag from earlier or not and since we have turned a new page, I'll just repost both my ones from before.

Cal - What movie made in the 1990's do you think Clint would have been great for? (In a starring or supporting role)

Eustressor - Whats your most favourite scene in all of Clint's movies?
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Post by: eustressor on June 10, 2003, 02:51:47 PM
Well, it's got to be from Unforgiven, right? ;)

Actually it's almost a tie, but Mr. Munny wins by a nose. My favorite Eastwood scene ever would be that beautiful, ominous scene in Unforgiven just before the climax of the film, when Munny and The Schofield Kid are waiting under that tree, on that hillside, with those threatening clouds moving in, as they wait for that distant rider to arrive.

The words, gestures, and interim silences in this scene to me sum up the whole point of this movie. It all strikes home with terrible effect when the news of Ned's death is announced. I love how Munny falls off the wagon at exactly the moment his true name and history are revealed by the terrified young lady. Beauty, beauty, dark beauty... :)

A close second is Tuco's four minute whirlwind graveyard sequence as the haunting Morricone score swells to a crescendo in The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly. Again, for me the moment of greatest revelation and enjoyment as a viewer occurs immediately before the climax of the movie.

I don't think that similarity is an accident. Clint made a deliberate nod to Leone, as well as Don Siegle, in the credits of Unforgiven.

MC - If you had to pick one, which would you rather have future generations remember Clint for - his acting skills or his directing skills? Why?
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Post by: mgk on June 10, 2003, 02:53:26 PM
 :o :o :o Aaaarrrrggghhhh!!!!!!!!!  :'(

You are not going to believe this.  I had my response to Eustressor's question answered and ready to submit when my computer froze up and I lost it all.

I shall return after I search my brain for the answer that I once had. :P

Sorry for the delay.
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Post by: eustressor on June 10, 2003, 02:55:47 PM
Ouch! :'(

I had that happen with an entire article on Mystica, once - now I try to write long posts in a word processor and paste them over.

I feel your pain  >:( :-\ :)
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Post by: mgk on June 10, 2003, 02:57:02 PM
 :) Thanks.....because it does hurt.
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Post by: Lilly on June 10, 2003, 02:59:16 PM
Who's your favorite male co-star (supporting actor) in a Clint movie?  And why.
:)Thanks for the tag Doug.  I think it has to be Lee Van Cleef.  Eli Wallach and John Malkovitch are great too, but Van Cleef grabbed my attention from the first time I saw him.  I prefer him in For A Few Dollars More to The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly, possibly because it's easier to like Colonel Mortimer than Angel Eyes, or maybe because I saw FFDM first.  He is so striking, with his distinctive chiselled features and confident, enigmatic stare.  He just seemed made for the role, and was a brilliant counterpart to Clint's No Name character.  He makes a wonderful villain, but I liked him as the more benign Mortimer, and enjoyed his portrayal of the softer side of the hard-headed bounty hunter.  

(http://www.sunpoint.net/~shobary/actors/Lee_van_Cleef_ForFew_04.jpg) (http://www.sunpoint.net/~shobary/actors/Lee_van_Cleef_ForFew_05.jpg)

Tagging...

Palm: I know you're not much of a fan of Unforgiven, so I'm curious to know whether you aren't keen on Clint's western films in general, or just that one...which is your favourite of his westerns, and why?  

Agent: Like me you've been gone from the board for a while, but maybe you'll see this... Most people dislike re-makes, but if you had to be involved in scriptwriting/directing a re-make of any Clint film, which would you choose, and why?  If you can, any brief thoughts on how you'd like to change the script, style or cast?
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Post by: Matt on June 10, 2003, 03:05:27 PM
Agree with your choice completely, Lilly.  As Leone said... he looks like a hawk.  Just an absolutely inspired casting coup! And to think, the Mortimer role was supposed to go to Lee Marvin, but he wound up tied up in another project and couldn't do it.  Nothing against Marvin, but that role simply couldn't be better with anyone other than Van Cleef.

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Post by: mgk on June 10, 2003, 03:51:55 PM
mgk - Name two things about The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly that you feel are often overlooked by critics and casual viewers, who may feel it's just a really long, but otherwise typical shoot 'em up cowboy movie. I'm speaking of TGTBTU specifically, independent of the rest of The Man With No Name trilogy.   :)

Wow!  Hard question!

The first thing that came to my mind when I read your question was Eli Wallach’s performance in The Good, the Bad and the Ugly.  No matter how many accolades have been bestowed on him by critics for his performance in this movie, they couldn’t possibly be enough.  He was so cunning, so funny, so unpredictable, so dangerous and Wallach captured all of those things with such a unique style that made this great movie just that much better.

The second thing I thought of was Ennio Morricone’s haunting, unrestrained, perfect musical score.  The score was so important to this film that it almost became a fourth “character” in the film.  When we changed moods or began to suspect something was about to happen, it was most likely due to Morricone’s score whispering to us and making subtle suggestions.

However, I also thought of a third thing (which you didn’t ask for).  But, it’s impossible to think of this film without being reminded of the Sergio Leone unique style of directing.  His use of the desert as a vast wasteland drove home the fact that these people were so isolated from the rest of the world and so lost just among themselves.  Leone’s visionary ability to know exactly when a widescreen camera angle was needed and when a close-up was even better, glued us to the screen where we found ourselves completely lost and absorbed in this story.

It’s a simple story really.....three men, greedy for gold, and may the fastest gun win.  We’ve seen a dozen movies with this same theme, so why is this one so much better than all the rest?  Other than my plug for the Eli Wallach performance, it is my opinion that The Good, the Bad and the Ugly far surpassed all other films of this genre because of the superb vision of Sergio Leone whose exquisite ability to perfectly film and edit a movie into a package of sheer beauty and delight left us with a classic western that has excelled above all others.  Add the perfect musical score by Morricone and you have story-telling at its best.

(Did I come close to what you were looking for?  :P)


Matt: Which future Eastwood DVD release are you looking the most forward to owning and why? ;)

KC:  I know that Unforgiven is your favorite Eastwood film (and for good reasons), but what other Eastwood directed film would you single out as being one of his very best...and, why?
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Post by: Matt on June 10, 2003, 04:34:12 PM

Matt: Which future Eastwood DVD release are you looking the most forward to owning and why? ;)


Well M, I think I'm most looking forward to Pink Cadillac.  Or maybe City Heat....  Great scripts, great chemistry between the leading characters, some first-rate directing by Buddy Van Horn and Richard Benjamin, and just about the most fun you can have in two hours...

(Anyone who believes that, I've got some swamp land to sell you in Florida.  Right now, that would be in my front yard since it's just rained about 5" in the past hour. )

Now, honestly... mgk knows the answer to this one.  See that wink she put at the end... ;D

The real answer is Tightrope.  Who doesn't want to see Clint as a sex investigator?  (AKA... you didn't think I'd let you live that one down too easily, did you. ;) )

Seriously, this movie has everything I like...  complex and interesting characters that we care about (Wes and Beryl) and GREAT chemistry between them.  You know, Geneviève Bujold isn't the most beautiful co-star Clint's worked with, but she's probably the most attractive to me when you take in everything about her character.  Sexy, intelligent, strong, gentle, loving, and unlike so many other female leading roles... she has no sarcastic attitude.   What a relief.

Bujold's performance is outstanding all around.  Perhaps my favorite scene in Tightrope is also one of my favorites in all Eastwood, thanks to the chemistry between Wes and Beryl.  Here it is... the "oyster" scene:

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BERYL: You didn't have to bring me here to tell me that.

WES: No.

BERYL: So why did you?

WES: Well I saw you working out in that gym and I was wondering what you'd be like.

BERYL: (Nodding) Why the, uh... sudden interest?

WES: I was wondering if you came alone.

BERYL: What else were you wondering?

WES: You really want to know?

BERYL: Yeah.

WES: What it would be like to lick the sweat off your body.

BERYL: (Laughing, a little embarrassed and shocked) Do you... do you always say exactly what's on your mind?

WES: You don't like it?

BERYL: Could be a little more subtle.

WES: What I said?

BERYL: More the way you said it.

WES: How would you like me to say it?

BERYL: As if you're not saying it to somebody every night.

WES: What else would you like?

BERYL: I'd like to find out what's underneath the front you put on.

WES: (Smiles) Maybe you wouldn't like what you'd find.

BERYL: Maybe you're scared I would.

And to make Beryl even more perfect... she was willing to be handcuffed to his bed.  ;D  (That's what you were waiting for, right, M.  Okay, you got it.  ;) )

There's more reasons to love Tightrope, but the characters are the main reason for me.  The script is great, the story is a very intereting one, it's a daring role for Eastwood to have taken (especially the scene in the gay bar "Maybe I already have.")  Gotta give Eastwood credit for playing such a dark and disturbed character.  And the directing (by Eastwood, although the credits show Tuggle as director) is some of his best prior to Unforgiven.

I have never seen it in widescreen format.  I can't wait to get that DVD and see it properly, without all the grain of VHS.  Only about three more months! :)

I'll be back with tags.
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Post by: Matt on June 10, 2003, 04:47:06 PM
Here's my tags.  (I know, I really only owe one, but the game is getting a slower start this time than last, so I'm gonna try to get it going a little.)

Mr. Pants:  Don't know your marital status, but if you were a single man, which CHARACTER (not necessarily the actress), out of all of Clint's leading lady roles, would you most like to take out on a date.   And why?

Lt. Briggs:  You've met a lot of celebrities in your line of work... have you ever met Eastwood?  If you did, tell us about it.  If not, if the opportunity arose, what would you say to him?
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Post by: AKA23 on June 10, 2003, 06:26:26 PM

The real answer is Tightrope.  Who doesn't want to see Clint as a sex investigator?  (AKA... you didn't think I'd let you live that one down too easily, did you. ;) )

MGK isn't the ONLY one that knew the answer to this one! HEHE ;) Yeah, Matt's going to have LOTS of fun when this one rolls out on DVD. He won't be able to get enough!  :P

Nah, I'm just kidding.

Sex investigator? Come on, Matt! Now how long ago was that? We're still talking about it. Geez, talk about not letting things go and harping on insignificant details..hehe...but, yeah, anyway, we can put it under the umbrella of some kind of homicide investigator if we don't want to call it what it really is! Don't want to get too specific so we have to lump it all together.. HEHE..J/K Just ask yourself this. Was he investigating sexual crimes, the murder of women, murder of prostitutes, wasn't this guy a sexual predator? Wasn't Block trying to catch him? Sex crimes..homicide investigator...sex investigator (at least in this case)...hehe....wrong word to use, but hey, I can live with it.  ;) and so will you.

 :o
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Post by: AKA23 on June 10, 2003, 06:34:34 PM

AKA:  Name an actress you'd like to see work with Clint. What kind of character would you like to see her portray?

I think Matt more or less knows the answer to this one as well! Hmm...well, there are a lot of great actresses out there, but I only have very few that I really like. I think probably my top two choices that I can think of right now would be Angelina Jolie and Michelle Pfeiffer. Both are great actresses, in my opinion, but they don't always choose the best roles, and I think their talent is sometimes not worthy of the film projects that they find themselves in. Someone like Eastwood, who can consistently bring out the best performance from even actors who much of us don't like, such as Kevin Costner, would be great for either of these two. I'd like to see them in any role with Clint, really, and one that he'd be acting alongside them in. I can see Angelina Jolie working alongside Clint in thriller/murder investigation type film. Michelle Pfeiffer, not sure, but I'm sure she'd be great. Did I answer the question as to what kind of character. Agree with my choices, Matt?

I thought I chose two pretty good choices. I believe Jodie Foster would be a top choice for you as well.

Will have to come back with my tags.
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Post by: Matt on June 10, 2003, 07:05:08 PM
Yes, Angelina Jolie is a great actress and I agree that she doesn't always pick the best roles.  I'd like to see her play more serious roles such as she did in Girl, Interrupted.  I haven't seen many of her films, but other than that one, she always seems to play a super sexual character, and if she doesn't protect her image with more serious roles, she may find herself out of work when she's older.

Michelle Pfeiffer is another good choice.  And of course... my girl Jodie. :)
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Post by: Christopher on June 10, 2003, 08:19:55 PM
The real answer is Tightrope.  Who doesn't want to see Clint as a sex investigator?  (AKA... you didn't think I'd let you live that one down too easily, did you. ;) )
(http://smilies.crowd9.com/contrib/sally/lol.gif)

Now, for my question
From Doug:
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Christopher: If you had to give up your board name and choose one from a Clint movie, what would the new name be?
Wow, I've never thought about this before. I guess if I had, you wouldn't know my real name. ;)
In light of how Matt answered that question that I took that quote from, I'm thinking along the lines of Wes Block right now.

But I'd probably end up going with Thunderbolt.
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Post by: Christopher on June 10, 2003, 08:27:29 PM
My tags:

dannyman891115: What's your favorite Eastwood movie?

Brendan: If a friend of yours had never seen an Eastwood movie, and you could pick one out for him/her to watch as his/her first, which movie would you pick?

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Post by: Dannyman on June 10, 2003, 08:37:47 PM
My favorite Clint movie! Is that a trick question I love them all.  :) I would tell my friend to watch.........The Good Bad and the Ugly because of its funny moments like all clint movies and it has a very good storyline.
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Post by: Matt on June 10, 2003, 08:38:58 PM
Good choice, Dannyman... and don't forget to tag two more members. :)
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Post by: Dannyman on June 10, 2003, 08:40:39 PM
How do I tag them?
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Post by: Matt on June 10, 2003, 08:41:53 PM
You just pick two members, any two... and ask them each a question... any question so long as it's Eastwood related.
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Post by: Dannyman on June 10, 2003, 09:08:03 PM
mkat71: Which of Clint's movies would you have liked to co-star and why?

bigdai: What is your favorite Clint Eastwood western?
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Post by: Brendan on June 10, 2003, 09:42:55 PM
Brendan: If a friend of yours had never seen an Eastwood movie, and you could pick one out for him/her to watch as his/her first, which movie would you pick?

Well theres three I could think of. The Good, The Bad and The Ugly, Dirty Harry and Unforgiven. I considered Bridges, but then I wouldnt think a movie like would be good for first viewing of Clint.

Its hard to narrow it down, but I probably wouldnt go with Unforgiven first, becuase I would them to see GBU and Josey Wales first.

Its hard to choose between Dirty Harry and GBU. In the end, I would probably pick Dirty Harry, them I would show them GBU, Josey Wales and Unforgiven.

Come to think of it, when one of my friends first got a DVD-Rom installed on his computer, I showed him Dirty Harry as a way of testing the thing out. That was the first Eastwood movie he had seen.

Anyway, moving on with new tags:

Conan - If Clint was going to help Conan O'Brien do a skit on Late Night, what skit would you want to see him do?

Lilly - Pick any movie made in the 90's, that you think Clint would have good for in a starring or supporting role, and name the character as well.
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Post by: KC on June 10, 2003, 10:40:22 PM
KC:  I know that Unforgiven is your favorite Eastwood film (and for good reasons), but what other Eastwood directed film would you single out as being one of his very best...and, why?

Well, it probably depends on what I've seen lately ... could be Bird, could be A Perfect World, could be The Bridges of Madison County ...

For tonight, I'll go with The Bridges of Madison County... and say it's because Eastwood does such an admirable job of converting a piece of sub-literature to a deeply moving film romance ... and he hands the film over to the woman, whose story it becomes, at that!

New tags:
Lilly: Glad you're back. In your travels in the U.S., did you see any place that you think would make a good setting for an Eastwood film (aside from the ones that have already been in Eastwood films, of course!)

Concorde: Glad YOU'RE back! Which feat of marksmanship by an Eastwood character is your favorite? Do you think it would be possible in real life?
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Post by: Mr. Pants on June 11, 2003, 01:14:47 AM
Originally posted by Matt:
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Mr. Pants:  Don't know your marital status, but if you were a single man, which CHARACTER (not necessarily the actress), out of all of Clint's leading lady roles, would you most like to take out on a date.  And why?
Well after much thought and deliberation...  ;) I came down to the actress who plays in Hang 'em High. She is the prettiest and the most complex. Nothing like a little challenge if you are going to go for it!  ;D

New Tags-
misty71: What was the actors name who played the midget in High Plains Drifter?

Nightwing: How many total Academy Award nominations have Clint's movies recieved over the years?
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Post by: Matt on June 11, 2003, 04:47:49 AM
Just a note to our "taggers" that we're not really looking for trivia questions here when you tag someone.  The game is about learning how other members feel about Eastwood movies, gathering their opinions etc.  

Misty and Nightwing, go ahead and answer Mr. Pants' questions. I just wanted to make it a little clearer what we're looking for here, since I noticed Ravenwind also asked a trivia question in one of his tags.  I guess it's okay, but that's not really the point of this particular game.  :)
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Post by: Brendan on June 11, 2003, 07:09:20 AM
Nightwing: How many total Academy Award nominations have Clint's movies recieved over the years?

For movies Clint has directed (and possibly starred in) its 14.

The Outlaw Josey Wales - Best Music Score

Bird - Best Sound

Heartbreak Ridge - Best Sound

Unforgiven - Best Actor
                  Best Supporting Actor
                  Best Director
                  Best Picture
                  Best Film Editing
                  Best Writing (Written directly for the screen)
                  Best Sound
                  Best Cinematography
                  Best Art Direction/Set Decoration
                   
The Bridges of Madison County - Best Actress

Space Cowboys - Best Effects/Sound Effects Editing

For films he just starred in, its 5.

Paint Your Wagon - Best Music Score

Thunderbolt & Lightfoot - Best Supporting Actor

In The Line of Fire - Best Supporting Actor
                             Best Writing (Written directly for the screen)
                             Best Film Editing

So altogether its 19 nominations.  8)


KC - Do you really think that Unforgiven deserved to win the Best Picture Academy Award? Why? (If you want, compare it to the other four nominated films)

D'Amb - If Bogart and Eastwood could have starred together in either one of their films, which one would it have to be?
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Post by: misty71 on June 11, 2003, 09:15:08 AM
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misty71: What was the actors name who played the midget in High Plains Drifter?

Gee Im terrible at questions like this! But I did a Yahoo search, and Bill Curtis is the answer.ok, my tags

LILLY:What do you think is the most romantic scene in an eastwood film and why?

MGK:In all of CE westerns what cowboy(worn by CE) hat did you like best and why?
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Post by: Mr. Pants on June 11, 2003, 09:25:18 AM
Hey guys, sorry about the trivia questions. I am still figuring out how everything works. Good answers by the way!  ;D
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Post by: D'Ambrosia on June 11, 2003, 10:36:14 AM
Oh, that's a good one Brendan.  Off the top of my head, I'd have to say City Heat.  Eastwood would still be in the role of Lieutenant Speer but I would substitute Bogie for Burt Reynolds in the role of Mike Murphy.  It would have been perfect role for Bogart, right up his alley in fact.  Directed by John Huston or Howard Hawks made back in the 40's in black and white.  This really could have been a good movie if things were just done a little differently.

A Bogart Movie that Eastwood would have been great in would have been The Treasure of The Sierra Madre 1948  Bogart would have still played the part of Fred C. Dobbs but substitute Eastwood for Tim Holt in the role of Bob Curtain, Dobbs prospecting partner.  Bogart is at his best and on top of his game in this movie about greed and paranoia.  It's great to watch all these characters unravel as the movie progresses and certainly would have brought out the best in Eastwood (acting wise).  This movie is a lot of fun to watch and great stuff in here as the old "Brother can you spare a dime... line Bogart keeps throwing at John Huston at the beginning of the movie has been parodied in so many things.  And of course the famous Badges?.....Badges?....We don't need no STINKING BADGES!!! line is timeless.  A must see for any Bogart novice.

Tags:
Brendan:  If you could cast Eastwood in any John Carpenter movie which one would it be and why?

Mr. Pants:  What was it specifically that turned you into an Eastwood Fan?    
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Post by: Mr. Pants on June 11, 2003, 11:02:54 AM
Originally posted by DAmbrosia:
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Mr. Pants:  What was it specifically that turned you into an Eastwood Fan?    
Well I have always been a cowboy at heart. John Wayne has been my hero since childhood. He was the one who made me love westerns and six shooters. As I grew up I started to lean towards more mature westerns and Eastwood was there to fill the void. As everyone knows his themes are often dark and the hero can sometimes be construed as evil or good depending on the viewer's insight.

As I continue to watch his movies over and over again I am starting to notice how complex his plots can be and how he often times leaves the viewer to fill in the story. Its things like that, that make his movies timeless classics in my book. Just can't get enough of 'em!

New tags-

Doug: Whats your favorite spaghetti western and why?

Conan: Which CE movie do you cringe the most while watching?
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Post by: Brendan on June 11, 2003, 11:44:41 AM
Brendan:  If you could cast Eastwood in any John Carpenter movie which one would it be and why?

Good one.

I cant really see Clint playing Dr. Loomis in Halloween or even Jack Crow in Vampires. But I can see him in Kurt Russells role of MacReady in The Thing.

I think Clint could've played it mostly the same as Russell did, with the quiet seriousness and also the bright intensity. And it would've been great to see Clint battle space aliens, in payment for abducting are board members.  ;D


Conan - What horror movie do you think Clint would have been good in?
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Post by: mgk on June 11, 2003, 11:59:51 AM
MGK:In all of CE westerns what cowboy(worn by CE) hat did you like best and why?

Misty, I have always liked the hat Eastwood wore in Two Mules for Sister Sara.  Borrowing a picture from Matt's great avatars that are free for everyone to use, and can be found HERE (http://www.clinteastwood.org/forums/index.php?board=10;action=display;threadid=82;start=0), this is the hat Eastwood wore in that movie.
(http://home.swfla.rr.com/mattreigns/twomules2.gif)
For some reason that hat just looks really good on him and I really like the leather strip weaved in and out just above the brim of the hat.  ( :-[ Have no idea what that is called but maybe someone else does.)

bcm: Out of all of the Eastwood films that you are familiar with, what animal would you like to have as your very own?

AKA:  Is there an Eastwood movie that you really like that has a scene in it that you would like to change to make it even better?  If so, what movie/scene and how would you change it to make it better?
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Post by: bcm on June 12, 2003, 06:10:50 AM
 :)  thanks mgk for tagging me, and for tagging me with a question I can answer easily! In case someone hadn't known so far: I like horses! So, the pick wasn't too hard. I haven't seen all the western movies yet, maybe there is still a beautiful horse to come, but so far I prefer the  one he's riding on when coming into the town in FFD.  ;)  ;D

No, I prefer the black one in GBU. There are different reasons for choosing that one. One reason is, this way I can find out if that horse gaites or not (hello graciante  ;))

allycat: on the old tag-game there was a question asked to Daisy, and you said you'd have liked to have that one. Well, here we go (I quote Matt): When looking over Easwtood's film career, do you feel, for the most part, that women are portrayed as strong or weak characters, and would you consider him a feminist filmmaker?

D'Ambrosia: what was first in your life: your love for Eastwood movies, or your love for guns? Are these related (as for example getting interested in guns because of the movies?)
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Post by: Conan on June 12, 2003, 02:49:40 PM
  I was traveling and just got back...Sorry for missing the tags, I will catch up either tonight or tomorrow.
  Btw, starting June 22nd I will be gone for a month - in case I get tagged during that time period.
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Post by: D'Ambrosia on June 12, 2003, 07:29:14 PM
Hope my answer is not too boring but here it goes…

I guess Guns.  I really started shooting at around 7 or 8 in around ’78 or so, Although I’d had seen Easstwood movies around that time I didn’t become a die hard  fan until around –83 or ’84 sneaking into Sudden Impact and being introduced to the The man with no name trilogy…

Growing up here in Ohio one of my fondest memories as a child was visiting my Grandfathers farm in Kentucky.  I can remember starting with BB guns and working up to shooting my fathers Remington 22 long.  A beautiful semi-automatic that he won in a raffle at a drug store in our neighborhood.  The owner was an ex-German fighter pilot from WWII and actually was known to have shot robbers that attempted any theft.  .  I can remembers shooting my grandfathers Remington Sweet 16 gauge semi-automatic shotgun for the first time and it scaring the you know what out of me, but then I grew to love it.  My grandfather also owned a snub-nose  Colt .38 Special and only on very rare occasions was I allowed to fire this gun.  I got to become quite a shot and on going to summer camp I mangaged to take home all the  trophies for marksmanship.  At the age of fourteen my favorite TV show at the time was the A-Team and the talk between my friends was the stainless steel Ruger Mini 14’s they started using during the second season, so I saved up my paper route money and the very first gun I bought for $400 bucks was a Ruger Mini 14 in 1984.  Man , my friends were impressed.  But being in Columbus I never had a whole lot of opportunity to fire the gun.  The muzzle velocity is so high on this weapon that bullet can travel  a couple of miles so my shooting the gun was limited to once again visits to my Grandfathers farm.  I got so good with the gun that I could field strip it blindfolded completely and put it back together in less then a minute and a half.

But anyway, my knowledge of guns has always been with me since a young age.  My best friends that grew up across the street from me were Scott and Jerry Patton, directly related to the General.  They had all kinds of military stuff and we played army all the time in the neighborhood.  When I moved across town and made new friends in ’83 I met the friend that turned me on to the Man with no name deal, (as I have told that story a zillon times in the past on this board.)  We always were watching movies and he was fascinated by the fact while watching any movie he could simply asked “what kind of gun is that”  and I always had an answer…

Here is the closest image to what my Rugar Mini 14 looks like…
(http://www.calssportingarmory.com/Ruger%20Images/RugerMini14SSGB1.jpg)


My tags are:

Conan:  “Why don’t you like the character of Bronco Billy”? ;)
 
KC: “ If I were to buy a book on Eastwood, besides yours of course, which one should I get?”
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Post by: Conan on June 12, 2003, 08:02:30 PM
Philo...
Which Clint Estwood film do you wish you had been able to see on the big screen ?

Although I like "The Outlaw Josey Wales" better, there is something about "The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly" (other than its awesomeness :) ) that makes me want to see it on the big screen.

Brendan/Nightwing...
If Clint was going to help Conan O'Brien do a skit on Late Night, what skit would you want to see him do?

Dirty Harry arrests The Master*****g Bear

Mr. Pants...
Which CE movie do you cringe the most while watching?

I don't watch "Paint Your Wagon", but if I did see it again, I would cringe.  Mainly when Lee Marvin starts singing (arggh, the humanity...)

Brendan/Nightwing...
What horror movie do you think Clint would have been good in?

"Salem's Lot".  Mainly because I really liked it despite a weak cast.  In other words, Clint could only make it better.

D'Amb...
Why don’t you like the character of Bronco Billy?

"Bronco Billy" is a good flick and I don't hate the Billy character...I just didn't like him near as much as most of Clint's other characters, he just rubs me the wrong way.


  I owe six tags, I'll put them up tomorrow.
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Post by: Brendan on June 12, 2003, 08:06:30 PM
Brendan/Nightwing...
If Clint was going to help Conan O'Brien do a skit on Late Night, what skit would you want to see him do?

Dirty Harry arrests The Master*****g Bear

 ;D

Good choice. I'd like to see Clint and Conan go driving.
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Post by: Lilly on June 12, 2003, 08:22:56 PM
Pick any movie made in the 90's, that you think Clint would have good for in a starring or supporting role, and name the character as well.
:) Cheers Brendan.  Man, this is a pretty tough one for me because until very recently I wasn't much of a movie watcher, and haven't seen many 90's films.  Speaking generally, I like to see Clint in films with a lot of character development, and where his persona is more vulnerable than in his earlier "tough guy" roles; parts like he took in The Bridges of Madison County and Unforgiven.  I can't think of any particular 90's movie which would have really suited him.  One possibility that came to mind was the leading role in JFK, but I was very young when I saw that so can't really remember enough to judge how he would have fitted in.  

On a completely different track... I didn't think much of Star Wars: Episode 1, but how cool would it have been to see Jedi Master Eastwood wield his light sabre against the Dark Side?!  ;D  I reckon he'd have made a great job of decapitating Ja Ja Binx! ;D (http://indigo.ie/~owenc/starwars/images/fan_gifs/DUEL3.gif)

In your travels in the U.S., did you see any place that you think would make a good setting for an Eastwood film (aside from the ones that have already been in Eastwood films, of course!)
:) Thanks KC.  Cool question.  I fell in love with the landscape of the southwest, and there is so much of it that would be a marvellous backdrop to a movie, particularly a western.  Monument Valley is unique and stunning, but has been used so often in movies that it's become a cliche of the West.  I loved the eastern Sierra, but I think Pale Rider was set in that area.  Certainly Joe Kidd was filmed in the Alabama Hills near Lone Pine, but didn't use the landscape to it's potential.  I love the barren, windswept flats between the eastern edge of the Sierra Nevada and Death Valley.  
(http://www.abmedia.com/astro/yosemite/sierra-manzanar.jpg)
(Photo from Chris Cook's website (http://www.abmedia.com/astro/).)

There are many lava flows, reminiscent of a moonscape, and one particularly impressive high lava escarpment near Owen's Lake.  I can just picture Clint high on the edge of that escarpment; a lonely vagabond astride his horse, silhoetted against a harvest moon.  

Another beautiful area is the Grand Staircase Escalante National Monument in southern Utah.  Parts of Josey Wales were shot near there, and I think I recognised some of it in Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid, but there are endless possibilities and angles on the plateaux and canyons of that region.  I passed through during a build-up of storm clouds prior to heavy rain/snow fall and the effect of the sun highlighting the mesas and plateaux before such a huge, dark and menacing sky was truly dramatic.  I'd love to see Clint in a film that captured that feeling of impending mayhem, as the storm drew in, then finally burst upon the hapless, grizelled traveller, at the mercy of Nature.  


What do you think is the most romantic scene in an eastwood film and why?
:)Hi Misty.  An easy question for me! :D  This has to be from my fave, The Bridges Of Madison County.  Which particular scene is the most romantic?...Well, there are a few possibilities, but I have to go for the kitchen dancing scene, when Robert and Francesca first openly acknowledge their feelings for each other.  It's romantic because it takes things slowly; they don't just run off to bed, but gently hold each other, and dance to that wonderful song by Johnny Hartman, I see Your Face Before Me.  So much is said by Eastwood's and Streep's facial expressions, the way they look at each other, the way they take a few moments with their lips hovering close together before they actually kiss, the way she holds longingly to his shirt.  The viewer can feel the depth of care and passion between them.  I love the bit when they both suddenly break in to a smile.  Clint really looks in love...  *sigh* (http://2ni2.com/emoticon/amor/amor3.gif)

(http://www.glg.ed.ac.uk/home/s9810658/images/dress.jpg) (http://www.glg.ed.ac.uk/home/s9810658/images/stunning.jpg) (http://www.glg.ed.ac.uk/home/s9810658/images/phone.jpg)
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You look stunning...make 'em run round the block howling in agony kinda stunning.

Coming back with my tags...
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Post by: KC on June 12, 2003, 08:52:45 PM
KC: “ If I were to buy a book on Eastwood, besides yours of course, which one should I get?”
Depends on what you're looking for, DAmb. If you want a biography, for all its flaws, Schickel's is still the one to get, because there's so much in it that's directly from Clint.

If you want a book that's more about the movies than the man ... probably the one I've enjoyed the most is Fuensanta Plaza's Clint Eastwood/Malpaso. It's chock full of in-depth interviews with many of Eastwood's collaborators, so you really learn a lot about how the films were made.

I'll be back with tags a bit later on ...
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Post by: philo on June 12, 2003, 09:08:40 PM


And it is high quality, with great colour pictures .


Philo .
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Post by: Doug on June 12, 2003, 09:12:25 PM
New tags-

Doug: Whats your favorite spaghetti western and why?

Thanks for the tag -- it's an easy one for me: The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly is for me clearly my favorite.  Tuco's character is so much fun, and his interaction with Blondie is great.  The story has a great epic feel to it, but at its heart is a story of two bandits who can only play at having a conscience, and during the course of the movie come to like and respect each other, but are never able to really show it except through subtle gestures.  Neither can fully allow themselves to trust the other -- there's just a lot of heart to that movie, underneath the often comic machoism. They do become like brothers, but very wary brothers.  And it just has so many marvelous scenes.  

Anyway, my tags.

Mr. Pants: Back to you, I've got to ask what is the inspiration for your board name?

mgk: What's your favorite reoccuring theme in Clint's movies?  (I hope that's not a hard question!)
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Post by: Lilly on June 12, 2003, 09:44:09 PM
Here are the tags I owe.

Misty71: You must be one of our youngest members, so I'm curious to know when you first became a Clint fan, and why - was it a particular film that got you interested?

Ravenwind: Hi. :)  I see you like The Good, the Bad and the Ugly, and Outlaw Josey Wales, so you're obviously a fan of Clint's westerns.  I'd like to know which of his non-western films you particularly appreciate, and why.  

Clintfan:  :) I see you have an avatar from a favourite Clint scene of mine, from In The Line Of Fire.  
(http://home.swfla.rr.com/mattreigns/horrigan.gif)
Is this your favourite Clint movie?  If yes, why?  If no, which movie is your favourite, and why?

Frank Morris: Hei! :) You are clearly a big fan of Escape From Alcatraz.  What do you think makes it a great movie?  Any thoughts on whether Morris and the others made it to safety?
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Post by: KC on June 13, 2003, 03:26:04 AM
My tags:

Doug: I'm sure you know Clint's characters only die in two of his movies, The Beguiled and Honkytonk Man (and in Bridges, he's dead to begin with) ... though he's sort of a ghost in a couple of others.

Imagine a change in one other Eastwood film so that his character would die at the end. How would that work? Would it make the film more, or less, satisfying?

Holden Pike: We don't hear much from you lately ... ;) ... It's easy to be disappointed after a film has been hyped too much in advance, but from what you've heard so far, are you looking forward to Mystic River? How do you think it will match up against the other fall releases?
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Post by: Frank Morris on June 13, 2003, 05:30:48 AM

Frank Morris: Hei! :) You are clearly a big fan of Escape From Alcatraz.  What do you think makes it a great movie?  Any thoughts on whether Morris and the others made it to safety?

The thing that makes Escape From Alcatraz such a masterpiece is the genious work behind it. Don Siegel did extremly much pre-work and research. He wanted to make the film perfect and so he did. The details in the film is amazing. He had to study the rutines of the guards and the inmates to make it all fit together. How you see the escape itself in a sort of close wiew is incredible. And how they in real life managed to do this in one of the worlds best jails is beyond my belief. This is one of my alltime favourite movies ever!

Did they survive? I think so. Frank Morris was a very smart man with an high IQ. He had to have som kind of understanding of survival. I belive they all suvived. That is the thing that's exiting about this great flick. The mystery. Did they or did they not survive?
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Post by: Ravenwind on June 13, 2003, 06:32:39 AM
Well Lily,i think the best non westerns Clint has made are White Hunter,Black Heart,Dirty Harry(the first one) and Escape from Alcatraz.The first is probably because i love John Huston's work so i loved seeing a film that is based on him.Also Clint's acting was superb here.Same goes for the other two,Clint gave his uttermost to deliver a genuine performance.Dirty Harry is both thrilling because of the action and suspense and just because everything was perfectly made:the music,the camera,the acting was great(Andy Robinson's Scorpio remains one of the best portraits of serial killers in my opinion) and the direction was superb.And the last but not least Escape was Clint's probably most grim and grey movie and maybe thats why iam attracted to it so.
The scenes were high on tension,drama and very well written and directed and performed.
So thats it.I still have to see Breezy.;)
Now its my turn again.And i choose.....Conan!
Which of Clint's character do you associate most with and why?I hope it isnt too personal question.
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Post by: mgk on June 13, 2003, 06:39:01 AM
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mgk: What's your favorite reoccuring theme in Clint's movies?  (I hope that's not a hard question!)

It is a pretty hard question, at least for me, but I don't mind seeing what I can come up with.  In our recent film discussions, we have found recurring themes such as redemption, friendship and bonding, fatherhood (or lack thereof), man against man, greed, assertive and/or submissive women, survival, violence, sex and violence, and justice and/or revenge.  But, in order to answer Doug's question, I would like to cover the broader, repeated theme in Eastwood movies that deals with good vs. evil. Eastwood is a master at developing characters who are neither totally good nor are they completely bad...they are both.  

In Unforgiven, Eastwood's Munny has an ongoing debate with himself throughout the movie as to whether he, himself, is a good person or a bad person.  He used to "kill women and children" but he wouldn't do that anymore unless, of course, he was forced to do so.  He used to be a drunk but Claudia, rest her soul, cured him of that.  Davey, from that same movie, seems to be a really good young man, yet he was involved in the stabbing of Delilah since he was unable to stop his friend from cutting her up.  Little Bill is the good sheriff and tries to keep order in his town so that his constituents are protected from evil.  But, Little Bill can be excessively evil when he feels threatened....such as his brutal beating of English Bob and the whipping of Ned.  Then we see Little Bill building his dream house so that he can sit on the porch and watch the sunsets.  He vacillates between good and evil.

Luther Whitney in Absolute Power is a thief, a criminal.  Yet he hasn't hurt anyone in all the years that he has been stealing from people.  He loves his daughter and wants to protect her from other evil sources so he kills Secret Service Agent, Tim Collin, before Collin can kill his daughter.  Whitney spins a story to Walter Sullivan in such a way that it causes this otherwise philantripic man to kill the President of the United States for what happened to his young wife.  So, is Whitney a good person or an evil person?  Is Walter Sullivan a good person or is he also an evil one?

Robert Kincaid from The Bridges of Madison County is a kind and gentle and caring man, but yet he seduces another man's wife.  Francesca is a good woman but yet she commits adultry with a stranger that she fell in love with during a short four day love affair.  Butch Haynes from A Perfect World is a prison escapee who has killed or helped kill a government official, killed his partner in crime, scared Mack, Lottie, and Cleve half out of their wits when he snapped and almost lost total control of his actions.  But, Butch was a wonderful surrogate father to Phillip and Butch just had dreams of living a normal life and a longing to be a good father to someone.

As you can see, I could go on forever giving examples of people who are both good and evil in the stories Eastwood chooses to tell.  In my opinion, it's one of the best general, overall themes in Eastwood movies.

Speaking of good and evil characters in Eastwood movies.......

bcm:  Out of all of the Eastwood movies you have been able to watch in recent months, which basically "evil" non-Eastwood character do you think was the best?  In other words, which one made you feel like you would like to keep plenty of distance between you and him or her?

Matt:  Who do you think is the most innocent or the most "good" person, less tainted by life, in all of Eastwood's films to date?  And, no fair choosing LuAnn's small baby in Pink Cadillac  ::)....make it someone who has been around long enough to have had some of life's experiences but less swayed by the bad ones.
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Post by: AKA23 on June 13, 2003, 08:47:40 AM
AKA:  Is there an Eastwood movie that you really like that has a scene in it that you would like to change to make it even better?  If so, what movie/scene and how would you change it to make it better?

I'm thinking about this one, and don't really have a good answer for you. I don't think I have the technical expertise in the areas required in order to answer it with any great skill. The film that comes to mind is Absolute Power right now, and I'd be trying to work on the ending because as everyone knows I found it very unsatisying, but that doesn't even fit the parameters of the question. It isn't really a "scene" and it isn't a scene that I really like, so, I don't really know. And, I don't know what I'd do yet to make it better.  Somebody else have another question for me? It's taken me awhile to answer because I have been trying to come up with something. Sorry :( I'll keep thinking about it. Maybe another question?
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Post by: Doug on June 13, 2003, 09:28:39 AM
My tags:

Doug: I'm sure you know Clint's characters only die in two of his movies, The Beguiled and Honkytonk Man (and in Bridges, he's dead to begin with) ... though he's sort of a ghost in a couple of others.

Imagine a change in one other Eastwood film so that his character would die at the end. How would that work? Would it make the film more, or less, satisfying?

Hmm, I'm thinking...  It's hard to say, because I don't think it'd work with a "popular" movie, and might seem too calculated with some of the others ...  And also ruin the theme.  Like say WHBH, it's better him just going back to his director's chair and saying quietly, "Action."  With Tightrope, there's the issue of his daughters, which would bring up too many issues.  

The only movie I can think of is Heartbreak Ridge.  I think it'd still make the movie less satisfying, but I could still see it working to some degree.  Suppose he'd died in combat, maybe in saving another's life, it'd give his life one final bit of meaning.  And also it'd make all his earlier attempts to reconnect with his ex more poignant.  But it would also overbalance the movie, which is more comical and told in broad tones, and then him dying at the end would probably make the movie unsatisfying.  The audience I don't think would have accepted it -- but then had Clint felt it was the right way to end the story, he would have done it his way.

back in a moment for tags.
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Post by: Doug on June 13, 2003, 10:12:45 AM
tags:
Brendan: Is there a movie of Clint's that you think is saved by its ending?  In other words, it's not one of your favorite movies, but the ending made you like the movie better...

eustressor: Is there a Clint movie that you enjoy more each time you watch it?
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Post by: Brendan on June 13, 2003, 11:09:30 AM

Brendan: Is there a movie of Clint's that you think is saved by its ending?  In other words, it's not one of your favorite movies, but the ending made you like the movie better...

Thats good one, thanks Doug. Im going to have to think about this for awhile.

I kind of liked the ending of True Crime where we see Everett and Beachum just give each other a nod and smile and then thats it. I dont really think it saved the movie (even though I enjoyed it a bit), but I felt it made it a bit better.

I cant really think of a movie where the ending saved it or made it better. After reading AKA's post about changing a scene, I cant remember the ending to Absolute Power, so I cant comment on that.

Its a good question Doug, but I dont really think I can answer it properly. Sorry.

NEW TAGS:

Christopher: If Clint could have played a bad guy/villian from any movie in the 90's and 2000's what villian would it have to be?

bdc28: If Clint was approached to played Gil Grissom on CSI, and he accepted, do you think he would be as good as William Peterson?
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Post by: mgk on June 13, 2003, 11:16:59 AM
AKA:  You can consider the whole ending in Absolute Power to answer my question if that will help you.  Have you figured out a better ending that could get Whitney off the hook for this murder?  If so, you're welcome to tell us about that.  If not, and you would like another question, I'll see if I can come up with one.  Let me know.
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Post by: eustressor on June 13, 2003, 12:09:45 PM
Is there a Clint movie that you enjoy more each time you watch it?

Good question, Doug - it made me think for a minute (a good thing, s'long as it's only for a minute :)), and I believe I've stumbled across one of the great distinctions that makes Clint such a beloved filmmaker.

Yes. Actually, every Eastwood film I've ever seen has only gotten better with each successive viewing. This is particularly true of films he directs. And if they're amazing the first time you watch it, well... just look at this forum, chock full of devoted fans!

In other words, if the question were reversed - "Is there any Clint movie you've seen that doesn't get better every time you watch it?", my answer would be no. If I had to pick just one that brings me the most additional enjoyment each time I watch it, I'd have to say...

"Yeah. Well, I don't recollect." ;)

Big surprise, right? Thanks for a noodlescratcher.

Tags in a moment -
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Post by: eustressor on June 13, 2003, 12:25:15 PM
Sorry, here are my tags. Since I still have a few tags out, and want to see this game start really rolling, I'm tagging moderators this time 'round :

Matt - Let's talk music. Niehaus vs. Morricone. How are they similar, and how are they different? What are their respective strengths, and do you have a preference?

KC - English Bob and Little Bill. Who would you rather live next door to? Who would you rather have as a co-worker? If you could, use an example or two from the movie to explain your choices.
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Post by: Mr. Pants on June 13, 2003, 12:33:13 PM
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Mr. Pants: Back to you, I've got to ask what is the inspiration for your board name?

Well to start out I am a very happy guy. I just can't help smiling and laughing at jokes and what not. I sometimes jestingly pretend to sulk or pout when my girlfriend would make fun of me. So she gave me the nickname "Mr. Pissy Pants." Its a real funny name to have and it has become my screen name for almost everything on the internet. However a very popular firearms forum I post on did not take it too kindly so now I just skip the first word. Quite a few people find it offensive. So theres my name in a nut shell.  ;D

New tags:

eustressor: What reasons do you give to people who ask why Eastwood is your favorite actor (assuming he is of course)?

