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Title: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: AKA23 on October 02, 2020, 05:16:34 PM
I have some great news! After starring in "The Mule" in 2018, Clint Eastwood is planning to return to the screen yet again for "Cry Macho."

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Even as the industry slowly gets back to work, Clint Eastwood looks to be moving quickly to get his next movie going. Deadline hears the iconic director is coming on to direct and star in Cry Macho for Warner Bros. While it?s unknown about a start date or when it might be released, sources say Eastwood has already begun scouting locations for the shoot.

Based on the book, the film will star Eastwood as a onetime rodeo star and washed-up horse breeder who, in 1978, takes a job from an ex-boss to bring the man?s young son home and away from his alcoholic mom. Crossing rural Mexico on their back way to Texas, the unlikely pair faces an unexpectedly challenging journey, during which the world-