Lilly: Whats your favorite CE movie starring Sandra Locke?
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Post by: bcm on June 13, 2003, 12:35:38 PM
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Out of all of the Eastwood movies you have been able to watch in recent months, which basically "evil" non-Eastwood character do you think was the best?  In other words, which one made you feel like you would like to keep plenty of distance between you and him or her?

Hey, this was harder than the last one! There are different villains that I like, for example Evelyn. But she's ill, and she's focused on one person and his surrounding, so she doesn't scare me too much. Ramòn is very evil, coldheartedly killing a surrendering family. But he's much less bad than Scorpio is. He kills innocent people, tortures a girl in a cruel way. But he's a whimp, at some point, which makes him more vulnerable. So, my favorite villain must be Mitch Leary. He seems to be the most dangerous, because he's on a suicide mission, taking revenge on the CIA (not my words, thanks filmography!). So, he's got nothing to loose, which makes him unvulnerable, without fear.  Everytime someone could endanger his mission, he eliminates them. The worst scene, showing his unscrupulous determination, is when he kills that woman from the bank, and her roommate. I get chills when thinking of the noise of their breaking necks...
   He makes a game out of the whole thing, teasing, sneaking into Horrigans life, into Horrigans thoughts...And, to add even more, he is played and filmed in a very scary manner, with death-cold eyes, that make you freeze when they look at you. No, I definitely would NOT like to meet him.

eustressor I see you've been busy already, so you won't mind another tag  ;). If, by magic, you could become any actor or actress, which character would you like to have played in Unforgiven?

raimius after years of collecting paperbacks, which would you consider as your favorite memorabile, and why? (it doesn't have to be a paperback, just any Eastwood related item)
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Post by: misty71 on June 13, 2003, 12:45:22 PM
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Misty71: You must be one of our youngest members, so I'm curious to know when you first became a Clint fan, and why - was it a particular film that got you interested?


Lilly, you have no idea how much I like to tell that little story! ;DIt all started on may 31st, 2001, clints birthday. There was an eastwood marathon on TBS and I was surfing trought the channels, when I came across a movie named "dirty harry" I thought "hey that looks good" so I watched it. Halfway through the film I was like hypnotized, it was just SOOO good.
 Now Ive always been a music fan, so I didnt know much about movies. I called up my mom and said "hey, who's that Clint eastwood guy?" She said "oh he made a lot of movies. Hes a great actor" So I came home, and there was "in the line of fire" I watched it and that was it; I searched through the internet, and decided I wanted ALL the Clint movies. (Im like that, like when I find a band I like, I want EVERYTHING about them, you could say I work on love at first sight ;))
 So anyways, the next day, I started my collection (The rookie was my 1st tape, I bought it a garage sale for 1$, Thank god it didnt turn me off completely of beeing a clint fan) And a couple weeks later, I had like 10 movies.
Now, I have only a few missing and Im very happy I watched Dirty Harry that night!

 Well hope everyone enjoyed.....Now for the tags

AKA23; What ending of a CE movie surprised you the most and why?

DOUG: Whats your least favorite Clint movie and why?

 
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Post by: AKA23 on June 13, 2003, 01:35:41 PM
AKA23; What ending of a CE movie surprised you the most and why?

That's an interesting question, but honestly, I'd have to say that I've never really been all that surprised at an ending for a Clint Eastwood film. He doesn't seem to work on shock value. The endings of the films that he's been in don't really work by trying to shock the viewer or where there's a moment where something happens in the story, and the viewer is totally tacked aback, not seeing that coming. He hasn't really made those types of films. So, honestly, I've never really been all that surprised as to the way a Clint film ended, at least not to my knowledge. I don't remember recalling seeing something, and being totally surprised at what had just happened. If I REALLY had to narrow something down, I might say The Beguiled because Clint kind of unexpectedly died at the end, but even that was a kind of natural evolution from the story. I hope that I've answered your question.

For a tongue in cheek answer to the question, I'd have to say Blood Work . I saw who the killer was, and how it all played out, and I kept thinking to myself, damn, I can't believe Clint could make a film this pedestrian, this unoriginal, this cliched, this overdone and overplayed. I couldn't believe that the killer could be who the killer actually was, and that this unoriginal plot device was being used by Clint Eastwood of all people. THAT was surprising.  
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Post by: Conan on June 13, 2003, 01:42:19 PM
...I can't believe Clint could make a film this pedestrian, this unoriginal, this cliched, this overdone and overplayed...

  I agree 100 percent...It was very average for an Eastwood movie.
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Post by: AKA23 on June 13, 2003, 01:43:12 PM
AKA:  You can consider the whole ending in Absolute Power to answer my question if that will help you.  Have you figured out a better ending that could get Whitney off the hook for this murder?  If so, you're welcome to tell us about that.  If not, and you would like another question, I'll see if I can come up with one.  Let me know.

Well, I think I have a different answer to the question now. I could come up with one for Absolute Power , but we'd have to change too much around, that would be too involved, I don't know if I could do it. I think that would be the best answer for me though. The ending really puts a damper on my enjoyment of the film, even though I do like the film.

I'll have to go with True Crime , but this probably won't be a popular answer. I liked True Crime but again, the ending of the film didn't do too much for me. I think I would have liked it better if Everett was unable to redeem himself and stop the execution of Frank Beachum (sp) Sure, it wouldn't be as cheery, and I don't really like depressing movies, but for that film, that's the reality. I think it would have been a better film had everyone involved in the production had the courage to show things the way they really were. The whole True Crime ending, that race against the clock, the car chase, everything else, just seemed really contrived and a bit pedestrian. The REAL reality is that Everett wouldn't have been able to save Beachum. An innocent person dies because the system failed. That's the real reality. That's what should have been reflected in Clint's film, and it wasn't. That kind of an ending would have made it so much more powerful, and so much more realistic than as it stands now.
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Post by: Doug on June 13, 2003, 01:48:44 PM
DOUG: Whats your least favorite Clint movie and why?
 

Thanks for the tag Misty.  It's a harder question than it seems.  I can't honestly say Paint Your Wagon, because I've never seen more than bits of it at a time.  The Rookie I haven't seen in too long, but I didn't gag when I watched it way back when.  I don't think City Heat is that bad, nor Pink Cadillac, though it's been years since I've seen it.  And mostly I was expecting the worse already, and it definitely wasn't the worse.

So I'd have to say Joe Kidd, because I watched it several times growing up and it's so completely unmemorable and bland.  I don't hate it, I just never enjoyed watching it.  Maybe I will a little more when I can get around to seeing it again some day but I doubt it'll ever do much for me.  

I only owe one tag:

MC: Do you think Clint's directing has changed in any way over the last thirty years or do you think it's basically stayed the same, stylistically.  (Please don't take this as a hard question ... a simple answer will do fine.   ;))
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Post by: eustressor on June 13, 2003, 02:12:54 PM
What reasons do you give to people who ask why Eastwood is your favorite actor (assuming he is of course)?

It's what he doesn't say that speaks the loudest... The silences, the moments in-between, the pause before speaking, being regarded by those far-away eyes.

His carefully measured restraint. Nothing he does on camera appears accidental or trivial.

Conan - Which supporting character (basically, not Clint) from an Eastwood film do you find to be the most charming? Is it their words, actions, or both?
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Post by: AKA23 on June 13, 2003, 03:03:42 PM
I think I owe six tags from three questions because the questions were all on different days. Here I go!

KC : Is there any Eastwood film that you've seen that you see people liking, and you wish that you could like it more too, but you don't. Some people are heaping praise on it, but for you, it's just okay, nothing really special, and you wish that you could see in it what other people are seeing? It can either be a film that you'd like to enjoy just for entertainment value, or one that you see as a good achievement artistically, but isn't as enjoyable as you'd like for it to be. And, don't automatically just say no. Try to think about it.

Matt : You're a friend of Clint, or his agent or something, and he comes to you for some advice. He asks you about his next film, he's not sure what he should do. He wants to know what kind of movie his fans want from him, and what kind of film he should do next. Of course, he wants to keep telling intelligent stories for an adult audience, what would you say? What would you like to see for Clint's next? Maybe give a  brief plot outline, or, if that's too difficult, the genre of the film.
 
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Post by: Matt on June 13, 2003, 03:19:58 PM
The thing that makes Escape From Alcatraz such a masterpiece is the genious work behind it. Don Siegel did extremly much pre-work and research. He wanted to make the film perfect and so he did. The details in the film is amazing. He had to study the rutines of the guards and the inmates to make it all fit together. How you see the escape itself in a sort of close wiew is incredible. And how they in real life managed to do this in one of the worlds best jails is beyond my belief. This is one of my alltime favourite movies ever!

Did they survive? I think so. Frank Morris was a very smart man with an high IQ. He had to have som kind of understanding of survival. I belive they all suvived. That is the thing that's exiting about this great flick. The mystery. Did they or did they not survive?

Hey Frank Morris, don't forget to tag two more members and keep the game movin'.  :D
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Post by: Conan on June 13, 2003, 05:14:09 PM
Ravenwind: Which of Clint's character do you associate most with and why?  I hope it isnt too personal question.

I guess it depends how I'm feeling at the time...But right now, Dirty Harry.  Why?  Months ago I had both of my cars busted into.  I questioned many people in my apartment complex and determined (based on many facts, including that they used the same MO) that there was a ring of thieves stealing car stereos at my apt. complex and others nearby.  I even staked out one of my cars a few times (that I made ripe for the picking) around the time that they usually make their move.  The pansy, meter maids that pose as police around here finally figured it out a few weeks ago, as the car break-in ring was on the news.  So now that there is media coverage, the fuzz are finally getting off their butt.   One guy near me even found a pager in his broken-into car that one of the thieves had dropped, the moron police couldn't track the guy down using it.  This guy ended up doing it on his own.  I'm getting side-tracked...The point is...After having this happen to me on three occasions in my life (four cars total), I have ZERO tolerance for thieves and am not adverse to taking the law into my own hands Dirty Harry style (though not necessarily with a .44), as it apparently is the only way anything will ever get done.  If they try it again on my main car, I will be silently paged in my apartment by the alarm.  And then I will do what the inept, Lifetime Network watching, non-Dirty Harry cops around here can't.  Hmmm...Maybe I identify more with the vigilantes in "Magnum Force" than Harry.  Sorry for the ramble, man I needed that.

Eustressor: Which supporting character (basically, not Clint) from an Eastwood film do you find to be the most charming?  Is it their words, actions, or both?

Chief Dan George from "The Outlaw Josey Wales".  He comes across as charming in both words and actions.  Not leading man charming, but in a supporting character type of way.

My tags are coming up later...
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Post by: eustressor on June 13, 2003, 05:20:07 PM
(Mitch  Leary) makes a game out of the whole thing, teasing, sneaking into Horrigans life, into Horrigans thoughts...And, to add even more, he is played and filmed in a very scary manner, with death-cold eyes, that make you freeze when they look at you. No, I definitely would NOT like to meet him.

Nice description, bcm. I love John Malkovitch's ice-cold portrayal of Mitch Leary.

eustressor I see you've been busy already, so you won't mind another tag  ;). If, by magic, you could become any actor or actress, which character would you like to have played in Unforgiven?

(http://www.mystica.cc/images/uploads/sbillhim.jpg)

 ;D ;D ;D

Ravenwind - Say you're a parent. Say you've decided your child is now old enough to enjoy movies, and you've decided that it's high time he or she be introduced to westerns. Not just any westerns, but a bonafide Clint western. Which film would you choose, and how old would the child need to be?
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Post by: Matt on June 13, 2003, 05:29:46 PM

Matt:  Who do you think is the most innocent or the most "good" person, less tainted by life, in all of Eastwood's films to date?  And, no fair choosing LuAnn's small baby in Pink Cadillac  ::)....make it someone who has been around long enough to have had some of life's experiences but less swayed by the bad ones.

I've always thought that Delilah Fitzgerald in Unforgiven is the most angelic character in an Eastwood film.  If eyebrows are raising because she's a prostitute, well... I can see why that would cause a problem for some.  But, I look beyond that and see a woman who meets the description that mgk asked me for...
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the most innocent or the most "good" person, less tainted by life.


(Since I have a choice between "most innocent" and "most good"... I'll pick "most good" in this case.)

Although Deliliah is the one who was savagely attacked and disfigured, unlike Strawberry Alice and the other whores she doesn't seek vindication for the brutal act.  She understood that the other women needed THEIR vengence for the assault on her, so she stood by silently as they hired the killers, although she never showed any need or desire for her own revenge.  Unlike the others, she seemed truly touched by Davey's offer of the best horse he had, offering more than what he was fined because he was sorry to have been involved in her attack.  Delilah's expression in that scene tells me that she had forgiven him, whereas the others couldn't.  And when the whores yelled at and chased Davey and Quick Mike away with stones, Delilah stood by showing no anger, only regret over what had happened and sadness over what was to come.

Athough we can imagine that Delilah had lived a painful and heartbreaking life, rather than dwell on her misfortunes, she was still a giver.  She still had the love and compassion within her to nurse Munny back to health when he was close to death from fever.  

For all these reasons, and because Delilah never lost her faith in the goodness of people, I am naming her....

(http://home.swfla.rr.com/mattreigns/delilahangel.jpg)
THE GOODEST CHARACTER IN THE LAND OF EASTWOOD :D

(Stand by for tags)
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Post by: Conan on June 13, 2003, 05:51:22 PM
  Ok, I owe eight tags.  Game on:


Brendan: You can meet one actor that has appeared in an Eastwood movie, but not Clint himself.  Who do you choose to meet?


Christopher: You are William Munny.  Do you avenge the prostitute who got her face scarred for life or stay at home and take up knitting?


D' Ambrosia: Who is the most cliche and cheesiest of all of Clint's characters?


Holden Pike: In the 1970s could Sam Peckinpah and Eastwood have come together to make a really good western?  Or could Peckinpah not get the most out of Eastwood?


Ravenwind: Who is the most annoying character in all of Eastwood's movies?


Matt: You are Robert Kincaid.  Do you commit adultery with a married Francesca or find one of the MANY single (non-married) women on the planet?


KC: You are offered 150 million dollars to edit a book on Eastwood's life.  Problem is, many of the details are flawed and it is mostly negative - and you can't edit out either.  Do you sell out or cash out?


Misty: If you could ask Clint one question, what would it be and why?
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Post by: Matt on June 13, 2003, 06:17:22 PM
 
Matt: You are Robert Kincaid.  Do you commit adultery with a married Francesca or find one of the MANY single (non-married) women on the planet?

I've already gone on the record as saying that I think Robert and Francesca would have been better off had they never met.  Especially in Robert's case.  But since they do...  

As Robert Kincaid, I've already found MANY single (non-married) women on the planet to sleep with.  But in all my years I never found a soul mate, someone who understood me and who I wanted to really know and understand too.  And I've lived some 60 years without finding that, not thinking there was anyone like that for me... thinking I was different from the others.  Then I find her... and I know, finally, what it's like to love and be loved.  And she's already married.  

I'd have dinner with her, I'd talk with her and spend every minute with her that I could... but I probably wouldn't sleep with her.

(I think I should get 20 tags for that one.)
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Post by: Matt on June 13, 2003, 06:24:11 PM

Matt : You're a friend of Clint, or his agent or something, and he comes to you for some advice. He asks you about his next film, he's not sure what he should do. He wants to know what kind of movie his fans want from him, and what kind of film he should do next. Of course, he wants to keep telling intelligent stories for an adult audience, what would you say? What would you like to see for Clint's next? Maybe give a  brief plot outline, or, if that's too difficult, the genre of the film.

I know I've answered this same question in the old tag game, and I'm pretty sure it was you who tagged me with it, AKA.  What I'd suggest is an intelligent psychological thriller, with an air-tight script and all the little bugs and plot holes worked out.  And I'd tell Clint that I think it would be a good move for him to work alongside other big name actors and actresses again.

Is that good enough for tags, AKA?
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Post by: AKA23 on June 13, 2003, 07:08:44 PM
What do you mean is it good enough for tags? I didn't get that. Now that you mention it, I think you DID answer that question, or some variation of it, in the old tag game. Sorry Matt. I didn't mean to re-use a question. Your answer sounds familiar though. :(
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Post by: misty71 on June 13, 2003, 07:08:48 PM
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Misty: If you could ask Clint one question, what would it be and why?

And I thought Id be just checking the board and going to bed,now I got the hardest question Ive been asked so far ;)
 Ok Ill give this a shot; Whats hard about it is what question hasent he been asked already?I think I would ask him how he figured his life would be if he hasnet become a movie star.Would he play jazz? would he just work 9-5 everyday and be one of the crowd? Id ask him how he pictured his life without the acting.
 Im sorry if this is a dissapointing answer, but there are so many things I'd ask him, it's hard to narrow it down to one question.
 Hey, I got a good one, I could just ask "Hey there clint, what question would you like to be asked?"  ;)

Ok Tagging....

MATT:you mentioned big name actors and actresses in your reply to AKA's tag. Who do you think would have been better in the role of the murderer in "Bloodwork"
than Jeff Daniels?(I dont know, but once youve seen dumb and dumber, jeff doesnt make such a convincing killer)and why?

EUSTRESSOR:What location (city, country, whatever)of a clint movie do you find the most beautiful and why?
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Post by: Lilly on June 13, 2003, 07:35:45 PM
Lilly, you have no idea how much I like to tell that little story! ;DIt all started on may 31st, 2001, clints birthday. There was an eastwood marathon on TBS and I was surfing trought the channels, when I came across a movie named "dirty harry" I thought "hey that looks good" so I watched it. Halfway through the film I was like hypnotized, it was just SOOO good.
 Now Ive always been a music fan, so I didnt know much about movies. I called up my mom and said "hey, who's that Clint eastwood guy?" She said "oh he made a lot of movies. Hes a great actor" So I came home, and there was "in the line of fire" I watched it and that was it; I searched through the internet, and decided I wanted ALL the Clint movies. (Im like that, like when I find a band I like, I want EVERYTHING about them, you could say I work on love at first sight ;))
 So anyways, the next day, I started my collection (The rookie was my 1st tape, I bought it a garage sale for 1$, Thank god it didnt turn me off completely of beeing a clint fan) And a couple weeks later, I had like 10 movies.
Now, I have only a few missing and Im very happy I watched Dirty Harry that night!

 :) Thanks for sharing, Misty.  I enjoyed your story.  I also "discovered" Clint by accident on the TV (In The Line Of Fire). 8)
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Post by: eustressor on June 13, 2003, 08:00:51 PM
EUSTRESSOR:What location (city, country, whatever)of a clint movie do you find the most beautiful and why?

Great question, Misty - thanks :)

(http://www.mystica.cc/images/uploads/sGBU.jpg)

I have always been transfixed by the circular cemetery that provides the eerie backdrop for the climax of The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly. The swelling music, Tuco's amazing run among the swirling graves, the final standoff in the center... there's just something, some quality simultaneously beautiful and chilling, that really grabs me, every time...

Christopher - You step into an elevator in a high-rise hotel and realize that you are sharing it with one other person...Clint. He's in the middle of a heated cell-phone conversation. A few floors up, he suddenly exclaims, "Dammit, I'm just too old to go galavanting around playing politician!" and ends the call. Then he leans forward and stops the elevator, turns to you looking every bit like Harry Callahan, and says, "What do you think? Should I run for Governor of California?"
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Post by: Matt on June 13, 2003, 08:08:20 PM

Matt - Let's talk music. Niehaus vs. Morricone. How are they similar, and how are they different? What are their respective strengths, and do you have a preference?


Whoo, like comparing apples and oranges!  

Well, they're similar in that they're both composers who have worked on films that star Clint Eastwood. ;)

What I see as Niehaus's biggest strength is that his scores are unobtrusive and never detract the viewer from the action of the films and the scores seem to complement the tone of the films.  Another strength is that Niehaus works well with Eastwood and creates beautiful orchestration for his compositions.  These compositions are usually the highlight of the score, such as "Kate's Theme" in Absolute Power, "Doe Eyes" in The Bridges of Madison County, "Espacio" from Space Cowboys, "Big Fran's Baby[/i] from A Perfect World, "Amanda's Theme" from Tightrope and "Claudia's Theme" from Unforgiven.

Morricone's worked on some 400 or so films, but I've only heard his compositions for the five Eastwood films he's worked on and for Leone's Once Upon A Time in the West).  It seems a little unbalanced and unfair for me to attempt to discuss his music and strengths without being more exposed to his work.  Still, these scores, especially the four Leone scores mentioned above, are all the greatest scores I've ever heard, with The Good, The Bad and The Ugly standing tallest as the greatest film score of all time (in my opinion).  So, I can definitely say I have a preference, and that is very much toward Morricone.

Some of Morricone's strengths: able to produce an amazing, innovative score on a shoestring budget using voice, harmonica, trumpets and electric guitar rather than a full orchestra; majestic themes that you remember long after the film is over; music that fits the film like a glove, but rather than being in the background, the music is in the foreground and adds tremendously to the emotional impact of the film, and (IMO) is never distracting.

I have a few original scores from the Niehaus films, and I really don't enjoy listening to them, with the exception of the Eastwood compositions.  In fact, I can point to only one song that Niehaus composed on his own that I find enjoyable, and that is "Christy's Dance" from Absolute Power.  It's not great, but it's also not the usual "background" music that he composes.  Whereas, I almost always have the GBU soundtrack in the platter, or real close.  It's also great to drive with....  "GO! GO! GO, MANCO!!!"  :D
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Post by: Matt on June 13, 2003, 08:24:52 PM
What do you mean is it good enough for tags? I didn't get that. Now that you mention it, I think you DID answer that question, or some variation of it, in the old tag game. Sorry Matt. I didn't mean to re-use a question. Your answer sounds familiar though. :(

That's okay.  I'll tag then. :)
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Post by: Matt on June 13, 2003, 08:39:36 PM

MATT:you mentioned big name actors and actresses in your reply to AKA's tag. Who do you think would have been better in the role of the murderer in "Bloodwork"
than Jeff Daniels?(I dont know, but once youve seen dumb and dumber, jeff doesnt make such a convincing killer)and why?

That's a tough one for me... maybe if I had a list of actors to choose from, I'd be able to pick someone.  I've been thinking and thinking, and going crazy here.  I'm gonna cop out and give a pretty unoriginal answer here and say De Niro.  He'd definitely be able to pull it off without it being laughable, and I'd love to see Clint and Robert work together.  

Now I get to tag.  I'll be back with a bunch. :)
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Post by: Christopher on June 13, 2003, 08:49:12 PM
From Brendan:
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Christopher: If Clint could have played a bad guy/villian from any movie in the 90's and 2000's what villian would it have to be?
Shoot! Sorry, I can't think of anything. Of all the movies I've seen from the 90s to the present, I can't see Eastwood as a villain in any of them. (Since I'm kind of bailing out on your question, I won't tag anyone for this)

From Conan:
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Christopher: You are William Munny.  Do you avenge the prostitute who got her face scarred for life or stay at home and take up knitting?
As much as I, Will Munny, killer of women and children, love to knit, I'd probably have to go out hunting for the ones who cut up that hooker. ;D

From eustressor:
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Christopher - You step into an elevator in a high-rise hotel and realize that you are sharing it with one other person...Clint. He's in the middle of a heated cell-phone conversation. A few floors up, he suddenly exclaims, "Dammit, I'm just too old to go galavanting around playing politician!" and ends the call. Then he leans forward and stops the elevator, turns to you looking every bit like Harry Callahan, and says, "What do you think? Should I run for Governor of California?"

Assuming I could speak and think clearly while getting the Callahan look, I'd say "No!" And I'd probably try to tell him that he'd be taking a huge step down in his career. He's too good of a filmmaker for such things.

Be back with tags.
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Post by: Matt on June 13, 2003, 09:01:48 PM
TAGGING.......

PHILO:  I don't recall you ever discussing how you discovered Eastwood films.  Which film of his was the first that you remember seeing?  Was it the one that made you a fan?  How old were you at the time?

BRENDAN:  Out of all of the "leading lady" roles in Eastwood films... which character do you find to be the least likeable, or who you've wondered how Eastwood's character could be interested in her?

STRANGER:  I'm gonna ask you the same question I just asked Philo.  Hope you have the time to jump in here and answer! :)

GANT:  What is your favorite Eastwood film score or soundtrack?

VIK:  Name a product that you can imagine Eastwood endorsing.

PALM:  Where have you been?  Well let's see if we can get you back here on the board again!  I know that you love Robert and Francesca's relationship probably the best out of all of Eastwood's onscreen romances.  What would be your second choice?
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Post by: Christopher on June 13, 2003, 09:09:32 PM
Brendan: Since I didn't answer your question to me, I'll ask you the same one. If Clint could have played a bad guy/villian from any movie in the 90's and 2000's what villian would it have to be?

Doug: Assuming you haven't already answered a question like this: how did you get interested in Eastwood and his films?

MGK: If you knew someone who had never seen an Eastwood movie before, which one would you recommend for them?
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Post by: Lilly on June 13, 2003, 09:29:25 PM
Whats your favorite CE movie starring Sandra Locke?
;D Nice one Mr. Pants!  I'm guessing you saw my wee smiley about Any Which Way You Can in the scavenger hunt game. ;)

I haven't seen Sudden Impact or Bronco Billy, but of the other films with Sondra Locke my favourite by a mile is The Outlaw Josey Wales.  I'm not a great fan of Locke as an actress, and didn't think her performance in Josey was anything special, but the film as a whole is very good, and among Clint's best.  

Edit add: Just for the record, I do like the Clyde movies, especially Any Which Way... which is always good for a laugh and to lift one's spirits. :)

Be back with tags...
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Post by: mgk on June 13, 2003, 10:09:24 PM
MGK: If you knew someone who had never seen an Eastwood movie before, which one would you recommend for them?
I guess that would depend on a lot of factors...age, sex, level of maturity, etc.  But, since more people like cop or detective movies than like westerns, I think I would choose Dirty Harry.  The pace is good, the tension is there, it has an excellent villain, and it showcases Eastwood's "less is more" style in films.  If they came back and asked for "seconds," I think I would show them what a good western is supposed to look like and I would give them The Outlaw Josey Wales to view.  I'm not saying that "Josey Wales" is the best western Eastwood has made but it's a really good one for a newcomer.  If they still wanted more... ;D...I would introduce them to the spaghetti westerns.  Then, if I had them hooked, I would start showing them some of his smaller films such as Bronco Billy and A Perfect World.  If they got that far, then my job would probably be done.

zoso:  I remember you saying not too long ago that you bought quite a few Eastwood DVDs.  Have you had time to watch some of them?  If so, which one that you most recently purchased did you like the best?  If not, then which Eastwood film is your favorite and why?

Xichado:  What is your favorite scene in all of Eastwood's impressive list of films he has starred in, starred and directed, or even directed and not starred in?
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Post by: Doug on June 13, 2003, 10:59:37 PM
Doug: Assuming you haven't already answered a question like this: how did you get interested in Eastwood and his films?


Here, I thought I'd be scarse from the board while in Ohio, but I'm finding my brother's cable connection to be most appealing... :D  Yeah, I've answered this question before, but it's okay.


Essentially I grew up with his movies.  My mom was a huge fan.  She'd watched Rawhide, but it was Where Eagles Dare and then Dirty Harry that turned her completely and utterly into a fan ... as I was born in 1970, I grew up with his movies on the TV all the time.  And I watched them all everytime they were on TV.  Kids now grow up watching Disney movies over and over.  There was no vcr's or cable for me at that age so I grew up with his movies on TV, and it was a passion that I shared with my mother.  Through my life I have never tired of Clint, and I was able to appreciate more about his movies as I grew older.   When I got my first computer in 1997, one of the first things I did was look up Clint Eastwood on the internet and I found this site.  When I finally discovered the web board and became active, I began to renew myself with his movies, and see them with different eyes....i.e. as an older person with more insight and more knowledge about filmmaking and storytelling, and to experience his movies with people who shared my passion for Clint Eastwood.  So it's been great to have that experience, to find a way really to reconnect with my younger self.  (If that makes any sense.)  I never ceased being a huge fan, (as I was blown away away by Unforgiven in the theatre and I always appreciated the artistry of White Hunter, Black Heart, for example) but over the last few years I've been able to discover new depths to his movies and appreaciate them in a way I was never able to before.  I've always liked The Beguiled for instance, even though my mome always disliked the movie -- I'm the type of person to like a movie like that -- and now at age 33 I can watch it and appreciate all that I liked about it at the earliest age I saw it and also all that I see in the movie now and all that everyone else here sees in the movie as has been brought up in the film discussions.  

The short answer, though, is that I grew up with his movies, and for as long as I can remember thinking about such things, I've always thought there was much more to his films than he was being given credit for.  

Zoso: What's your favorite Clint quote in any of his movies?  
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Post by: Frank Morris on June 14, 2003, 12:22:01 AM
My tags

ropearoundhisneck: Eastwood has many famous quotes. What quote did you like best and why?

Orville : what is it about Clint Eastwood that makes him so special? What seperates him from all other actors?
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Post by: KC on June 14, 2003, 01:16:12 AM
Sorry, here are my tags. Since I still have a few tags out, and want to see this game start really rolling, I'm tagging moderators this time 'round :
KC - English Bob and Little Bill. Who would you rather live next door to? Who would you rather have as a co-worker? If you could, use an example or two from the movie to explain your choices.
Hmmm ... since I live in New York, it really wouldn't matter which one I live next door to ... I never see my neighbors anyway. I think I'd pick English Bob. He'd play a better sort of music (and not too loud or too late at night), and he'd be more polite if he met me in the elevator once in a while.

As for a co-worker ... I want Little Bill. And I want him to have the same boss I have. Maybe that's enough said ... I'd really rather not give the example from the movie that I'm thinking of!...   :o  ;)

Great question, eustressor!


KC : Is there any Eastwood film that you've seen that you see people liking, and you wish that you could like it more too, but you don't. Some people are heaping praise on it, but for you, it's just okay, nothing really special, and you wish that you could see in it what other people are seeing? It can either be a film that you'd like to enjoy just for entertainment value, or one that you see as a good achievement artistically, but isn't as enjoyable as you'd like for it to be. And, don't automatically just say no. Try to think about it.
Sure AKA ... that's easy. Every Which Way but Loose! And Any Which Way You Can ...  ;)

KC: You are offered 150 million dollars to edit a book on Eastwood's life.  Problem is, many of the details are flawed and it is mostly negative - and you can't edit out either.  Do you sell out or cash out?
That's easy ... of course I'd sell out, for 150 million smackeroos! I'd buy the publishing house, pulp the smear job,  and publish my own, impeccable and definitive, monograph on the topic.

I'll have to come up with tags sometime tomorrow ... it may be late. I have a busy day coming up!
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Post by: Ravenwind on June 14, 2003, 02:36:45 AM
First to answer Eustressor's question.I think the first film i'd let my child see is GBU(Good,bad and the ugly).
He/she would have to be at least 12.Clint's crispy face would certainly frighten a smaller child. ;D It is a classic and so if i wanted to educate my kid i'd have him watch GBU.Of course,it does contain some unpleasant,violent scenes but again wouldnt he/she get to see even worse on tv sooner or later?

Matt:Which of Clint's pictures have given you the most enlightening experience?And why?
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Post by: Ravenwind on June 14, 2003, 02:42:38 AM
And Conan,i think the most annoying character to me is Clive Mantle's in "White hunter,black heart".You know,that big english guy which has a boxing match with Clint's character.He was just despicable.And that he beat Clint up made him more annoying. >:(
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Post by: Matt on June 14, 2003, 05:29:28 AM

Matt:Which of Clint's pictures have given you the most enlightening experience?And why?

As much enjoyment I get out of Eastwood films, I wouldn't say that they've been enlightening to me, unless I say that they've been enlightening in that I've never known a movie could be so damn good!  ;D

Bird, however, since it tells the story of a man who I knew very little about prior to watching the film, is probably the one exception.  I learned a lot about Parker's life and music through this film, and since I'm not a fan of jazz music, I doubt I would have ever been exposed to his music if not for this film.
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Post by: Matt on June 14, 2003, 06:11:08 AM
Tagging....

ALINE:  What is your favorite cast from an Eastwood film, and why?

bdc28:  I miss reading your posts, not just all the fun ones that we all enjoy so much, but your great insightful thoughts on Eastwood's films too.  I was hoping to see you joining in when we started the Fistful of Dollars film discussion, since that's one of your favorites.  I know that time and computer access may be a problem for you, but if there was one Eastwood film that you'd want to discuss so badly that we might see you participating in the film discussions, which one would it be?  You know if we could get you to come around here more often, it would be the next film on the schedule!  :)
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Post by: Brendan on June 14, 2003, 06:37:03 AM
Brendan: You can meet one actor that has appeared in an Eastwood movie, but not Clint himself.  Who do you choose to meet?

Probably either Andy Robinson, John Malkovich or Gene Hackman. Its hard to choose between those three. There would be so much to talk about with all three of them.

BRENDAN:  Out of all of the "leading lady" roles in Eastwood films... which character do you find to be the least likeable, or who you've wondered how Eastwood's character could be interested in her?

Francessca from Bridges. Damn women lieing to him about the flowers. The guy was trying to be nice and look what he got. No, I'm kidding.

Probably either Sandra Lockes character from Sudden Impact or her character from (Im probably going to get heat from this) The Gauntlet.

Brendan: Since I didn't answer your question to me, I'll ask you the same one. If Clint could have played a bad guy/villian from any movie in the 90's and 2000's what villian would it have to be?

It would have been neat to see Clint in Max Von Sydow's role in Minority Report. Also, Speilberg directed it, so it would have been neat to see them work together. Or maybe he could have played Harvey Kietel's character in Copland.


NEW TAGS:

misty71: What actor/actress do you most want to see Clint work with?

Lilly: If Clint only has ONE more acting movie left in him, what do you want the type of film to be?

eustressor: Do you think could have played Charlton Heston's role of George Taylor in the original Planet of the Apes better or just as good?

Matt: What Academy Awards do you think Clint should have been nominated for(what catagoery)? And for what movies?

zoso: If you could have dinner with Clint, what would you talk to him about?
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Post by: Matt on June 14, 2003, 07:31:13 AM

Matt: What Academy Awards do you think Clint should have been nominated for(what catagoery)? And for what movies?


I'll keep the list short and only name three films as director and three films as actor that I believe he should have been nominated for:

As director:  A Perfect World, The Outlaw Josey Wales, and The Bridges of Madison County.

As actor:  The Bridges of Madison County, White Hunter, Black Heart and Tightrope.
 
I'm not including Unforgiven since he actually WAS nominated for both actor and director of that film.  I would definitely say that he should have won both.

One tag coming up....
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Post by: Conan on June 14, 2003, 07:55:55 AM
That's easy ... of course I'd sell out, for 150 million smackeroos! I'd buy the publishing house, pulp the smear job,  and publish my own, impeccable and definitive, monograph on the topic.

  Haha, I wasn't expecting that.  Good answer.  ;D
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Post by: Matt on June 14, 2003, 07:58:34 AM
Tagging.....

MGK:  You asked me last night who I felt was the "most good" Eastwood character... now I'd like to ask you who is the "most bad".  Name the character who is the meanest, baddest, dirtiest, least admirable, most sinister and hateful character in the land of Eastwood.

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Post by: Matt on June 14, 2003, 08:22:33 AM
(In answer to my question:  Out of all of the "leading lady" roles in Eastwood films... which character do you find to be the least likeable, or who you've wondered how Eastwood's character could be interested in her?)


Probably either Sandra Lockes character from Sudden Impact or her character from (Im probably going to get heat from this) The Gauntlet.

Oh man, gotta agree with you on Locke's Jennifer Spencer (Sudden Impact).  Perfect answer.  WHAT WAS HARRY THINKING?!?!?!

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Post by: misty71 on June 14, 2003, 08:27:59 AM
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misty71: What actor/actress do you most want to see Clint work with?

You guys are going to think Im weird, but Jack Nicholson. Because he's very expressive and convincing, I think he could play a marvelous criminal or villain in an eastwood film.I think both his and clint's energy on screen could make a great thriller.

Tagging.....

PHILO: i know youre a fan of "every wich way but loose? How do you think the movie would have been different without Clyde? Same storyline and all, but without the orang-outang? Do you think the movie would have had such a big commercial success and why?

CHRISTOPHER: movie-robbers invade your house and want to take all your clint movies, but they say you can keep 4. Which would they be and why?

 
 
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Post by: Matt on June 14, 2003, 08:31:03 AM


CHRISTOPHER: movie-robbers invade your house and want to take all your clint movies, but they say you can keep 4. Which would they be and why?

(http://home.swfla.rr.com/mattreigns/lol.gif)  I got a mental image of this... too funny.  These would be the most considerate "movie-robbers" ever!  ;D
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Post by: misty71 on June 14, 2003, 08:38:50 AM
 ;D
Well I wanted to write the "you go on a desert island..." thing but I wanted something a little different. Very kind movie-robbers indeed ;)
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Post by: Brendan on June 14, 2003, 08:39:26 AM
Only if Conan got that sort of arrangement. Sorry Conan.
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Post by: Matt on June 14, 2003, 08:44:47 AM
MOVIE-ROBBER 1:  (Breaking through Christoher's door, crashes into room, pulls out gun)  We're here for your Eastwood movies!  Do not try to resist... just hand them over!

MOVIE-ROBBER 2:  Your life depends on your cooperation.  (Throws bag at Christohper).  FILL IT UP!!!!

MOVIE-ROBBER 1:  (Pointing gun at Christopher)  And do it quick!  But hey... you can keep four.  

MOVIE-ROBBER 2:  Yeah, we wouldn't want to take your faves!

MOVIE-ROBBER 1:  Just four... all but four.  Okay?

 ;D
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Post by: eustressor on June 14, 2003, 08:59:00 AM
Hahahaha. That's great ;D

Starring Eli Wallach as robber #1 and Steve Buscemi as robber #2
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Post by: Conan on June 14, 2003, 09:08:49 AM
Only if Conan got that sort of arrangement. Sorry Conan.

  Thanks, yea polite robbers would be nice :)
  I need to quit going off about it though.  I just reread my answer to Ravenwind and realized I came off a little nuts.   :-X
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Post by: mgk on June 14, 2003, 09:21:25 AM
Tagging.....

MGK:  You asked me last night who I felt was the "most good" Eastwood character... now I'd like to ask you who is the "most bad".  Name the character who is the meanest, baddest, dirtiest, least admirable, most sinister and hateful character in the land of Eastwood.

Well, let's see.  The candidates are:

Little Bill (Gene Hackman) from Unforgiven
President Allen Richmond (Gene Hackman) from Absolute Power
Mitch Leary (John Malcovich) from In the Line of Fire
Scorpio (Andrew Robinson) from Dirty Harry
Evelyn Draper (Jessica Walter) from Play Misty For Me
El Indio (Gian Maria Volonté) from For A Few Dollars More
Ramon (Gian Maria Volonté) from Fistful of Dollars

Since I can find some tiny admirable qualities in Little Bill, Allen Richmond, Mitch Leary, and Evelyn Draper....I'm left with Scorpio, El Indio, and Ramon.  Scorpio can scare you to death but it's because he has a weakness.....he's mentally ill.  So, for that reason, I'm going to eliminate him and go with either El Indio or Ramon...neither of which is mentally ill but are both totally self-centered, mean, hateful, and sinister and could care less who they hurt in the process of getting what they want.  They both killed whatever and whoever got in their way but I'm going to choose El Indio as the meanest, baddest, dirtiest, least admirable, most sinister and hateful character in the land of Eastwood because I don't think he has a single redeemable quality about him except for the love he had for Mortimor's sister.  But he didn't love her enough to keep from killing her husband and raping her which resulted in her killing herself.  If you know him, he's your worst enemy...even if you don't know him, he's probably your worst enemy.

bcm:  What is your favorite opening scene of all the Eastwood movies you have seen so far?  Why?

Matt: Which one of the prostitutes in Tightrope did you like the best and you were either sorry she was killed or, if she wasn't killed, you were glad that she wasn't?  Why is she your choice?
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Post by: Matt on June 14, 2003, 09:34:04 AM

Matt: Which one of the prostitutes in Tightrope did you like the best and you were either sorry she was killed or, if she wasn't killed, you were glad that she wasn't?  Why is she your choice?

It's a damn shame there aren't more women around who can suck the sicle off a pop like Becky Jacklin.  (That sounds a lot worse than it should.  :o )  A loss, for sure.  :'(

But who could resist the sultry and exotic Sarita?  And damn... if she doesn't know what to do with a man's tie.   :-*

Sarita's the one! :D

And mgk, since you're enjoying putting me on the spot with Tightrope questions... here's one for you:

Which "bad guy" from an Eastwood movie would you be most willing to spend the night with (if you weren't married).  And no fair picking Eastwood from any of his ambiguous good/bad guy roles.
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Post by: Christopher on June 14, 2003, 09:34:40 AM
Conan, that was a good response to Ravenwind's question. That'd be great to see someone staking out in their car to try to catch some thieves. ;D

Anyway, from Misty:
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CHRISTOPHER: movie-robbers invade your house and want to take all your clint movies, but they say you can keep 4. Which would they be and why?
First off, I'd have to keep Dirty Harry. And after this whole ordeal was finished and the movie robbers were gone, I'd have to take some notes from Conan's post and go after them Harry Callahan style. ;D To get back to the question, I'd pick Dirty Harry because it's one of my all time favorites. I was introduced to Clint Eastwood through one of the Dirty Harry movies.

Another one I'd keep would be my 2-disc special edition of Unforgiven. It's one of the great westerns. It's great to see Will Munny go through such a change from the beginning to the end of the movie. I love the final scene of the movie when Munny is leaving the town. His speech to the townspeople is terrifying.

A third one I'd want to keep would be Thunderbolt and Lightfoot. It blows away all the caper movie cliches. I believe this remains as the only movie I've ever seen with Jeff Bridges in it, and just recently I saw a trailer for an upcoming movie he's in, and while I watched the trailer I thought, "He's still Lightfoot to me." Anyhow, the movie is entertaining, funny, and at last, one of the saddest movies from Eastwood's work. I've never looked forward to the ending.

Picking four movies is kind of tough. But a fourth that I'd pick to keep would be The Beguiled. It's another one of my all time favorites, and it has one of the best performances from Eastwood. Everything about it is great.
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Post by: eustressor on June 14, 2003, 09:49:32 AM
Do you think could have played Charlton Heston's role of George Taylor in the original Planet of the Apes better or just as good?

Interesting question, Brendan. Hmmmm....

(http://www.mystica.cc/images/uploads/sclintheston.jpg)

I can see that :D

I really love Heston's performance in POTA, but I'd say Clint could've done it every bit as well, if a little less woefully and distraught.

Frank Morris - Is there any film Clint starred in but didn't direct that you think would have been better if he had directed it? Similarly, is there any film he directed that you think would have been better if he'd just starred and let someone else take the helm?
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Post by: mgk on June 14, 2003, 09:58:49 AM
And mgk, since you're enjoying putting me on the spot with Tightrope questions... here's one for you:

Which "bad guy" from an Eastwood movie would you be most willing to spend the night with (if you weren't married).  And no fair picking Eastwood from any of his ambiguous good/bad guy roles.

Shucks!!  Can't pick Eastwood!  Well, that narrows it down to three choices:

Butch Haynes (Kevin Costner) from A Perfect World
Officer Mike Grimes (Robert Urich) from Magnum Force (if he was still with us)
Officer Phil Sweet (Tim Matheson) from Magnum Force

My choice would be Officer Grimes (Robert Urich) because he has always been a favorite actor of mine.  He was a really nice guy in real life so I would enjoy spending some time with him as Robert Urich himself but would probably enjoy his company if he was Officer Grimes.  He seemed to have been the least mean of the four vigilantes.

If I can't choose him because he's no longer with us then I'd choose Officer Sweet (Tim Matheson) because he's a nice looking man and I've usually enjoyed any roles he has played....most recently on televisions West Wing as the Vice-President of the United States.

Oh, if it weren't for fantasies, where would we be, Matt? :-*

Doug:  Since you seem to be checking in with us every once in a while.......which Eastwood film do you think had more unanswered plot holes than any other movie of his?  And, do you think it hurt the success of the film?
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Post by: Christopher on June 14, 2003, 10:06:07 AM
Tagging

Walt: What's your favorite Eastwood movie?

KC: Is there an actor that you'd like to see Clint work with that he hasn't already worked with? If so, who?
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Post by: eustressor on June 14, 2003, 10:06:56 AM
Doh! I've got another tag to give...

Misty - Which of Clint's onscreen love affairs do you find the most unlikely, that is, you have a hard time buying that those two would ever end up together? Which one did you find the most believable and/or realistic?
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Post by: misty71 on June 14, 2003, 10:36:14 AM
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Misty - Which of Clint's onscreen love affairs do you find the most unlikely, that is, you have a hard time buying that those two would ever end up together? Which one did you find the most believable and/or realistic?

the one that I cant see happening is Jed Cooper and Rachel in "hang 'em high" I felt that it wasnt necessary and that the script would have been fine without that love affair.I think it looked a little overdone, and maybe the film would have been better if it's only focal point was Cooper's revenge on the men who hung him. But then Im not a huge hang em high fan, so maybe it influences my choice.
 The one that I find most believable would be Robert and Franscesca, since the whole movie is dedicated to their romance, and because I think they acted wonderfuly and really looked in love.
 My second choice would be Dave Garver and Tobie, because there are some beautiful love scenes and the two of them look like they could form a couple

Ok, I only got one tag to do since Ive already been tagged today so here it goes:

CONAN;which scene in any eastwood film, did you think was too long to hold attention and should have been shortened?
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Post by: Frank Morris on June 14, 2003, 10:43:22 AM

Frank Morris - Is there any film Clint starred in but didn't direct that you think would have been better if he had directed it? Similarly, is there any film he directed that you think would have been better if he'd just starred and let someone else take the helm?

Well, the thing about Clint is that he acts just as good as he directs so it's a bit hard to choose, but if i had to i would have choosen True Crime for a movie he would have been better of just playing the leading role. The film was a bit slow and could have been better(hate to say it). But the acting was as usual awsomely great!

A film he would be better of directing would probably have been A Perfect World. If he would have directed the film alone and just focused on that he would have made an even better film!

mc Garrett   - Your favourite Eastwood western and why?
eblair - Your favourite film that Eastwood has directed?
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Post by: Conan on June 14, 2003, 11:10:09 AM
Misty: Which scene in any Eastwood film, did you think was too long to hold attention and should have been shortened?

Tough question, because there are not many.  I would say the training scenes in "Space Cowboys" ran a little long.  And parts in the middle of "Blood Work" seemed to drag.  But really, I'm stretching it because I can't think of one specific scene in an Eastwood flick that is milked to the point of utter boredom.


Tags coming soon...
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Post by: AKA23 on June 14, 2003, 02:03:21 PM
MGK, what's the tiny admirable quality that you're finding with Richmond? I didn't find any.
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Post by: bcm on June 14, 2003, 02:20:32 PM
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bcm:  What is your favorite opening scene of all the Eastwood movies you have seen so far?  Why?
Thanks mgk for tagging me. Great question, much more difficult than I first thought...
Generally speaking I enjoy opening sequences that don't show the skyline of some city by night, or the landscape of some country. This narrows it down a bit, but not too much. One opening sequence I enjoyed was Hang'em High. No credits, you're right in the middle of the happening. And when Matt added the idea that this opening sequence might symbolize the end of Rawhide (which I have never seen), I liked it even more.
But, today, I think my favorite opening sequence has to be the one from Perfect world. When I first watched the movie, I didn't understand AT ALL what this was all about. A man lies in the grass, the sun is shining (sleeping?) Then you see a ghost mask beside him (what does a grown up use a ghost mask for?). Later, dollar bills in the grass, on the man (where does that money come from?). Calm and silent music in the background, the sun with a bird flying "through" it, at this moment the title Perfect world shows. Then you hear a beat, I first thought it was the beating of that man's heart, but then I saw it was a helicopter. He apparently wants to look at the helicopter, so why doesn't he get up? Open his eyes? What is this all about???? The audience sees everything, but understands nothing, because we don't know the story yet. So, all we want now is to UNDERSTAND what happened, what these images are all about. Is there a better way to introduce a movie?

mgk: (Yes, it's your turn now  ;)). I know this question has been asked before, but I'd like to know your answer to it. Which movie would you show a child/kid to introduce him/her to Eastwood?  And why would you choose that one?

Lilly: Since you like to travel, I will ask you a question you have once asked Palm  ;D. If you could take Clint to any place of the world for one day, where would you take him? And why?

P.S.: I'm terrible at inventing good questions, so I just "steel" some I like. Is that ok?
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Post by: Matt on June 14, 2003, 02:49:51 PM
bcm, I remember the first time I saw A Perfect World feeling exactly as you did... being very confused, not sure what I was seeing, interpreting everything pretty much exactly as you did... right down to thinking that the sound of the helicopter was a heartbeat at first.  And then at the end, when we see it again, it all makes sense.  Such a great technique by Eastwood.

And I agree with both of your favorite opening sequence choices.  
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Post by: philo on June 14, 2003, 03:17:22 PM
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PHILO:  I don't recall you ever discussing how you discovered Eastwood films.  Which film of his was the first that you remember seeing?  Was it the one that made you a fan?  How old were you at the time?

It is funny how things come around , I think it was Misty that expressed how good some us remember details of Eastwood films. This was said at the end of the recent quiz , and I was going to comment a little then, on what Matt is asking now .

The first Eastwood film I remember becoming aware of at the time of release is The Gauntlet. I was born in 1963 so that made me 14. My father had been ill in hospital and was in a ward next to a guy who worked in a cinema. I had been a film fan since my Mum started to take me around the age of 10 and he asked this guy if he could get me any film posters.
One day arriving home from school there was a box of posters waiting for me. One of these was The Gauntlet, which had not opened yet. The film was a "X" certificate here in the UK (nobody under 18 admitted) . It was arranged that through this friend I would be able to quietly be allowed in to see it.
That was it ....
A month or so later High plains drifter (X) and The Eiger sanction (AA nobody under 14 allowed) came around and I was also able to see them.
From then on I went all over London to see anything Eastwood including two all night screenings on account of films such as Coogan, sister sara and Beguiled being shown just for those one nighters and that was my only chance to see them on film.
In 1978 I saw my first Eastwood film on tv a late night uncut screening of Hang 'em high.

I started collecting Eastwood material in 1977 and am still collecting today.

Philo ..... This is your life !!!!!    ;)


Philo .
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Post by: philo on June 14, 2003, 03:31:45 PM
From Misty :

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PHILO: i know youre a fan of "every wich way but loose? How do you think the movie would have been different without Clyde? Same storyline and all, but without the orang-outang? Do you think the movie would have had such a big commercial success and why?

I have never really thought about this too much. I do think the film would have been seen as more average with out the unusual angle of having Clyde as Philo's most trusted companion. If you compare him to Lynn he is certainly more loyal and some might say more attractive :o :o :o  (I could get heat for this!!!) ;)

I have some press material from Japan where Clyde is the big secret of the film, he is not featured on any of the poster artwork and on the reverse of a Japan flyer it features pictures of all the cast and a single photo box with this

                                 " ? "

I think this answers the question better than I could.


Philo .
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Post by: mgk on June 14, 2003, 03:33:30 PM
MGK, what's the tiny admirable quality that you're finding with Richmond? I didn't find any.
He could waltz? ;D

Actually, AKA, I don't find anything admirable about Allen Richmond.  I got lazy in my post and lumped him in with all the rest.  However, I wouldn't have chosen him as the "meanest, baddest, dirtiest, least admirable, most sinister and hateful character in the land of Eastwood" either because he's weak.  He doesn't do any of his own dirty work and he's a whining, sniveling wimp and slithering snake of a character but he's not dangerous alone like El Indio is.  He is, however, one of my least favorite characters in an Eastwood movie.

But, thanks for calling it to my attention.
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Post by: mgk on June 14, 2003, 04:08:35 PM
mgk: (Yes, it's your turn now  ;)). I know this question has been asked before, but I'd like to know your answer to it. Which movie would you show a child/kid to introduce him/her to Eastwood?  And why would you choose that one?
The only Eastwood movie I feel I could show to young children is Bronco Billy.   Bad language is non-existent in this movie and the kids would probably really like to watch the show that Billy and his troupe put on.  And, they would love the scene where Billy catches the young boys looking at his car and then shows them how fast he can draw his guns.  Most of Eastwood's other movies are either too serious, too adult, or too complicated for young children.

KC:  I'm assuming that you have seen the movie, The Pride of the Yankees, starring Gary Cooper.  Do you think that Eastwood could have played the role of Lou Gehrig just as well as Cooper did or maybe even better?  If you haven't seen that movie, is there any other baseball movie that you think Eastwood would have been perfectly cast in the leading role?


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Post by: philo on June 14, 2003, 05:01:35 PM
My tags .....

Lilly

In the film industry there is a lot of problems with copyright and clearence on material. It is possible that at one time or another Mr Eastwood has not been able to get a particular song that he has wanted for a certain scene.
Choose a scene that could have a song added and add a suitable one.
Don't worry the question is not needing anything serious, but your thoughts would be good.


AKA

You have a machine that can switch history around. You are going to take one Eastwood and one Harrison Ford film and switch the leads, leaving both suitable for future generations. Which do you choose and why?



Philo .

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Post by: Conan on June 14, 2003, 05:12:21 PM
Tags...

AKA: What is your favorite song from Eastwood's movies?

Brendan: Who is the best looking actress in all of Clint's westerns?
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Post by: AKA23 on June 14, 2003, 06:08:03 PM
Sorry guys. I've been feeling worse than I've felt in a long time, and I know I've been lagging behind as far as coming up with new questions in the tag game. I'll come up with the questions, and keep asking me new ones. I enjoy these questions. Sorry, when you're feeling that sick, it's hard to concentrate on coming up with new questions for you guys.

 
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Post by: philo on June 14, 2003, 06:23:57 PM


Take yout time AKA ,

My question might need a bit of time .


Hope you are feeling better soon .


Philo .
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Post by: AKA23 on June 14, 2003, 07:33:35 PM
Thanks Philo. I think as a partial answer to your question, I'll say Air Force One . I really think Clint could have done that role. However, I must confess, I really don't have a broad exposure to Ford's work, so I'm probably not all that qualified to answer this question too accurately. I haven't seen Blade Runner , I haven't really seen the Indiana Jones films all the way through either. I've seen Presumed Innocent , which was good, but I don't think Clint would have been very good in that role. Not sure about Clint in Witness . I'm not really seeing it. Air Force One seems to fit for me. As far as the reasons why, it would have been rather cool to see Clint in a role like Ford's as the President of the United States, with a good amount of action, a decent story, a crowd pleasing film. More to the point, I see a lot of similarity in Ford and Eastwood's acting styles. He's rather laconic usually, a man of few words, he's rather expressive, he can show his inner turmoil and conflict onscreen, and all of these things are hallmarks of Eastwood's acting style. What do you think Philo? Which one of Ford's films do you think would be well suited to Eastwood?

As far as an Eastwood film that Ford would be suited for, this is even tougher. As a preliminary answer, I'm going with The Bridges of Madison County . Not that Ford would have been better in the role, but I think he could have probably pulled it off, and might have been perceived even better and with more ease as a romantic leading man than Eastwood at the time.

You think these are good choices Philo. Give me your thoughts. If you want me to think about it even more and give you something else later, let me know that too.  

Conan, if we're asking about music in Eastwood's films, I'd probably have to say Kate's Theme .
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Post by: AKA23 on June 14, 2003, 07:37:07 PM
Matt : I'd like to steal Philo's excellent question, and ask you, as I know that you've said that you're a real Harrison Ford fan, and would probably be able to give an even better answer than I was able to do. As written by Philo, You have a machine that can switch history around. You are going to take one Eastwood and one Harrison Ford film and switch the leads, leaving both suitable for future generations. Which do you choose and why?

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Post by: raimius on June 15, 2003, 02:29:55 AM

raimius after years of collecting paperbacks, which would you consider as your favorite memorabile, and why? (it doesn't have to be a paperback, just any Eastwood related item)

Hope I'm playing the game correctly...don't hesitate to fire me if not! "Evil" character...has to be Evelyn Draper. My Tag question was about memorabilia...My gut reaction is my personal memory of seeing Where Eagles Dare at the cinema..first time I saw CE in a movie. Been a fan ever since. Physical memorabilia - my signed autograph with CE and Clyde on a Harley...with some Gauntlet publicity material a close second. Do I now Tag someone else? (I gotta go cut the lawns now!!)
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Post by: Gant on June 15, 2003, 02:56:33 AM
Gee Matt... yours is an excellent question... tho' a tough one for me. Which is my fave Eastwood score or soundtrack ?
Music plays such an important part in Clints films and there are so many great ones.. I'm gonna give special mention to the score in The Gauntlet. I love this one an am a big Art Pepper fan. Obviously Bird is another very special example of a superb score. To be honest there are probably very few Eastwood movies that don't have something I like about the soundtrack.... The spagettis, Tightrope' Dirty Harry... I also like the sounds in Coogans Bluff...

Ok...gotta pick one. I'm going with Honkytonk Man. This has always been one of my favourite Eastwood films. I think the choice of songs, music and the production on them fits the movie and the era perfectly. Clints voice works and theres a lovely diversity to this soundtrack.. Western Swing, blues ,country... Ive got this soundtrack on lp and it is one of my most treasured pieces of vinyl.

OK.. my tag.

for philo

Which is your favourite vehicle featured and driven by Clint in one of his movies...?
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Post by: mgk on June 15, 2003, 04:59:05 AM
raimius....yes, you have answered your question so now you should tag two people with a question for each of them.
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Post by: Matt on June 15, 2003, 07:34:14 AM
Matt : I'd like to steal Philo's excellent question, and ask you, as I know that you've said that you're a real Harrison Ford fan, and would probably be able to give an even better answer than I was able to do. As written by Philo, You have a machine that can switch history around. You are going to take one Eastwood and one Harrison Ford film and switch the leads, leaving both suitable for future generations. Which do you choose and why?

I'll give it a shot.

You're right, I'm a Harrison Ford fan.  Unfortunately, I haven't seen a whole lot of his work.  Believe it or not, I still haven't seen any of the Indiana Jones films in their entirety.  But every film I've seen with Harrison Ford has been very enjoyable.  He's my second favorite actor. One of these days, I'll start collecting his movies and finally see all of them.  

Probably my favorite Harrison Ford film is Witness.  I noticed, AKA, that you said you couldn't see Clint as John Book, but I can!  (Actually, Philo asked me last time we played "Tag" to name an 80's film in which I could imagine Clint in the leading role, and I didn't think of this one.  Too bad!)  

Can you see Clint in this scene?

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RACHEL: I just don't like my son spending all his time with a man who carries a gun and goes around whacking people.

BOOK: Whacking? Whacking?

A chance to combine more dry humor with a quality action and suspense thriller.  Whoo boy, I'd jump at the chance!  

And this film is beautiful.  Absolutely beautiful.  One of the reasons I love it so much is that I grew up near the Amish country in Lancaster, PA.  It's great to see a film that shows the Amish people and their beliefs so accurately, and rather than mocking them, portrays them with the dignity that they deserve.  But it never sounds preachy--the humor keeps it from being too sentimental, but not at the expense of the Amish people.  

Sure, I can definitely see Clint in the role.  I don't say that he'd do it better than Harrison, but he'd do it well.

Now, for the Eastwood film that could star Ford.....

I could imagine him in both The Beguiled and The Eiger Sanction.  I'll go with The Eiger Sanction.  I don't know if Ford would be willing to do all the stunt work himself, but I wouldn't put it past him.  As I said for Witness, I don't think this change of roles would improve the films, but I do think that it would work.

Back with tags...
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Post by: Matt on June 15, 2003, 08:02:33 AM
TAGGING.......

DirtyDuffy45:  You are walking through a meadow and notice a leprechaun who has lost his way.  He asks you for directions, and when you give them to him, he rewards you with a strange gift.  Like it or not, you are about to become one of the Clint Eastwood characters, and live his life... (even if it means going back to live in a different era, if need be) FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE.  The leprechaun asks you which character you choose to become.  Which would it be?  And would you like this strange gift, or would you prefer it if you had never run into that leprechaun in the first place?

(http://home.swfla.rr.com/mattreigns/lep.jpeg)

bcm:  DirtyDuffy45 must have spoken too fast when giving directions to the leprechaun, because he's lost again.  This time, you run into him and help him.  This strange leprechaun only possesses one magical gift... and it's VERY bad luck to turn down his gift!  That gift is to put people into the lives of an Eastwood film character.  The leprechaun tells you that you can become any of Eastwood's leading ladies and live her life, but you'll also have to live her life to the end of yours.  Who would you choose to become?  And do you think you would welcome this "gift", or that you would have been better off never running into that blasted leprechaun?
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Post by: Brendan on June 15, 2003, 08:39:20 AM
Brendan: Who is the best looking actress in all of Clint's westerns?

Marisol or Delilah.
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Post by: Matt on June 15, 2003, 11:30:43 AM
Brendan, don't forget to tag two.
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Post by: AKA23 on June 15, 2003, 11:34:54 AM
What about my choice of Air Force One ? Have you seen that? You don't think Clint would be good in that role? Everything you've seen of Harrison's has been good. Hmmmm...did you see Random Hearts . Wow, so amazingly boring. I had a hard time staying awake. What about Six Days Seven Nights ? The Devil's Own wasn't too great either. K19 wasn't bad, but wasn't anything special either. This new movie of his looks pretty crap too, but I can see how it might be good. It isn't getting good reviews though.

As far as Bridges of Madison County , I might have to think more about that one. I can't see Ford saying I don't want to need you, cause I can't have you...then again, I couldn't really have seen Clint saying that until he did. Maybe if the film was reworked a little to Harrison's style. I can see him doing that kind of Eastwood film.

As far as your question Conan, I've been thinking some more about that one, and I can't honestly say that Kate's Theme is the best music in all the films of Eastwood. Do I need to make a distinction here though? Are we saying music in the context of the film, or the music standing alone? For instance, I think within the context of the film, Ennio Morricone's The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly score is top notch, but I wouldn't think that I'd find myself listening to it standing alone. It works within the film, but outside the film, it isn't something I'd listen to over and over again. Then again, you might not want to put too much stock in my musical discretion. I'm probably one of the most musically illiterate people that you could ever know. My musical tastes range from some classical music, some Arabic music, to the likes of Mariah Carey, Jessica Simpson, Mandy Moore, Avril Lavigne, Shakira, Vanessa Carlton, and Norah Jones. Growing up, I was always listening to Kyxy 96.5 soft rock love song type things I guess, so I think I identify a little bit more with that then all of the popular rap music and things from the likes of Eminem that are so popular today. I don't like any of that. I wouldn't be able to tell you who the artists in most of these songs were, they would all be more or less before my time, but I could recognize the songs. Weird, huh?    
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Post by: bcm on June 15, 2003, 11:35:39 AM
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bcm:  DirtyDuffy45 must have spoken too fast when giving directions to the leprechaun, because he's lost again.  This time, you run into him and help him.  This strange leprechaun only possesses one magical gift... and it's VERY bad luck to turn down his gift!  That gift is to put people into the lives of an Eastwood film character.  The leprechaun tells you that you can become any of Eastwood's leading ladies and live her life, but you'll also have to live her life to the end of yours.  Who would you choose to become?  And do you think you would welcome this "gift", or that you would have been better off never running into that blasted leprechaun?
At first I thought I would never be able to answer that one, but then I found out it was easier to go one by one and ruling out (like a character survivor :)). So, these are my results:
I have nothing against prostitutes, but I wouldn't wanna be one. Bye bye Gus Mally, Delilah and others. There are others who have professions I wouldn't want to work in, bye Lilly Raines, Katie Whitney, Sally Gerber, Jemima Brown.  I would not want to live with men like Tom Highway, Steve Everett or Dave Garver. Frank Corvin and his wife are getting old, I'd rather be younger ;). So I'm left with Francesca or Antoinette Lily. Francesca's life and mine are not too different, so I would know what I choose  ;). I don't like Antoinette Lily. But in the film she magically metamorphoses from the sarcastic sour lemon into the "rooting tooting cowgirl" :o, so I imagine her personality would be changing to the better ;). And she's got two big big advantages over Francesca: she can keep Clint :D, and she's got millions ;D ;D

eustressor: you answered my last tag with a nice picture, thanks! But now I'd like to know why you chose little Bill? So you can make fun of the duck (sorry, duke) of death? So you can be a carpenter?

philo: Which is your favorite poster of the dollar trilogy?
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Post by: AKA23 on June 15, 2003, 11:39:22 AM
Conan : What do you think is the best music in Eastwood's films?

Daisy : Have you gotten to see Blood Work yet? What did you think of it?

Brendan : What did you think of the [/I] Mystic River [/I] book, and can you see it working brilliantly as an Eastwood film? Do you think it can find an audience, or is it as tragically depressing as I it will be? Does this story have the capacity to be one of Eastwood's best films, or is that expecting too much

Christopher : I believe you've read the book. Same questions.

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Post by: Matt on June 15, 2003, 11:41:12 AM
What about my choice of Air Force One ? Have you seen that? You don't think Clint would be good in that role? Everything you've seen of Harrison's has been good. Hmmmm...did you see Random Hearts . Wow, so amazingly boring. I had a hard time staying awake. What about Six Days Seven Nights ? The Devil's Own wasn't too great either. K19 wasn't bad, but wasn't anything special either. This new movie of his looks pretty crap too, but I can see how it might be good. It isn't getting good reviews though.


No, I haven't seen Random Hearts or Six Days and Seven Nights.  I saw Air Force One, but since I haven't seen it since it was in the theater, I just don't remember it well enough to tell you what I thought of it.  I did like The Devil's Own, but it wasn't his best.  

I just looked over on the IMDb, and I've seen every Harrison Ford movie he made in the 90's up until Random Hearts, and although I couldn't tell you much about them without seeing them again, I do know that I always enjoy his films.  
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Post by: AKA23 on June 15, 2003, 11:44:39 AM
Cool. If you go see Hollywood Homicide let me know what you think. If you recommend it, I might go and see it. I like Harrison Ford too, Matt, I just think that like a lot of actors, he's been choosing a lot of the wrong projects lately.

Eustressor : I've enjoyed a lot of your insights in the recent film discussion threads. I haven't always agreed with them, but by and large, you've given us all a lot to think about. So, I'll ask you the same question that I asked Matt. AND, I'm SURE I haven't asked you this one before already ;)!

Eustressor : You're a friend of Clint, or his agent or something, and he comes to you for some advice. He asks you about his next film, he's not sure what he should do. He wants to know what kind of movie his fans want from him, and what kind of film he should do next. Of course, he wants to keep telling intelligent stories for an adult audience, what would you say? What would you like to see for Clint's next? Maybe give a  brief plot outline, or, if that's too difficult, the genre of the film.
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Post by: AKA23 on June 15, 2003, 11:48:48 AM
Oh, an interesting insight on how Harrison Ford has a similar acting style to Clint's, Matt. I saw an interview with him recently, and the Fugitive came up, and Harrison said that originally the scene in the sewer or whatever that was that they were in when Tommy Lee Jones was chasing Harrison Ford, right before he leaps into the water, originally had a lot of dialogue, and was very wordy. Ford said that in discussing it he felt that a lot of that should be trimmed down, that he didn't need to say all that, and that the things that were important in the scene were "I didn't kill my wife" and "I don't care." And, that's how it ended up in the film. Made me think a lot of Eastwood when I heard about that.
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Post by: Matt on June 15, 2003, 11:56:10 AM
Yeah, I see some similarities in their styles, too.  As I said in the old Tag game, when Gant asked me who I'd like to see Clint star with the most, I said Harrison, and I added that I had a feeling they'd get along great off camera too.  

Now, if only it would happen. :)
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Post by: Matt on June 15, 2003, 12:42:45 PM
And she's got two big big advantages over Francesca: she can keep Clint :D, and she's got millions ;D ;D


I thought of a third advantage for you.... Ms. Lily will always have a horse around... "Buster!"  ;D

Thanks for answering my Tag, bcm.  I had no idea it was going to be such a tough one when I asked it.
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Post by: Christopher on June 15, 2003, 12:44:37 PM
Matt, those leprechaun questions were...........original, to say the least (You felling okay? ;) ;D).

My tag from AKA:
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Christopher: What did you think of the [/I] Mystic River [/I] book, and can you see it working brilliantly as an Eastwood film? Do you think it can find an audience, or is it as tragically depressing as I it will be? Does this story have the capacity to be one of Eastwood's best films, or is that expecting too much
I really enjoyed the book, and I am looking forward to the movie. However, I don't know if it's ever wise to expect a lot out of a movie, especially after you've read the book that it's based off of. The story deals with some themes that Eastwood has worked with before, so I can understand why he was attracted to this story. One thing that I wouldn't like is if the story is in some way lightened up. That's been something that has bothered me in the past when I've read a book before watching the movie, but I can't see Eastwood doing that. And from the press I've read concerning studios turning Eastwood down on this project and saying that he should do something lighter, it doesn't sound as if he did that at all. Possibly his best film? That's not anything I'd ever expect.

I'd say it's possible that this movie could find an audience, but it's next to impossible to know if a movie will be commercially successful or not. One thing that I really respect about Eastwood is that he does what he wants, the way he wants. He treats his audience with respect. He knows that he doesn't have to water down the serious subject matter that Mystic River deals with.

Anyhow, I'll be interested in hearing how Brendan answers this question as well.

Be back soon with tags.
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Post by: Doug on June 15, 2003, 12:44:59 PM


Doug:  Since you seem to be checking in with us every once in a while.......which Eastwood film do you think had more unanswered plot holes than any other movie of his?  And, do you think it hurt the success of the film?


Geez, I really don't know.  I haven't seen Absolute Power in a while (which has been criticized here for its plot holes).  Personally I thought Firefox had some, just the whole setup, with only he being able to steal the plane and that he can guide the plane with his thoughts.  Even that I wouldn't call a "plot hole" but just a weakness to the plot.  There's Clint movies where you have to take some things on faith or excuse certain coincidences or unlikely events, but then that's part of the nature of the action genre, too.  I don't usually notice big holes in the plots of his movies.  Maybe I don't look for them.  [Shrug.]  As for having to excuse unlikely events, The Gauntlet is probably the worse of all his movies.  The whole ending stretches credibility beyond all reason.

I don't know if that answer is worthy of tags, but here goes anyway....


Misty: Which Clint movie has made you laugh the most?

bcm: The opposite question, what do you think is Clint's darkest movie?
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Post by: Matt on June 15, 2003, 12:49:19 PM
Matt, those leprechaun questions were...........original, to say the least (You felling okay? ;) ;D).

DON'T knock the leprechauns.  They don't like it.
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Post by: misty71 on June 15, 2003, 12:59:34 PM
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Misty: Which Clint movie has made you laugh the most?

Good one...because theres always at least one moment in a clint movie that will make me laugh, but when it comes to wich is funnier....well, its gets harder.
 Ok first Ill narrow it down to a top 3, which would be;
Every which way but loose
The enforcer
The eiger sanction
 Ok for those of you who are raising eyebrows, let me explain; well,my first choice is obvious;it's a comedy.
 as for "the Enforcer" its' always been a favorite of mine, because its the second CE movie I bought, and since the rookie was the first one, I watched the Enforcer A LOT, sometimes up to 3 times a day lol. I always thought it was hilarious, the "shetland pony" bit and the whole love-hate relashionship between Harry and Kate. It gets me laughing no matter how often I watch it.
 Now the Eiger Sanction; again, a favorite of mine, disliked by most (I think). I like Hemlocks dry humour, like when dragon says something like "sorry, but every year, my blood must be fully replaced" and Hemlock goes "With what?"  ;D ;D I just thought the whole movie was really enjoyable and silly.

Ok.....now time to narrow it down to one
(can you hear the drum roll?)
The Enforcer

yeah, thats probably the one that made me laugh the most...oh Thunderbolt and Lightfoot gets an honorable mention too...
Gotta go eat supper- be back later with tags
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Post by: Christopher on June 15, 2003, 12:59:52 PM
Matt: Is there an Eastwood character whom you can strongly identify with? If so, who?

Doug: (BTW, welcome home to Ohio) What is your favorite comedy out of Eastwood's movies?
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Post by: Matt on June 15, 2003, 01:10:47 PM
Matt: Is there an Eastwood character whom you can strongly identify with? If so, who?

No, not really.  There's a few of the characters that have gone similar circumstances as I have, but our personalities aren't anything alike so I don't really identify with them.  I identify with the circumstances though.

Good enough for a tag?  Or not?
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Post by: Christopher on June 15, 2003, 01:12:43 PM
Yeah, sure. It does answer the question.
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Post by: misty71 on June 15, 2003, 01:14:09 PM
BRENDAN:Why is it so hard not to call you nightwing? ;D....No seriously,Name one clint movie where you think the title of the movie is misleading, compared to the film's storyline (If you dont think that theres any, then name a title that you would like to change and why)

LILLY:(watch out, weird question coming through) Ok, lets say clint died and would be reincarnated as an animal, which animal would you think would best suit his personality and why?
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Post by: Matt on June 15, 2003, 01:20:13 PM
TAGGING....

CHRISTOPHER:  You're walking through a meadow, and you spot a leprechaun sitting at the edge of the lake.  He can't swim, and he must get to the other side.  He asks if you'll carry him over, and when you do, he bestows a gift upon you!  

(This isn't the same leprechaun that bcm and DirtyDuffy45 ran into.)  You get to go back in time and be Clint Eastwood on the day that he shoots any scene in any of his films.  What scene would you choose to film?  Is it your favorite scene, or would you just like to work with those particular actors?

(Figured you might like a leprechaun question too.  Remember, always be nice to a leprechaun!)
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Post by: Christopher on June 15, 2003, 01:31:33 PM
From Matt:
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CHRISTOPHER:  You're walking through a meadow, and you spot a leprechaun sitting at the edge of the lake.  He can't swim, and he must get to the other side.  He asks if you'll carry him over, and when you do, he bestows a gift upon you!  

(This isn't the same leprechaun that bcm and DirtyDuffy45 ran into.)  You get to go back in time and be Clint Eastwood on the day that he shoots any scene in any of his films.  What scene would you choose to film?  Is it your favorite scene, or would you just like to work with those particular actors?
Well, I'm glad I didn't get the same leprechaun that bcm and DirtyDuffy got, or else I'd probably have to throw the little guy into the lake. ;D

There's so many great moments in Eastwood's movies, but one of my favorites is from Dirty Harry. I'd pick the scene at the football stadium. I'd get to work with Don Siegel and Andy Robinson and film one of the most chilling, disturbing scenes from that movie (gives me chills everytime I watch it).
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Post by: Christopher on June 15, 2003, 01:42:18 PM
I'd really like to step on Scorpio's gun wound as well.

Tagging:

Lilly: I don't know how familar you are to Eastwood's westerns, but which one is your favorite?
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Post by: eustressor on June 15, 2003, 02:10:13 PM
eustressor: you answered my last tag with a nice picture, thanks! But now I'd like to know why you chose little Bill? So you can make fun of the duck (sorry, duke) of death? So you can be a carpenter?

Well, he certainly does have some fun, at one point some rather dangerous fun, with the Duck of Death, but that's not the only reason. And, as Clyde says, "He might be tough, but he sure ain't no carpenter!".

I don't know if I can give a sensible answer to your question, bcm - which of course means it's a good one ;). First let me say that I rate Gene Hackman's portrayal of Little Bill Daggett as some of the finest acting I've ever seen on film (blasphemy, I know, on Clint's board - forgive me). Never has a character seemed more likely to step out of the film and into my living room as a living, breathing person, who might want a beer, and then again, might want a fight. Clearly I don't expect that I could act half so well, so why would I want to play the part?

I'd have to go back to my brief stint acting in the ninth grade, when I learned that as an actor, it can be much more fun to play the bad guy than to play the good guy - their charm is more unexpected, their rationale for their actions must be more convincing, and their humor is much more penetrating because it's often just a little bit scary. So that little part of me that wishes I'd pursued acting sees Little Bill's character, as portrayed by Hackman, and says, "Man, that SURE... LOOKS... FUN!!!!"

I think Hackman, initially hesitant to accept this role, was having the time of his life playing this part, and it shows, thus adding a vibrant, convincing aspect to Little Bill's persona - he enjoys his position as Sheriff of Big Whiskey. He enjoys the power, he's building a house, and he's having the time of his life... until "a couple of no-good cowboys cut up a lady", that is ;)



Lilly - Name the Clint film where you feel the set design best served the movie, as in the scenery and sets really "take you there", so to speak.

D'ambrosia - You have the opportunity to take the part of an extra in a Clint production, with a shot at even getting a speaking line - but it would require you to take a week off of work, and your boss has made it clear that would be a bad move if you want to keep your job. Would you take the part? Regardless of your choice, do you think you'd ever regret your decision?
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Post by: bcm on June 15, 2003, 02:11:41 PM
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I thought of a third advantage for you.... Ms. Lily will always have a horse around... "Buster!"  


Don't worry, Matt, I thought about that too. But remember, Buster has got arthrosis... So, with the millions, I'm gonna go out and buy myself a horse like this one (it's the father of my filly to be ;))
(http://www.araber-online.ch/schau/images_bea2003/bajader03.jpg)

(sorry about the giant size of the picture, but I don't know how to get them smaller. And - I'm not the rider ;))
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Post by: Brendan on June 15, 2003, 02:24:29 PM
Brendan : What did you think of the Mystic River book, and can you see it working brilliantly as an Eastwood film? Do you think it can find an audience, or is it as tragically depressing as I it will be? Does this story have the capacity to be one of Eastwood's best films, or is that expecting too much

Since Im not a book expert or anything and Im not a book reviewer, I thought it was very well written and well done. I could hardly put the thing down. Everything was interesting about it, and I loved how Lehane didnt cop out and... well I cant go on furthr or I will spoil movie.

Now as for it being a good Eastwood movie, I think so. I think is one of a few directors who can handle this kind of material and do right with it.

After I saw Blood Work and saw how much Brian Helgaland butchered the book to the screen, I was iffy about this one. But after eading these reviews, I think Helgaland is back to his L.A. Confidential days.

Im hoping it will bring Clint back into the spotlight and it will find an audience. One thing though, is that Clint has done hard storylines before, espicially with Unforgiven and A Perfect World. Unforgiven had Munny as a 'killing women and children' character, so why would an audience care to see this guy? But they did. A Perfect World had the scene in the car between Philip and Butch's escapee partner where he tried touching Philip. That could be disturbing to some, which maybe is why it didnt find an audience?

All in all though, I really do beleive this is Clint "comeback" movie if you will. From the sounds of it, it seems as though its going to be one of his movies where he should be nominated for a directing and best picture award but wont be.


BRENDAN:Why is it so hard not to call you nightwing? ;D....No seriously,Name one clint movie where you think the title of the movie is misleading, compared to the film's storyline (If you dont think that theres any, then name a title that you would like to change and why)

I've been using the name Nightwing on other boards and it has just run its course. I wanted, needed a change, so it I made it happen here.

Now on to your real question, I cant really think of a title where it was mis-leading. I suppose Blood Work maybe since the book was butchered going to the screen it shouldve changed names, since so MANY things were changed and left out. Maybe call it Heartbeat and have Don Johnson star as the killer.


NEW TAGS!!

I'm just going to use tags I did before that havent been answered yet, and then I will fill in the rest with new ones.  ;)

Cal - What movie made in the 1990's do you think Clint would have been great for? (In a starring or supporting role)

KC - Do you really think that Unforgiven deserved to win the Best Picture Academy Award? Why? (If you want, compare it to the other four nominated films)

bdc28
: If Clint was approached to played Gil Grissom on CSI, and he accepted, do you think he would be as good as William Peterson?

zoso: If you could have dinner with Clint, what would you talk to him about?

Lilly
: If Clint only has ONE more acting movie left in him, what do you want the type of film to be?

Daisy: If Clint had played any character in any of the Star Trek series or movies, whether it be a guest starring or starring role, which character do you think he could play?
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Post by: bcm on June 15, 2003, 02:25:54 PM
 :)Thanks for tagging me, Doug.
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bcm: The opposite question, what do you think is Clint's darkest movie?
From the movies I've seen recently, Perfect world would be the darkest. Butch dies, Red has failed, we don't know if and how Phillip will overcome this...sure no happy end.
I haven't seen all the movies, and especially not Honkytonk man, maybe that one is darker? I faintly remember walking out of the theater a bit depressed after Bird, but I haven't seen it since, so I cannot really compare which one would be darker, sorry...
I hope my answer is good enough to tag?

Xichado: Who would you have voted off in the first round of the character survivor game? And why?

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Post by: philo on June 15, 2003, 07:14:41 PM
From Gant

philo

Which is your favourite vehicle featured and driven by Clint in one of his movies...?

Thanks for the tag Gant ,
This was easy as it harks back to the previous tag game when I expressed a keeness to own the truck driven by Philo in Every which way but loose.
This is not just because I like the film, but I could carry a hell of lot of my stuff in a truck like that. Any experts out there know the make, model etc, we don't have anything like that in the UK.


Philo .
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Post by: philo on June 15, 2003, 07:20:25 PM
From bcm :


philo
: Which is your favorite poster of the dollar trilogy?

Thanks as ever for the tag bcm ,

The most impressive posters I have seen are a very rare three set of each of the GBU from Italy. The are gold in design and It would be better if I can find them and post them that to try and describe.

I hope to return with the very images.

and some tags  :D


Philo .
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Post by: philo on June 15, 2003, 08:49:49 PM

No luck on the posters, maybe someone may have an image of them I may have one at work.

very tired  , will tag later tonight .



Philo .
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Post by: eustressor on June 15, 2003, 09:03:57 PM
You're a friend of Clint, or his agent or something, and he comes to you for some advice. He asks you about his next film, he's not sure what he should do. He wants to know what kind of movie his fans want from him, and what kind of film he should do next. Of course, he wants to keep telling intelligent stories for an adult audience, what would you say? What would you like to see for Clint's next? Maybe give a  brief plot outline, or, if that's too difficult, the genre of the film.

Thanks for the kind words, AKA :) And that's a great scenario for a question - the wheels just start to grind away.

On the one hand, I think I'd like to see him bring his thoughtful insight and unparalleled storytelling abilities to a futuristic tale of some sort - not necessarily sci-fi in the Star Wars sense, but something more like The Fifth Element or Minority Report. Near-future thrillers that impact us by the unique way they interpret modern trends and project them into tomorrow - what does this say about the human condition over time? Is this really where we're headed? Even something like Strange Days, where a near-future setting is used as a backdrop for a movie that is otherwise a thriller or suspense story, could be really good as realized by Clint Eastwood.

But more than anything, I'd love to see him do a horror story. Not cheesy franchise splatterfests, but good classic horror like the original Dracula and Frankenstein, or more contemporary psychological horror like The Shining and Jacob's Ladder.

So to me, a great idea for a movie would be something like this old, Golden Age sci-fi story which I think was written by Theodore Sturgeon. I read it at a very young age, and can't be certain who the author really was, or even the title for that matter, but I do remember the gist of the story, because it made a big impression:

In a future society, perhaps not far into the future, a process is developed whereby energy can be extracted from the dying. The act of senescing and gradually leaving this world is found to release energy which can be collected by future technology. So all senior citizens, once they reach the point where they currently are sent to live with family or in Assisted Living facilities, would be sent to these hospital-like institutions (which are actually hospices) full of ward after ward of "patients" who are basically waiting to die in a hospital bed, and producing the energy which powers the society that has told them it's their "time".

Now picture Clint playing a person who helps run or facilitate this process, whether directly or indirectly, who realizes that he now must either face or fight this senior-supplied fuel economy from the other side of the coin - as a supplier... The creepy, macabre nature of the subject matter would be great for a psycho horror film, and the futuristic backdrop would lend it a nice sci-fi or future tense aspect which could really make any commentary latent in the film that much more compelling and relevant.

This kind of movie to me would give Clint a great opportunity to A) Continue portraying protagonists as he has since Unforgiven, characters who have to deal with real world situations related to growing older, and B) address some interesting thematic material as only he can, i.e., what does this process say about society feeding off of the elderly, etc... the opportunity with this kind of story for subtextual storytelling and symbolism seems to me tailor-made for a director with Clint's unique talents.

Back in a minute with my tag -
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Post by: eustressor on June 15, 2003, 09:51:10 PM
Here's my tag...

Matt - Unbeknownst to you, a vindictive ex-girlfriend buys a voodoo doll. She knows you're a moderator on the CEDB, and she's out to stick it to you good. She sits up late by candlelight with Type-O Negative playing softly in the background, cuts out a picture of Clint Eastwood from the movie role she knows is your all-time LEAST favorite, and pins it to the doll's heart with a needle...

All you know is that suddenly you are in the midst of an overpowering epiphany - how could you have missed it for all these years! This was the performance of a lifetime from Clint! Everybody has to know - everyone must be told! With no time to waste you proceed directly to your computer and begin a new thread entitled "THREE REASONS (character name) IS GOD!" to correct all those years of oversight on your part. The reasons can be as simple or involved as your newfound awe of this wrongly-criticized performance dictates.

Who is this character, and what might that first post look like? :)
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Post by: KC on June 15, 2003, 10:29:39 PM
I'm way behind in answering my tags and posting new ones ... sorry!  :o It's been a busy busy weekend!  ;)

KC: Is there an actor that you'd like to see Clint work with that he hasn't already worked with? If so, who?
At this stage of his career, it's difficult to think of anyone. When they both were younger, it's fun to imagine an Eastwood-Paul Newman matchup (the two did pose together for a few publicity pictures back in the seventies).

Counting "actor" as covering both genders ... I'd like to see him work with Julianne Moore and cast her as one of those strong female characters he likes to include in his films ... I think she'd be great.


KC:  I'm assuming that you have seen the movie, The Pride of the Yankees, starring Gary Cooper.  Do you think that Eastwood could have played the role of Lou Gehrig just as well as Cooper did or maybe even better?  If you haven't seen that movie, is there any other baseball movie that you think Eastwood would have been perfectly cast in the leading role?

I have seen The Pride of the Yankees, but it's been quite a few years. As I recall, it is indeed a part I can see Clint doing when he was younger and I think he could have done it even better than Cooper in at least one regard: Gehrig was a lefty, and Clint is naturally left-handed. I'm sure he would have had no trouble with the baseball scenes. Coop, on the other hand, was a righty, and, well ... this is what it says over on the IMDb ...

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Since star Gary Cooper was right-handed and Lou Gehrig was left-handed, and since Cooper's athletic skills were barely passable right-handed let alone left-handed, the close-up baseball scenes were shot with uniforms in reverse type. Cooper would hit the ball and run to third, and the prints would be reversed.


KC - Do you really think that Unforgiven deserved to win the Best Picture Academy Award? Why? (If you want, compare it to the other four nominated films)


Unforgiven deserved to win every Oscar for which it was nominated ... and several more that it wasn't nominated for. It may, in fact, be the MOST deserving movie ever to win the Best Picture Oscar ... which, to be sure, isn't saying much, especially in the past fifteen years or so.

Here's a favorite quote of mine that relates to this topic ...it's by noted critic and film writer Richard Jameson, on the occasion of the screening of  Unforgiven a few years ago as one of a dozen "Films of the Decade" (the 90s) selected by Film Comment:

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You can count on one hand the number of times the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences (plus most of the awards-giving critical fraternities) has hit upon the right Best Picture of the Year. This was inarguably one of those occasions. From its opening image of the town of Big Whiskey, Wyoming, under a crepuscular storm sky to its final, ghostly apocalypse, Unforgiven is a summum masterwork—of its genre, of its director, of its last-of-the-icons star, and of its revisionist decade looking to put paid a century of cinema. Clint Eastwood kept David Webb Peoples's superb script in a drawer for something like sixteen years until he was well and truly seasoned—as an ever-evolving popular artist and as a man—to make it. With performances of a lifetime by the star, Gene Hackman, Frances Fisher, Richard Harris, and every last anonymous, perfectly cast cowboy-casualty.

While I was looking up that quote (in a thread I saved from the old Board) I found Holden Pike's assessment of the Best Picture nominees in 1993. I agree with him, and I'm sure he won't mind if I quote him here:

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The other four nominees for Best picture were The Crying Game, A Few Good Men, Howard's End, and Scent of a Woman. Do you really think any of those films are at the same level as Unforgiven? A Few Good Men and Scent of a Woman strike me as melodramatic obvious Hollywood crap, and with the benefit of distance seem not to hold up particularly well. The Crying Game has a unique twist and some good performances, but is it what you would consider "the best picture of the year"? And to me Howard's End seemed as cold and unemotionally involved as most of E.M. Forrester's characters. Of those five, I think Unforgiven is clearly the superior film, and it will stand the test of time.
(Originally posted by Holden Pike, 01-07-2001)


I'll figure out how many tags I owe ... and be back with them very soon!

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Post by: D'Ambrosia on June 15, 2003, 10:54:31 PM
D'ambrosia - You have the opportunity to take the part of an extra in a Clint production, with a shot at even getting a speaking line - but it would require you to take a week off of work, and your boss has made it clear that would be a bad move if you want to keep your job. Would you take the part? Regardless of your choice, do you think you'd ever regret your decision?

Today, I’d have to be EXTREMLY confident that role would lead to a prosperous career in the movie making industry that’s for sure.  I mean I’ve got great benefits, 100% vested with options, so It’s safe to say I wouldn’t be Brad Pitt’s roommate in True Romance or anything…   So No.  I’d do it if the job wasn’t in jepordy. I’d do it in a heartbeat.

Maybe ten years ago when I was apprenticing as a chef and getting  accepted to the CIA in Hyde Park, yes maybe I was that naïve then.  I certainly would have thought of it. people started telling that I wasn’t fat enough to be chef, you know what they say,  skinny cooks can’t be trusted.…  I got to be pretty big time as sauté chef working under Cameron Mitchell and Jeff Hollenbeck, two of the best executive chefs in Columbus at the time I don’t miss the restaurant business at all  Tough racket.  However, sometimes I miss the people shooting pool, playing tunes on the juke box. Lots of found memories of partying and letting the goodtime role and meeting a lot of great people…   But over time that grind gets old.  Wears you out… As Letterman would say TAS…Tired Ass Syndrone…  
But now at an Elderly 33 I’ve settled down in my old age, I’m content with what I’ve achieved and worked hard for.  I can maintain now so unless I get my golf handicap from a current 9 to scratch, forget about it….  

I could always take time off and do it but if I were to loose my job over it at this particular moment I’d have to say a man’s got to know his limitations…

Oh, I owe two tags.. I’ll be back…  
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Post by: Matt on June 15, 2003, 10:59:50 PM

Matt - Unbeknownst to you, a vindictive ex-girlfriend buys a voodoo doll. She knows you're a moderator on the CEDB, and she's out to stick it to you good.

Eustressor, I see you've met my last ex.  This would just be another day in my life.  But she must be in cahoots with Christopher now, who will most likely enjoy reading my "Three reasons why Pardner is God" post.  :-X

I just woke up for long enough to check the board and go back to sleep.  This one will have to wait until tomorrow night.  And it may take me that long just to think up one reason, let alone three.  :-\
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Post by: KC on June 16, 2003, 12:15:43 AM
I figured out that I owe four tags from June 13 ... three from June 14 ... and two from yesterday!  :o

That's a lot ... I'll start by annoying my fellow Mods ...

mgk: Of all the animals in Eastwood's films, which one do you think has the most important part, in terms of the story?

Matt: You told us all about your preferences regarding the ladies of the night in Tightrope ... how about all of the other scarlet women in Eastwood's films? Any favorites?

Seven more to go ...

DAmbrosia: Interesting to hear about your background in the restaurant business. What food/eating/restaurant scene in Eastwood's movies is your favorite?

Doug: Are there any books you've read that haven't yet been adapted as movies, that you think Clint would do a good job with as director? They don't have to have a part for him.

Xichado: I think I asked this of mgk in the old tag game, but I always like to hear your take on things ... what "weather" scene in an Eastwood movie (that is, a scene in which the weather plays a siginificant role) do you think is the most interesting or significant, and why?

Philo:  If you could change one thing about Unforgiven in order to make it a more enjoyable film for you, personally ... what would it be?

eustressor: (If you've answered this one before, just tell me and I'll think of another ... bit hard to keep up with everything sometimes.) How did you come to appreciate Eastwood? Was it any film in particular?

bcm: Try to imagine a part for a horse in some Eastwood film that doesn't have one. Which film would it be? Why is there a horse in it? Would Eastwood be riding the horse?

Brendan: Now that you have a new name on this Board (your own) ... if you were going to pick an Eastwood character to use as a screen name (here or on some other board), which one would you pick, and why?


Whew!
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Post by: eustressor on June 16, 2003, 12:25:36 AM
(If you've answered this one before, just tell me and I'll think of another ... bit hard to keep up with everything sometimes.) How did you come to appreciate Eastwood? Was it any film in particular?

Well, I have answered this question, but not in this tag game. It was on another thread:

I've always liked Clint Eastwood films, kind of the same way that I've always liked The Beatles - they've always been around, they're always being played, they've always been a big part of the popular culture I grew up with. I'm 34, BTW - Clint already had the Trilogy under his belt before I was born.

Growing up, I really liked Every Which Way and Any Which Way, as well as Bronco Billy and Josie Wales. I had seen bits and sections of all of the Leone films (I think), as well as a few others, like High Plains Drifter, as weekend afternoon movies, and liked them all, but I was a rather pre-occupied kid and usually returned to whatever I had been doing before I walked through the living room and took in a couple of scenes...

I sat and watched Honkytonk Man with my dad when it came out on HBO, because he's a Clint fan, a country music fan, and loves Marty Robbins. I really liked the film. Ditto for Firefox. Clint movies, to me, were always enjoyable.

But I didn't become a fan until years later, when Unforgiven hit. Oh my. To me, Unforgiven splits Clint's body of work much the same way that Beethoven's Fifth Symphony can be said to split Beethoven's work. It's all good, but in light of this one seminal piece, everything else tends to be viewed as either pre- or post-.

So I'm really familiar with most of his post Unforgiven work, because that to me marks the period where Clint has really come into his own as a director. I think he is now one of the finest American directors ever. But I remember fondly my fading memories of the many fine films he made pre-Unforgiven.

I have a lot of catching up to do  :)

Let me know if this counts, KC ;). If so, I'll post my tags in the morning (later today, that is...)
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Post by: Matt on June 16, 2003, 04:16:33 AM

That's a lot ... I'll start by annoying my fellow Mods ...

KC, there's no one I'd rather be annoyed by, than you. ;)

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Matt: You told us all about your preferences regarding the ladies of the night in Tightrope ... how about all of the other scarlet women in Eastwood's films? Any favorites?

I like a few nice girls too... but here's the "lady of the night" that I would most like to...  have coffee with:

(http://home.swfla.rr.com/mattreigns/hangemjen.jpg)

Jennifer, the fiery redhead from Hang 'em High.  ;D

I'll have to post tags tonight.  
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Post by: KC on June 16, 2003, 05:54:57 AM
Well, I have answered this question, but not in this tag game. It was on another thread:Let me know if this counts, KC ;). If so, I'll post my tags in the morning (later today, that is...)
Now that I see that excellent answer again, of course I remember reading it the first time. Sorry!   :o

Since you haven't posted your tags yet ... maybe you'd like to answer another quick question to make up for this one: Is there a screenwriter whose work you admire, whom you would like to see work with Clint?
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Post by: eustressor on June 16, 2003, 06:12:46 AM
No sweat, KC - we all know you moderators are doing "double duty" :)

Is there a screenwriter whose work you admire, whom you would like to see work with Clint?

I'd have to say David Mamet. Glengarry, Glen Ross is another all-time favorite of mine, and similar to Unforgiven, it's the eloquent beauty of the dialogue that really grabs me. Since we have seen the heights Clint is capable of reaching when the script is taken care of, so to speak, and he is free to focus more on the finer thematic and storytelling points of a film, I'd love to see him work with Mamet.

Tags forthcoming...
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Post by: bcm on June 16, 2003, 06:47:30 AM
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bcm: Try to imagine a part for a horse in some Eastwood film that doesn't have one. Which film would it be? Why is there a horse in it? Would Eastwood be riding the horse?


I've always wondered where the farm animals had gone in Bridges. Even the dog disappears... So I think a horse would not harm that movie  ;) Francesca could be leading a horse to the pasture while the truck drives up the driveway... Of course, Robert doesn't know how to ride, so he wouldn't try either :D The horse wouldn't really have a part, but it would just make the farm more a farm, at least in my "horsy" opinion.

Concorde: Since on the old board you were the gun expert, I'll ask you the same question I've asked D'ambrosia. What was first, your interest for guns, or your interest in Eastwood movies?

Matt: after all your ex-girlfriend has done to you  ;), you feel tired, lonely and exhausted. Which Eastwood movie will you watch to cheer you up?
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Post by: Brendan on June 16, 2003, 06:55:17 AM
Brendan: Now that you have a new name on this Board (your own) ... if you were going to pick an Eastwood character to use as a screen name (here or on some other board), which one would you pick, and why?

I actually thought about this when I decided to change my name. I would have either used the name Gunnery Seargent (sp?) or something along the lines of Man With No Name.

The reason? Well obviously I love the character of the Man With No Name so thats an easy one, but as for Gunnery Seargent, I think Clint gave a great performance in Heartbreak Ridge, and it seems to me as one of his most under-rated performances. ITs not Oscar worthy or anything, but its still a good performance, and its also one of my favourite Clint movies.


zoso: If you could sit down with Clint and watch one of his movie with him, and then discuss it afterward, which one would it be?

little_bill: Do you think Clint would have been good as Hannibal Smith in the A-Team? (if you cant decide, or never watched the A-Team all that much, pick another TV show where you think could have been good in.)
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Post by: mgk on June 16, 2003, 07:28:36 AM
mgk: Of all the animals in Eastwood's films, which one do you think has the most important part, in terms of the story?

First, let me dismiss a few and then give my answer.  There is Megan's dog in Pale Rider that is killed during the raid at the beginning of the movie and has a little significance to the story in that it brings Preacher and Megan together so that we can see how Megan's feelings have grown for the Preacher.  Then, we have two dogs who saved our hero's life: (1) Meathead in Sudden Impact; and, (2) the stray dog Wes Block and the girls took in at the beginning of Tightrope.  And, of course, we have Clyde in the "Which Way" movies to help the comedy along in the two films.

However, I'm going to choose "the" elephant in White Hunter, Black Heart.  Wilson (Eastwood) is obsessed with killing an elephant while he is in Africa to make his new movie.  This film has two stories running side by side.  First we have all of the emphasis on getting the film started, mostly by everyone except Wilson (Eastwood); then, we have Wilson who can't seem to concentrate on making the film until he kills his elephant and gets that behind him.

Using the quotes Matt has on his site, here is an exchange between Wilson and Verrill (Jeff Fahey), Wilson's script writer:

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VERRILL: You're either crazy, or the most egocentric, irresponsible son-of-a-b*[email protected] that I have ever met. You're about to blow this whole picture out of your nose, John. And for what? To commit a crime. To kill one of the rarest, most noble creatures that roams the face ot this crummy earth. And in order to commit this crime, you're willing to forget about all of us and let this whole god damn thing go down the drain.

WILSON: You're wrong, kid. It's not a crime to kill an elephant. It's bigger than all that. It's a sin to kill an elephant. Do you understand? It's a sin. The only sin that you can buy a license and go out to commit. That's why I want to do it before I do anything else in this world. Do you understand me? Of course you don't. How could you? I don't understand it myself.

Without Wilson's seemingly irrational goal of killing an elephant, this would have been simply a weak film about hardships of trying to make a movie.  The elephant is critical to helping us understand the character of Wilson.

(Tags to follow shortly.)
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Post by: mgk on June 16, 2003, 08:05:49 AM
Here are the two tags I owe:

Christopher: After being around the Eastwood Web Board for a while now and having watched and discussed most of his movies, is there any one thing about Eastwood's directing style that you particularly like and would want to use if you became a director some day?

KC: I only have a vague idea of what John Wilson meant when he said the following:

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You're wrong, kid. It's not a crime to kill an elephant. It's bigger than all that. It's a sin to kill an elephant. Do you understand? It's a sin. The only sin that you can buy a license and go out to commit. That's why I want to do it before I do anything else in this world. Do you understand me? Of course you don't. How could you? I don't understand it myself.
What do you think Wilson means when he says:
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Do you understand me?  Of course you don't.  How could you? I don't understant it myself.
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Post by: eustressor on June 16, 2003, 10:40:06 AM
My tags, as promised...

Mr. Pants - Congratulations! Hitchhiking back and forth, in and around Carmel for the last six years straight has finally paid off for you - you get picked up by The Man himself. During your all-too brief ride through Carmel, he confides in you, "You know, the only movie I really regret making is __________". What movie do you think he'd say, if he had to name one? Do you agree that it's his most regrettable film, and if so, would you say so?

Brendan - Do you find, generally speaking, that you prefer watching Clint movies alone or with friends? Why?
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Post by: Brendan on June 16, 2003, 12:02:37 PM
Brendan - Do you find, generally speaking, that you prefer watching Clint movies alone or with friends? Why?

I have never watched an Eastwood with a bunch of my friends around, usually just one or two of them. And it never actually made a differance in the viewing.

I more or less, prefer to watch Clint movies alone, without all the distractions that may occur with my friends.

However, I wouldnt mind watching a Clint film with all you people!!  8)


mgk: If you went golfing with Clint, and he was doing really bad and you were beating him, would you start playing bad so he could beat you?
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Post by: mgk on June 16, 2003, 01:48:40 PM

mgk: If you went golfing with Clint, and he was doing really bad and you were beating him, would you start playing bad so he could beat you?
Hmmm....even though I would be thrilled to even be playing golf with Eastwood, I'm afraid I'm too much of a competitor to throw the game.  Besides, I think he's too smart for me to be able to throw the game without him knowing I was doing it.  But, I might try and let up a little to see if I could help him close the gap a little. :)  (Hope I'm not straddling the fence too much here.)


Brendan:  I'm going to tag you right back because I haven't tagged you at all during this game.  If you could sit down and talk to Mr. Eastwood about just one of his films (no discussion except about this one film), which film would you choose and why?
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Post by: Christopher on June 16, 2003, 03:24:19 PM
From MGK:
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Christopher: After being around the Eastwood Web Board for a while now and having watched and discussed most of his movies, is there any one thing about Eastwood's directing style that you particularly like and would want to use if you became a director some day?
I've thought along these lines fairly recently.
I believe it was eustressor who said recently that Eastwood was on the opposite filmmaking spetrum as Stanley Kubrick. Eastwood has a straightforward style that serves to tell his story. I like Kubrick's work as a director, and I like a lot of other visually stylistic filmmakers, but if I ever get a chance at being a director, I can say I'd want to film in a style more like Clint's, which might be that there isn't a style that can be associated with him. He isn't afraid to let a story unfold natually, without rushing it. Very important stuff for any storyteller to keep in mind.
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Post by: philo on June 16, 2003, 03:39:00 PM
(http://www008.upp.so-net.ne.jp/kiitenaijanaika/DSC0031811.jpg)

This is closest I can find to the three poster set that I was talking about. I believe each one of these images had its own poster even the above picture doesn't really show how special the posters are.


MATT

Out of all the still and images you have seen of Eastwood, which one for you says that is Clint Eastwood ?


MISTY71

What is your favourite Eastwood trailer that you have seen so far and why?  



Philo .

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Post by: Christopher on June 16, 2003, 03:56:47 PM
Tagging:

Brendan: Could you see Eastwood doing a horror movie, either starring in or directing, or both?

Xichado: Is there a director that you'd like to see Eastwood work with? If so, who?

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Post by: zoso on June 16, 2003, 04:00:00 PM
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zoso: If you could have dinner with Clint, what would you talk to him about?  
       well, Brendan, since i'm not an overly talkative guy, and given the fact that i'd be slightly starstruck eating dinner with the man, i'd probably want to ask what his daily life is like  and about his golf game. i'd also try to sell him on coming to this god forsaken city [ottawa] just so we can say something interesting happened here for once  ;D
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Post by: Brendan on June 16, 2003, 04:16:34 PM
i'd also try to sell him on coming to this god forsaken city [ottawa] just so we can say something interesting happened here for once  ;D

What, the wonderful world of Canadian Politics aint interesting enough?  ;D

Brendan:  I'm going to tag you right back because I haven't tagged you at all during this game.  If you could sit down and talk to Mr. Eastwood about just one of his films (no discussion except about this one film), which film would you choose and why?

Hmmmm... probably Dirty Harry or Unforgiven, becuase they are two great films, and I'm sure he would have lots to talk about between the both of them.

Brendan: Could you see Eastwood doing a horror movie, either starring in or directing, or both?

Maybe if it was more of a pyschological type horror movie than a gorey type horror. He could possibly pull it off directing wise, but I think he would be good starring in one.


I'm just going to use un-answered ones right now.

Lilly: If Clint only has ONE more acting movie left in him, what do you want the type of film to be?

Daisy: If Clint had played any character in any of the Star Trek series or movies, whether it be a guest starring or starring role, which character do you think he could play?
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Post by: Matt on June 16, 2003, 04:22:37 PM
Here's my tag...

Matt - Unbeknownst to you, a vindictive ex-girlfriend buys a voodoo doll. She knows you're a moderator on the CEDB, and she's out to stick it to you good. She sits up late by candlelight with Type-O Negative playing softly in the background, cuts out a picture of Clint Eastwood from the movie role she knows is your all-time LEAST favorite, and pins it to the doll's heart with a needle...

All you know is that suddenly you are in the midst of an overpowering epiphany - how could you have missed it for all these years! This was the performance of a lifetime from Clint! Everybody has to know - everyone must be told! With no time to waste you proceed directly to your computer and begin a new thread entitled "THREE REASONS (character name) IS GOD!" to correct all those years of oversight on your part. The reasons can be as simple or involved as your newfound awe of this wrongly-criticized performance dictates.

Who is this character, and what might that first post look like? :)

Ladies and gentlemen of the web board, allow me to right a wrong.  For years, I've said that Pardner was the worst character Eastwood ever portrayed, and that Paint Your Wagon was quite possibly the worst musical of all time.    I now realize I was wrong.  Allow me to explain three reasons why Pardner is God.

1.  Pardner bested the Beatles  

The last time all four Beatles would record together in a studio was the same year that Paint Your Wagon was released.  A coincidence?  I think not.  After hearing Pardner sing "I Talk to the Trees" John and Paul knew they'd been outperformed, and decided to quit gracefully rather than try to keep up with Eastwood.  George would pen "My Sweet Lord," after watching Paint Your Wagon, in deference to Pardner.  

2. Pardner helped the space program  

Is it a coincidence that the same year that Paint Your Wagon was released that man first walked on the moon?  Let's face it, Pardner's an inspiration that a man can do anything!  If he can talk to the trees, then damn it, why can't man walk on the moon?  And so I believe that the real inspiration behind Neil Armstrong's famous quote:  "That's one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind," was really the release of Paint Your Wagon.  

3.  Pardner gives westerns R-E-S-P-E-C-T

Paint Your Wagon paved the road for True Grit to achieve Academy Award greatness that same year, with John Wayne finally winning an Academy Award for Best Actor in a Leading Role.  I believe that without the release of Paint Your Wagon, most critics wouldn't have been too interested in watching another western.  Although they wanted to give the award to Eastwood, they feared the backlash of bestowing such a prestigious award to a relative newcomer, so they turned to Wayne.   Later, when a reporter asked him if he felt Pardner was God, Wayne replied:  "There must be some higher power or how else does all this stuff work?"

And so web board members, these are only three of the many reasons why I now believe that PARDNER IS GOD.


(Twenty-five tags coming up...)
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Post by: zoso on June 16, 2003, 04:29:30 PM
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zoso:  I remember you saying not too long ago that you bought quite a few Eastwood DVDs.  Have you had time to watch some of them?  If so, which one that you most recently purchased did you like the best?  If not, then which Eastwood film is your favorite and why?
 
    I wouldn't say quite a few mgk, especially by this boards' standards but i picked up blood work, the man with no name trilogy and unforgiven. the christmas list is quite long this year. i have a few favorites though. gbu and dirty harry because they introduced me to eastwood's cop and cowboy movies but i think my favorite is either josey wales because the story was great and i really enjoyed chief dan george in his role. i also really liked the beguiled. to me it was off the beaten path for eastwood and right in line with some of my more bizzare tastes.
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Post by: Matt on June 16, 2003, 04:45:59 PM

Matt: after all your ex-girlfriend has done to you  ;), you feel tired, lonely and exhausted. Which Eastwood movie will you watch to cheer you up?


Whenever I'm tired, lonely and exhausted, I always turn to Bronco Billy for a pick-me-up.  It doesn't make me laugh, but it always makes me feel good... especially the end scene when Antoinette Lily rejoins Billy and his troupe under the big tent as the Stars and Stripes Forever plays over the speaker.  

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BILLY:  A little late, aren't you?
ANTOINETTE:  I was waiting for you to come get me.
BILLY: Well I've got you, and I ain't never letting you go.

A favorite Eastwood/Locke moment of mine.  :)
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Post by: zoso on June 16, 2003, 04:57:45 PM
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zoso: If you could sit down with Clint and watch one of his movie with him, and then discuss it afterward, which one would it be?
 

    sorry about all these posts, people, i can't get my quoting to work. to answer your question brendan, matt kind of stole my thunder as i wanted to say paint your wagon and ask him what he was thinking or who told him it would be a good idea to do that movie? ;D ;D ;D. but i suppose it would be unforgiven, having just watched it again last weekend. i'd like to get his thoughts on the film and press him for one last western.
     i'll tag: vik.   which comedian, dead or alive, would you most like to see eastwood or could accept eastwood doing a buddy cop movie with?
   aka: what part of clint's film career, if any, would you change and why.
  d'ambrosia: if you were on the golf course with clint and in a tight match, would you let him win with that 5 foot gimme' or would you go for all the marbles? ;D
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Post by: Matt on June 16, 2003, 04:59:17 PM

MATT

Out of all the still and images you have seen of Eastwood, which one for you says that is Clint Eastwood ?

For me, this is the quintessential Eastwood shot:

(http://home.swfla.rr.com/mattreigns/joseytwoguns.jpg)

Western gear, big guns, the squint, and looking cooler than ever.   8)
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Post by: Christopher on June 16, 2003, 05:11:50 PM
Eustressor, I see you've met my last ex.  This would just be another day in my life.  But she must be in cahoots with Christopher now, who will most likely enjoy reading my "Three reasons why Pardner is God" post.  :-X
LOL!!! ;D I did enjoy that, Matt.

How'd you know me and your 'ex was in "cahoots" with each other? ;)
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Post by: misty71 on June 16, 2003, 05:14:02 PM
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MISTY71

What is your favourite Eastwood trailer that you have seen so far and why?  

I havent seen mny, trust me, but I liked the one for thunderbolt and lightfoot because I thought it reflected the fun and the energy of the movie

be back with tags
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Post by: Conan on June 16, 2003, 05:24:47 PM
For me, this is the quintessential Eastwood shot:

Western gear, big guns, the squint, and looking cooler than ever.   8)

  That same shot is framed hanging on my wall, one of two Eastwood pictures that I have up.

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Post by: misty71 on June 16, 2003, 05:37:34 PM
D'ambrosia;Ok,you buy an old lamp at a garage sale.(dont quit reading, it gets better ;)). You come home and start rubbing it with a rag, you know, to clean it. Suddenly  :o"poof" :o a genie comes out.He says you are granted 1wish, but it MUST be eastwood related (Yeah folks, I know, first the kind robbers, now the picky genie, but watcha gonna do?Im running out of originality lol)What would it be? You wanna meet him, Have all his money? be in a certain scene with him? It's your pick. ;D

Dannyman891115;You wrote a script, sent it to malpaso and BINGO! they sent you a letter back, sayiing that, not only they accepted your movie,but that clint will be the star, and you, yeah you, will be his co-star! Whats the story about, whats clint character like,and especially what is YOUR character like?And why?(In other words, if you were to play opposite clint, what kinda movie would it be?)
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Post by: Matt on June 16, 2003, 05:45:00 PM
TAGGING....


Doug:  While on a trip to San Francisco, the infamous aliens that got Agent and Lilly abduct you.  Once upon their spaceship, they explain their master plan.... to figure out what makes Eastwood so admired by men and women alike and to create an entire civilization of "Eastwoodites".  How would you answer them?

jjgonski:  If you needed to come up with one way that The Good, The Bad and The Ugly could have been improved, as hard as it may be... what answer would you come up with?

Philo:  I never thanked you for your post all the way back on Page 9 where you told us about how you discovered Eastwood.  I really enjoyed that. :)   Now, I'd like to turn your last question to me around on you... what image or still do you feel is the one shot that most makes you say:  That is Clint Eastwood.

AKA:  I know you weren't too impressed with Blood Work, but what did you think specifically of Wanda De Jesus as Graciella?  Can you name an actress you think would have done a better job?
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Post by: Brendan on June 16, 2003, 06:06:33 PM
For me, this is the quintessential Eastwood shot:

(http://home.swfla.rr.com/mattreigns/joseytwoguns.jpg)

Western gear, big guns, the squint, and looking cooler than ever.   8)

I have that as a poster. I think its still in good condition. I should try and find it. I tucked it away somewhere.
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Post by: philo on June 16, 2003, 08:58:32 PM
From Matt


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Philo:  I never thanked you for your post all the way back on Page 9 where you told us about how you discovered Eastwood.  I really enjoyed that.   Now, I'd like to turn your last question to me around on you... what image or still do you feel is the one shot that most makes you say:  That is Clint Eastwood

Well Matt ,

The picture below is one of the first I ever saw, it was printed in a small format along with a few others from the same scene that made a kind of film strip.
This is such a cool image.
Thanks to Matt for you all being able to share this.



(http://home.swfla.rr.com/mattreigns/clintponcho.jpg)




Philo .
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Post by: Doug on June 16, 2003, 09:05:38 PM
Doug: (BTW, welcome home to Ohio) What is your favorite comedy out of Eastwood's movies?

Well, personally I'd only count 6 of his movies as "comedies," though most all have humor to them, and some of those are pretty funny.  Of the ones I'd consider a "comedy," I'd have to say Bronco Billy is my favorite.  But I really like Every Which But Loose and yes, I like City Heat.  However, as Matt has pointed out Bronco Billy is a "feel good" movie -- but it also has artistic aspirations.  And Clint did direct it.   So it in a way it seems more personal than some of the others, even his own Space Cowboys, though they share some themes in common.  It's one of his better movies that I've actually had to allow to grow on me.  

I've been tagged two more times which I need to answer, and I owe, according to my calculations, four tags ... but hey, I'm on vacation, so don't expect me to work too hard.   :D  I'll get around to answering my other tags .... and hey Zoso you missed one of mine!  Wish I could remember on which page it was on, but do a "search" and you'll find it.

Hey Christopher, where in Ohio are you?  (No, that's not a tag.)
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Post by: philo on June 16, 2003, 09:30:37 PM
From KC

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Philo:  If you could change one thing about Unforgiven in order to make it a more enjoyable film for you, personally ... what would it be?


This is not the kind of question I like. Why? because I like my answers to be good enough.

The problem is that I am one of the few people that think the screenplay is nothing special (even Clint claims it is one of the best he has ever read)
I have never read early drafts when it was The Wiliam Munny killings , but Clint claimed he didn't make many changes. Now it is no good me saying "Change the story" because I can't say how to correct it. All I can say is that for me a film of a certain length like The outlaw Josey Wales moves much better and has more balance.

No kind of answer, what I wouldn't change are the following ....

Photography
music

The question is a little hard on me , because the film needs more than one thing for it to be enjoyable.


I will only tag once as I have been tagged today and this is it....

KC

Slight reverse of question : Is Unforgiven for you ,totally flawless (honestly)


Philo .
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Post by: Matt on June 16, 2003, 09:38:34 PM
Hey Philo,

Just be glad you didn't get the "List three reasons why William Munny is GOD" question. ;)  ;D
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Post by: philo on June 16, 2003, 09:42:22 PM


Matt ,

I felt like I did    ???

Philo .
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Post by: D'Ambrosia on June 16, 2003, 09:55:42 PM
D'ambrosia;Ok,you buy an old lamp at a garage sale.(dont quit reading, it gets better ;)). You come home and start rubbing it with a rag, you know, to clean it. Suddenly  :o"poof" :o a genie comes out.He says you are granted 1wish, but it MUST be eastwood related (Yeah folks, I know, first the kind robbers, now the picky genie, but watcha gonna do?Im running out of originality lol)What would it be? You wanna meet him, Have all his money? be in a certain scene with him? It's your pick. ;D


To have a 7:00 a.m. Tee Time with him at Pebble Beach.  That would be my wish...

I got to think of some good questions for tags, I know I'm fallen behind...
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Post by: KC on June 16, 2003, 10:01:45 PM
KC: I only have a vague idea of what John Wilson meant when he said the following:

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You're wrong, kid. It's not a crime to kill an elephant. It's bigger than all that. It's a sin to kill an elephant. Do you understand? It's a sin. The only sin that you can buy a license and go out to commit. That's why I want to do it before I do anything else in this world. Do you understand me? Of course you don't. How could you? I don't understand it myself.
What do you think Wilson means when he says:
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Do you understand me?  Of course you don't.  How could you? I don't understand it myself.
That's a very difficult one to answer, especially as the character says "I don't understand it myself." I don't really know what he means either, but I suspect what he feels is something similar to what William Munny felt when he started off following the Schofield Kid. He too is consciously setting out to commit something he knows is a sin ... and despite all his rationalizations, you feel that deep down part of him wants to do it BECAUSE it's a sin.

The difference between Wilson and Munny is that Munny already knows what it feels like to commit the sin ... "It's a hell of a thing, killing a man."

Will that do, mgk? I loved your answer, by the way ... I never would have thought of it, and yet it's so right.

Be back with tags soon ...
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Post by: KC on June 16, 2003, 10:59:45 PM
KC

Slight reverse of question : Is Unforgiven for you ,totally flawless (honestly)


Philo .
Nothing is flawless ... all I can tell you is that I, personally, couldn't point out any flaws in it.
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Post by: eustressor on June 17, 2003, 05:39:06 AM
I have never read early drafts when it was The Wiliam Munny killings , but Clint claimed he didn't make many changes. Now it is no good me saying "Change the story" because I can't say how to correct it.

If you're interested, Philo, here's the link (http://www.screenplay.com/downloads/scripts/unforgiven.pdf) to download Unforgiven (The William Munny Killings). I believe this is the original script at www.screenplay.com. Perhaps a senior member could verify this?
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Post by: MC on June 17, 2003, 01:35:03 PM

MC - If you had to pick one, which would you rather have future generations remember Clint for - his acting skills or his directing skills? Why?

Good question. I think I'd rather have future generations remember him for his directing skills. Acting is obviously a very important aspect of movies, but directing involves immersing yourself in many more areas of the whole filmmaking process. In other words, I think it's a little more impressive to be an outstanding director than an outstanding actor, so that's what I'd want Eastwood's legacy to be.
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Post by: MC on June 17, 2003, 01:55:26 PM

MC: Do you think Clint's directing has changed in any way over the last thirty years or do you think it's basically stayed the same, stylistically.  (Please don't take this as a hard question ... a simple answer will do fine.   ;))

Yes, I think's he's changed, because the best directors evolve over time (part of what makes them great). In Clint's case, I think he became more confident and willing to experiment stylistically and take chances. Specifically, I can't imagine him attempting films like Bird or A Perfect World early in his career. Of course, he's always been a somewhat daring actor and director, but I think he became even bolder as the years went on and he gained more experience.
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Post by: MC on June 17, 2003, 02:03:28 PM
Now for my tags:

AKA: You've been selected to handle the release date and schedule of Mystic River. When (date) and how (wide, limited, etc.) do you release Mystic River in theaters to maximize box office and awards potential?

KC: You're proficient at several foreign languages. Name one foreign-language director, actor and actress you'd like to see Clint work with.

Doug: Which Eastwood films do you think will endure? In other words, what Eastwood movies do you still think people will be watching and talking about in film circles 25 years from now?

Eustressor: Only one Eastwood film has scored an Oscar nomination for screenwriting (Unforgiven, which lost to The Crying Game). Which (if any) Eastwood-directed and -acted films do you think deserved a Best Screenplay nomination, and which (including Unforgiven) should have won?
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Post by: Doug on June 17, 2003, 02:41:48 PM
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Doug: Are there any books you've read that haven't yet been adapted as movies, that you think Clint would do a good job with as director? They don't have to have a part for him.


I've been thinking about this question since I read it, and it's a hard question, because though I read a lot, not many of the books would even come close to being a good "Clint" movie.  Plus I don't want to pick a book with a serious flaw that a screenwriter is going to have to "fix."  Personally, I love Patricia Highsmith's books (Strangers on a Train, The Talented Mr. Ripley).  There are other of her books (most of them in fact) that I think would make very interesting movies.  Her writing is dark and character driven and usually features a couple well-timed murders.  But mostly they're suspenseful and concerned with the psychology of people on the edge.  

The Cry of a Owl is a great book about voyerism, trust, vindictiveness, and a lot of other things.  It has themes that I think Clint could handle well, and a tone that I think Clint could appreciate.  Basically, a man spies on a woman, an ordinary woman, who catches him, but instead of turning him in, she invites him into her house.  Ultimately, it's the mistrust of everyone else that leads to the tragic events to follow.  

I liked this review from amazon.com:
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Patricia Highsmith has her own chilling interpretation of the suspense thriller genre. You wonder not so much about what will happen or how it will happen or who will do it. Rather, the question is: how much worse can things get for the relatively innocent main character, Robert Forrester, who, as the novel goes on, is falsely suspected of a growing number of deaths. Forrester invites suspicion by prowling around the house of a young woman. Depressed by the failure of his marraige, he has moved to a small Pennsylvannia town and is leading a solitary and bleak life. Looking through the windows of Jenny's house, he is comforted by watching the attractive young woman attend to domestic details: cooking, hanging curtains, talking to her boyfriend over dinner. Highsmith presents Forrester's prowling as understandable; slightly wrong, and risky, yet certainly not harmful. Mostly one feels sympathy for Forrester, a character drawn in anguished shades of gray. He is a decent man, with no drive or hope, seeking a little illicit happiness. As the novel progresses, his relationship to Jenny takes a surprising turn of events. Highsmith's mastery lies in the pedestrian inevitability with which she introduces abnormal and even shocking twists of the plot. Because we are lulled into Highsmith's own distinctive world of the darkness of ordinary lives, our anxiety for Forrester is gradually heightened without our even being aware of it. By the time the plot gets around to the events which categorize the novel as a mystery, we are deeply engaged in the psychologies of Forrester and Jenny, as well as several other characters. The suspense thus springs from their own interior struggles, rather than the machinations of a conventional murder plot. Predictably, therefore, there are no easy solutions in the end, no complex train of events to be tied up in one simple explanation. The adding up of the actions of people who are no more conscious of why they do what they do than any regular person, has, in this novel, an utterly gripping and painfully believable tragic outcome.


There's actually another book I have on my shelf that I think would be more ideal, but at the moment I can't remember the title or author.
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Post by: eustressor on June 17, 2003, 05:15:08 PM
Eustressor: Only one Eastwood film has scored an Oscar nomination for screenwriting (Unforgiven, which lost to The Crying Game). Which (if any) Eastwood-directed and -acted films do you think deserved a Best Screenplay nomination, and which (including Unforgiven) should have won?

Thanks for the tag, MC. I enjoyed reading your answers to both Doug's question and my own, BTW.

As far as nominations go, I think the script for A Perfect World may have deserved a nomination, but I doubt that it would have won. I thought it was an excellent screenplay, but the acting and directing were the inner fire in that film.

Unforgiven, Unforgiven, Unforgiven... Don't get me going on Unforgiven ;) KC had a related quote recently, let me find it...OK

Regarding Philo's question as to whether she truly felt Unforgiven was flawless, she replied:

Nothing is flawless ... all I can tell you is that I, personally, couldn't point out any flaws in it.

A great quote and I completely agree. Which is to say, Unforgiven should have won the screenplay award (it REALLY should have won Best Screenplay), but more than that, any other category it could have possibly qualified for, up to and including Best Best Boy!

And that's my detached, objective answer. I'm holding back my headstrong, biased opinions until the appropriate film discussion arrives ::)

Tags in a few...
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Post by: eustressor on June 17, 2003, 05:39:04 PM
Tagging:

AKA23 - In a parallel universe, Clint never took up directing. However, he did have the clout to pick and choose his projects, and to look for films that best suited the kinds of issues he wanted to address. Therefore, his filmography remained the same. What movie do you think would have suffered the most minus Clint as a director, and are there any you feel would have been better without him sitting in the Big Chair?

bcm - If Clint had the ability and the inclination to remake just one of his movies with the benefit of hindsight, which one do you think he'd be most likely to choose? What do you think would be the biggest change?
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Post by: Doug on June 17, 2003, 08:06:13 PM
TAGGING....


Doug:  While on a trip to San Francisco, the infamous aliens that got Agent and Lilly abduct you.  Once upon their spaceship, they explain their master plan.... to figure out what makes Eastwood so admired by men and women alike and to create an entire civilization of "Eastwoodites".  How would you answer them?


I'd tell them "Good luck, but one thing about Clint is he's an individualist, so how are you going to create a bunch of Eastwoodites?  Don't be surprised if they start rebelling and doing the opposite of what you expect or want."  

With that said, I'd give them this list:

1. Have a sense of humor.

2. Have loyalty toward your friends, and don’t talk trash about those who hate you or are jealous of you.   (Take it to court if you truly feel wronged -- or sock in the jaw... :D)

3. Say what you need to, but otherwise let your actions speak for themselves.  Learn to look graceful and in command no matter the situation.

4. Workout, workout, workout – and oh, yeah, take vitamins, and look good in a uniform, and with sunglasses, look good with or without a beard (for the men) and while riding a motorcycle.
5. Do what you believe in, no matter how many critics tell you not to.

6. Learn how to deliver a one-liner.

7. Learn how to squint, do a double-take, and not make wasted movements.

8. Take risks.

9. Kick butt.

10. Be tall, lean, ruggedly handsome, and just so damn cool that nothing else matters.   8)


Title: Re:TAG, you're it!
Post by: Doug on June 17, 2003, 08:23:49 PM
Now for my tags:


Doug: Which Eastwood films do you think will endure? In other words, what Eastwood movies do you still think people will be watching and talking about in film circles 25 years from now?

I honestly think most of his movies will endure, only because it's Clint Eastwood.  But some I'm sure will become more obscure.  

What will definitely endure...
the Spaghetti Westerns and the westerns he directed.

Dirty Harry

the "ape movies"

The Bridges of Madison County

Where Eagles Dare

Other than that and I'm just picking what I think are his best movies.  The westerns and Dirty Harry are the core of Clint's filmography.  At least Every Which Way But Loose will also endure because of its lighthearted appeal.  Bridges because a great romance is hard to find and this is a good one.  And I Where Eagles Dare has long been a classic, and I think it's a movie that will always have an audience among film buffs, war movie fans, and fans of cool, action-oriented movies.  It will always be around, however much technology and cgi effects take over the action genre.  There's a lot of his movies that should endure, and a lot of movies I hope endure, but let's face it, there's kids out there now who don't know Clint and don't care.  A hundred years from now, people will have new heroes.  But just as Bogart has endured, so will Clint -- but I do hope some of his better movies (like Tightrope and A Perfect World) are still shown and appreciated a hundred plus years from now.  

I've lost count on tags, so I'll fake it.  Back in a minute.


[I just noticed you said 25 years -- I was thinking in terms of 100 years.  I'm almost inclined to think he will be talked about more in 25 years than he is now -- at least amongst those who are serious about film.  Which movies of his that are"talked about" and by whom 25 years from now may very well impact which additional movies other than what I mentioned are remembered generations later.]
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Post by: Doug on June 17, 2003, 08:47:34 PM
Tags:

Matt: You've seen some of Clint's "pre" movies and episodes from Rawhide ... how much of the Clint persona do you see in those?

KC: Personal question: Do you have any Clint memorabila out in your house/apartment or adorning your computer (i.e. wallpaper, sounds...)?  (And what, if you don't mind answering?)

dannyman891115: How did you come to like Clint Eastwood?

CalGal: What is your favorite movie of Clint's since 1980?

TheStranger: What is you favorite "frivolous" Clint movie -- you know, one without much in the way of artistic aspirations?  It's just a fun movie you like.

Brendan: What young actor (under thirty-five) do you think comes the closest to matching Clint in his acting style?  



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Post by: Brendan on June 17, 2003, 08:58:40 PM
Brendan: What young actor (under thirty-five) do you think comes the closest to matching Clint in his acting style?  

HUGH JACKMAN!!  ;D

No, seriously though, thats a hard one. I cant really answer that one. Theres no young actor of today that really captures the sublteness of Clints performances. Clint can just stand there and put an exspression on his face and you know whats going on by that. Theres really no young actor of today that can do that as good as he can.

I suppose if I had to choose it would be Liev Schreiber. The way he played John Clark in The Sum of All Fear was great. The scene he shared with Morgan Freeman in the rain was done very well by him and the way he did his facial exspressions was great.


NEW TAGS:

misty71: What Clint movie do you really want to own and why?

Conan: Would you rather get an all exspensis paid trip to New York City for a week (to not only visit KC) but to co-host the Late Show with Conan O'Brien or would you rather work-out with Clint for one day?
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Post by: Matt on June 17, 2003, 09:06:56 PM

Matt: You've seen some of Clint's "pre" movies and episodes from Rawhide ... how much of the Clint persona do you see in those?


None at all.  One of the reasons I give so much credit to Leone for Clint's success is that after all those years of working on a western every day on television... there was nothing "Clint Eastwood-ish" about Rowdy Yates.  To put it succinctly... he was a clod.  

All these years later, you can detect the style and attitude of the Man With No Name in nearly every Eastwood role he would portray since A Fistful of Dollars.  But I can't see any of that persona in anything Clint did prior to working with Leone.  

(Tags-a-comin'!)
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Post by: Matt on June 17, 2003, 09:32:29 PM
TAGGING...

Maddog_Frenzy:  Which character portrayed by Eastwood is your favorite, and why?

Christopher:  Who is your least favorite villain or adversary in an Eastwood film, and why?
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Post by: Conan on June 17, 2003, 09:36:09 PM
Conan: Would you rather get an all exspensis paid trip to New York City for a week (to not only visit KC) but to co-host the Late Show with Conan O'Brien or would you rather work-out with Clint for one day?

  Tough one.  As I idolize both of those guys...The ONLY problem with co-hosting Conan is that I would look like a giant, unfunny idiot as his sidekick - Partly due to the fact that I would be in complete and total awe of his wit and partly because I just don't bring the funny like he does (not many do).  However, meeting Conan and hanging out with him would make my year...Man, I would have a stupid grin on my face for a long time after that.  I have several sketch ideas that I would love to run by him, but I'm sure everyone and his brother does as well  ::)
  Now meeting Clint would be unreal, and working out with him would flat out rock.  I assume we'd talk movies and hopefully exchange workout advice; I'm sure he knows much more about cardiovascular training than I do.  And man I would LOVE to know what his lifting/diet regimen was for the "orangutang movies".  Anyway, I choose "working out with Clint for a day" between those two choices...I would prepare for that workout like it was a hardcore ironman triathalon.

Tags:

The Stranger: What is the best line that The Man With No Name character ever said?

Lilly: Replace the actor that played the bad guy (Scorpio) from "Dirty Harry" with another actor that could do an equal or better job.
Title: Re:TAG, you're it!
Post by: maddog_frenzy on June 17, 2003, 10:27:47 PM
from Matt  Today at 10:32:29pm
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Which character portrayed by Eastwood is your favorite, and why?

Personally, it's a toss-up between Josey Wales and Joe Kidd. Both show some degree of compassion toward the "foreigners," the former toward the old Native American, the latter toward the Mexican. This helps dispel the stereotype of cowboy as xenophobe.

I also get a kick (no pun intended, coming up, wait for it...) out of the selection of weapons each uses, particularly the Sharps (?) rifle Joe Kidd uses to snuff the bad guy on the ridge. I like sniper stuff, as long as the good guys are the snipers. This may explain my Quigley Down Under affiliation (see image associated with my login name, upper left; that's Tom Selick peering through a Sharps sight).

I also like both of these man-WITH-a-name characters because their personas are more human than Eastwood's other nameless characters. But Joe Kidd seems to be the most "regular guy" character, so I'm gonna go with that.

BUT, I ain't seen all of Clint's flicks yet QUIT LAUGHING AT ME

Why do you ask? ;D
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Post by: AKA23 on June 17, 2003, 10:34:30 PM
aka: what part of clint's film career, if any, would you change and why.

Thanks for the tag Zoso. If you could please do me a favor and bold or do something to offset your tags from the rest of your text so that they can be more easily read, that would be GREAT. It's partly my fault. I saw your question, and waited to answer it, and then a lot of new tags had been generated, so it was difficult to find looking through the pages.

I hate to say this, and I really apologize to everyone who just loved this movie, but really, I think I'm going to say Blood Work . I was looking forward to this movie, thinking it was going to be fabulous, just seeing all the potential in it, and when I saw it, I just wished as if Clint had never made it in the first place. The end product was very disappointing to say the least, and I wish looking back that Clint would have either not done this project at all or done it very differently, put some more effort into it, made better decisions with it, so that it would turn into a better and more enjoyable film for me. As it stands, I think I'd change that movie because that part of his filmography was not one of his high points for me, and it's a project that I really thought I was going to enjoy immensely. I might have a different answer later, but for now, that's what I'd change.
Title: Re:TAG, you're it!
Post by: Matt on June 17, 2003, 10:37:25 PM
Maddog-Frenzy, don't forget to tag two members.
Title: Re:TAG, you're it!
Post by: AKA23 on June 17, 2003, 10:42:43 PM

AKA:  I know you weren't too impressed with Blood Work, but what did you think specifically of Wanda De Jesus as Graciella?  Can you name an actress you think would have done a better job?

You know Matt, this is another one of those mysteries for me when I look at Blood Work and I see how I feel and how you feel and how a select few other people feel, and then I look at the huge disparity between our feelings and those that see so much more in this project than we do, and in particular, see such an effective and genuine, heartfelt, nuanced, subtle, beautiful performance by Wanda De Jesus as Graciella Rivers. Sorry, but I just don't see it. Wanda De Jesus might have just not been up to playing the character in the first place, or perhaps didn't have too much to work with as far as the script goes and the way the character was written, but it was definitely not realized well on screen. I didn't feel as if Graciella Rivers was portrayed well at all. That character could have at least added a lot more emotion and a nice human connection for the viewer so that we could FEEL what she was feeling, appreciate the story on that level, connect with the human interest story, which would have made it far more enjoyable, but I didn't see that happening.

As far as a replacement for her who would have done a better job, I'm not TOO sure. Assuming we want to keep the character Latina and not change the ethnicity of the character to accomodate other actresses, we'd have to keep it within the same age range as well, so it really is tough for me to come up with someone else. Nothing is coming to me now, and I'm not too familiar with Latina actresses in that age range to begin with. Do you have any ideas Matt?
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Post by: AKA23 on June 17, 2003, 10:44:20 PM
Now for my tags:

AKA: You've been selected to handle the release date and schedule of Mystic River. When (date) and how (wide, limited, etc.) do you release Mystic River in theaters to maximize box office and awards potential?

Interesting question. I'll think about that one, MC.
Title: Re:TAG, you're it!
Post by: AKA23 on June 17, 2003, 10:47:16 PM
Guys, does anyone want to do me a huge favor and tell me if I have any outstanding questions that I haven't answered (I know I still have MC's and Eustressor's), and how many questions I owe from these tags. I'm getting confused, and I know I'm behind on the tagging. Matt, you know how many tags I still owe from all these questions?
Title: Re:TAG, you're it!
Post by: Matt on June 17, 2003, 10:49:41 PM
No, I don't have any other ideas, AKA.  Does anyone?  All member tag! ;)

I agree with everything you said in your post about De Jesus, but you already know that.  I found it to be a very stiff, pedestrian performance, with no heart.  Terrible, terrible casting.  But then again... so was most of the casting in this film.
Title: Re:TAG, you're it!
Post by: Matt on June 17, 2003, 10:52:06 PM
Guys, does anyone want to do me a huge favor and tell me if I have any outstanding questions that I haven't answered (I know I still have MC's and Eustressor's), and how many questions I owe from these tags. I'm getting confused, and I know I'm behind on the tagging. Matt, you know how many tags I still owe from all these questions?

AKA, I've had one foot out the door to go to bed for about half an hour now, so I don't want to go through all these pages and look for your tags.  When you find them all, you'll tag TWO members for the first question you answer tonight, and one member for each of the following questions you answer tonight.  It doesn't matter what night the questions were asked.

Goodnight. (http://users.pandora.be/eforum/emoticons4u/sleep/schla03.gif)
Title: Re:TAG, you're it!
Post by: AKA23 on June 17, 2003, 10:55:50 PM
Night, Matt! Some of these questions have been really good. I promise I'll get to them all, and all the new ones that I continue to get asked. I might do it tomorrow though. I'm still feeling really sick, so to go through all those pages and look for the tags now, it just isn't going to happen. Only reason I appealed for help. Maybe I'll do a web board search and get to the tags that way! But, it will have to be another night. I promise I'll try to at least ANSWER all the questions in a more or less timely fashion.
Title: Re:TAG, you're it!
Post by: maddog_frenzy on June 17, 2003, 11:13:19 PM
Matt barks:
[td]Maddog-Frenzy, don't forget to tag two members. [/td][/table]

The never-ending thread... I'll tag at my earliest convenience. For now, I must whiz on the fire, check on the horses, and pull up a nice, fluffy rock for a little shut-eye (check out this posting time...).

Vi ses!
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Post by: KC on June 17, 2003, 11:54:06 PM
KC: You're proficient at several foreign languages. Name one foreign-language director, actor and actress you'd like to see Clint work with.
I don't really keep up with contemporary foreign-language films, so it's hard to pick anyone from the current crop. Also, at this stage of his career, I really don't want to see Eastwood waste his time in other directors' films. He's his own best director ... as I'm sure he knows.

Going back a couple of decades ... it would have been interesting to see what the one-of-a-kind genius of Rainer Werner Fassbinder would have done in collaboration with Eastwood. He liked to take old-fashioned cinematic icons and place them in disturbing new settings.

As for an actor ... I just got the July program of the Film Society of Lincoln Center in the mail and my answer is there. They're doing an Alain Delon retrospective (http://filmlinc.com/wrt/programs/7-2003/delon.htm).

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Throughout a career spanning almost 50 years and 75 films, Alain Delon has frequently seemed split in two, his daunting grace and disarming beauty barely masking a dark, raging internal world. ... His big break came [in 1959], when René Clement cast him as Tom Ripley in his adaptation of Patricia Highsmith's The Talented Mr. Ripley. ...  As he grew older, and the youthful softness of his features began to harden, Delon became increasingly identified as an actor (and later as a producer, writer and director) with the policier, the crime film. With its penchant for emphasizing the treacherousness of appearances and plots that often hinge on betrayals or sudden revelations, the policier provided the perfect vehicle for Delon to continue to explore the duplicitous persona that has always been at the core of his appeal.

It would be interesting to imagine a match-up of Delon and Eastwood when they both were young and dazzling ... (here is Delon, at right, in the original version of Highsmith's The Talented Mr. Ripley, released in this country as Purple Noon ... )
(http://www.filmkultura.iif.hu:8080/articles/profiles/images/delon/soleil.jpg)

... but I think it might be even more interesting in the mature phase of their careers. (Here he is in Godard's Nouvelle Vague from 1990 ...)

(http://filmlinc.com/wrt/programs/7-2003/jpegs/nouvellevaguelg.jpg)

As for an actress ... Catherine Deneuve. ;)
(http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:eUv7kzSpzGIC:www.chez.com/palerider/Images/eastwood94.jpg)
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Post by: KC on June 17, 2003, 11:56:59 PM
Matt barks:
[td]Maddog-Frenzy, don't forget to tag two members. [/td][/table]

The never-ending thread... I'll tag at my earliest convenience. For now, I must whiz on the fire, check on the horses, and pull up a nice, fluffy rock for a little shut-eye (check out this posting time...).

Vi ses!
(http://users.erols.com/kcoblenz/Lol.GIF)Hej då, Swede! ;)
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Post by: KC on June 18, 2003, 12:19:27 AM
KC: Personal question: Do you have any Clint memorabila out in your house/apartment or adorning your computer (i.e. wallpaper, sounds...)?  (And what, if you don't mind answering?)
I do have a lot of Clint memorabilia, including some that I treasure highly, but the only thing that's "out" is a minature standee from Unforgiven (William Munny from the poster image) ... that was the first thing I acquired, and it was given to me by the owner of Evergreen Video, one of New York's great video stores, when I went in to browse with a friend one day a few months after the video release. We were about to walk out of the store without renting or buying anything ... but he'd seen the glint in my eye when I asked if the standee was for sale. He called me back with "If you want that little standee, you can have it." That was how it all started ...

As for "adorning my computer," I do have a Clint image (from Bridges) that appears when the machine boots up ... and a "sound scheme" composed of Eastwood sound bites. Also ... a little "gun" cursor I designed that appears for "working in the background." ;)

By the way, Doug, not that it takes anything away from your excellent answer to my tag about books you'd like to see Clint film ... but Highsmith's The Cry of the Owl has already been filmed twice, once by French director Claude Chabrol (Le cri du hibou (http://us.imdb.com/Title?0092797)), and once for German television (Der Schrei der Eule (http://us.imdb.com/Title?0093928)) ... both in 1987.

Getting ... very ... sleepy. Tags (also from yesterday) will come tomorrow ... (http://users.erols.com/kcoblenz/redface.gif)
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Post by: KC on June 18, 2003, 06:46:48 AM
Matt barks:
[td]Maddog-Frenzy, don't forget to tag two members. [/td][/table]

The never-ending thread... I'll tag at my earliest convenience. For now, I must whiz on the fire, check on the horses, and pull up a nice, fluffy rock for a little shut-eye (check out this posting time...).

Vi ses!

It's not never-ending, since we'll be drawing this tag session to a close on Sunday night.  If you're too busy, sleepy, or whatever ... tagging isn't obligatory!

I, however, will try my hardest to catch up with all the tags I owe tonight!  ;)
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Post by: misty71 on June 18, 2003, 09:10:07 AM
ok, Nightwings question is too far for me to quote, but it was "whichc clint movie do you want to own and why" or something very close to that.ok,I presently own 38 clint movies, and among those I havent seen and would like to see/own, would be "any which way you can" Im a big fan of "every which way but loose" I think Philo Beddoe is a wonderful character, and I would love to see Any which way....Itll be my next buy!
 TAGS (Im trying to get new people to play)

SKIPPY:(We gotta get him into this game ;))You have a lot of questions about clint, which means you are obviously interested in knowing a lot about him....So how did you get to know him?Tell me how you became a fan of his and why you like him

GARYOPERATOR: After reading your post in the "how complete is your clint collection" Thread, I can only assume/hope, that you own ALL the pre-dollars films. Which did you like the most and why?


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Post by: skippy on June 18, 2003, 10:47:25 AM
I got interested in him by one of my family members. We always see one of his movies a week. I became a fan because everbody was talking about him and also he was on T.V.


JOE- What ce movie was the best one you watched? How did you become his fan?

Noose burn- Why are you so interested in him.
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Post by: vik on June 18, 2003, 12:19:51 PM
ok answwering matt

i would get clint to advertise cadburys chocolate - i only have a couple a year  ;)

it would be a picture of him swinging his golf club and instead of a golf ball a big bar of chocolate and he would have one of those sweet grins
and the caption would say "Clint's not just sweet on golf"

matt your tag ::

you are part of the clint entourage - clint gives you the job of finding the next film and you are to be the main co-star  

1. what kind of film would you choose eg.western, detective etc. you may have a title in mind

2. what part you would play - buddy- buddy,  a killer that kills Clint off (booo)  

3. what part would you like clint to play  

4. who would be your other co-stars
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Post by: bcm on June 18, 2003, 02:39:45 PM
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bcm - If Clint had the ability and the inclination to remake just one of his movies with the benefit of hindsight, which one do you think he'd be most likely to choose? What do you think would be the biggest change?

 Hey eustressor, you got my brain working with that one ;). After watching Firefox yesterday night, I will pick that movie. This is back cold war era, the russians are basically bad, KGB everywhere. Knowing how Eastwood, in most of his movies, avoids this black and white description of good and evil, I wonder if he would not change the story a little. Eiger sanction also tells a story set in cold war era, but there he avoids this trap of clichées. And I think the suspense could be just as good, even if he allowed a more differenciated description of the good/bad. I just miss the real story, all I saw was suspence. And usually, Eastwood wants to tell us stories, like the story why a man seeks isolation after having been a soldier... So, I think, to be able to make this film more a story, he would allow Gant to express more about his feelings in this mission, and maybe the KGB would be a bit more human too (I had the feeling that all they did was shout, beat, shoot). Does that answer your question?

Matt: I know you have several tags up, but this elf really insists in offering you a special gift! She has read all the problems you had with your ex, so she wants to make you happy for the rest of your life  ;D  You can/must marry one of the characters of Eastwoods films, who do you choose? And the elf wants to know the reason for your choice (yes, happiness doesn't come free...)

mgk: I bet you know what is coming here  ;). Since the elf was allowed to give a gift to Matt, the goblin wants to offer you something as well. So, you are put in the same situation as Matt, who do you choose? (and yes, you may choose an Eastwood persona, the goblin won't be too tough :D)

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Post by: Christopher on June 18, 2003, 03:06:07 PM
Christopher:  Who is your least favorite villain or adversary in an Eastwood film, and why?
Well, this is kind of hard, I had to think about this for a little bit. Since I don't remember the villain from City Heat, and even though I recently watched Firefox within the last few months, I couldn't tell you much about the villain, or anything else about the movie for that matter. So I'll have to go with the guy from Pink Cadillac. Timothy Carhart plays Roy McGuinn. From my memory, he's just not one of the stronger villains in an Eastwood film.
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Post by: Matt on June 18, 2003, 03:28:33 PM
Vik, good answer to my tag!  ;D


matt your tag ::

you are part of the clint entourage - clint gives you the job of finding the next film and you are to be the main co-star  

1. what kind of film would you choose eg.western, detective etc. you may have a title in mind

2. what part you would play - buddy- buddy,  a killer that kills Clint off (booo)  

3. what part would you like clint to play  

4. who would be your other co-stars

And a question I'll enjoy answering!  *begins to daydream*

It would definitely be a western!  I'd be the bad guy... really bad.  Imagine an American Ramón Rojo.   :D

I'd become obsessed with a woman, killing off her entire family and taking her prisoner.  Unfortunately for me, her husband survives (just barely) and having very little money, can only afford to hire an old, washed up bounty hunter to get her back and kill me.

Penélope Cruz would play the part of the woman I capture, and there would have to be at least one scene where I get to kiss her... really well.  And I'd make sure I messed up my lines a few times so we'd have to shoot it a few times.  :D

It would co-star my web board buds, who I'm sure would LOVE to be in an Eastwood film and meet the man.  BDC, Agent, Stranger, Philo... up to the job?  AKA, could you stand to be an outlaw?  One by one, we'd all be killed by Clint.  What an honor!!!  I would NEVER want to kill an Eastwood character, but oh... to be killed by one...  ;D

And it would be scored by Morricone...  ;D

Thanks for the tag, Vik... that was fun to dream about.
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Post by: Christopher on June 18, 2003, 03:35:51 PM
Tagging:

Conan: If you were going to pick an Eastwood related screen name for this site, what would it have been (would it have been from your favorite Eastwood movie...)?

bcm: How did you become an Eastwood fan?
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Post by: Matt on June 18, 2003, 03:41:23 PM

Matt: I know you have several tags up, but this elf really insists in offering you a special gift! She has read all the problems you had with your ex, so she wants to make you happy for the rest of your life  ;D  You can/must marry one of the characters of Eastwoods films, who do you choose? And the elf wants to know the reason for your choice (yes, happiness doesn't come free...)

Two characters come to mind... Lilly Raines from In the Line of Fire, and Beryl Thibodeaux from Tightrope.   If I could wake up every morning to Lilly, I'd die a happy man.  However, at this point in my life, I'd have to choose Beryl instead.  She just has such a calm and loving way about her, and I'm so tired of the drama and the fighting in my life.  I think she'd have a very soothing effect on me, and would really be the best partner for me out of all the women in Eastwood's films.
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Post by: Matt on June 18, 2003, 04:32:52 PM
Is there anyone out there who hasn't been tagged yet and  would like to join in the game?
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Post by: Conan on June 18, 2003, 05:02:09 PM
Conan: If you were going to pick an Eastwood related screen name for this site, what would it have been (would it have been from your favorite Eastwood movie...)?

  The only screen names I've ever used on webboards are "The Hairless Wookie" and "Conan" - I had to retire the former for obvious reasons.  So I chose Conan simply because I'm used to it and, well, a Conan fan.  And also because so many people have chosen Clint related handles on here that it would have been difficult to be original.
  Now if I had to choose a Clint related name I would have considered "Blondie".  In part because I've been called that before years ago as a nickname and because I'm such a huge fan of the Dollars trilogy.  I realize that we already have a "Blondie" on here :)  I guess "Angel Eyes" or "English Bob" would have been cool to.

Tags...


Misty: I know you have written about it before, but refresh my memory...Why is "Play Misty For Me" your favorite Eastwood movie?

Matt:  Clint is casting for "City Heat 2".  Thankfully Burt Reynolds is not being considered to play opposite Eastwood again.  Who would have the right chemistry with Clint to pull off that role?
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Post by: philo on June 18, 2003, 05:07:49 PM
From Matt :

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It would co-star my web board buds, who I'm sure would LOVE to be in an Eastwood film and meet the man.  BDC, Agent, Stranger, Philo... up to the job?


When do we start shooting ?    ;)



Philo .
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Post by: Brendan on June 18, 2003, 05:07:52 PM
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Brendan: What young actor (under thirty-five) do you think comes the closest to matching Clint in his acting style?
 
 
HUGH JACKMAN!!  ;D

No, seriously though, thats a hard one. I cant really answer that one. Theres no young actor of today that really captures the sublteness of Clints performances. Clint can just stand there and put an exspression on his face and you know whats going on by that. Theres really no young actor of today that can do that as good as he can.

I suppose if I had to choose it would be Liev Schreiber. The way he played John Clark in The Sum of All Fear was great. The scene he shared with Morgan Freeman in the rain was done very well by him and the way he did his facial exspressions was great.

I just realized that after watching a special on Stargate SG-1, that Richard Dean Anderson, to me anyway, kind of resembles Clint acting wise. I know I'll massive negative feedback from this, but if you watch Stargate SG-1 RDA is always giving great one liners and he delivers them with perfect timing. He also has great facial expressions and can get a point across with his face.

Its great to watch him in that show and I say he does a great job every week. Now his MacGyver performance is something else, but I'm talking only about his performance on SG-1.

Now you cant just watch one episode, you'd have to see enough of the show to understand his character and his performance. But its a great one that would "resemble" Clints acting "style" as best as I can think.
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Post by: Matt on June 18, 2003, 05:29:03 PM
TAGGING....

Joey:  If you could go back in time and were given a choice of working either in front of the camera, or behind it, in any Eastwood-directed film, which film would you choose, and which part would you like to play or which crew position would you wish you could have held?

KC:  I haven't tagged you yet in this game since I know you've been busy, but I'm running out of ideas to tag people with, and I know you'd be able to answer this one easily.  (It's a strange question, but like I said... I'm having trouble thinking up new ones.)  Name the New York  Yankee who you can most imagine replacing any character in any Eastwood film.  What part would he play?

I still owe a tag... I'll be back when I think up another.
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Post by: KC on June 18, 2003, 05:38:33 PM
KC:  I haven't tagged you yet in this game since I know you've been busy, but I'm running out of ideas to tag people with, and I know you'd be able to answer this one easily.  (It's a strange question, but like I said... I'm having trouble thinking up new ones.)  Name the New York  Yankee who you can most imagine replacing any character in any Eastwood film.  What part would he play?
How about Roger Clemens as Little Bill Daggett?  ;)

I'm way behind with tags ... I'll try to catch up later tonight!  :o
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Post by: Matt on June 18, 2003, 05:43:15 PM
How about Roger Clemens as Little Bill Daggett?  ;)


Ouch!  I can see it.  :o
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Post by: Joey on June 18, 2003, 06:03:55 PM
TAGGING....

Joey:  If you could go back in time and were given a choice of working either in front of the camera, or behind it, in any Eastwood-directed film, which film would you choose, and which part would you like to play or which crew position would you wish you could have held?
Great question, Matt. As much as I love Unforgiven, and that would be my more spontaneous response, I think I would have really enjoyed working on the 'Bridges' set.

I wouldn't mind which crew member I played, so long as I got to watch Eastwood and Streep do their thing as actors. It seemed like such an intimate arrangement, I would have just loved to see their process unfold as they entered these characters.

Also, the scenery is just gorgeous! It'd be interesting to see if there really is a smell to Iowa 'particular to this part of the country'! :)

Tags:

Matt- If you could have one prop from any Eastwood-directed film, what would it be?

KC- You have a really thorough knowledge of all things Clint. Is there anything about Eastwood, the person, that surprised or shocked you? Something that you didn't expect from the man we idolise on the big screen? I hope that makes sense.
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Post by: mgk on June 18, 2003, 06:20:19 PM
mgk: I bet you know what is coming here  ;). Since the elf was allowed to give a gift to Matt, the goblin wants to offer you something as well. So, you are put in the same situation as Matt, who do you choose? (and yes, you may choose an Eastwood persona, the goblin won't be too tough :D)

And, I'll bet you think I'm going to say Robert Kincaid, don't you? ;) Well, you would be right.  He is attentive, gentle, caring and has to be one of the best listeners in the world.  I know someone just like him so what's not to like?  :)

Doug: Which Eastwood film do you think is the most underrated?  And, why?

MC:  I know you like Jessica Walter from Play Misty For Me.  What other female co-star in an Eastwood film did you really like?
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Post by: misty71 on June 18, 2003, 06:28:35 PM
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Misty: I know you have written about it before, but refresh my memory...Why is "Play Misty For Me" your favorite Eastwood movie?

well actually, Ive never written about that because...Well its in my top 3 but Im not sure its my favorite....Dirty Harry has a special place too. Anyways Im gonna write about why I really like it;
 First off, I love music, and I loved seeind clint as a disc jockey.He has a wonderful speaking voice, and I think thats a job he could do in real life.
 I also like the idea of a pshychologic thriller starring clint, I think "Play misty for me" is one of a kind, its a film that doesnt resemble any other of his films, and I liked the story development, and the characters.
 Wonderful love scenes also, very beautiful photography and plus, it was in carmel, so we got a little taste of clints location.
 All in all, great movie.I chose the name misty, because, unlike ALL my other nicknames, its more like a girl name, so I wont get mistaken for a guy, like when I chat lol.
 Like my yahoo messenger id is Inspect0r71, and everyone thinks im a guy and theyre all serious with me like "oh, its the inspector" like im someone important  ;)
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Post by: misty71 on June 18, 2003, 06:34:36 PM
Anyways I only owe one tag, since I got tagged this mornong so here it goes;

MrPants: Ok you win an eastwood related contest, you have 2 choices for your price
1-spend an hour with clint
2-Get ALL his movies, plus ALL his posters,books,rawhide episodes,T-shirts-what have you, basically ALL clint things on the market

Which would you choose?
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Post by: Matt on June 18, 2003, 07:01:16 PM
I still owe a tag before I get to my next couple of questions to answer.  I'm gonna tag Joey again.  ;D

JOEY:  Since you're a big Unforgiven fan, what is your favorite quote from the film and what is your favorite scene?  Why is this scene your favorite?
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Post by: maddog_frenzy on June 18, 2003, 07:09:08 PM
Matt tagged me, therefore, I tag two others.

TAGGING:

LICA - If you could cast Clint in ANY movie (a real movie that's been done as opposed to a movie that doesn't yet exist) that is NOT a Clint flick, and as ANY character, which character would it be, and why? Take your time, your answer may have some fun implications and could stir debate...

BATARAD - What well-known persona, actor or otherwise, would you like to see cast in a movie with Clint, and why? If you're REALLY feeling frisky, name a genre (comedy, western, thriller, etc.) or title (even if it's a book that hasn't been movie-fied) of a movie they'd both be in, and what characters they'd play.
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Post by: Joey on June 18, 2003, 07:26:47 PM
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JOEY:  Since you're a big Unforgiven fan, what is your favorite quote from the film and what is your favorite scene?  Why is this scene your favorite?

The first time I saw Unforgiven, the final showdown at Greely's Bar was the most riveting experience I've ever felt watching a movie. This would have to be my favourite scene, I love the way it all plays out, like we are witnessing a myth. When Munny dispatches of all the men single-handedly, you question whether it is real or not, it just has this fantastic quality to it.

And so, my favourite quote in a film that is littered with great quotes is-
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" That's right ... I've killed women and children. Killed just about everything that walks or crawls at one time or another. And I'm here to kill you, Little Bill, for what you did to Ned."

It just forces the sheer visceral impact of the scene, it still gives me chills whenever I hear it.

I'm going to have to watch it again now, I think! ;D
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Post by: Matt on June 18, 2003, 07:45:49 PM

Matt- If you could have one prop from any Eastwood-directed film, what would it be?


Ouch!  For a minute there I was gonna say The Poncho, then noticed the "Eastwood-directed" part of the question.  That rules out a few things I'd love to have.  Harry's car would have been another top choice.

But in the Eastwood-directed films, although I have no use for guns, I'm gonna go with Josey's Navy Colt revolvers.  I'd frame them and hang them up.  That would be cool.  8)
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Post by: Matt on June 18, 2003, 07:50:57 PM
 
Matt:  Clint is casting for "City Heat 2".  Thankfully Burt Reynolds is not being considered to play opposite Eastwood again.  Who would have the right chemistry with Clint to pull off that role?

Eeek, a City Heat sequel.  :o

As for who to cast... ME!  I'd do it!!!  :D

Seriously, is it okay if I cop out and give the same answer here that I've given in other tags where I've been asked who I'd love to see Clint work with?  I can see Harrison Ford... they both have a knack for comedy, they both can play cops, they are close enough in age, and they look like they could be buddies in the real world, so I think that would come off on screen.

If anyone is getting tired of my Harrison Ford answers and wants to pipe in here with some other ideas for me, that would be cool.

I've got two more tags coming up...

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Post by: Brendan on June 18, 2003, 07:54:34 PM
If anyone is getting tired of my Harrison Ford answers and wants to pipe in here with some other ideas for me, that would be cool.

Oh Matt, you really wouldnt like who I have in mind...  ;D
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Post by: Matt on June 18, 2003, 08:04:11 PM
... on second thought...  ;) :-X
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Post by: Matt on June 18, 2003, 08:11:43 PM
TAGGING...

PHILO:  If there is one item that you've been wanting to add to your Eastwood collection more than any other, but haven't been able to find yet, what is it?

CHRISTOPHER:  I asked this of someone else earlier, so I'm recycling... which character would you most like to take out on a date from an Eastwood film?
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Post by: philo on June 18, 2003, 08:22:04 PM
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PHILO:  If there is one item that you've been wanting to add to your Eastwood collection more than any other, but haven't been able to find yet, what is it?

An item that should be out there but I have yet to find is a 35mm trailer for Bird. Once I find this it will complete my full collection of Eastwood trailers. There is a combo trailer that I don't have but in the case of teaser and full trailers Bird is all I need .


skippy

What is your favourite Eastwood poster image ?


Gant

What do you think of the shorter version of Firefox , do you think Estwood was happy to reduce its length?



Philo .
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Post by: Brendan on June 18, 2003, 08:22:23 PM
... on second thought...  ;) :-X

 ;D

Ah come on, you gotta admit, it would be so bad, it would be great.
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Post by: Matt on June 18, 2003, 08:31:32 PM
;D

Ah come on, you gotta admit, it would be so bad, it would be great.

Maybe.  But that would bring all the Schwarzenegger fans from all over the web to our site to want to talk about Arnold, and in turn would drive the 3 Mods nuts.  ;)
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Post by: Christopher on June 18, 2003, 08:33:10 PM
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CHRISTOPHER:  I asked this of someone else earlier, so I'm recycling... which character would you most like to take out on a date from an Eastwood film?
I would consider Carol from The Beguiled, but I'm sure if she didn't get what she wanted from me, she'd have it in for me.

Then, there's Becky Jacklin from Tightrope, which Matt put so delicately:
It's a damn shame there aren't more women around who can suck the sicle off a pop like Becky Jacklin.  (That sounds a lot worse than it should.  :o )
She's another possibility. :o

Being the respectable young man that I am, I can see that I need to come up with some more.......suitable young ladies. ;D

Hey, I know! Maybe Tobie from Play Misty for Me.
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Post by: Christopher on June 18, 2003, 08:44:19 PM
Matt: Looking at Clint's post-Bridges films, which has been your favorite?
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Post by: Matt on June 18, 2003, 09:05:47 PM
Matt: Looking at Clint's post-Bridges films, which has been your favorite?

Definitely True Crime.  Although it's a flawed film, it's got some outSTANDing performances, like Isaiah Washington as Frank Beachum, Lisa Gay Hamilton as Bonnie Beachum, Diane Venora as Everett's wife, and even though James Woods was over-the-top, those scenes are hysterical and I really enjoy them.  A laugh-out-loud scene:

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EVERETT: Damn it, Bob! Why don't you hit me in the f**king face, will you? I'll fall down, I'll bleed, I'll do all that. I deserve it. Then you can go home and hit your wife, 'cause she likes it.

MANN: (Laughs) Nice one, babe.

And I love the story!  The scene where Bonnie bangs on the glass of the observation window when we're not sure if Frank has lived or died is one of the most emotionally-charged scenes in all of Eastwood, at least it is for me.  I don't think the ending is a cop-out at all, because in that same scene, we're not sure if Frank died, and we feel the tragedy of that moment as much as if he had.  But then, we also get to feel the elation of realizing that Beachum survived and was reunited with his family.  

And I really enjoy Eastwood's performance too. Everett is another of my favorite Eastwood characters.  Another flawed hero, though more flawed than most.  Still, very likeable and fun to watch.

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Post by: Matt on June 18, 2003, 09:26:01 PM
I'm gonna tag Lilly since we haven't seen her in a few days.  Gotta make sure we keep her coming back here!  :)

LILLY:  Since you're a big In the Line of Fire fan, if you needed to come up with one thing about this film that could be changed to improve it, what would it be?  
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Post by: KC on June 19, 2003, 12:25:36 AM
I think I owe EIGHT tags now ... here goes.

Matt: I'll reverse the baseball question. You're managing the Yankees and you're trailing by a run in the bottom of the ninth. You have men on second and third and two out ... what character from an Eastwood film (doesn't have to be played by Clint) do you send in as a pinch hitter to get the win? (And you want a win ... Mo is tired.) And how does he get it?

Lilly: What male character in an Eastwood film can you imagine being played by a female, and who would you cast in the part?

bcm: I'm going to give you a tag inspired by one MC gave me ... Name one European-born actor (either gender) you'd like to see Clint work with. It can be as a co-star or in a film Eastwood is directing only. Where would the film be set—in the U.S. or in the actor's native country?

Brendan: What line in an Eastwood film makes you laugh the most? (It doesn't have to be spoken by Clint.)

AKA: I haven't tagged you in this game yet ... You've won a contest and get to attend a private screening of one of Clint's films WITH Clint ... just you and him. The catch is, it's Blood Work. Do you go? And if you do ... what do you say to him afterwards?

Misty71: You can have an exact copy of any wardrobe item from any Eastwood movie ... in your size. What would it be?

allycat: You must know a lot about Hitchcock by now. Imagine one scene in an Eastwood-directed film were being directed by Hitchcock (same actors and script). What would he do differently?

Stranger: (or any other collector who'd like to jump in here) ... You are told you can have one actual prop from any Clint film you like for your collection ... but not a weapon, or a vehicle. What do you select, and why?
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Post by: misty71 on June 19, 2003, 04:49:38 AM
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Misty71: You can have an exact copy of any wardrobe item from any Eastwood movie ... in your size. What would it be?

Ok-Eveerybody whos feeling blue today, be prepared to smile again.
 My answer is gonna seem weird.Im not gonna go for the poncho, Im not gonna go for the dirty harry suit, or the Josey Wales attire.
 First off, Im not anything close to a fashionable dresser, so be aware that the wardrobe item that Ill choose would be something that I would definately wear. ;) Im gonna have to go with two things, but since theyre both from the same movies, I guess it'll be alright.
Ok theyre both coats, and theyre both from the enforcer.
 I tried to find decent pictures of both, but its really hard.
(http://www.the-dirtiest.com/images/lawsdemo.jpg)

and the other one would be the one on matts avatar, this one;
(http://www.the-dirtiest.com/images/GoodbyeKate.jpg)

I know I know, I could have tried and find some better pics, but its hard when youre looking for a perticular item of clothing.
So those would be my 2 choices,yeah, id could see myself walking down the street with that.
 I once mentioned the first one to my mom, I said I liked it and wanted one like that, she laughed for like an hour, saying everyone had a jacket like that in the 70s, and I'd look silly with one.
 But then I guess all my clothes look silly ;)
Be back with tags
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Post by: misty71 on June 19, 2003, 05:04:04 AM
MATT: Youre in a video store, and they have this huge screen tv, and for some reason, theyre playing "Paint your wagon" on it.You stare for a couple of seconds, amused, and then someone taps on your shoulder. you turn around-it's clint!!!! He goes "Hi, do you like the movie?" What do you answer matt? Do you compliment him on it to flatter him, or do you tell him the movie sucked??? (Maybe you could tell him "the 3 reasons why pardner is god" thing)

XICHADO:If you could re-do one of the stunts that's in a clint movie which would it be and why?
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Post by: MC on June 19, 2003, 08:45:31 AM

MC:  I know you like Jessica Walter from Play Misty For Me.  What other female co-star in an Eastwood film did you really like?

Good question, as there are a lot of good ones to choose from. I'll have to go with a somewhat obvious choice, Meryl Streep in The Bridges of Maidson County. Although I've never been a huge Streep fan, I recently saw this film again and was blown away by her performance. Sure, she nailed the accent (as usual), but her performance cut much deeper than that. Highly impressive.

Rene Russo in In The Line of Fire also registered strongly, but not enough to top Streep...
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Post by: Brendan on June 19, 2003, 08:52:22 AM
Brendan: What line in an Eastwood film makes you laugh the most? (It doesn't have to be spoken by Clint.)

Too many KC, too many. I can't pick just one. That's too hard. Sorry.
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Post by: MC on June 19, 2003, 08:59:35 AM
Tagging...

Matt: Which of the following scenarios would be the least pleasing to you?
a) Clint Eastwood reveals that he'll star in his upcoming Neil Armstrong biopic ... and that it'll be a musical!
b) Warner Bros. announces that, in an effort to cash in on the lastest buddy cop craze (see Harrison Ford & Josh Hartnett) it has signed Charlie Sheen and Clint Eastwood to star in The Rookie 2!
c) In an exclusive interview, Michael Cimino admits once and for all that there IS a homosexual subtext in Thunderbolt and Lightfoot!
d) Variety leaks the news that Eastwood's yet-to-be-titled next project will not only costar Wanda DeJesus and Paul Rodriguez, but -- in a stunning turn of events -- will reunite Eastwood onscreen with his former girlfriend/costar/nemesis Sandra Locke!

mgk: How (and why) do you rank the three films Eastwood has directed but not appeared in (Breezy, Bird, and Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil)?
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Post by: mgk on June 19, 2003, 11:41:48 AM
Tagging...
mgk: How (and why) do you rank the three films Eastwood has directed but not appeared in (Breezy, Bird, and Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil)?

Breezy is a nice little love story, albeit a little unusual and definitely dated because Edith Alice Breezerman ('Breezy') is a "flower child" of the 1970s.  Bird is probably one of the best movies Eastwood has made and it is certainly gripping in its details of Charlie Parker's self-destructive lifestyle but, therefore, somewhat depressing.  Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil is so unique and so full of some of the most colorful characters in any Eastwood film, that I'm going to have to choose "Midnight" as the one I like the best.  One of the measuring sticks that I use when I choose favorites or make lists is whether I'm willing to watch it over and over and Lady Chablis is well worth watching repeatedly.  What a character!!  John Cusak's performance is good as well as Kevin Spacey's performance.

I would probably list Bird as second and put Breezy at third.

Christopher: You have been invited to have dinner with Eastwood and he has told you that you can bring one guest.  Who would you choose and why?

Philo:What five Eastwood films would you choose that would illustrate the scope of Eastwood's films?
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Post by: Mr. Pants on June 19, 2003, 12:00:00 PM
Originally posted by misty71:
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MrPants: Ok you win an eastwood related contest, you have 2 choices for your price
1-spend an hour with clint
2-Get ALL his movies, plus ALL his posters,books,rawhide episodes,T-shirts-what have you, basically ALL clint things on the market

Which would you choose?

I would take the hour with the man. I have a lot of questions for him and anyone with money and time can purchase stuff. Not everyone can say then had a sit down chat with Eastwood!  ;D

Tags:

Doug - Of all the guns he uses in his films, which does he look most natural or most comfortable using?

KC - If Eastwood were a religous man (I am not sure if he is) what faith do you think he would profess?
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Post by: Mr. Pants on June 19, 2003, 12:21:34 PM
Originally posted by eustressor:
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Mr. Pants - Congratulations! Hitchhiking back and forth, in and around Carmel for the last six years straight has finally paid off for you - you get picked up by The Man himself. During your all-too brief ride through Carmel, he confides in you, "You know, the only movie I really regret making is __________". What movie do you think he'd say, if he had to name one? Do you agree that it's his most regrettable film, and if so, would you say so?
Eastwood speaking:
"You know, the only movie I really regret making is Paint Your Wagon".

I would tend to agree with him on this. While all his movies are superb, only this movie falls short of the usual unmatched quality. A good cast and humorous script are the only things that kept this movie from being a total disaster. He was big enough at the time that there was no need make this film. The only reason I can think of would be the chance to star next to Lee Marvin and venture out with his musical career.

Tags:

Philo - Whats your favorite fist fighting sequence out of all Eastwood's movies?

XICHADO - Your roomate's name is John and he hates Eastwood and thinks he sucks as an actor. You cannot convince him in any way that he is original and has any talent. John has only seen part of the Gauntlet and has based his entire opinion on that movie. One night he gives in and agrees to watching an Eastwood movie of your choosing. Which movie do you pick to watch and why?
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Post by: bcm on June 19, 2003, 01:25:39 PM
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bcm: How did you become an Eastwood fan?

I'm sorry, but this will need a little time to explain. So, those not interested, please go on  :)
As KC, I don't watch TV, in fact I don't even have one. When I was younger my former boy-friend and I would go to the cinema very often. (We actually saw Unforgiven in the theater, and we liked it a lot. Westerns are not part of my cultural background, so it wasn't this movie that made me become interested in Eastwood).  But, such is life, my husband doesn't like going to the movies. And so, for several years, due to kids, work, etc. I have missed a LOT of films (which bothered me). Last fall we purchased a computer with DVD, then I discovered an internet DVD rental, and started watching all these movies I had missed on the computer screen. I didn't know what I was doing when I rented Bridges of Madison County. I only knew that my friends had liked it, which was unusual for a lovestory coming from Hollywood ;). That movie went right into my heart. I know everything Francesca was talking about, and I also know that such an intense lovestory cannot last... It was the first movie in my life that I wanted to watch over and over again, so I purchased my first DVD (december 2002 ;D). And I went on internet to find out more about a man who would tell a story like that... And now I'm here, having a great time with all of you!!

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bcm: I'm going to give you a tag inspired by one MC gave me ... Name one European-born actor (either gender) you'd like to see Clint work with. It can be as a co-star or in a film Eastwood is directing only. Where would the film be set—in the U.S. or in the actor's native country?
If I wanted to make Matt jump, I could name Arnold Schwarzeneegger  ;D  ;D But I wont, sorry Brendan.
Back in my childhood, when I did watch TV sometimes, we loved Jean-Paul Belmondo, called Bebel over here. He was, I think, the most beloved french "action hero", not hesitating to make fun of himself. He was also known for performing all his stunts himself (do I know that from someone else...) Since Eastwood and Belmondo have some similarities, I'd like to see them together, as a co-star. But the movie would, of course  ;), be set in France.
(http://img.yupimsn.com/canales/entretenimiento/temas/cumpleanos/jean-paul-belmondo.jpg)
This is Jean-Paul Belmondo
(http://frenchfilms.topcities.com/1981_Le_Professionnel.jpg)
Does this filmposter look somewhat familiar  :)

Gant:What was it, about Firefox, that made you choose your name and avatar?
Brendan:name 5 qualities  Eastwood has, that Schwarzenegger doesn't have  ;)
Clyde:If you could choose any item in any Eastwood movie to own, which would it be? And why?
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Post by: Christopher on June 19, 2003, 01:35:46 PM
From MGK:
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Christopher: You have been invited to have dinner with Eastwood and he has told you that you can bring one guest.  Who would you choose and why?
I didn't have to think too hard on this one. The only logical choice for me would be to bring my dad along. My dad watched Rawhide as a kid. I don't know when he became a big fan of Eastwood's, but he's always liked westerns pretty well. When I was little, I can remember my dad watching Eastwood movies on TV (I remember watching Sudden Impact on TV as a family. Talk about odd, huh? I was about five).
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Post by: Brendan on June 19, 2003, 01:42:58 PM
Brendan:name 5 qualities  Eastwood has, that Schwarzenegger doesn't have  ;)

How do you mean? In movies wise or outside of movies wise? Becuase Arnold is good man outside of his movies. He's also a very smart, and highly educated man. He's also a good business man. He also cares not only about the good upbringing of his children, but other less fortunate kids as well.

He also setups programs for mentally handicapped athletes, and he also helped create the Arnold Classic which is a competition to give body builders recognition they wouldnt get any where else.

He's a great man, but unfortuantly most people are jaded and just see him as Arnold the guy with big muscles who cant speak english properly.

If you mean movies wise, then Clint is definitely a better actor, theres no contest there. Clint also has the ability to direct good pictures, while Arnold doesnt care too, although has directed before.

I suppose someone else could answer this question better than I can, but I cant really see any qualities they both dont share. I'm not trying to compare the two and say one is better than the other, by all means I beleive Clint is better at the movie aspect, but I have no comment on the outside of the movies issue. They both do good things, that help other people and they both stand up for what they believe in.

Sorry I couldnt answer the question any better.  :-\


Sorry no new tags from me. I'll just re-post some unanswered ones:

Cal - What movie made in the 1990's do you think Clint would have been great for? (In a starring or supporting role)

bdc28: If Clint was approached to played Gil Grissom on CSI, and he accepted, do you think he would be as good as William Peterson?

Lilly: If Clint only has ONE more acting movie left in him, what do you want the type of film to be?

Daisy: If Clint had played any character in any of the Star Trek series or movies, whether it be a guest starring or starring role, which character do you think he could play?
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Post by: Christopher on June 19, 2003, 02:09:53 PM
Tagging

The Stranger: I'm sure you've probably given this answer before at some time or another: What's your favorite piece of music in an Eastwood film?

AKA: We know that Eastwood is interested in making a movie about Neil Armstrong. Is there another person you'd like to see Eastwood making a movie about?
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Post by: Matt on June 19, 2003, 03:36:02 PM

Matt: I'll reverse the baseball question. You're managing the Yankees and you're trailing by a run in the bottom of the ninth. You have men on second and third and two out ... what character from an Eastwood film (doesn't have to be played by Clint) do you send in as a pinch hitter to get the win? (And you want a win ... Mo is tired.) And how does he get it?

After quite a bit of deliberation, I settled on Harry Callahan!  First reason... you can always rely on Harry to get the job done.  He never lets you down.  Second reason... he's used to the pressure.  This situation wouldn't even phase him.  :)

This is how he'd do it... he'd wait for a fastball down the middle, aim and fire...  a comebacker right at the pitcher! :o  The pitcher would go down, and there would be just enough confusion and hysteria for the infielders to forget about the baserunners.  The man on third scores, and as Harry ambles down the first base line, the man on second crosses the plate.  All safe!  The YANKEES WIN.  THUUUUU YANKEES WIN!!!

In the postgame interview, Harry says "That's why they call me Dirty Harry.  Every dirty job that comes along."  ;D
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Post by: Matt on June 19, 2003, 03:54:12 PM
MATT: Youre in a video store, and they have this huge screen tv, and for some reason, theyre playing "Paint your wagon" on it.You stare for a couple of seconds, amused, and then someone taps on your shoulder. you turn around-it's clint!!!! He goes "Hi, do you like the movie?" What do you answer matt? Do you compliment him on it to flatter him, or do you tell him the movie sucked??? (Maybe you could tell him "the 3 reasons why pardner is god" thing)

Misty, you're giving me too much credit.  I doubt I'd be able to put two words together in that situation.  

Believe me when I say that if I had an opportunity to talk to Clint, the last thing that would come out of my mouth would be a criticism of anything he's done.  Especially since I'd be a blubbering idiot at the time... what a joke that would be.

If somehow I could speak in this situation, I'd probably say "You've done better, Clint."

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Post by: Matt on June 19, 2003, 04:17:26 PM
Tagging...

Matt: Which of the following scenarios would be the least pleasing to you?
a) Clint Eastwood reveals that he'll star in his upcoming Neil Armstrong biopic ... and that it'll be a musical!
b) Warner Bros. announces that, in an effort to cash in on the lastest buddy cop craze (see Harrison Ford & Josh Hartnett) it has signed Charlie Sheen and Clint Eastwood to star in The Rookie 2!
c) In an exclusive interview, Michael Cimino admits once and for all that there IS a homosexual subtext in Thunderbolt and Lightfoot!
d) Variety leaks the news that Eastwood's yet-to-be-titled next project will not only costar Wanda DeJesus and Paul Rodriguez, but -- in a stunning turn of events -- will reunite Eastwood onscreen with his former girlfriend/costar/nemesis Sandra Locke!

"C" isn't actually a bad thing at all.  I'd LOVE to hear Cimino discuss Thunderbolt and Lightfoot, and if he said there was homosexual subtext, then I'd expect that he'd give some details to that and discuss it.  Which would have to disqualify once and for all most of the outlandish examples that were cited in the "T&L" thread.  

So that leaves me with three choices.  Of these, "B" is the least horrible.  Maybe the Rookie sequel would be better than the first.  I doubt the casting could be worse this time around.  

As for "D"...  Sondra Locke's performances in Eastwood films were always fine to good, but if he chose to work with her again, I'd really have to wonder if Clint had lost his mind.  De Jesus and Rodriquez too?  Ouch... :-[

But the least pleasing of these scenarios would be to see a biopic of Neil Armstrong made as a musical, and for Clint to be involved in it.  I can see it now... Neil takes a step onto the moon and the crew breaks into song and dance! "One small step for man.... bop a bop bop... one giant leap for mankind.... doo wop a bop!" (http://users.pandora.be/eforum/emoticons4u/obscene/eck17.gif)

Interesting question, MC. ;)

Tags coming up!
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Post by: eustressor on June 19, 2003, 04:17:46 PM
If somehow I could speak in this situation, I'd probably say "You've done better, Clint."

Actually, I bet he'd get a big kick out of the "Three Reasons Pardner Is God" ;)
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Post by: KC on June 19, 2003, 04:22:42 PM
Too many KC, too many. I can't pick just one. That's too hard. Sorry.
All rightie then ... give me your Top Ten! ;)
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Post by: Brendan on June 19, 2003, 04:25:24 PM
All rightie then ... give me your Top Ten! ;)

That'll take awhile, as I cant remember them.  ;D I always remember them just as he's about to say them, but I'll try.
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Post by: Brendan on June 19, 2003, 04:51:24 PM
Here you go KC: (special thanks to Matt for his Quotes Webpage)

1. A Fistful of Dollars - JOE: No. See, I understand you men were just playin' around. But the mule, he just doesn't get it. Of course, if you were to all apologize.

2. GBU - BLONDIE: (Takes the note) "Idiots". (Hands the note back to Tuco) It's for you.

3. Dirty Harry - HARRY: Well for the past three quarters of an hour I've been sitting on my ass in your outer office waiting on you.

4. Magnum Force - CALLAHAN: Tell you something. If the rest of you could shoot like them, I wouldn't care if the whole damn department was queer.

5. The Gauntlet - SHOCKLEY: Nag, nag, nag!

6. Sudden Impact - CALLAHAN: Listen, punk... to me you ain't nothing but dog sh*t, you understand? And a lot of things can happen to dog sh*t. It can be scraped up with a shovel off the ground, it can dry up and blow away in the wind, or it can be stepped on and squashed. So take my advice and be careful where the dog sh*ts ya.

7. Heartbreak Ridge - GUNNY: The Marines are looking for a few good men. Unfortunately, you ain't it.

8. Pink Cadillac - NOWAK: (Wearing the gold jacket) Too much raw dude for ya, huh babe? Well I can dig it. If my life were a movie, there'd be a sign on it saying "Caution, some scenes too intense for younger viewers."

9. Unforgiven - MUNNY: Whoa! Whoa, God damn! You no good pig f*cking whore! Whoa! (finally gets on the horse) Sorry old horse!

10. Space Cowboys - FRANK: Let's see, I had vegetarian huevos rancheros, egg whites only, of course. Then some sort of a filtered decaf cappuccino that tasted like it was filtered through a jock strap.

And these ones from Oddball and Lilly always get me:

ODDBALL: Why don't you knock it off with the negative waves Why don't you dig how beautiful it is out here. Why don't you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?

LILLY RAINES: Hmm, and the field agents get older and older.
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Post by: Matt on June 19, 2003, 05:08:10 PM
Tagging....

CONAN:  Which character from an Eastwood film would you say is most like you?  What traits do you have in common?  (It doesn't have to be an Eastwood character)

BAGGIEB:  We haven't seen much of you since the board move.  I hope you're still checking in on us from time to time, and hope you can join in more again soon.  For your question...  You are in an elevator, it stops on the third floor and Sondra Locke steps in and presses the button.  The next stop is over 20 floors away and you're the only two in the elevator.  What kind of conversation, if any, can you imagine you'd strike up?

BCM:   Image Clint is in your town and you ran into him in a drugstore... buying something for an upset stomach.  He looks horrible, and you strike up conversation and find out that eating out in restaurants hasn't agreed with him, and he'd give anything for a home-cooked meal.  Jumping at the chance, you invite him to your home.  You want to make him something that will not only make him feel good and healthy again, but you want to dazzle him and make a meal for him he'll never forget.  What's on the menu?

NATURAL BORN COWGIRL (NBC):  Has BDC made you a big Eastwood fan yet?  Which Eastwood film did you enjoy the most?  Which the least?
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Post by: jjgonski on June 19, 2003, 05:34:03 PM
Matt,

As tough of a question as it may be...I would improve the GBU in the following ways.  First off, I would restore all the spanish language to the film (I know already done on TV, but not for us to enjoy on DVD yet).  I would also have expanded on the Lee Van Cleef story of "Angel Eyes".  What motivates him?  There is a pretty clear motivation for Clint's and Tuco's characters and that would solidify the story for me.
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Post by: Matt on June 19, 2003, 05:38:29 PM
. . .   I would also have expanded on the Lee Van Cleef story of "Angel Eyes".  What motivates him?  There is a pretty clear motivation for Clint's and Tuco's characters and that would solidify the story for me.

My sentiments exactly!  When watching The Restored GBU on AMC, I was glad to have a few extra Angel Eyes scenes, but even then, he still got the short end of the stick between the three characters.  Some expansion of his character and story would have only helped the film.  

Thanks for answering the question, jjgonski, and I hope you'll tag two members to keep things moving.  :)
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Post by: jjgonski on June 19, 2003, 05:48:30 PM
Tagging....

Matt:  If you could go back in time and be in any Clint movie in his career, which would you choose, which character would you play and why?

Cal: What is your motivation for keeping this awesome web board going strong?
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Post by: philo on June 19, 2003, 06:13:15 PM
From MGK :

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Philo:What five Eastwood films would you choose that would illustrate the scope of Eastwood's films?

1) A fistful of dollars (a good place to start)
2) The Beguiled (a brave move)
3) Dirty Harry (has to be here)
4) The outlaw Josey Wales (behind the camera)
5) Every which way but loose (totally different direction)


I could have done with 10 , however these are good films from a time when he still had things to prove.


Philo .
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Post by: philo on June 19, 2003, 06:19:27 PM
From Mr pants :

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Philo - Whats your favorite fist fighting sequence out of all Eastwood's movies?


I think the pool room fight in Coogan's bluff takes some "beating"



Philo .
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Post by: Matt on June 19, 2003, 06:20:31 PM
Tagging....

Matt:  If you could go back in time and be in any Clint movie in his career, which would you choose, which character would you play and why?

I was lucky to be asked this question in the last "Tag" game, and I answered that the character I'd most like to play would be el Indio from For a Few Dollars More.  I just think that the part is so cool.  He's gotta be my favorite villain, and I'd love to have that pocket watch and be that cold and evil... and to be killed in a showdown with Van Cleef as Eastwood waits in the wings... how awesome would that be?  ;D

I'll give my second choice here too. I think one of the best co-starring parts in any Eastwood film is the character of Peter Verrill in White Hunter, Black Heart.  I'd have some great scenes, like the scene with Margaret MacGregor ("Madam, I have dined with some of the ugliest god damn b!tches in my time. And I have dined with some of the god damnest ugly b!tches in this world. But, you, my dear, are the ugliest b!tch of them all.") And the crazy flight ("Pete, I'm gonna take myself a nap. Please don't wake me unless you're sure we're gonna crash cause ... I wouldn't want to miss something like that.")  And as Verrill, I'd get to deliver some great lines of my own.  Like this one:

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You're either crazy, or the most egocentric, irresponsible son-of-a-b!tch that I have ever met. You're about to blow this whole picture out of your nose, John. And for what? To commit a crime. To kill one of the rarest, most noble creatures that roams the face of this crummy earth. And in order to commit this crime, you're willing to forget about all of us and let this whole god damn thing go down the drain.

I think it's a great part in an outstanding film, and I'd be on an Eastwood-directed set, in a lot of scenes with "the Man".  That's the stuff dreams are made of. :)
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Post by: philo on June 19, 2003, 06:27:56 PM
Tagging :

The stranger (I will be seeing him tomorrow and my mission is to get him on here to answer his tags)  :P


Which never released Eastwood soundtrack do you most want in your collection ?


KC

You are in charge of the web board's Eastwood festival that was talked about some time back. What is on the agenda for us and who connected to Eastwood would you try to book for guest spots ?



Philo .

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Post by: Matt on June 19, 2003, 06:33:31 PM
TAGGING:  

Misty:  I don't think I've tagged you yet this game, so here's one for you.  

You're one of our youngest members, what do your family and friends think of how much you like Clint Eastwood?  Do any of them share your enthusiasm?  Do any think you're nuts? ;)  If you wanted to try to get a friend hooked on Eastwood, name the one film that you think has the best shot of winning him/her over.
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Post by: misty71 on June 19, 2003, 06:45:50 PM
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You're one of our youngest members, what do your family and friends think of how much you like Clint Eastwood?  Do any of them share your enthusiasm?  Do any think you're nuts?   If you wanted to try to get a friend hooked on Eastwood, name the one film that you think has the best shot of winning him/her over.

Thanks for the tag! My mother thinks Clint is alright, and she doesnt mind watching all his films over and over with me  ;D(Im not a person who likes to watch tv alone, like if a scene makes me laugh, I feel somewhat silly laughing all alone) and all my family is aware that if they see anything eastwood related, they must call me imediatly, wheter it's a movie on tv, or a book on sale, whatever, theyre always checking!My uncle Melvin was a Huge clint fan back in the 70s, he tells me he has a lot of his movies.My mom thinks Ive wasted a lot of money on him, but shes used to me spending on things like that, and she thinks its great that I already have a big collection. :D
 My cousin, whos younger (well older than me, but younger than the rest of my family) thinks its silly,but she doesnt mind it. I have begged her 1000 times to watch the enforcer with me, and finally she said yes. at the beginning, she was doing crosswords/not paying attention, but in the end, when someone called her up on the phone she said "can you call back later?Im actually watching a movie I enjoy, for once!" :P and recently, she watched thunderbolt and lightfoot with me.
 So everyone thinks its great, they were all clint fans 30 or so years ago.
 As for my friends, they think its funny, but theyre ok with it (and they know they better not say bad things about The Man >:()Most of 'em dont even know who he is.
 A friend hooked on Eastwood? Well, it worked with the enforcer, but if I had to re-do it now, with the movies that I own now, I'd probably go with Dirty Harry, since it was the one that got me hooked.

tags coming up in a while
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Post by: misty71 on June 19, 2003, 06:51:28 PM
JIGONSKI:Is there a scene in an Eastwood film that gets you laughing every time you watch it, no matter how often you see it?

KC:Youre approached from a big clothing company.They want you to design a clint eastwood t-shirt, with a picture of him and a quote, both have to be from the same movie.What design would you do and why?
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Post by: Doug on June 19, 2003, 07:33:15 PM

Doug: Which Eastwood film do you think is the most underrated?  And, why?

A tough one, because I can think of a few.  Sticking with Eastwood directed movies, it's a toss up between  A Perfect World, Bridges of Madison County,  White Hunter, Black Heart, or Bronco Billy.  

Even though I haven't seen it a while, I'd have to say White Hunter, Black Heart.  Bridges grossed a lot and got a lot of good reviews, but I think a lot of people couldn't get past the awful book it was based on and give it more praise.  A Perfect World should have been an Oscar contender, but seemed mostly overlooked.  However, it did at least get some good recognition because of it following so closely to Unforgiven.   But White Huner, Black Heart was pre-Unforgiven and was probably the most overlooked of his "art" movies.  At least I think so.  
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Post by: Doug on June 19, 2003, 07:48:58 PM
[Doug - Of all the guns he uses in his films, which does he look most natural or most comfortable using?


Hmm, there's no gun he doesn't look natural using.  However, to pick one I'd have to go with:
(http://www.sci.fi/~ivanoff/starwave.jpg)

C'mon, no gun has been as closely associated with an actor as the .44 magnum with Clint.  It's an awesome thing when he pulls out the .44 from his holster.
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Post by: Doug on June 19, 2003, 08:01:22 PM
tags:

Christopher: You're about ready to direct your first movie, and you happen to bump into Clint, and he tells you good luck with your movie, need any advice?  What would be the one question you'd want to ask him about directing?


Daisy: What's your favorite opening sequence to a Clint film?

AKA: Which Clint movie do you think has the most positive message?

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Post by: AKA23 on June 19, 2003, 10:34:46 PM

AKA: I haven't tagged you in this game yet ... You've won a contest and get to attend a private screening of one of Clint's films WITH Clint ... just you and him. The catch is, it's Blood Work. Do you go? And if you do ... what do you say to him afterwards?

Well, OF course I go! I'd have to have even less sanity than I do now to refuse such an opportunity! I think it may have been you, but somebody asked me in the last tag game if Clint asked me what I thought of  Blood Work what I'd say, whether I'd tell the truth, whether I'd blast the movie, etc..this seems to be a similar type question along those lines. Honestly, of course, I'd go, and afterwards, if he asked me what I thought I'd just very diplomatically tell him that it wasn't one of my favorites, that I thought he'd done much better films, and probably just leave it at that. Anything more would be disrespectful. So, yes, I'd go, and if he asked me about it , I'd just say the truth, but not as emphatically as I have in review commentary on the board, because that wouldn't be aproppriate. If he wanted further detail, and was interested in hearing why I thought that, I'd go into some more detail and discussion over why, but still try to do it in a genuine and nice way.

I do have to say that the whole experience might in fact make such an impression upon me that I might even look more favorably on the film, connecting it with the amazing experience of being with Clint, watching it with him, discussing things afterward. The film itself would still be of poor quality, but I have a feeling that the brain has a way of connecting experiences that we have, independent of the actual subject of that experience. Whether or not the film was good or not would fade into the background, and most probably when evaluating the film, I'd connect it with the experience that I had in relation to it, and would therefore have a somewhat different recollection.

Does that answer your question, or were you looking forward what I'd say to Clint if I had the opportunity type answer, not related to that film, etc...
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Post by: AKA23 on June 19, 2003, 10:38:15 PM
AKA: We know that Eastwood is interested in making a movie about Neil Armstrong. Is there another person you'd like to see Eastwood making a movie about?

Not really. I'll reserve judgement on this particular film until if and when it is released and I see it, but on the whole, I wasn't too impressed with the idea. With Bird , at least Eastwood had a strong connection to the material, a love of jazz, a deep admiration for the subject. I think by and large Eastwood should be doing different types of films that he is better suited for and leave biographical pictures for somebody else to do.
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Post by: AKA23 on June 19, 2003, 10:45:04 PM
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AKA: Which Clint movie do you think has the most positive message?

I don't see TOO many films in Eastwood's filmography that have this overwhelmingly positive message in them, and this might seem like the easiest answer to give, but it seems to me as if Bronco Billy has the most positive message. It's one of the few Eastwood films where there even is a message. I think you'd be hard pressed to find any kind of clear message or directive in most of Eastwood's work. For the most part, I think Clint Eastwood is interested in telling a story, not imparting any deep philosophical or social message.

In Bronco Billy , however, I see a very positive message. Work hard at what you do, seize the opportunities available to you, and you can do what you want to do and be the kind of person that you want to be. Anybody can succeed, according to Bronco Billy. Anyone can have a happy and fulfilling life, just as long as they know what they want, and they take steps to grab it or realize it. Nothing is out of reach. Everything is possible. That's the message of Bronco Billy , and I think any film with that kind of message has to be the most positive one of ANYONE's filmography, let alone Eastwood's.
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Post by: KC on June 19, 2003, 11:19:25 PM
KC - If Eastwood were a religous man (I am not sure if he is) what faith do you think he would profess?
Sorry, the faith of others is not something I would presume to speculate on. All I can tell you is that on p. 36 of Schickel's authorized biography, it is implied that Eastwood is more inclined to something Schickel calls "Pacific Rim trancendentalism" (finding spiritual renewal in the majesty of nature, such as it presents itself in Yosemite National Park) than to organized, formal religion.

KC
You are in charge of the web board's Eastwood festival that was talked about some time back. What is on the agenda for us and who connected to Eastwood would you try to book for guest spots ?

Philo .

I'm not good at organizing such things ... As for events, I think I'd prefer to delegate my responsibility to the great folks on the Web Board, and see what they could come up with. Perhaps we could have panel discussions on special topics (for instance, D'Amb and Concorde on "Eastwood's Weapons").

If I'm picking the films, though, you know they would include Unforgiven.

As to whom to invite ... Holden Pike and I had such a great time talking to Joel Cox in Baltimore two years ago ... I'd love for him to address the group and share with us all what it's been like to be one of Eastwood's closest collaborators over the past quarter-century.

KC:Youre approached from a big clothing company.They want you to design a clint eastwood t-shirt, with a picture of him and a quote, both have to be from the same movie.What design would you do and why?
Hmm, I don't really like walking around in T-shirts with pictures of people on them ... even Clint. I think I'd prefer just a quote, or perhaps a quote and something suggesting one of the films. Maybe that "It's a sin to kill an elephant" speech from White Hunter, Black Heart, and in the background, the final shot from the film, elephants in the distance against the African skyline. And somehere, in small type, the film title ...

Hope that answers everyone's questions satisfactorily ... tags coming.
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Post by: KC on June 20, 2003, 12:47:57 AM
I finally thought of four tags ... sorry to keep tagging the same people, but it's late and I like these guys' answers, so far! ;)

Doug: What's your favorite "angry moment" in an Eastwood film?

eustressor: If Kevin Costner hadn't been available to portray Butch in A Perfect World, who would you like to have seen in the part?

mgk: What's the landscape you feel is used most effectively as a story element in an Eastwood film?

raimius: What do you think is the best jazz composition in an Eastwood film (whether or not it was composed for the film)?
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Post by: DirtyDuffy45 on June 20, 2003, 07:24:00 AM
DirtyDuffy45:  You are walking through a meadow and notice a leprechaun who has lost his way.  He asks you for directions, and when you give them to him, he rewards you with a strange gift.  Like it or not, you are about to become one of the Clint Eastwood characters, and live his life... (even if it means going back to live in a different era, if need be) FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE.  The leprechaun asks you which character you choose to become.  Which would it be?  And would you like this strange gift, or would you prefer it if you had never run into that leprechaun in the first place?  

gotta go with The Man With No Name just cause I would love to be out west in the olden days and well of course hes the man no one would screw with you.  Gotta love the intimidation factor from his character.
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Post by: Aline on June 20, 2003, 08:13:05 AM
Tagging....

ALINE:  What is your favorite cast from an Eastwood film, and why?

Sorry the delay  ;D

I've to choose two.
From 70's films,Dirty Harry.All the cast,specially Andy Robinson.

From 90's films,White Hunter Black Heart.I like George Dzundza and Alun Armstrong.
And the why is they are absolutely perfect in their characteres.I can't imagine nobody replacing them.
Paul Landers and Ralph Lockart are very funny and annoying.I like seeing the way John Wilson's speech get them stunned.

Tag to:

Xichado- What you favorite scene in Blood Work?Why?

Doug-What actor and actress you never would like to see working with Clint?


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Post by: Christopher on June 20, 2003, 09:15:59 AM
Christopher: You're about ready to direct your first movie, and you happen to bump into Clint, and he tells you good luck with your movie, need any advice?  What would be the one question you'd want to ask him about directing?
I've heard Eastwood talk about being calm on the set, and how that it needs to start with the director, then it can move on to the rest of the crew, so I'd probably ask him how he's able to stay calm and keep a relaxed set. He's obviously been doing something good, considering how people talk about what it's been like to work with him.
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Post by: Christopher on June 20, 2003, 09:22:02 AM
tagging:

Brendan: If you could erase one film off of Eastwood's filmography, which one would it be?

Matt: If you could have been a crew member on one of Eastwood's movies, which movie would you choose, and what position would you want to have?
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Post by: Brendan on June 20, 2003, 09:30:38 AM
Brendan: If you could erase one film off of Eastwood's filmography, which one would it be?

Pink Cadillac or The Rookie. Its hard to choose between those to.


Christopher - If you could erase one film off of Eastwood's filmography, which one would it be?

Doug - If you could erase one film off of Eastwood's filmography, which one would it be?
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Post by: Doug on June 20, 2003, 09:47:50 AM
IDoug: What's your favorite "angry moment" in an Eastwood film?

I think I'll have to go with the original Dirty Harry when he hunts down Scorpio and steps on his leg to get him to reveal where the girl is.  That's pretty intense, and its such a classic scene.  
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Post by: eustressor on June 20, 2003, 09:51:19 AM
If Kevin Costner hadn't been available to portray Butch in A Perfect World, who would you like to have seen in the part?

Thanks for the tag, KC :)

Short answer: No one - cancel the production, gather up the family, and take a vacation trip to Antartica to look at the penguins.

OK, if the show had to go on minus Costner's Oscar-worthy performance, after some consideration, I'm going to reach a little and suggest Robin Williams. No, I don't see Butch tooling around in red suspenders and a rainbow sweater, but I think Williams has displayed an enormous range of acting talent, and sometimes overlooked excellence, over the years. Try as I might, I can't recall ever seeing him play a "tough guy", but I'm certain he could do it. I can easily picture him playing Butch much the way Costner did, although I'm sure there would be a few improvs here and there. Perhaps Williams would play a bit more with the fact that Butch is a very clever fellow, and isn't above having a bit of fun at the expense of those less intelligent. The bond with Phillip might easily have taken on a bit more playful tone as well - generally, the "isn't this fun?" factor already present in Costner's overall performance would perhaps be kicked up one safe notch or two.

If you're having trouble picturing this, consider that fateful moment when Butch turns off Mack's radio and the film slams to a halt as Butch's demons prepare to surface. If everything leading up to this moment has been a just a bit more playful, how much more impact then, when Butch unravels and begins to terrorize Mack's family? How much more gutwrenching when Phillip has to decide whether or not to shoot Butch? How much more tragic, when, just as it seems Butch might survive, he is gunned down by the FBI?

I think Robin Williams could have performed in this movie just as well, if slightly differently, than Kevin Costner did. What little might be lost by the fact Williams' isn't typically regarded as a "hunk" would likely be regained by a climax with even more impact.

Or maybe I'd pick Yahoo Serious... :D Tags forthcoming -
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Post by: mgk on June 20, 2003, 09:58:46 AM
 
mgk: What's the landscape you feel is used most effectively as a story element in an Eastwood film?

A lot of the landscapes in Eastwood's movies are beautiful but I don't think that quite qualifies as being an "effective story element."  The first movie that came to mind was The Eiger Sanction and, after thinking about it for a while, I don't think there is another Eastwood movie where the landscape is used as such an essential part of the story as this one is.  The story, of course, is built around Hemlock (Eastwood) carrying out his "last" sanction but his target plans a climb to the top of the North Face of Eiger Mountain in Switzerland.  The North Face is 6,000 vertical feet of snow and ice and has claimed the lives of many.  The plot and the tension are carried out under extreme circumstances and the first enemy all of the men have to conquer in order to survive is the mountain itself.  The cinematography beautifully captures every grueling moment spent trying to reach the top.  Without this particular landscape in this particular film, you lose a lot of the story itself.


MC: My answer to your tag last time was Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil.  What did you think of this film?  How would you rate it among Eastwood directed films whether he is in them or not?

Philo: Which film do you think that Eastwood appeared to have the most fun makiing?
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Post by: Doug on June 20, 2003, 09:59:23 AM

Tag to:

Doug-What actor and actress you never would like to see working with Clint?

Oh, boy, you want someone to get mad at me with my answer!  ;D  I'd have to say Nicholas Cage.  I can't stand him, can't stand the way he overacts in nearly all his movies.  Although I liked him in The Rock(and I haven't seen his last three movies), so maybe if he were with Clint, he'd be a little more calm, but ...  I wouldn't want to take the risk.  It'd be too likely that he would totally ruin the movie for me.  Nobody get mad at me.  I could have said Vin Diesel, but frankly I've avoided all his movies, so I can't say he irritates me or anything.
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Post by: Doug on June 20, 2003, 10:03:32 AM


Doug - If you could erase one film off of Eastwood's filmography, which one would it be?

I think the world could survive without The Rookie.  If he hadn't directed it, I'd leave it be, but it's embarrassing that he sunk so low with it.  Paint Your Wagon I'd leave just because I think he learned a valuable lesson with that one. :)
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Post by: Doug on June 20, 2003, 10:27:53 AM
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mgk: What's the most touching moment in a Dirty Harry film?

Brendan: What's the most outrageously funny moment in a Clint film?  

Matt: I haven't tagged you this game.  Your leprechaun comes to you in a bad mood, and states that Clint hasn't died enough times in his movies, and he's going to magically fix that so that he does die at the end of another movie.  However, he demands that you choose which movie in Clint filmography.  So which one?  

Conan: What's your favorite shoot out in a Clint western?
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Post by: mgk on June 20, 2003, 11:36:37 AM
mgk: What's the most touching moment in a Dirty Harry film?

When I first read your question, I panicked!  I thought I was going to have to choose the most touching moment in any Eastwood film.  Okay, if I'm limited to "Dirty Harry" films then it has to be when Kate is killed in The Enforcer.  Seeing Dirty Harry genuinely care about someone that much was very moving and in the end when he comes back up and stands over her body as the camera pulls back is truly sad.  This scene shows a tender side of Harry that we rarely get to see in any of the other films.

Clyde: I saw your comments in the film discussion on A Perfect World and I saw where you said that you were disappointed in the film when it first came out in the theaters but that it plays much better for you now.  What other Eastwood film do you think you have grown to like more after more than one viewing?
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Post by: Brendan on June 20, 2003, 11:41:33 AM
Brendan: What's the most outrageously funny moment in a Clint film?  

Much like KC's question about the quote that makes me laugh the hardest, this one is tough. I cant really answer it theres just too many moments.

From the stares of Harry as he gets annoyed or fed, to Munny trying to shoot that can. Or from Joe talking about his Mule to Francesca telling Kincad the flowers are posionus, there's just too many great moments in the land of Eastwood the pick just one.

Sorry.
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Post by: eustressor on June 20, 2003, 12:19:18 PM
Tags...

KC - I enjoyed answering your last question so much that I'm lobbing it back at you...sort of. If Gene Hackman had refused to take the part of Little Bill Daggett in Unforgiven, and the show had to go on, who would you like to have seen play the part?

Doug - Say you're on the staff at Malpaso (lucky you!). One afternoon, Lenny Niehaus marches out of Clint's office, shouting, "That's it! I'm through! You never let me play!" Clint follows him out and turns to you and says, "Find me a new composer - and I'm not talking about John Williams, either!" Who would you recommend?
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Post by: the stranger on June 20, 2003, 12:49:57 PM
Whoops, thanks for all the private messages, sorry I have not been around that much, but I've been working hard on the Eastwood project for the last 4 months, and it has taken up quite a bit of my time...
and I thought I was going to have a well earned break from all things Eastwood... yeah like  ;D
so 6 Tags! (I think?)
Sorry if the answers are not too in depth, but I'm here at least! ;)
Christopher:
Fav bit of Music from an eastwood film:
I would have to go with the main Titles from Magnum Force, for me it's not only the greatest Eastwood theme, I'd go as far as to say probably one of the greatest main themes from the decade, and there was a lot of great music about, it has everything, but at the same time so unique, I can't top that piece of music.
Thanks for the question Chris.
Philo:
Which soundtrack would I like to see released:
Easy, Lalo Schifrin's Coogan's Bluff, OK, it was released in a very minor way, on a bootleg album, and various bootlegs (of that LP conversion) have been released on CD If I remember right it's only about 7 mins or so, but Lalo MUST get the original masters of this score out, remaster it and give it the full release it deserves, it's a killer score, check out those bongos! :o In the Track Motorcycle Chase a real kick arse score. I think Lalo has an official web site, maybe we should all hop on over there and let him know our thought?
Thanks Philo.
KC which Prop?
Easy, It would have to be that Poncho, is there anything more Iconic! It's not much to ask is it :'(
Thanks KC.
Conan, Best line from the Man with no name?
Not much time to think about this one Conan, Hmmm
Errrr How about, I don't think it nice you laughing that speach just shifts the whole mood of the film in a second! Love the way Leone cuts in close for that line.
That's my fav line today anyway ;)
Thanks Conan
Doug, fav fun movie:
I suppose it depends on what people see as artistic aspirations The Gauntlet I have always seen as pure escapism, pure comic book style, plus I simply love it to bits! So I suppose I would go with that. If you was looking for a complete no brainer I'd go for Pink Cadillac
 I have a bit of a soft spot for it, and cried laughing at Eastwood as the tobacco chewing dumb ass ;D
Hope this covers it Doug, thanks.
Matt, God, a nice easy one huhh ;) how old, first film etc.
I think I was about 14, I'm sure it was a western on TV think it may have been Fistful of Dollars, Might even had been Two mules for sister sara, I know I got a cassette recorder as a kid, remember the ones which had a mic on a lead, piano key buttons etc.. I remember hearing Morricones music coming from the TV and was completely taken by it, I took the cassette recorder over to the TV and recorded the who film on Audio cassette!
(my family still remember this and still tell these stories in my company to people we meet)  :-[
... they talk with affection about it know though, guess they have realised that their boy is a serious fan / collector and now take quite an interest in it...
Anyway, like Philo, I went to all night showings in and around London seeing a lot of the classic films on the Big Screen, took up serious collecting around the same time as Philo, doing a paper round to give me the money to do so, while I was still at school... this could go on for ages...
The funny thing is, my girl still carries a Clint Eastwood photo in her purse, that I gave her when we were at school together! Arrrrrrrrrrrrr! ;D
But I guess you know the rest of the story Matt!
and I guess I'm an Eastwood lifer!
God bless the people close in my life, they are the real people that have had to put up with it all.
Thanks for the question Matt.

..and thanks Philo! I saw the man as I was coming into work tonight, he kicked my arse into gear to get on the board tonight, I knew I should have hidded behind one of those large pot plants in reception!!
Cheers all!
Will try and think up tags for later
-Stranger-
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Post by: MC on June 20, 2003, 01:06:01 PM

MC: My answer to your tag last time was Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil.  What did you think of this film?  How would you rate it among Eastwood directed films whether he is in them or not?

I thought Midnight was a good movie, but not quite a great one. I enjoyed the performances of Cusack and especially Spacey, the originality of the story, and several of Eastwood's directorial flourishes, but overall the film never quite gelled for me in a way that indicated "classic." However, I've only seen Midnight twice, so perhaps there's still time for it to grow on me some more. It's also one of Clint's funniest movies (thanks largely to the Lady Chablis), in my opinion.

I would rate it somewhere in the middle of Clint's filmography, behind the likes of Play Misty for Me, Josey Wales, Bird, White Hunter, Unforgiven, A Perfect World and Bridges, but ahead of such films as The Rookie, True Crime, Space Cowboys and Blood Work.
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Post by: MC on June 20, 2003, 01:24:14 PM
Tags...

bcm: As a big Bridges fan, what did you think of Eastwood's decision (suggested by Spielberg, I believe) to use the "framing" technique of showing Francesca's children finding her diary and reacting to it? Did you think it slowed down the film's momentum at all, or tipped off the viewer on how they should feel about the affair (outrage, then curiosity, then approval)? Or did you feel that it was an effective technique that ultimately strengthened the film?

Misty71: Since viewing Dirty Harry and becoming a big Eastwood fan, have you watched any Eastwood films that you felt matched (or at least approached) the greatness of the original Dirty Harry?
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Post by: Clyde on June 20, 2003, 01:27:53 PM
Answering two tags.

#1. Clyde - If you could choose any item in any Eastwood film to own, which would it be and why?

Of course it would have to be the poncho.  I know that film critic Gene Siskel owned Travolta's white suit from "Saturday Night Fever" and Dorothy's ruby slippers from Oz are a prized possession of someone, but Clint's poncho is more of an icon than these and most other film memorabilia.  It sure would be something to own.  Besides, on Halloween I've gone to parties as Groucho Marx, Napoleon, and assorted pirates, but I know I'd win first prize if that poncho was in my possession.
Other than the poncho, I wouldn't mind owning the Firefox -- traffic on the roads is hellish where I live.


#2. Clyde - What other Eastwood film do you think you have grown to like more after more than one viewing?

Probably "A Fistful Of Dollars" is a film that I've come to appreciate more upon further viewings.  I'm the biggest
Kurosawa fan there is and a fan of "Yojimbo" and I had a hard time separating Clint's remake from the original.
First time I watched "A Fistful of Dollars" I was constantly saying to myself, "Kurosawa pulled that off better...Mifune played that better."  Plus "Fistful" is the weaker of the Leone trilogy so I just dismissed it as a poor imitation of something better.  I think I've moved past those feelings, and I no longer have any distaste for it at all.  I still feel it's weak in comparison to "Yojimbo" and the other Leone westerns, but I do now feel it is a pretty good film.

two tags:

mgk: Here's a twist on one of your tags.  You're throwing a dinner party for three.  Which two characters from a Clint film do you invite over to have dinner with?

bcm: I'm curious.  For someone who said in a post that "westerns are not a part of my cultural background," I'd sure like to know what do you think of Clint's westerns?  Do you prefer them over other westerns?  Do you prefer Clint's non-westerns? The larger question, however, is how can westerns (with their basic themes of loyalty, courage, duty, honor, friendship, and love for freedom) not be a part of one's cultural background?  (I apologize in advance for this being a none too simple yes or no tag.)
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Post by: mgk on June 20, 2003, 02:08:25 PM
mgk: Here's a twist on one of your tags.  You're throwing a dinner party for three.  Which two characters from a Clint film do you invite over to have dinner with?

I'm not sure whether I'm allowed to invite a character played by Eastwood or not.  If I am allowed then I would love to invite John Wilson (Eastwood) from White Hunter, Black Heart and Gus Malley (Locke) from The Gauntlet.  Then, I think I would just serve dinner and get out of the way. :o

If I'm not allowed to choose a character played by Eastwood then I think I would choose Aggie (Marsha Mason) from Heartbreak Ridge and Beryl Thibodeaux (Geneviève Bujold) from Tightrope.  Those are two of my favorite female leads in an Eastwood movie and we would just sit down for some "girl talk."

D'Amb: Eastwood has covered just about every genre of film in his career and we've had some discussion here on the board about him doing a science fiction movie.  But, other than a western or a science fiction movie, what genre would you like to see Eastwood do again?  A cop/detective movie, a love story, just a drama similar to A Perfect World, or a comedy/drama like Bronco Billy, or something else entirely?
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Post by: Christopher on June 20, 2003, 02:40:15 PM
Christopher - If you could erase one film off of Eastwood's filmography, which one would it be?
It might not be real fair for me to say it, but I'd probably go with City Heat. The reason why it's not fair is because I haven't seen the movie in a really long time, and I've only seen it that one time. Upon that first (and so far, only) viewing, the movie didn't overly impress me. I don't know what it was about it. I remember commenting to my mom that Reynolds and Eastwood just didn't seem to be the best combination.
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Post by: Christopher on June 20, 2003, 03:14:17 PM
Tagging...

mgk: What was it about Eastwood that made you such a big fan?
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Post by: D'Ambrosia on June 20, 2003, 06:07:48 PM



D'Amb: Eastwood has covered just about every genre of film in his career and we've had some discussion here on the board about him doing a science fiction movie.  But, other than a western or a science fiction movie, what genre would you like to see Eastwood do again?  A cop/detective movie, a love story, just a drama similar to A Perfect World, or a comedy/drama like Bronco Billy, or something else entirely?

Thanks for the tag mgk... :)

I'd kind of like to see him in another military role.  Not like Heartbreak Ridge or anything, more like a Midway or The Longest Day type of flick as a high ranking general making tough decisions.  Or even a small cameo role as like, say, General Lee in a Civil War movie.  That would be kind of cool.   I hope we haven't seen the last of him on screen, but I have a feeling that the older he gets he will stay behind the scenes more.  I'm sure he'll pop up every now and then...

-Tag coming up...
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Post by: Conan on June 20, 2003, 06:19:37 PM
Matt: Which character from an Eastwood film would you say is most like you?  What traits do you have in common?  (It doesn't have to be an Eastwood character)

I answered a question a little bit like this when I was asked about which character I most identify with, but this is slightly different so I have a different answer.  I would guess Philo Beddoe...He takes care of his body, loves adventure (partly why I travel), chases skirt (thats old-school slang :) ), is kind of goofy like me (he travels with a orangutang), and though I'm no expert brawler like Philo, I can and have handled myself pretty well.  I don't think I'm a carbon copy of Philo, but I have a good amount in common with the guy, we pretty much have the same outlook on life.

Doug: What's your favorite shoot out in a Clint western?

The end of "For a Few Dollars More".  I can watch it over and over again...


Tags...

Brendan: What is the cheesiest line in a movie that Clint has ever said (not including the harpoon line "he's hanging out, out back" from "The Dead Pool)?

Doug: Who was the best Eastwood sidekick (not including the Dollars trilogy)?

MGK: If you could have been an extra in an Eastwood flick, which movie and which scene would you choose?


  If I get tagged again, I won't be able to answer for about 3.5 weeks.  So I'm not ignoring anyone :)
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Post by: Brendan on June 20, 2003, 07:31:06 PM
Brendan: What is the cheesiest line in a movie that Clint has ever said (not including the harpoon line "he's hanging out, out back" from "The Dead Pool)?

Ah man. Thats probably the most cheesiest of all his lines. Thats more like an Arnold one liner than anything. "Let off steam Bennet."  ;D

Anyway, probably the this line from Pink Cadillac: "Too much raw dude for ya, huh babe? Well I can dig it. If my life were a movie, there'd be a sign on it saying "Caution, some scenes too intense for younger viewers."

Thats cheesy, but I love it.

Conan - Same question back at yah.  ;)
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Post by: mgk on June 20, 2003, 07:36:25 PM
Tagging...
mgk: What was it about Eastwood that made you such a big fan?

I've been a fan for a really long time but only a serious fan for about a dozen years.  I think I slowly started realizing that Eastwood is a complete filmmaker instead of just an actor or just a director.  With the exception of only two or three movies in the last ten or twelve years, he has just gotten better and better.  As for his acting style, it is very appealing because it is so understated.  When it comes to directing, he just has it all.  But, I think the things I like most about his directing are his ability to develop characters and to build relationships.  He takes his time and that works to his and the movie's advantage.

MGK: If you could have been an extra in an Eastwood flick, which movie and which scene would you choose?

When I first read this, I thought it was going to be easy.  But, as I look through his list of films, it's not so easy.  First, I have to decide which movie I would like to be in and then I have to decide if there is a crowd scene where I can be an extra....hard to find both.  But, I think I would have liked to have been one of the residents of Lago in High Plains Drifter.  The reason I say that is because I think I would have an opportunity to be on the set more and I could not only watch Eastwood act but I could watch his mastery at directing.  I guess I would choose the scene where Stacey Bridges has everyone rounded up in the saloon just before the final shootout.  (More screen time than any other scene. :D)

Be back in a minute with two tags.
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Post by: Conan on June 20, 2003, 08:09:36 PM
Conan - Same question back at yah.  ;)

  The Harpoon line from the last "Harry" flick, without question.
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Post by: Xichado on June 20, 2003, 08:16:52 PM
Guys, thank you for all your tags.

I haven’t been able to answer them but I am starting tonight and hope to answer all your tags as soon as possible.

XICHADO - Your roomate's name is John and he hates Eastwood and thinks he sucks as an actor. You cannot convince him in any way that he is original and has any talent. John has only seen part of the Gauntlet and has based his entire opinion on that movie. One night he gives in and agrees to watching an Eastwood movie of your choosing. Which movie do you pick to watch and why?

I would pick the Gauntlet. If John had only seen part of it then he needs to see the entire movie in order to have a complete understanding of the movie and of Eastwood’s acting.

Ben Shockley is a very diversified character and Clint Eastwood gave us a great performance playing him. Ben Shockley is a police officer that fell into the realms of the disenchanted and was stereo-typed as a man that just follows the orders he is given by his superiors, then the character develops and Shockley has to prove to himself and to his superiors that he is much more than what people think of him.


Tagging:

KC: I’m putting together a video with the highlights and best moments of Clint Eastwood’s career (a video that will be shown on our first Eastwood Festival). Since the damn aliens have finally released Agent, they decided to turn on me (for exposing and ruining their plans) and they punish me by stealing my cd’s... all of them.

I wanted to use Ravel’s Boléro as a soundtrack to my video, a song that from my point of view starts as an almost unnoticeable melody and, as it progresses, leads me into the center of a (sonic) revolution and, finally, at the sound of the last note I am left in awe, gazing at the emotions that this song has awaken in me. (also, is a good song for headbanging but that is a different story). I would pick this song because that is more or less the impact of Eastwood’s career on me, started as unnoticeable and here I am in the center of the revolution.

Since the aliens have my cd’s and I believe you like classical music, I’m desperate and I seek your help. What other (or others) piece of classical music would you advice me to use and allow me to borrow for my video?

Matt: I don’t know if you been asked this, it's one of your favourites and I would like to know your answer.  ;)
You win the lottery! To raise money for one of Eastwood's favorite charities, he has given away a choice to the grand prize winner... work as Assistant Director on his next film (no pay involved) or take $1 million in tax-free hard, cold cash.  Which do you choose?
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Post by: mgk on June 20, 2003, 08:18:07 PM
Tags I owe........

MC: I asked Matt this question but I knew what his answer was going to be.  ;)  Which of the seven new DVDs are you looking the most forward to seeing and/or owning?  City Heat, Honkytonk Man, Pink Cadillac, The Rookie, Tightrope, Where Eagles Dare, or White Hunter, Black Heart?

Christopher:  Have you ever told us what your all-time favorite movie is (besides Paint Your Wagon, of course)? ;)  If not, could you tell us now and also why it's your favorite?  If you have, could you jog my memory, please?
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Post by: Christopher on June 20, 2003, 08:50:30 PM
Christopher:  Have you ever told us what your all-time favorite movie is (besides Paint Your Wagon, of course)? ;)  If not, could you tell us now and also why it's your favorite?  If you have, could you jog my memory, please?
Aw, yes, Paint Your Wagon.....A timeless classic.... ;)

I don't believe I've ever told my favorite Eastwood film, for sure. That can be a tough thing to do. However, and maybe I have made some mention of this before, the closest to an all-time favorite of mine that I can come up with is Dirty Harry. I just watched Dirty Harry again tonight for the upcoming film discussion, so I suppose this question is quite timely. I guess the reason would be somewhat sentimental for me. Besides the fact that I've yet to see a cop thriller better than Dirty Harry, it was how I first became aware of Clint Eastwood when I was a little kid. I can't remember which Harry movie was my first, but the original is clearly the one that stands out. It's one of the movies that I've seen more times than any other. Don't ask how many time, I don't have a clue. I do know that it wouldn't be some obscene number, I don't watch movies over and over again like that (I've probably watched the DVD about 4 times within the past year and a half, which is quite a lot for me).
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Post by: Christopher on June 20, 2003, 09:12:39 PM
Zoso: Maybe you've answered this before, but, what is your favorite Eastwood movie?
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Post by: zoso on June 20, 2003, 09:23:02 PM
i have answered it before christopher, and i think it changes by the day or my mood. i do, however keep coming back to the beguiled for some reason. i also like josey wales, dirty harry, gbu and unforgiven  to round out the list.   thanks for the tag.
    i'll tag later when i come up with a few questions. i would like to add that all the questions posed so far have been great though.
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Post by: Matt on June 20, 2003, 09:32:32 PM
Sorry the delay  ;D

Good to see you on the board again, Aline! :)
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Post by: Matt on June 20, 2003, 09:42:32 PM
tagging:

Matt: If you could have been a crew member on one of Eastwood's movies, which movie would you choose, and what position would you want to have?

Hmmm... that's tough, since I don't know anything about film-making.  But, I'm gonna pick "Director of Photography" for White Hunter, Black Heart, since I enjoy landscape photography and I'd give about anything to see such a beautiful location as that to capture on film.  And of course, it's also one of my favorite Eastwood films.  
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Post by: Matt on June 20, 2003, 09:57:43 PM

Matt: I haven't tagged you this game.  Your leprechaun comes to you in a bad mood, and states that Clint hasn't died enough times in his movies, and he's going to magically fix that so that he does die at the end of another movie.  However, he demands that you choose which movie in Clint filmography.  So which one?  


 >:( That blasted leprechaun!  

Someone (was it you, Doug?) had already gotten this question and replied Heartbreak Ridge, which I thought was a very good answer.  I'll give a different one, though.

Blood Work.  I felt emotionless throughout this film and completely detached from all the characters. So maybe if all of the warnings from Dr. Fox didn't play out as just a lame plot point to show how much of a risk it was for McCaleb to be chasing Gloria's killer, but actually did cause a rejection of the transplant, then it might have been a more poignant film.  Maybe.
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Post by: Matt on June 20, 2003, 10:01:56 PM
Other than the poncho, I wouldn't mind owning the Firefox -- traffic on the roads is hellish where I live.

(http://home.swfla.rr.com/mattreigns/lol.gif)
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Post by: Matt on June 20, 2003, 10:05:31 PM
I'm the biggest
Kurosawa fan there is and a fan of "Yojimbo" and I had a hard time separating Clint's remake from the original.
First time I watched "A Fistful of Dollars" I was constantly saying to myself, "Kurosawa pulled that off better...Mifune played that better."  Plus "Fistful" is the weaker of the Leone trilogy so I just dismissed it as a poor imitation of something better.  I think I've moved past those feelings, and I no longer have any distaste for it at all.  I still feel it's weak in comparison to "Yojimbo" and the other Leone westerns, but I do now feel it is a pretty good film.

Clyde, if you come by the board before we close the A Fistful of Dollars discussion on Sunday night, I'd love for you to add your thoughts to our thread that compares FOD to Yojimbo.  I saw Yojimbo years ago and really enjoyed it, but I couldn't compare the two of them without seeing it again, and I haven't had the time.

HERE (http://www.clinteastwood.org/forums/index.php?board=16;action=display;threadid=907) is the link to the thread.  :)
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Post by: Matt on June 20, 2003, 10:14:18 PM
I would pick the Gauntlet. If John had only seen part of it then he needs to see the entire movie in order to have a complete understanding of the movie and of Eastwood’s acting.

Ben Shockley is a very diversified character and Clint Eastwood gave us a great performance playing him. Ben Shockley is a police officer that fell into the realms of the disenchanted and was stereo-typed as a man that just follows the orders he is given by his superiors, then the character develops and Shockley has to prove to himself and to his superiors that he is much more than what people think of him.

What a great answer!  And very unexpected, but so right.  

Great to see you on the board again, Xichado.  I'll be sure to tag you later tonight. :)
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Post by: Matt on June 20, 2003, 10:16:01 PM
 :o Every post on this page is mine! (http://home.swfla.rr.com/mattreigns/instantshock.gif)

Man...  :-[
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Post by: KC on June 20, 2003, 10:17:46 PM
Poor Matt!  :o :'(
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Post by: Matt on June 20, 2003, 10:21:30 PM
I wanted to use Ravel’s Boléro as a soundtrack to my video, a song that from my point of view starts as an almost unnoticeable melody and, as it progresses, leads me into the center of a (sonic) revolution and, finally, at the sound of the last note I am left in awe, gazing at the emotions that this song has awaken in me.

If you played trombone in high school band and needed to do this song, you'd hate it.  Trust me, I know.  Really, really bad trombone part.  We literally groaned every time the conducter announced we had to rehearse that one.

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Matt: I don’t know if you been asked this, it's one of your favourites and I would like to know your answer.  ;)
You win the lottery! To raise money for one of Eastwood's favorite charities, he has given away a choice to the grand prize winner... work as Assistant Director on his next film (no pay involved) or take $1 million in tax-free hard, cold cash.  Which do you choose?

The stakes would have to be higher than a million for me to pass up the opportunity of a lifetime!  Yes, I'd definitely, without a moment's hesitation, work with Clint!    

When I first wrote that question last tag game, I had asked two board members if they'd take $2 million or the job with Clint, and they both took the cash.  I decided to lower it for this game, and so far, no one's interested in the money.  I wonder if the extra million would have made a difference here.  It wouldn't for me.  It would have to go just a little higher.  :)
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Post by: Matt on June 20, 2003, 11:27:52 PM
TAGGING....

nyna:  What was the first Eastwood movie you saw, and was that the one that made you a fan?  If not, which one did it?

Xichado:  Your turn at the lottery question!  But this time... it's $2 million.  What do you do?  Work with Clint as Assistant Director on one of his films (no pay involved) or take the $2 million tax-free cash?

zoso:  Which co-star that Clint has worked with has been your least favorite, and why?

Clyde:  What is your favorite character that Eastwood has portrayed, and why?

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Post by: bcm on June 21, 2003, 01:14:18 PM
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BCM:  Image Clint is in your town and you ran into him in a drugstore... buying something for an upset stomach.  He looks horrible, and you strike up conversation and find out that eating out in restaurants hasn't agreed with him, and he'd give anything for a home-cooked meal.  Jumping at the chance, you invite him to your home.  You want to make him something that will not only make him feel good and healthy again, but you want to dazzle him and make a meal for him he'll never forget.  What's on the menu?
Hey Matt, where does all your fantasy come from :) Because if you knew in what a lost village I live...
It's a nice thought though, imagine, to have Clint as a guest  :D. As far as my personal experiences are, when you are in foreign countries, you crave for something very simple, but from HOME. So, I guess, I would have to disappoint Eastwood for that! And then, with an upset stomach, I don't know how much fun you get out of a fancy meal ;) Rice is supposed to be good, so I would propose him a Riz Casimir. I don't know if you are familiar with that dish, it's rice, with either chopped pork or chopped chicken on a curry sauce, accompagnied with fruit. What I like best are bananas fried in butter, and almond bits with them. mmmmmm
To get a picture of how it can look:
(http://www.biochem-caflisch.unizh.ch/gianluca/picts/London/rizcasimir.jpg)
But I might ask Clint if he really likes tater tots  :D We don't have them over here, but a traditional swiss dish is called Rösti seems to resemble. We usually eat that with sausages and vegetables. Want a picture again (thanks mgk for teaching me how to post pictures, this is fun :D at least for me  ;D)
(http://www.saveurs.sympatico.ca/ency_3/patate/roesti.jpg)
To make it a full menu, I would start with a mixed salad, then one of these main dishes. For desert he can choose, we usually have loads of stuff at home, because I'm crazy about sweets! And, of course, my country is famous for chocolate! Anyone hungry  ;)
Did that answer your question, Matt? Wanna come over to taste  :D Or is it too foreign?
I'll be back with my other answers! And with my tags!
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Post by: Matt on June 21, 2003, 01:20:42 PM

Did that answer your question, Matt? Wanna come over to taste  :D Or is it too foreign?

I like tasting foreign things.  ;)

And now that you mentioned chocolate....  that makes it even more sweet.
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Post by: bcm on June 21, 2003, 01:27:54 PM
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bcm: As a big Bridges fan, what did you think of Eastwood's decision (suggested by Spielberg, I believe) to use the "framing" technique of showing Francesca's children finding her diary and reacting to it? Did you think it slowed down the film's momentum at all, or tipped off the viewer on how they should feel about the affair (outrage, then curiosity, then approval)? Or did you feel that it was an effective technique that ultimately strengthened the film?
Thanks for the tag, MC. It's a very interesting question, because I didn't like the performances of the children of Francesca very well. But I do think that the story would loose a lot of it's strength, if you didn't frame it this way. One big thing for me was the impossibility for Francesca to share. On their first supper after Robert had left town she thinks:
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How I wanted to share this! How would our lives have changed, if I had?! Could anyone else have seen the beauty of it?
. But we all know, from the beginning of the film, thanks to the framing, that she never did say a single word. We also know that she never saw Robert again, which adds a lot of tragedy to the whole situation. I don't know if we would have understood the impossible situation Francesca and Robert were in, if the story wasn't told the way it is, after her death.
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...on how they should feel about the affair (outrage, then curiosity, then approval)?
 Well, this didn't work with me. Adultery is so very common, there is just no sense in condemming it. So, with or without framing, this doesn't change a bit for me. But, as I tried to explain above, the framing did strengthen the film very much. I think it was much better to tell it this way  :)
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Post by: KC on June 21, 2003, 01:57:03 PM
Tags...

KC - I enjoyed answering your last question so much that I'm lobbing it back at you...sort of. If Gene Hackman had refused to take the part of Little Bill Daggett in Unforgiven, and the show had to go on, who would you like to have seen play the part?

Wow, that's a tough one, eustressor ... it should be someone who had some experience in Westerns ... someone who's a great character actor and could convey all the nuances of villainy, while still projecting a certain menacing charm ...

Maybe it's way out in left field, but I'm going to nominate ... Dennis Hopper.

KC: I’m putting together a video with the highlights and best moments of Clint Eastwood’s career (a video that will be shown on our first Eastwood Festival). Since the damn aliens have finally released Agent, they decided to turn on me (for exposing and ruining their plans) and they punish me by stealing my cd’s... all of them.

I wanted to use Ravel’s Boléro as a soundtrack to my video, a song that from my point of view starts as an almost unnoticeable melody and, as it progresses, leads me into the center of a (sonic) revolution and, finally, at the sound of the last note I am left in awe, gazing at the emotions that this song has awaken in me. (also, is a good song for headbanging but that is a different story). I would pick this song because that is more or less the impact of Eastwood’s career on me, started as unnoticeable and here I am in the center of the revolution.

Since the aliens have my cd’s and I believe you like classical music, I’m desperate and I seek your help. What other (or others) piece of classical music would you advice me to use and allow me to borrow for my video?
Hmm, Xichado, like Matt ... I'm not too keen on Ravel's "Bolero" (even though I never had to play the trombone part, or even the trumpet part) ... and I'm not really sure I like the idea of accompanying a video of Clint's career highlights with any music other than what's found in his own films ... some of the wonderful jazz from various films ... Schifrin's "Dirty Harry" music ... Morricone ... and of course, Eastwood's own themes from his later films.

But if it had to be classical music, I think I'd choose Wagner. Themes from Der Ring des Nibelungen for the dramatic moments ... maybe some of the majestic music from Die Meistersinger von Nürnberg for the moments of triumph like Clint's Oscar win (I'm assuming you're including a few off-screen highlights as well as film clips).

Still, I think it's a stretch ... Dirty Harry and "The Ride of the Valkyries"? Unforgiven and "Siegfried's Funeral Music"? More suitable than Bach or Mozart, without a doubt, but somehow ... just ... wrong.  ???

Sorry I can't do better than that.

Tags coming later ... ;)
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Post by: bcm on June 21, 2003, 02:00:51 PM
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bcm: I'm curious.  For someone who said in a post that "westerns are not a part of my cultural background," I'd sure like to know what do you think of Clint's westerns?  Do you prefer them over other westerns?  Do you prefer Clint's non-westerns? The larger question, however, is how can westerns (with their basic themes of loyalty, courage, duty, honor, friendship, and love for freedom) not be a part of one's cultural background?  (I apologize in advance for this being a none too simple yes or no tag.)

Thanks for the tag, Clyde. And I'm sorry I post one by one, but I can't quote the way I used to, sorry...
This will be another long answer, because I kind of have to explain how I grew up in order for you to understand my cultural background  :) I live in Europe, so actually, western is not our culture (at least this is the way I feel about it). Of course there are a lot of westerns on TV. But, even as a kid, when I still did have a TV at my parents home, we didn't watch too much TV. I'm more a reader than a TV fan. We did watch some westerns, but I have to admit that I hardly remember any. We did love Winnetou, but I guess you don't know that (written by Karl May). I read these Karl May books, and they tell the story of a friendship between a cowboy and an indian. Later I would read Federica de Cesco's book Der rote Seidenschal (the red silkscarf), where she turns the story around. As opposed to the usual western, in her story the "good" is the indian, not wanting to leave his homeground. And the "bad" are the trecks, killing and stealing that land. From then on, I didn't like any western killing indians anymore. So, the only western I remebered were Once upon a time in the west, and GBU. I'm sure I have seen a lot of other westerns, but they just didn't interest me anymore, sorry...So I cannot compare Eastwood's westerns to others.. I do like Unforgiven a lot, because it takes the glory off the violence and killing. And since in Clint-westerns, they never kill indians, I can enjoy them, now, redescovering them one by one. But my favorite three movies of Eastwood are non-westerns, so far (I haven't gotten around to watch them all...) They are just closer to my life, I can relate more.
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The larger question, however, is how can westerns (with their basic themes of loyalty, courage, duty, honor, friendship, and love for freedom) not be a part of one's cultural background?  
Well, see, here I don't agree with you. As stated above, I'm more an indian than a cowboy. So I don't really see "love for freedom", "honor", and things like that in any western. It just depends on what story is told! But you might agree that a lot of these westerns were about trecks, and fighting off indians, no? And, being from europe, I just don't feel that history about emigrated europeans is automatically my history as well. Does that answer your question? I hope I haven't hurt any feelings, but I guess we can agree to disagree, and still be ok with it  :D

KC: Eastwood accords you an interview. But since he doesn't have much spare time, he would like you to accompany him on a mountain climbing tour (not too difficult, but with small paths where you see right down the mountain without anything to hold unto). Do you agree?
mgk: You are allowed (say by a leprechaun  ;)) to spend a one week holiday with a female character of your choice. Who do you choose, and why?
Xichado: (my fantasy isn't too good, so you get mgk's question) But you have to choose a male, non-Eastwood character
AKA23: which movie of Eastwood's career do you think is the most good (in the sense of the least immoral)
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Post by: KC on June 21, 2003, 02:06:07 PM
KC: Eastwood accords you an interview. But since he doesn't have much spare time, he would like you to accompany him on a mountain climbing tour (not too difficult, but with small paths where you see right down the mountain without anything to hold unto). Do you agree?
(http://forums.nyyfans.com/images/smilies/scared.gif)  Sorry, Clint!  :'(
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Post by: bcm on June 21, 2003, 02:21:03 PM
Love your blue smilie  :D
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Post by: philo on June 21, 2003, 04:21:06 PM

From MGK :

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Philo: Which film do you think that Eastwood appeared to have the most fun makiing?


From the location scenes I have seen I would say all of them. If we are talking on screen , Michael Cimino said that he wanted to make Clint laugh and he sure does in Thunderbolt and Lightfoot. Every which way but loose is the other film that he appears to enjoy himself.


Tagging :

The stranger

Which Eastwood film that you missed would you most like to see on the big screen ?


Matt

Should there ever be a get together of Clint Eastwood board memebers ?



Philo .
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Post by: AKA23 on June 21, 2003, 04:26:22 PM
AKA: You've been selected to handle the release date and schedule of Mystic River. When (date) and how (wide, limited, etc.) do you release Mystic River in theaters to maximize box office and awards potential?

I've thought about this some more, MC. Thanks for the question.

 As a fan of Clint's and a filmgoer, it's frustrating to have to wait months and months to see a film that's already been completed, just because the studio wants to make the most money possible. However, if I was then a part of that studio, and my responsibility was to maximize box office potential, which ordinarily I wouldn't really care about, then I may keep Mystic River right where it is. Either way, Mystic River will probably be forgotten for major awards (a nomination for one of the actors is not so implausible), so I don't think it will really make all that much difference. I don't see Mystic River securing lots of nominations in the big categories come Oscar time, but in scheduling the film one would need to acknowledge that possibility. For awards and things like that, the Sepember/October time period is supposed to be good for exposure, so we'll just have to see. It might have been even better to have released it following the Cannes Film Festival, as it seemed to get a lot of praise there as being one of the better films this year, and following on the heels of such success, having a release closely following that festival, when the film would still be close to the forefront of many people's minds in the industry, might not have been such a bad idea. That way the film would be able to take advantage of the recent positive publicity more effectively.

However, I think you also have to take into account the fact that this film has a very liberal cast, and given the current political climate, there may be quite a few people who, for whatever reason, take issue with the stars of the film, which could hurt box office success. Sure, it's probably a small minority of people who would boycott the film on account of the cast, but waiting a bit longer, as the studio is doing with its September release, will help to ease tensions and the anger of some people may fade with time. So, either releasing it in the September/October time period, or shortly after the Cannes Film Festival, would probably be good for the film and there are advantages and disadvantages to both time periods. Does that answer your question? Agree or disagree? What were your thoughts?

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Post by: AKA23 on June 21, 2003, 04:52:47 PM

AKA23 - In a parallel universe, Clint never took up directing. However, he did have the clout to pick and choose his projects, and to look for films that best suited the kinds of issues he wanted to address. Therefore, his filmography remained the same. What movie do you think would have suffered the most minus Clint as a director, and are there any you feel would have been better without him sitting in the Big Chair?

It's always tough for me to try to assess the influence of the director in a film. Who's to say how much of that influence is in the finished product of the film. I think as a lay person, and somebody who doesn't necessarily have a great conception of the duties of a director, the importance of a director to the overall feel of the film and the project in general, sometimes it seems as if I don't necessarily know what was the directorial touch that Eastwood added, the thing that was different, how much of the general aura of the film would be different had he not been a part of it. Sometimes it's impossible to discern these things until they aren't there and you realize, wait a minute, this doesn't feel like it should. I'm not used to it being done this way. This feels different than his other films. Unless you sense the ABSENCE of something that was there previously, it's difficult to assess what kind of an impact was made day to day and in the overall realization of the vision of a particular film. Does this make sense to you?

This being said, I think either Unforgiven or A Perfect World would probably have suffered the most without Clint as a director. In the case of Unforgiven , this was the film that led people to respect Eastwood more as a director, so you've got to acknowledge that the film was very well directed, and not only that, but that had Eastwood not been involved in the directing of this picture, it may have been very very different. It's possible that somebody else directing the film might not have had the same passion for the story, the same resolve to do it right, or the same vision with respect to the film. Another director might have tried to make the William Munny character more sympathetic, feeling that he was too amoral to connect with audiences who were looking for a more traditionalist western where the good guy triumphs over evil. Another director might have left the ending less ambiguous, might have included the homecoming scene, might have included a few scenes about Munny's past, might have given us more backgroud, more of a sense of who this person was before Claudia. Another director might not have had the sense to recognize the brilliance in David Webb People's script, might have changed it around, might have added too much, taken away too much. Another director might not have had the sense or the inclination to put on film what already worked as a script. In trying to improve on it, another director could have changed some of the things that made it work, making it worse, and not better. For all these reasons, and more, Clint Eastwood's Unforgiven in large part because it is just that, Clint Eastwood's Unforgiven . If it had been somebody else's [] Unforgiven [/I], if they had the opportunity to put forth their own vision, it could have been a very different film, having suffered greatly.

As you yourself have pointed out Eutressor, A Perfect World works in large part again because of Eastwood's part as director. A lot of it is highly stylized, some would say more than most of Clint's self-directed films, and for that reason alone, for that presence of an abundance of directorial touches here and there that combine together to contribute to this fully realized whole, the film would have suffered greatly without Clint as director. Not only this, but due to the co-starring role of Clint in this one, his role as director was far more important than his role as an actor. His impact on the production as director/producer far outshadowed, in my mind anyway, his role as an actor. It could be argued that a fair number of people COULD have possibly played the Red Garnett character, perhaps differently, perhaps not as well as Eastwood, but it can be argued that perhaps only Eastwood could have it realized in the way that he did as director. It can also be argued quite well that one of the strongest points of the film, the acting, was related to Eastwood's ability to get the most effective and the best performance out of both Kevin Costner and the little boy who played Philip. I don't think just anybody could have gotten those performances out of the actors. Just looking at Kevin Costner's range of performances, with a different director, we could have had a very different performance. Eastwood was able to get the best out of Costner. With another director, without that passion and that ability, who knows what we might have seen on the screen from principal actors in the film.

As far as films where it may have been better had Eastwood sat out on the directing, I can point to a few, but I don't know if the films would have actually been better without Eastwood as a director. I think they would have been different films. Whether or not that would have improved the quality of the film, or made it more enjoyable, that's very difficult to say. Eastwood has been criticized for the lackluster pace of a lot of his films, and two films where somebody else might have done it better, possibly, are both Absolute Power and True Crime . With the race against the clock story of True Crime I think a lot of people were expecting a faster paced, more suspenseful film. Both films were very slow paced, and may have benefited a bit had somebody picked up the pace a bit, injected a little more suspense and nail biting tension into the story. I think In the Line of Fire would have been a very different film had Eastwood directed it, and for some of these same reasons, it probably turned out better because Wolfgang Peterson was the director.

What do you think of these comments Eustressor? What do you agree with? What do you disagree with, and how would you answer the same question? Your question was quite loaded Eustressor, so I do hope that I've given it the time and the respect that it deserved. I did my best given the circumstances.
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Post by: AKA23 on June 21, 2003, 04:55:35 PM
AKA23: which movie of Eastwood's career do you think is the most good (in the sense of the least immoral)

BCM, I must confess that I don't really understand this question. Is there any way that you could perhaps clarify it a bit for me, perhaps using different language, so that I would better be able to answer it? Somebody asked me what Eastwood film had the most positive message, is this the same question, just with different words? Is the intent the same as asking me which was the most positive? I'm having difficulty understanding the meainging of the "least immoral." I answered Bronco Billy in that question. I'd love to be able to answer your question, but I need a little bit more information. Thank you! :)
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Post by: the stranger on June 21, 2003, 05:09:15 PM
From Philo
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Which Eastwood film that you missed would you most like to see on the big screen ?
Pretty Easy really, It would be one of the few I have not seen on the big screen; which are Coogan's Bluff and The Eiger Sanction. I'd probably go for the later, simply because of the scope aspect of the movie.
I did have the Universal 8 2 x400 FLAT which I screened in my living room on a 6ft screen, but I doubt if that counts right? ::) ;D ;D ;D
Cheers Philo :)
-Stranger-
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Post by: Clyde on June 21, 2003, 05:32:07 PM
Clyde: What is your favorite Eastwood character and why?

Clint's most interesting character is "Unforgiven's" William Munny.  At times caring and human and then a brutal savage.  Not many films present a character as wide-ranging as this.  Clint was able to make both ends of Munny's spectrum crystal clear.  A fantastic character done justice with an excellent potrayal.
P.S. Matt, thanks for the tip to the "Dollars" vs. "Yojimbo" board.


tag to...

Matt:  Hollywood's current way is sequels, remakes, or comic books.
a. Which Clint film that wasn't should have been "sequelized"?
b. Which Clint film would stand up for a remake?
c. Which Clint character could be the star of a daily newspaper comic strip?
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Post by: the stranger on June 21, 2003, 05:58:46 PM
OK. I think I owe about 6 tags... been straining the brain for these, don't know if they have been asked already, but hey, who cares ;D
Philo
Jerry Goldsmith has never scored a Clint Eastwood movie, which film do you thing jerry would have done a good job on?

Matt
If you was in a Bathroom with Clint.. ;D ;D relax, just kidding!
What 70's or 80's TV Series do you think Clint would of worked well in?
KC
What 60's 70's or 80's film of Clint's do you think would of been interesting to see a sequel made?
MGK
M, what scene in any Clint film has made you laugh the hardest?
Christopher
If you could change an ending to any Clint film, which one and why?
D'amb
You have a camera, you have 36 shots only, you can be present at any one scene from any one film to use these 36 shots, which scene would you use up your film?


-Stranger- ;)
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Post by: philo on June 21, 2003, 06:11:52 PM
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Philo
Jerry Goldsmith has never scored a Clint Eastwood movie, which film do you thing jerry would have done a good job on?


Well I am a big fan of Goldsmith, Star trek, The Omen, Magic and Legend to name a few.
The problem is that I can't think of any Eastwood scores that could be replaced.
I think Jerry would have been at home on Where eagles dare or Kelly's heroes.


Tagging :

MGK

Was it right for Lightfoot to die ?


Philo .
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Post by: Doug on June 21, 2003, 09:13:11 PM

Doug - Say you're on the staff at Malpaso (lucky you!). One afternoon, Lenny Niehaus marches out of Clint's office, shouting, "That's it! I'm through! You never let me play!" Clint follows him out and turns to you and says, "Find me a new composer - and I'm not talking about John Williams, either!" Who would you recommend?

Oh man, I'm the wrong person to ask this of.  The only film composers I can name are the ones everybody knows -- all three or four of them. I love Jerry Goldsmith, but his music wouldn't really fit Clint's movies -- and I don't think he's even working anymore these days, is he?  However I just saw About Schmidt, and I noticed the music was very subdued, and quite reminded me of Clint's use of music.  According to IMDB, the original music is by Rolfe Kent and Erik Satie -- so maybe that would be a start.  Or maybe I tell Clint I got the perfect guy, just give me a couple of weeks, and I send my own personal assistant ( ;D) to find some new young guy with a background in jazz and a yearning to score films, and we can shape him into the perfect man.  Really, that's the best answer I can give.  Sorry.



Doug: Who was the best Eastwood sidekick (not including the Dollars trilogy)?


I assume I'm not limited to genre ... so I'd have to say Jeff Bridges' Lightfoot.  He only ranks below Eli Wallach's Tuco for me as a favorite "sidekick" -- male co-star.  
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Post by: Doug on June 21, 2003, 09:22:17 PM
Tags:

Holden Pike: How do you think the movie Thunderbolt and Lightfoot ranks against (or compares to) some of the great "buddy" action (action, western, etc.) films of the 1970's?  

KC: Which Clint directed movie do you watch the least?

Concorde: What's your favorite "gun scene" in a non-western Clint movie?
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Post by: Xichado on June 21, 2003, 09:23:56 PM
Xichado: Is there a director that you'd like to see Eastwood work with? If so, who?

Hey Christopher. Doug asked me more or less the same question in the old tag thread, and I believe I said I would like to see Clint working with Tim Burton.

I like Tim Burton a lot, mainly because of “Edward Scissorhands”, a movie that captured (unknowingly) so much about my generation (Gen-X) thru the main character. Edward has all the characteristics of the Gen-Xers, those that do not see themselves as Beavis and Butthead, that is hard not to see myself reflected on Edward and on his emotions. By the way, I would love to see Johnny Deep work with Clint.

Anyway, when I watch the majority of Tim Burton’s movies I completely forget about everyone and everything around me, I feel like a little kid that is hearing a ghost story or a fairy tale for the first time… I am transported into another dimension and that is the reason why I like Burton.

A few others: Scott Hicks, director of Shine (liked it a lot) and Snow Falling on Cedars (loved it loved it loved it).

Sidney Pollack because I like the way he tells a story.


Xichado:  Your turn at the lottery question!  But this time... it's $2 million.  What do you do?  Work with Clint as Assistant Director on one of his films (no pay involved) or take the $2 million tax-free cash?

Still the same answer as before (last time was only $1 million)

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Since I don’t really care about the money I would go with working with Clint.

Only because it would be the chance of a lifetime, it would be an experience to remember and cherish for the rest of my life. I would have the chance to work closely to someone I admire and maybe I could learn something about movie-making and from those teachings I could make my own movies and earn my own $1 million or 2 or 3…

the two million would solve a lot of my current problems but I still have to go with the (priceless) opportunity to work with Clint. :)
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Post by: KC on June 21, 2003, 09:25:50 PM
Oh man, I'm the wrong person to ask this of.  The only film composers I can name are the ones everybody knows -- all three or four of them. I love Jerry Goldsmith, but his music wouldn't really fit Clint's movies -- and I don't think he's even working anymore these days, is he?  However I just saw About Schmidt, and I noticed the music was very subdued, and quite reminded me of Clint's use of music.  According to IMDB, the original music is by Rolfe Kent and Erik Satie -- so maybe that would be a start.  
I don't think Satie (1866-1925) would accept the commission, Doug, but come to think of it ... he might be a better answer than Richard Wagner for the tag Xichado gave me about classical music to accompany a video of "highlights and best moments of Clint Eastwood’s career." ;)
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Post by: KC on June 21, 2003, 09:48:35 PM
KC
What 60's 70's or 80's film of Clint's do you think would of been interesting to see a sequel made?
Hmmm ... For a Few Dollars More? (Assuming it's the last in chronological order of the three "Dollars" films.)

It would have been interesting to see what he does with all that bounty money ... ;)

KC: Which Clint directed movie do you watch the least?
Probably Breezy, Doug ...  ;)



I'll try to post some more tags before this game ends tomorrow ... but sorry, not tonight.
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Post by: Doug on June 21, 2003, 10:10:37 PM
I don't think Satie (1866-1925) would accept the commission, Doug, but come to think of it ... he might be a better answer than Richard Wagner for the tag Xichado gave me about classical music to accompany a video of "highlights and best moments of Clint Eastwood’s career." ;)

Didn't pick up on the date of birth (and date of death) ... but I did only say it was a place to start! ;D  The other guy is still alive though.  And I recognize some of the movies he's worked on -- of course I did for the films Satie contributed to as well...  And hey, he's not going to get all egotistical all of a sudden, right?!

Breezy!  I should have worded that question differently, now I see.  But still it's a interesting answer -- considering I've never seen the movie.  
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Post by: mgk on June 22, 2003, 05:00:27 AM
 
mgk: You are allowed (say by a leprechaun  ;)) to spend a one week holiday with a female character of your choice. Who do you choose, and why?

If I'm going on a holiday for a whole week, then I'm going to want someone who is ready to have some fun.  But, of course, I have to like her, too.  When I think about "fun," I tend to think of Strawberry Alice (Frances Fisher) from Unforgiven, Gus Malley (Sondra Locke) from The Gauntlet and Sister Sara (Shirley MacLaine) from Two Mules For Sister Sara.  But, as I list all three of those, I suddenly realize that I have just picked three prostitutes. ;D  We never got to see Strawberry Alice have much fun...she was angry during most of the movie.  Gus Malley might be a handful to handle and I wouldn't want to have to do that for a whole week.  So, I think I would choose Sister Sara because she seemed to have a great sense of humor but maybe not as belligerent as the other two.

MGK
M, what scene in any Clint film has made you laugh the hardest?

The first scene that came to mind for me, Stranger, is the scene that many people have mentioned that they thought was also funny.  When Francesca (Meryl Streep) tells Robert (Eastwood) in The Bridges of Madison County that the flowers he has just picked for her are poisonous and Robert immediately drops them, then Francesca tells him that she was just kidding is a really funny scene.  And, it keeps on being funny because Francesca can't quit laughing and Robert just keeps giving her "that look" that says so many things....it says, "I can't believe you just said that;" it says, "I like your sense of humor;" and, it says, "I think we're going to get along just fine."  That was an enjoyable and funny scene for me.

MGK
Was it right for Lightfoot to die ?

That's a really tough question, Philo, and one I had to think about for a while.  I think Lightfoot did have to die at the end.  We, the audience, had come to like the relationship that Thunderbolt and Lightfoot had cultivated and we were enjoying the "buddy" film that was so unusual for an Eastwood movie.  We really liked both of these characters a lot.  But, the movie would have lost all of its "punch" if Lightfoot had lived.  When he died, it made us go back in our minds and relive everything that happened up to that point and it made us ask the same question you just asked me: "Why did he have to die?"  We also needed to see the genuine, caring feelings that Thunderbolt had developed for this man as his friend and we needed to see the surprise that Thunderbolt felt in losing him.  If he had lived, it would have been just another "buddy" film with a happy ending and would not be a movie that we gave much thought to.  It's a great movie just as it is.

I'll be back with some tags.
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Post by: Matt on June 22, 2003, 05:52:47 AM

Matt

Should there ever be a get together of Clint Eastwood board memebers ?

I think it would be a great idea, and I'd love to meet everyone.  On the other hand, because our members are really spread all over the globe, it would be a big commitment to ask of everyone in order to make it worthwhile.  We really only have, (I'm estimating all of these numbers) about 40 active members.  Of these, probably 10 are in the UK, 5 more are in other parts of Europe, 4 are in Canada, 1 is in Australia, 1 is in South America, and the rest are scattered over every point of the US.  I'm at one extreme... the furthest southeast you can get.  KC's at another extreme... northeast, AKA another extreme: southwest, MGK's in Texas... basically, the way I see it, most of us would have to travel a long, long distance, no matter where we hold it.  And that would be worthwhile if we'd get enough members who would do it.  So really, it would depend on the level of commitment from everyone that would determine if there should be a web board get-together or not.
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Post by: Matt on June 22, 2003, 06:03:15 AM

Matt:  Hollywood's current way is sequels, remakes, or comic books.
a. Which Clint film that wasn't should have been "sequelized"?
b. Which Clint film would stand up for a remake?
c. Which Clint character could be the star of a daily newspaper comic strip?

a)  Hmmmm...  well, I don't think I'd want to see any of the films sequelized that weren't, but if I must choose, I'll say Pale Rider only because that movie really seems like only one episode of what could be many.  Where is Preacher off to now?  Where will he be summoned next, and what wrongs will he right there.  It's a possibility, but I'm glad it wasn't done.

b)  I read that Clint was very, very unhappy with the way Kelly's Heroes came out.  He said the script for it was great, but the finished product was just a lot of laughs, and nothing like the serious, anti-war film that he had expected to make.  I wondered when I read that, if Clint had ever thought of re-doing it, this time the way it was originally supposed to have been made, and with himself directing it to protect that vision.  So, I suppose my answer would be Kelly's Heroes

c)  Well, there's a whole Dirty Harry line of books, so I can easily see it being made into a newspaper cartoon strip.  

Tags comin'...
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Post by: misty71 on June 22, 2003, 06:06:15 AM
Wow!Im gone for a day and this thread is 4 pages longer! ;D Ok thanks for the tag MC
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Misty71: Since viewing Dirty Harry and becoming a big Eastwood fan, have you watched any Eastwood films that you felt matched (or at least approached) the greatness of the original Dirty Harry?

Yes, of course yes! Everytime I watched a Clint movie afterwards, I was impressed all over again!(exept maybe by the rookie) I saw "in the line of fire" and again, my jaw dropped at the floor, it was just so good. then the enforcer and so on. Everytime I see a Clint movie for the first time, Im always amazed. You cant get used to quality like that!But I have to admit, dirty harry remains among my top 5!

Be back with tags
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Post by: Matt on June 22, 2003, 06:14:35 AM

Matt
If you was in a Bathroom with Clint.. ;D ;D relax, just kidding!
What 70's or 80's TV Series do you think Clint would of worked well in?-Stranger- ;)

Easy one!  Starsky and Hutch!  He'd be Starsky, and he'd work with David Soul (again).    And Lalo Schifrin worked on the theme song!  I loved this series growing up!

Cool car, too.
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Post by: misty71 on June 22, 2003, 06:15:27 AM
DOUG:Which Clint film, that he didnt direct, do you feel could have been even better if he had directed it and why?

MGK:A lot of things have been said about "what if clint made another western" Some say that he has made his farewell to the western with "unforgiven" others say that if he did it that time, theres no reason he could do one other great western. So where do you stand? would you like to see clint star in another western? and if so, what kind of character would you like him to play and why?
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Post by: mgk on June 22, 2003, 06:37:04 AM
Tags I owe:

1) DirtyDuffy45:  I just ran across this post of yours that shows that you like Eastwood's Pulovski character.

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Since your talkin best performance, Im goin with the Rookie! You all know the character was perfect! Pulovski's the man! great performance!

Is this accurate?  You really like Eastwood's Pulovski?  If so, what is it you like so much about him?

2) Matt: While we're talking about The Rookie, what actors and actresses has Eastwood used in his other films that you would replace the following characters with in hopes to make the movie a little better?

David Ackerman
Liesl
Strom

Or, do you feel it's an okay movie the way it is or do you feel, no matter who you put in there, it will never be a good movie?

3) zoso: Eastwood has had car trouble and has knocked on your door at 5:00 o'clock one night.  You help him make arrangements to have the car fixed but it won't be ready until noon tomorrow.  He tells you that he doesn't know where he's going to stay for the night so you invite him to stay at your house.  What will you do to entertain him that night and part of the next day?

4) D'Amb: Which of these characters would you most like the opportunity to play and why:

a) Jasper 'Buddy' Noone (Jeff Daniels) in Blood Work.
b) Jerry O'Neill (Donald Sutherland) in Space Cowboys.
c) Hull Barret (Michael Moriarty) in Pale Rider.
d) "Lasso" Leonard James (Sam Bottoms) in Bronco Billy.
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Post by: mgk on June 22, 2003, 06:46:42 AM
MGK:A lot of things have been said about "what if clint made another western" Some say that he has made his farewell to the western with "unforgiven" others say that if he did it that time, theres no reason he could do one other great western. So where do you stand? would you like to see clint star in another western? and if so, what kind of character would you like him to play and why?

The problem with Eastwood trying to make another western after Unforgiven is that finding a script that is better than or just as good as Unforgiven could prove impossible.  As a fan, I would love to see him keep making good movies so I would always wecome the opportunity to see him in another western or another drama or anything else that he thought would make an excellent movie.   Unforgiven is just going to be hard to top.  So, I guess, in spite of my desire to see him in another western,  I'd rather see him leave well enough alone and concentrate on something else.

I just posted four tags today; give me a few minutes to come up with two more.
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Post by: Matt on June 22, 2003, 06:47:22 AM
We'll be wrapping this game up tonight when we post the Dirty Harry discussion.  The way it will work... we'd still love everyone who has already been tagged to answer their tags, but after answering, they won't tag anyone else.  I think this game really can only run for about two weeks at a time before it starts to get really hard to keep fun and interesting.  We'll start up again in another 6-12 months.

Here's my four tags:

PHILO:  Instead of the more complex questions you've been getting... list in order, if you can, your top three favorite Clint Eastwood films and your bottom three  (least favorite) Clint Eastwood films.

STRANGER:  (See if this looks just a little familiar ;))  You are in a hotel, you have to visit the Toilet (Bathroom ???) You are amazed when you walk in there, Clint is using the urinal right at the end..
There are 25 urinals, leaving 24 urinals free to use.. Do you take that long long echoing walk down to where Clint is standing to use the Urinal next to Clint ? ;D ;D

(Told you I'd get you back for that one some day! ;D  Too bad Agent isn't around for me to hand him back his "you have diarrhea and need to go to the bathroom, but if you do, you'll miss meeting Clint" question. ;D)

ALLYCAT:  Since you're a Hitchcock fan, I'm going to borrow a question that KC asked me earlier in the game: Can you see Eastwood as the leading man in any existing Hitchcock movie (of the ones you've seen)? If so, which one? If not ... why not?

CHRISTOPHER:  (Since Agent isn't around... in honor of him! ;) )  You’re dining at the Hog’s Breath Inn while passing through Carmel, but unfortunately you’ve been having the “runs” lately, and the meal you’re eating causes your sensitive stomach to react, requiring your immediate attention. However, as you rise to your feet, Clint suddenly walks in for just a moment to say hello to some of the staff. Here’s your opportunity to meet him and perhaps even get his autograph, but doing so will mean certain disaster (and embarrassment). But you won’t get another chance like this again. What do you choose to do?

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Post by: Matt on June 22, 2003, 07:17:38 AM

2) Matt: While we're talking about The Rookie, what actors and actresses has Eastwood used in his other films that you would replace the following characters with in hopes to make the movie a little better?

David Ackerman
Liesl
Strom

Or, do you feel it's an okay movie the way it is or do you feel, no matter who you put in there, it will never be a good movie?


Yikes.... not to cop-out, but I really don't know enough actors and actresses that aren't the "big names" that I could fill not one, but three roles with.   :-\  

I think the film would have been better with these parts recast, but I couldn't begin to tell you who.  I'd like to see Strom and Liesl replaced with actors who looked like they could pass for Germans, but who?  I don't know.

Can I get a different question?  Please?  ;D
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Post by: mgk on June 22, 2003, 07:50:12 AM
Well, you wouldn't have even gotten this question if I hadn't posted one minute before you told us not to tag anyone.  So, I'll let you off the hook here.  Do you want to let me off the hook and I don't have to come up with another question for you? :-*  If not, let me put my thinking cap back on.
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Post by: MC on June 22, 2003, 07:59:12 AM

MC: I asked Matt this question but I knew what his answer was going to be.  ;)  Which of the seven new DVDs are you looking the most forward to seeing and/or owning?  City Heat, Honkytonk Man, Pink Cadillac, The Rookie, Tightrope, Where Eagles Dare, or White Hunter, Black Heart?

White Hunter, Black Heart is my favorite of the group, so that might seem like the obvious choice. But since I already own it on VHS and just rewatched it again last week, and since the DVD doesn't have any notable extras (what a wasted opportunity), I'm going to have to opt for another title...

The new DVD I'm most looking forward to seeing is Honkytonk Man because I've never seen it before (oh, the horror), and it'll be nice to see it for the first time in full DVD glory.

The new DVD I'm most looking forward to owning is Tightrope because it's probably my favorite Eastwood flick that isn't already in my collection. Ordinarily I only purchase "fully loaded" DVDs, but in this case I might have to make an exception since I don't already own the film -- and it is Eastwood, after all.
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Post by: Matt on June 22, 2003, 08:01:54 AM
Well, you wouldn't have even gotten this question if I hadn't posted one minute before you told us not to tag anyone.  So, I'll let you off the hook here.  Do you want to let me off the hook and I don't have to come up with another question for you? :-*  If not, let me put my thinking cap back on.

No, we're tagging until tonight.  When the Dirty Harry discussion is posted, we'll stop tagging here.  

Sooooooooo... hit me!  ;D
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Post by: MC on June 22, 2003, 08:05:48 AM
Tagging....

Brendan: In the Perfect World discussion, you stated that the film deserved Oscar nominations for Best Picture, Director, Actor (Costner), Screenplay and Cinematography (I agree with all five). What about a category you omitted, Best Supporting Actor? I know you feel Eastwood's performance was good-but-not-great, so I'm assuming you don't feel his perf was quite good enough to make the cut, but do you think T.J. Lowther's performance was impressive enough to warrant a Best Supporting Actor nomination?

mgk: What's the best back-to-back-to-back trio of films Eastwood has directed in his career, and what's the weakest threesome?
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Post by: mgk on June 22, 2003, 08:06:39 AM
I'd like to hit you, Matt, but I won't.  ;)

Give me a minute.
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Post by: mgk on June 22, 2003, 08:20:32 AM
mgk: What's the best back-to-back-to-back trio of films Eastwood has directed in his career, and what's the weakest threesome?

Wow!!  Sure wish I could do a four-some.  Okay, the best threesome in a row would probably have to be Unforgiven, In the Line of Fire, and A Perfect World.  (If you had let me have four, I woud have included The Bridges of Madison County.)

Now, for the worst threesome in a row, I think I would have to go with Any Which Way You Can, Firefox, and Honkytonk Man.

Now, I owe four tags counting the re-tag I have to do for Matt. >:(  Be right back.

This one doesn't count...see correct answer below. :P
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Post by: mgk on June 22, 2003, 08:37:40 AM
Tagging:

Matt:  What is your favorite "Tuco" scene in The Good, the Bad and the Ugly?  I know he's priceless all the way through that film but is there one time when you think he shines even more than all the other scenes?

Christopher:  We do love to pick on you about your like for Paint Your Wagon, don't we?  ;D What is your favorite scene in that whole (long) movie?

Brendon:  Have we heard your opinion on Blood Work?  Hope not but, if we have, could you tell me again? Did you like it?  Had you read the book before you saw it?

bcm: What are your four favorite roles that Eastwood has played throughout his career?
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Post by: Brendan on June 22, 2003, 08:40:48 AM
Brendan: In the Perfect World discussion, you stated that the film deserved Oscar nominations for Best Picture, Director, Actor (Costner), Screenplay and Cinematography (I agree with all five). What about a category you omitted, Best Supporting Actor? I know you feel Eastwood's performance was good-but-not-great, so I'm assuming you don't feel his perf was quite good enough to make the cut, but do you think T.J. Lowther's performance was impressive enough to warrant a Best Supporting Actor nomination?

Well first off to answer this I need to tell you who other supporting actor nominees were at the time (http://us.imdb.com/Sections/Years/1993/academy-awards):

Fugitive, The (1993) - Tommy Lee Jones  
In the Line of Fire (1993) - John Malkovich
In the Name of the Father (1993) - Pete Postlethwaite
Schindler's List (1993) - Ralph Fiennes
What's Eating Gilbert Grape (1993) - Leonardo DiCaprio

Now, Jones was awsome in The Fugitive and he deserved the win. Fiennes was amazing in Schindlers List and deserved that nomination along with Malkovich for his In the Line of Fire performance.

I havent seen the Postlethwaite or DiCaprio movies they were nominated for, but I'm going to assume that deserved it.

Clint's performance was good, but those three I mentioned before (Jones, Fiennes & Malkovich) were way better, and with three out of the five nominations taken already, I guess Clint wouldn't have gotten nominated anyway. T.J. Lowthers performance was good, but was it as good as those three guys? No.

Was it Oscar nomination good? Yes. Should he have gotten nominated? I suppose, but as we know, the Academy overlooks Clint the same amount of times they've screwed Scorsese out of the directing award.

Hope that answers your question.  :-\



misty71 - If you got the chance to play an extra in one of these movies: True Crime, Space Cowboys or Blood Work, which one would you pick? Why?

Matt - Suppose Eastwood did give in and made a movie with Arnold Schwarzenegger, what kind of movie would you want it to be and what would happen to the characters? Would they be teamed up? Or pitted against each other?
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Post by: Brendan on June 22, 2003, 08:48:26 AM
Brendon:  Have we heard your opinion on Blood Work?  Hope not but, if we have, could you tell me again? Did you like it?  Had you read the book before you saw it?

Actually I just re-posted a new review of Blood Work awhile ago, here (http://www.clinteastwood.org/forums/index.php?board=3;action=display;threadid=263;start=45).

I didnt entirely hate the movie, but I didn't entirely enjoy the movie either.

I had read the book before seeing the movie and I was furious as hell at the major changes that were made. I expect changes to be made going from book to screen, but wow, I wasn't expecting all that.

If Brian Helgaland had of stayed true to the book, than it would have been a much better movie. I couldn't beleive he changed the killer as well and turned it into a Hollywood cliche.

Comparing the book to the movie, the movie was garbage. Looking at it on its own, it was ok, but nothing special. A horrid supporting cast and big cliche, hurt the movie all around. It's a shame too. I was really looking forward to this movie being a Clint come-back sort of thing, ever since Space Cowboys rocked the box office.



mgk - I don't think I've tagged you at all, but if you were in a coffee shop (like Starbucks or something) and you heard someone talking bad about Eastwood like, "this movie sucked." or, "he should just retire.", what would you do? Would you say anything?
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Post by: mgk on June 22, 2003, 09:28:39 AM
mgk - I don't think I've tagged you at all, but if you were in a coffee shop (like Starbucks or something) and you heard someone talking bad about Eastwood like, "this movie sucked." or, "he should just retire.", what would you do? Would you say anything?

Actually, Brendan, I was really lucky this time.  I was at Starbucks with Matt and I didn't have to do a thing.  Matt took very good care of the problem and I didn't even have to open my mouth.....and, I'm sure glad, too. ;D I'm not fond of those kinds of confrontations so I was delighted to just watch. :)

MC:  Which Eastwood film do you think has the best ending?  Do you like one that sort of sums everything up or do you prefer an ending that makes you keep thinking long after you've finished the film?
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Post by: Matt on June 22, 2003, 09:31:31 AM
I was at Starbucks with Matt and I didn't have to do a thing.  Matt took very good care of the problem and I didn't even have to open my mouth.....and, I'm sure glad, too. ;D I'm not fond of those kinds of confrontations so I was delighted to just watch. :)

And I enjoyed it!  ;D
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Post by: Brendan on June 22, 2003, 09:53:09 AM
Actually, Brendan, I was really lucky this time.  I was at Starbucks with Matt and I didn't have to do a thing.  Matt took very good care of the problem and I didn't even have to open my mouth.....and, I'm sure glad, too. ;D I'm not fond of those kinds of confrontations so I was delighted to just watch. :)

MC:  Which Eastwood film do you think has the best ending?  Do you like one that sort of sums everything up or do you prefer an ending that makes you keep thinking long after you've finished the film?

Cool. Matt care to explain? You can PM me if you want or share it with the board. :)
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Post by: Matt on June 22, 2003, 10:23:50 AM
We were joking, it didn't happen. But I've had lots of practice defending the Yankees to my White Sox neighbor who loves to goad me with how Steinbrenner buys championships.  This would be a breeze in comparison.  I'd probably just keep asking him questions about why he thought this particular movie sucked.  If he was talking about the most recent, Blood Work, he might have some points.  But, I'd then have to ask him if he'd seen The Good, The Bad and The Ugly, Dirty Harry, Tightrope, Unforgiven, Thunderbolt and Lightfoot, High Plains Drifter, Escape from Alcatraz, The Beguiled, Play Misty for Me, White Hunter, Black Heart, In the Line of Fire, A Perfect World and The Bridges of Madison County.  I might ask him if he knows any other actor who not only stars in his films, but produces them, directs them, helps cast them, helps edit them and composes music to them.  I'd even ask him if he knows any other actor who's been successful in the business for five decades.  By then, I doubt he'd continue the argument.  ;)
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Post by: KC on June 22, 2003, 10:25:01 AM
Wow!!  Sure wish I could do a four-some.  Okay, the best threesome in a row would probably have to be Unforgiven, In the Line of Fire, and A Perfect World.  (If you had let me have four, I woud have included The Bridges of Madison County.)

Now, for the worst threesome in a row, I think I would have to go with Any Which Way You Can, Firefox, and Honkytonk Man.

Hmm, mg ... hate to nit pick, but the tag was to name "the best back-to-back-to-back trio of films Eastwood has directed in his career, and ... the weakest threesome." (Emphasis added.) I know you know Eastwood didn't direct In the Line of Fire or Any Which Way You Can ... So? ;)
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Post by: mgk on June 22, 2003, 10:28:47 AM
Geez....my first answer was hard enough. ::)

Okay, guess I better do it right.  Thanks, KC.
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Post by: KC on June 22, 2003, 10:32:53 AM
Actually, I just made it a bit easier for you ... the first part, anyway! ;)
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Post by: mgk on June 22, 2003, 10:48:45 AM
I noticed that but the last part is awful to have to choose from....guess I can't include the "Amazing Stories" TV series, can I?
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Post by: mgk on June 22, 2003, 10:50:49 AM
mgk: What's the best back-to-back-to-back trio of films Eastwood has directed in his career, and what's the weakest threesome?

Okay, let me do this right and choose from his directed only back-to-back-to-back best trio and weakest trio.

Best:  The Bridges, of Madison County, A Perfect World, and Unforgiven.  

Ahhhhh....not fair; this is too hard!!!

Weakest:  The Rookie, White Hunter, Black Heart and Bird.

I really didn't want to have to include White Hunter, Black Heart.  :'( :'( :'(

Retagging MC with the same question:

Which Eastwood film do you think has the best ending?  Do you like one that sort of sums everything up or do you prefer an ending that makes you keep thinking long after you've finished the film?

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Post by: Xichado on June 22, 2003, 10:59:17 AM
Xichado- What you favorite scene in Blood Work?Why?

Hi Aline, glad to see you around.

I have two favorite scenes, one is scene when Terry McCaleb is pursuing the code killer thru the back alleys and that chase will cause McCaleb’s stroke and will redefine the man that he used to be.

(http://bloodworkmovie.warnerbros.com/img/photogallery/photos/picture16.jpg)

(Picture taken from the Blood Work site, here (http://bloodworkmovie.warnerbros.com))

The other scene I like (I don’t have a picture for it though, but it’s the scene that starts at 1:20:44 accordingly to my dvd counter), it’s the scene when Terry McCaleb is standing in front of the mirror and looking at his scar. The reason why I like Blood Work it’s because of the emotional struggle of having a strong spirit confined to a not-so-strong body (heart). And I love those few seconds when we see McCaleb approaching the mirror, almost as if he is afraid of his own reflection, of his scar, of his confinement.

In this scene, not a word is spoken, yet so much –from my point of view- is revealed and said about McCaleb’s emotional struggle. I have been talking with mgk about moments like this in CE movies and I started to mention them as “Visual Poetry”.
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Post by: the stranger on June 22, 2003, 11:30:11 AM
from Matt
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STRANGER:  (See if this looks just a little familiar )  You are in a hotel, you have to visit the Toilet (Bathroom ) You are amazed when you walk in there, Clint is using the urinal right at the end..
There are 25 urinals, leaving 24 urinals free to use.. Do you take that long long echoing walk down to where Clint is standing to use the Urinal next to Clint ?  

(Told you I'd get you back for that one some day!   Too bad Agent isn't around for me to hand him back his "you have diarrhea and need to go to the bathroom, but if you do, you'll miss meeting Clint" question. )

YES Without a doubt I would! ;D ;D ;D ;D
You know me Bruv, I'd do anything for a laugh!
Hell, I might even sneak a peek, and probably ask him if there is a Gay subtext in Thunderbolt! (probably not the ideal place to ask), but hell, you know me too well! ;D
Ha ha ha, back with a Tag later.
-Stranger-
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Post by: KC on June 22, 2003, 11:49:49 AM
I think I owe about six tags. Going to try to get them in at the last minute ... anyone being tagged who wants to hold his/her answer till the tagging period is over, is welcome! ;)

Aline: Wonderful to see you here. What female character in an Eastwood film would you have liked to play? You can take into account the amount of screen time you'd have shared with Clint! ;)

Xichado: Glad to see you stick up for Blood Work. I liked it too, precisely for the kind of "visual poetry" moments you mentioned ... Eastwood's characters bear scars (physical, often psychological as well) in a lot of his movies. In films other than Blood Work, can you think of a scene involving a scar that you especially admire?

Conan: You've decided to train to run a marathon. Which character from an Eastwood movie (played by Clint, or someone else) would you like as a training partner?

misty71: You answered my question about getting a copy of a wardrobe item from an Eastwood film the way I probably would have ... by selecting a couple of items worn by Clint. (I've always liked that red-brown "Enforcer" jacket, as well ... ;) ). I'll ask it again, with a twist ...

You can have an exact copy of any wardrobe item worn by a female character from any Eastwood movie ... in your size. What would it be?

Matt: You're at a Yankees-Devil Rays game in your Jason Giambi road jersey ... Clint enters the stadium and sits down near you. He's wearing a Rocco Baldelli jersey. He turns to you and makes some remark about the Yankees buying championships ... what do you say? ;)

eustressor: There were two scenes in Peoples's Unforgiven script that were filmed, but not used ... a brief flashback showing a younger Munny beating a horse (this would have come just after the "fever delirium" scene after Munny is beaten by Little Bill, following the line "Don't tell nobody ... don't tell my kids ... none of the things I done"), and a "homecoming" scene, showing Munny embracing his children and assuring his son that he "didn't kill nobody." Do you think Eastwood's decision to omit these scenes was correct? Would you like to see them included on a special-edition DVD?
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Post by: Matt on June 22, 2003, 12:10:45 PM
Tagging:

Matt:  What is your favorite "Tuco" scene in The Good, the Bad and the Ugly?  I know he's priceless all the way through that film but is there one time when you think he shines even more than all the other scenes?

That's more like it!  I can answer this one. :)

It's the scene at the mission where we really get to understand Tuco, and Wallach is fantastic in it.  When he first sees his brother:

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(Tuco looks inside the mission, sees his brother and hesitates, not knowing if he'd be welcome.  He gathers his courage and enters.)  

TUCO:  Hey, Pablo!

(Brother Ramirez turns slowly, seeing Tuco, and doesn't respond)

TUCO:  (Laughing)  Don't you recognize me?  It's me!  Tuco! (He approaches his brother, and goes to put his arms around him)  Let me embrace you!  (Tuco stops, seeing his unmoved brother, and looks down at his holy robes.)  I don't know the right thing!  (He kneels down and kisses the tasseled rope of the priest garments)  I was passing by here, I said to myself "I wonder if my brother remembers his brother!"  (He laughs, uncertain, asking quietly) Did I do wrong?  (Under the steely glare of his brother, Tuco tries to ease the tension and continues jovially)  It doesn't matter--I'm very happy!

BROTHER RAMIREZ:  You've seen me Tuco.

TUCO:  Yeah, well, I'm very glad I came!  (Sees his brother looking him over disapprovingly, he continues in a happy tone) Oh, my uniform!  It's a long story!  Let's talk about you, it's more important.  You look very well!  Mmmm a bit thin, perhaps, but (laughs) you were always thin, eh Pablito?  (Still seeing no reaction from his brother, he continues quieter) What about our parents?

BROTHER RAMIREZ: Only now do you think of them, to begin after nine years.

TUCO:  Nine years?  So it's been nine years!  Nine years! (Laughs to cover his guilt)  

BROTHER RAMIREZ:  Our mother has been dead a long time now.  Our father died only a few days ago.  That's why I was away.  He asked for you to be there, but there was only me.

(Tuco, obviously devastated, turns and walks away, hiding his face as he cries)

BROTHER RAMIREZ:  And you?  Outside of evil, what else have you managed to do?  It seems to me you once had a wife someplace.

TUCO: (Turns back around, hiding the fact that he had been crying, he answers angrily and defensively)  Not one, lots of them!  One here, one there, wherever I found them! Go on, preach me a sermon, Pablo.

BROTHER RAMIREZ:  (Shakes head)  What good would that be?  Just keep on the way you're going.  Go away... and the Lord have mercy on your soul.

TUCO:  I'll go!  I'll go!  While I'm waiting for the Lord to remember me, I, Tuco Ramirez, brother of Brother Ramirez, will tell you something.  You think you're better than I am?  Where we came from, if one did not want to die of poverty, one became a priest or a bandit.  You chose your way, I chose mine.  Mine was harder!  You talk of our mother and father!  You remember when you left to become a priest I stayed behind!  I must have been ten, twelve, I don't remember which, but I stayed!  I tried, but it was no good!  Now I am going to tell you something... you became a priest because you were too much of a coward to do what I do.

Brother Ramirez slaps Tuco across the face. Tuco throws a punch and knocks his brother down.  Tuco helps him back to his feet, and begins to leave.

BROTHER RAMIREZ:  Tuco!  (Tuco stops, very upset, and then continues out.)  Please forgive me, brother.

Tuco mounts the wagon where Blondie, who had heard everything, is waiting.  As the horses pull the wagon from the mission, Tuco thinks over what had happened.

TUCO:  Ehhh, my belly's full!  Nice guy, my brother!  I didn't tell you my brother was in charge here?  Everything!  Like the Pope almost!  He's in charge in Rome.  My brother says to me, "Stay brother, don't go home.  We never see each other.  Here!  There's plenty to eat and drink.  Bring your friend too!" (Tuco laughs)  Whenever we see each other, he never lets me go.  It's always the same story.  (Laughs again)  That's so.  Even a tramp like me, no matter what happens, I know there's a brother somewhere who will never refuse me a bowl of soup.

BLONDIE:  (Thoughtfully)  Sure.  Well after a meal, there's nothing like a good cigar.  

(Blondie takes the cigar from his mouth and passes it to Tuco.  Tuco looks at it a moment, still thinking over everything that had happened.  He takes it, puffs on it, and then as the steady beat of the hooves pull them further from the mission, he puts it out of his mind, smiling now... as he returns to the life of a bandit.)
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Post by: Matt on June 22, 2003, 12:27:44 PM

Matt - Suppose Eastwood did give in and made a movie with Arnold Schwarzenegger, what kind of movie would you want it to be and what would happen to the characters? Would they be teamed up? Or pitted against each other?

They'd be pitted against each other, with Schwarzenegger as the bad guy.  In the end... Clint would gun him down.  ;D
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Post by: Matt on June 22, 2003, 12:42:58 PM
Matt: You're at a Yankees-Devil Rays game in your Jason Giambi road jersey ... Clint enters the stadium and sits down near you. He's wearing a Rocco Baldelli jersey. He turns to you and makes some remark about the Yankees buying championships ... what do you say? ;)

This would be fun.  A debate with Clint! :D

First, I'd have to express disbelief that he was a Devil Rays fan.  Liking the underdog is one thing, but isn't that going a bit far? ;)

I'd probably get into it with him then, reminding him of all the home-grown talent the Yanks have that have won them the championships: Tino Martinez, Bernie Williams, Derek Jeter, Mariano Rivera, and Jorge Posada.  I'd say that one of our best players this year was Nick Johnson and that he came up through our farm, and I'd point out that Juan Rivera was another that we're still developing.  

Then, Clint might do the "White Sox neighbor thing" and say "And Giambi? Matsui? Roger Clemens..."

And I'd say, "So what? It's not like we're the only team that buys free agents.  Atlanta's got a sky-high payroll, they can't win a championship.  The Mets and Rangers buy playesr, they're at the bottom of their leagues.  If Steinbrenner wants to invest in his team because he wants to win, then what's wrong with that?  If more owners did the same, then they'd have better teams that could beat ours. Instead of blaming Steinbrenner for investing in his team, blame the other team owners that pocket the profits!

And can I buy you a beer, Clint?  :D
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Post by: Xichado on June 22, 2003, 12:52:00 PM
They'd be pitted against each other, with Schwarzenegger as the bad guy.  In the end... Clint would gun him down.  ;D

What about T4? But Clint would play a bad machine (instead of a good one and he could use his present looks to identify him as a wiser and smarter machine) that would gun down Schwarzenegger (the good machine) and go after Connor and since Connor couldn't stand a change, Clint would take over the (machine) world.  ;)

Oh, and maybe Clint's machine can be named the Cyborg With No Name.

I'm just kidding, I love the Terminator movies.
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Post by: bcm on June 22, 2003, 01:27:00 PM
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bcm: What are your four favorite roles that Eastwood has played throughout his career?

Hey, if you had only asked for one, it would have been easier  ;)  And, please don't forget that I have only seen part of his movies ;)
1) Robert Kincaid (that was easy  :D)
Bronco Billy  The preacher  and William Munny  share second place

ok, now for tags for those who still have energy left.
KC: I did like your smilie, but I'll ask the same question again. But this time it will be an easy, broad path, like in the picture.
(http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~jkornblu/photos/hike_7_9_00/IMAGE021.jpg)
AND: Clint promises to hold you by your hand if you are scared  :D will you agree now?
eustressor: Admit you are travelling in Paris, and you see that they show Unforgiven in a theater.Will you take the opportunity and watch it on big sreen? Remember, the film will be shown in french, with french voices (not Eastwood or Hackman or...speaking)
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Post by: Matt on June 22, 2003, 01:27:54 PM
TAGGING....

MC: Clint sees the music video that you directed and meets with you to discuss working as a crewmember on his next film.  In the interview, he asks you to name some of the directors who have influenced you, and what it is about their styles that you admire.  Who would you name, and if you include Clint, what would you say to him that you admire about his directing?  

bcm:  Of all the Eastwood films you've seen so far, which one did you like the least? What was it about the film that you didn't like?

Brendan:  You're at a Nascar event, and you see Jeff Gordon and Clint Eastwood both leaving the event in opposite directions at the same time.  If you hurry, you have the opportunity to meet and talk with one of them.  Which do you choose?
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Post by: Christopher on June 22, 2003, 01:33:06 PM
Stranger asked me if I could change the ending to any Eastwood movie, what would it be and why. I'll think about that one a little more, and try to get a response up soon.
CHRISTOPHER:  (Since Agent isn't around... in honor of him! ;) )  You're dining at the Hog's Breath Inn while passing through Carmel, but unfortunately you've been having the "runs" lately, and the meal you're eating causes your sensitive stomach to react, requiring your immediate attention. However, as you rise to your feet, Clint suddenly walks in for just a moment to say hello to some of the staff. Here's your opportunity to meet him and perhaps even get his autograph, but doing so will mean certain disaster (and embarrassment). But you won't get another chance like this again. What do you choose to do?
My, what would one do in such a situation? I might say "Hey" to him as I walked towards the restroom.
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Post by: Matt on June 22, 2003, 01:39:31 PM
Christopher, where did all those numbers come from in the quote?  See if you can edit them out, or if it's a board problem.
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Post by: bcm on June 22, 2003, 01:45:20 PM
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bcm:  Of all the Eastwood films you've seen so far, which one did you like the least? What was it about the film that you didn't like?

ouch, I'm gonna have to step on some toes...
There's a close run between Firefox and Heartbreak Ridge. Which one is worse? I have only seen Firefox once, but I guess I like it less. I've read in this taggame that there are apparently two different lengths of the movie around. Since the version I have runs 120min, I guess it must be the shorter one. So maybe they've taken out the good moments  ;) But basically I found this a very flat story, no character development (or hardly any), the plot is VERY unlikely, the good easily wins in the end.... just not my kind of movie, sorry. But, maybe, in the film discussion you can show me that I'm wrong  :D
AKA: Instead of my other, unclear question: what is your least favorite Eastwood character, and why?
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Post by: Christopher on June 22, 2003, 01:50:19 PM
Christopher:  We do love to pick on you about your like for Paint Your Wagon, don't we?  ;D What is your favorite scene in that whole (long) movie?
I don't really have a "favorite scene" from Paint Your Wagon (I don't have favorite scenes in a lot of movies). In fact, right now, nothing is really sticking out in my mind (long time since I've seen it) Let's see here: I really like Lee Marvin and Eastwood's scenes together. I like Eastwood's "Gold Fever" song. Pretty much any scene with Jean Seburg in it. ;D

I've always been kind of surprised by people reactions to Paint. It's long, yes (about as long as GBU I might add), but it has colorful characters, enjoyable songs, and as I said, I really like the actors in the film.

Here's one of the tags I owe: Matt: I remember you saying that you watched The Gauntlet over and over again until you finally got it and understood why so many people liked it (Honestly, I wasn't aware so many people liked it). Would you ever consider giving Paint Your Wagon the same possibility? (I like The Gauntlet, but it's no where near one of my favorites, and since I seem to be in the minority for liking PYW, I figured this could be a decent question. And yes, I realize not a lot of people talk about how great PYW is)
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Post by: Matt on June 22, 2003, 01:54:12 PM
I edited it.  Every apostrophe brought up a set of numbers and symbols.  Strange.  ???
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Post by: Christopher on June 22, 2003, 01:56:17 PM
I edited it.  
Me too. :D
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Post by: Matt on June 22, 2003, 02:02:46 PM
Matt: I remember you saying that you watched The Gauntlet over and over again until you finally got it and understood why so many people liked it (Honestly, I wasn't aware so many people liked it). Would you ever consider giving Paint Your Wagon the same possibility? (I like The Gauntlet, but it's no where near one of my favorites, and since I seem to be in the minority for liking PYW, I figured this could be a decent question. And yes, I realize not a lot of people talk about how great PYW is)

No.  Even when watching The Gauntlet the first few times, it was only a few scenes that I didn't like, and the rest of it was okay.  I've seen Paint Your Wagon two or three times now, and instead of getting better with each viewing, it's gotten harder and harder for me to get through it.  I don't like the characters, the story, the songs, anything.  For me, there's no saving grace in this film, not even Clint's performance.  There's no hope for me to like this movie, no matter what.
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Post by: Matt on June 22, 2003, 02:08:51 PM
TAGGING....

JOEY:  If you were in charge of picking five of Clint's movies for us to watch on the big screen at an Eastwood Web Board Convention, which five would you choose?  
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Post by: the stranger on June 22, 2003, 02:20:55 PM
Just to let you know Chris, I love paint your Wagon ;)
Always have, always will.
-Stranger-
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Post by: philo on June 22, 2003, 02:22:44 PM
From Matt :

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PHILO:  Instead of the more complex questions you've been getting... list in order, if you can, your top three favorite Clint Eastwood films and your bottom three  (least favorite) Clint Eastwood films.

I prefer the complex ones  8)

Dirty Harry
The outlaw Josey Wales
Every which way but loose

Unforgiven
City heat
The Rookie


Thanks for the great game everybody .


Philo .

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Post by: zoso on June 22, 2003, 02:26:16 PM
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   zoso:  Which co-star that Clint has worked with has been your least favorite, and why?
    i think my least favorite co-star has to be tyne daly so far. i realize cagney and lacey came after the enforcer but  seeing the movie for the first time long after the show's run, i couldn't get past her role as one of the two cops, cagney or lacey, whoever she played.
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Post by: zoso on June 22, 2003, 02:36:32 PM
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3) zoso: Eastwood has had car trouble and has knocked on your door at 5:00 o'clock one night.  You help him make arrangements to have the car fixed but it won't be ready until noon tomorrow.  He tells you that he doesn't know where he's going to stay for the night so you invite him to stay at your house.  What will you do to entertain him that night and part of the next day?
   
    that's an interesting question mgk  :) well, i guess a man's gotta eat so provided it wasn't in the middle of winter, i'd fire up the bar-b-q and cook my specialty, steaks marinated in beer all afternoon. then i suppose i'd let him pick through my c.d. collection all night and d.j. the evening if he wanted. though i'm afraid i don't have any jazz selections for him, i do have some ray charles, louis armstrong amongst a few others in my meager blues collection.
     as for the next morning, i'd book an early enough tee-time and promptly begin my butt-kicking on the links. i guess that may sound a little boring but i'm not much of a club person or a crowd guy for that matter.
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Post by: zoso on June 22, 2003, 02:39:06 PM
 matt, mgk and christopher      seeing as time is a little of the essence here, i'll pose the same car trouble question to you three. thanks for the tags btw.
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Post by: Matt on June 22, 2003, 02:41:22 PM
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Eastwood has had car trouble and has knocked on your door at 5:00 o'clock one night.  You help him make arrangements to have the car fixed but it won't be ready until noon tomorrow.  He tells you that he doesn't know where he's going to stay for the night so you invite him to stay at your house.  What will you do to entertain him that night and part of the next day?

That's easy!  I'd set him up on the computer and have him join the web board and do a Q&A session. :)

Just realized I have to fill the morning too... well, I'd take him to the Everglades for an airboat ride.  He'd probably like that.  
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Post by: KC on June 22, 2003, 02:52:43 PM
KC: I did like your smilie, but I'll ask the same question again. But this time it will be an easy, broad path, like in the picture. ...AND: Clint promises to hold you by your hand if you are scared  :D will you agree now?
(http://forums.nyyfans.com/images/smilies/love-struck.gif)  ;)
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Post by: Christopher on June 22, 2003, 03:02:42 PM
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Eastwood has had car trouble and has knocked on your door at 5:00 o'clock one night.  You help him make arrangements to have the car fixed but it won't be ready until noon tomorrow.  He tells you that he doesn't know where he's going to stay for the night so you invite him to stay at your house.  What will you do to entertain him that night and part of the next day?
I don't suppose he'd want to pick a movie from my Eastwood collection and sit and do a running commentary of the film as we watched it, would he? ;) :D

Or perhaps I'd have another movie he'd want to watch. If I could, I'd love to watch a movie with him. Obviously, I'd want to feed him (though, I'm no cook). Maybe it'd be nice just to sit around and talk for a little while.

I've got a few tags to catch up on...
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Post by: mgk on June 22, 2003, 03:05:27 PM
Good idea, Matt (re zoso's tag).  I don't think I can come up with anything better than getting him to sit down at the computer and join our discussions.  I would, however, try to find some healthy dinner to serve him that fits into all those categories to help him stay "young."

As for the next morning, I would be stuck here trying to find something to talk about for about four hours since there is absolutely nothing in this town that he would like to see.  :-\
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Post by: Christopher on June 22, 2003, 03:14:03 PM
tagging

MGK: To steal a question from Matt...list in order, if you can, your top three favorite Clint Eastwood films and your bottom three  (least favorite) Clint Eastwood films.

AKA: What's your least favorite Eastwood movie? (I don't know if you've said, or if you have, I can't remember)

BCM: Who is your least favorite character that Eastwood has played?
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Post by: eustressor on June 22, 2003, 03:23:06 PM
I've seen Paint Your Wagon two or three times now, and instead of getting better with each viewing, it's gotten harder and harder for me to get through it.  I don't like the characters, the story, the songs, anything.  For me, there's no saving grace in this film, not even Clint's performance.  There's no hope for me to like this movie, no matter what.

Guess the pin finally fell out of that doll  ;)
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Post by: mgk on June 22, 2003, 03:29:32 PM
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MGK: To steal a question from Matt...list in order, if you can, your top three favorite Clint Eastwood films and your bottom three  (least favorite) Clint Eastwood films.

The "if you can" part hints that I will have trouble doing this and you are right.  But, as of today here are my two lists:

Top three favorite Eastwood films:

The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
Unforgiven
A Perfect World

Bottom three (least favorite) Eastwood films:

City Heat
The Rookie
Paint Your Wagon ***sorry***
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Post by: Matt on June 22, 2003, 03:52:20 PM
TAGGING....

MERIDICO:  We haven't seen you around in a while, so thought I'd try to get you back here with a tag!

Suppose you wanted to show an Eastwood film to a friend who doesn't think much of him as an actor, which film would you choose?  
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Post by: Christopher on June 22, 2003, 03:59:21 PM
Christopher
If you could change an ending to any Clint film, which one and why?
Finally thought of one. The Gauntlet. I don't care much for Ben and Gus walking off after Gus has just shot someone. I realize all the other police would certainly be stunned as to what just happened, but I'd buy it a little better if one of the cops had done the shootin' rather than Gus, and then when Ben and Gus walk off and all the cops are dumbfounded, you wouldn't think, "What the heck are they doin...?"
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Post by: Christopher on June 22, 2003, 04:10:25 PM
Brendan: How many Eastwood films haven't you seen yet and what are they?
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Post by: eustressor on June 22, 2003, 04:24:48 PM
It's always tough for me to try to assess the influence of the director in a film. Who's to say how much of that influence is in the finished product of the film. I think as a lay person, and somebody who doesn't necessarily have a great conception of the duties of a director, the importance of a director to the overall feel of the film and the project in general, sometimes it seems as if I don't necessarily know what was the directorial touch that Eastwood added, the thing that was different, how much of the general aura of the film would be different had he not been a part of it ...it's difficult to assess what kind of an impact was made day to day and in the overall realization of the vision of a particular film. Does this make sense to you?

Perfectly. Minus external information (i.e., interviews, documentaries, industry word-of-mouth) it is difficult sometimes to pin down the less tangible elements a director like Eastwood brings to a film. Film is of course a visual medium, and perhaps with a director like Kubrick or Spielberg it's more obvious, but Clint is a master of subtlety. It's a safe bet my own grasp on just what it means to direct a motion picture is pretty far from the reality...

What do you agree with? What do you disagree with, and how would you answer the same question?

Regarding the original question: summed up as, "What movie do you think would have suffered the most minus Clint as a director, and are there any you feel would have been better without him sitting in the Big Chair?"

I agree that the two films which would suffer the most would be Unforgiven and A Perfect World. I wouldn't presume to think that I could phrase my reasons, which are mostly the same as yours, half so well as you did:

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...I think either Unforgiven or A Perfect World would probably have suffered the most without Clint as a director. In the case of Unforgiven , this was the film that led people to respect Eastwood more as a director, so you've got to acknowledge that the film was very well directed, and not only that, but that had Eastwood not been involved in the directing of this picture, it may have been very very different. It's possible that somebody else directing the film might not have had the same passion for the story, the same resolve to do it right, or the same vision with respect to the film. Another director might have tried to make the William Munny character more sympathetic, feeling that he was too amoral to connect with audiences who were looking for a more traditionalist western where the good guy triumphs over evil. Another director might have left the ending less ambiguous, might have included the homecoming scene, might have included a few scenes about Munny's past, might have given us more backgroud, more of a sense of who this person was before Claudia. Another director might not have had the sense to recognize the brilliance in David Webb People's script, might have changed it around, might have added too much, taken away too much. Another director might not have had the sense or the inclination to put on film what already worked as a script. In trying to improve on it, another director could have changed some of the things that made it work, making it worse, and not better. For all these reasons, and more, Clint Eastwood's Unforgiven in large part because it is just that, Clint Eastwood's Unforgiven . If it had been somebody else's Unforgiven, if they had the opportunity to put forth their own vision, it could have been a very different film, having suffered greatly.

...A Perfect World works in large part again because of Eastwood's part as director. A lot of it is highly stylized, some would say more than most of Clint's self-directed films, and for that reason alone, for that presence of an abundance of directorial touches here and there that combine together to contribute to this fully realized whole, the film would have suffered greatly without Clint as director. Not only this, but due to the co-starring role of Clint in this one, his role as director was far more important than his role as an actor. His impact on the production as director/producer far outshadowed, in my mind anyway, his role as an actor. It could be argued that a fair number of people COULD have possibly played the Red Garnett character, perhaps differently, perhaps not as well as Eastwood, but it can be argued that perhaps only Eastwood could have it realized in the way that he did as director. It can also be argued quite well that one of the strongest points of the film, the acting, was related to Eastwood's ability to get the most effective and the best performance out of both Kevin Costner and the little boy who played Philip. I don't think just anybody could have gotten those performances out of the actors. Just looking at Kevin Costner's range of performances, with a different director, we could have had a very different performance. Eastwood was able to get the best out of Costner. With another director, without that passion and that ability, who knows what we might have seen on the screen from principal actors in the film.

That was a great post, AKA, and I hope we'll see even more of your thoughtful insight in upcoming film discussions. :)

As to which Eastwood film might actually benefit from Clint not being the director, I'm going to go WAAAYYY out on a limb here, step on some toes, and guarantee a lukewarm reception at the CEDB convention by saying The Outlaw Josie Wales. Granted, I haven't seen the film as an adult, but as an early teenager I probably watched it five or six times, and each time, I couldn't help thinking that the movie was just a little, little bit too corny. A violent tale about betrayal, revenge, and wrongful persecution, set against the aftermath of the American Civil War, and Sandra Locke shoots two fellows out of their horses with one shot? Maybe I remember incorrectly, but that memory has stayed with me as a kind of marker of the playful undercurrent, throughout the film, that to me did the potential impact of the movie a disservice, however minor. The playful undertone, in my opinion, should have begun and ended with Chief Dan George, who was brilliantly cast. Perhaps another director would have refrained from the almost "Gee this is kinda fun" air that crept in during the aforementioned log cabin shootout, where Ms. Locke displayed such fortuitous marksmanship.

Keep in mind that I really do have fond memories of Josie Wales, but if I had to nail down one film that I've seen which might have actually benefited under another director, that would be the one.

I've got a few more questions to answer - I'll try to get my tags out shortly!
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Post by: Brendan on June 22, 2003, 05:23:18 PM
Brendan: How many Eastwood films haven't you seen yet and what are they?

Theres ten Eastwood films I havent seen yet:

The Witches
Paint Your Wagon
Two Mules for Sister Sara
The Beguiled
Joe Kidd
Breezy
Bronco Billy
Honkytonk Man
City Heat
Bird

And I've alot of other ones just once. So I cant really remember them all that good.

Brendan:  You're at a Nascar event, and you see Jeff Gordon and Clint Eastwood both leaving the event in opposite directions at the same time.  If you hurry, you have the opportunity to meet and talk with one of them.  Which do you choose?

This is THE hardest question I have gotten so far. Now since I know you haven't been to a NASCAR event, I know how to answer this. Jeff would be in the garage/driver area, where fans arent aloud. Also, if he was leaving the track he would be in his SUV been driven by someone else, so I wouldnt actually get to see him in the SUV. But Clint, I would assume, would just leave in some big Cadillac, and I would get to see him. So I would probably go for Clint, becuase I know he would be the easiest to try and stop and talk for a bit.

Now, if I happend to get into the garage area and saw Jeff going for his trailer or team hauler and I saw Clint heading towards his car, thats tough. Really tough.

Now theres two options here.

1. Goto Jeff and act as normal as I possibly can and try and convince him that I want to race and see if he can hook me up with some job at Hendrick Motorsports where I will eventually get to race.

2. Goto Clint and tell him I'm in a film program and that its all becuase of him I'm in that program and that I really want to work in the film industry and I respect him and his work. Hopefully then, he would talk with me a bit and offer me a small job (doing whatever) on his next film.

Both oppurtunities are hard to pass up. Now, putting alot of thought into this, going with Clint and the film industry thing would get me closer to my love, Natalie Portman. And it also has the most realistic out come between the two.

So, in a massive final decision, I would go for Clint.

Ah man that was really hard.


Christopher - What Eastwood films havent you seen yet?
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Post by: Christopher on June 22, 2003, 06:15:47 PM
Both oppurtunities are hard to pass up. Now, putting alot of thought into this, going with Clint and the film industry thing would get me closer to my love, Natalie Portman. And it also has the most realistic out come between the two.
Emphasis added on the part I wasn't expecting when I read that. ;D

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Christopher - What Eastwood films havent you seen yet?
I haven't seen any of the Pre-Fistful of Dollars movies, or The Witches, or Breezy.
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Post by: eustressor on June 22, 2003, 06:17:01 PM
There were two scenes in Peoples's Unforgiven script that were filmed, but not used ... a brief flashback showing a younger Munny beating a horse (this would have come just after the "fever delirium" scene after Munny is beaten by Little Bill, following the line "Don't tell nobody ... don't tell my kids ... none of the things I done"), and a "homecoming" scene, showing Munny embracing his children and assuring his son that he "didn't kill nobody." Do you think Eastwood's decision to omit these scenes was correct?

Great question, KC. I suspect it's no surprise to anyone here that I think every decision Eastwood made regarding this film was correct. This would be no exception for me.

I think the reasons these two scenes would have lessened such a perfect film are both tied into that beautiful opening and ending "crawl" ("She was a comely young woman, and not without prospects...")

To my memory, there are no flashbacks in the film, so to include a flashback, even if it were a fevered dream sequence, would have greatly reduced the immediacy of the movie. Why not flashback to Little Bill's past, say the Corky Corchoran bit? Why not give us a look at Claudia, so we could better understand her ability to tame this "known thief and murderer"?. No, any and all relevant history that is not given in the course of the film, through the dialogue or other subtle implications, is perfectly framed in that opening crawl. From that point on the film moves in real time, making the climax seem more imminent, more ominous. Any flashback would have detracted from that dark cloud, and the momentum with which Munny is being cast into a reckoning with his past.

As for the homecoming sequence, again, no. It was a good call to end the movie exactly as it began, with the haunting crawl over Claudia's grave. To resolve Munny's violent regression with his new life as a father would lessen the impact of that final shootout. No need to water it down or make it safer for Hollywood. Munny rides off into the rain-soaked night and, beyond the brief mention of "dry goods" in the ending words, it is up to the viewer to decide how he reconciled his actions with his duties as a father.

Would you like to see them included on a special-edition DVD?

I love the anniversary edition of Unforgiven. Sure, these scenes would be great, someday I'd like to be privileged to see them. But the only thing I really missed on this DVD is that elusive documentary I referenced way back when on my first thread (http://www.clinteastwood.org/forums/index.php?board=3;action=display;threadid=785) as a member here - you know, THAT documentary ;)
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Post by: KC on June 22, 2003, 06:39:16 PM
Excellent reply, eustressor!
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Post by: eustressor on June 22, 2003, 08:52:34 PM
Admit you are travelling in Paris, and you see that they show Unforgiven in a theater.Will you take the opportunity and watch it on big sreen? Remember, the film will be shown in french, with french voices (not Eastwood or Hackman or...speaking)

I should be clear: I would watch Unforgiven on a black and white Gameboy (w/ several dead pixels) dubbed in Esperanto with the voices so out of sync they make the worst dub-job in a spaghetti western look like fine Swiss Precision, with heiroglyphs for subtitles - gladly :)

Therefore...

I'd love to watch it in Paris, with dubbed French voices. I'd grab myself a bucket of escargots and pommes frites and sit and marvel at the visual splendor of this classic on the BIG screen. Plus, since I almost have the dialogue memorized, I could learn a bit more French than I have been able to in other settings 8)

Well, it looks like the Movie Discussions forum is being readied, and it's getting close to midnight, so I'll give my last four tags to be answered whenever. I'd like to second Philo and thank everybody for a fun game - especially the moderators for bringing it to us. So here go three questions for each of you:

Matt - What's the best thing about being a moderator on the Clint Eastwood Discussion Board?

mgk - Is there any one thing members could do or keep in mind when posting that would help you spend less time moderating and more time enjoying the site as a member? Or is everything peachy-keen?

KC - What's the most challenging aspect of being a CEDB moderator?

And last, this one's for all three - who'd win in a three-way cage match?
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Post by: Matt on June 22, 2003, 09:28:22 PM

Matt - What's the best thing about being a moderator on the Clint Eastwood Discussion Board?

The best thing isn't being a moderator, it's being a member of the board and meeting the great people who post here.  As a moderator, I most enjoy planning film discussions, starting games and contests, and anything else I can think up to make the board enjoyable for everyone.  Unfortunately, as a moderator, we sometimes have to deal with unpleasant situations which takes a toll on all of us.  But there's been a lot of good moments even when it gets rough, and lots of incentive to keep going.

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And last, this one's for all three - who'd win in a three-way cage match?

Us fight?  Never happen.  Besides for us all being good friends, we know better than to fight each other because not one of us would go down easily.  ;)
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Post by: mgk on June 22, 2003, 09:35:11 PM
mgk - Is there any one thing members could do or keep in mind when posting that would help you spend less time moderating and more time enjoying the site as a member? Or is everything peachy-keen?

All I ask is that everyone be kind to each other and then all is well.

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And last, this one's for all three - who'd win in a three-way cage match?

Not gonna happen.  :)
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Post by: Matt on June 22, 2003, 09:53:17 PM
It's time to wrap this up now.  I've started a thread for all unanswered tags HERE (http://www.clinteastwood.org/forums/index.php?board=3;action=display;threadid=1100;start=0#lastPost).      So check that thread to see if you've missed any. (And I hope I didn't miss any when I brought them over.)

Thanks everyone who participated! It was a lot of fun. :)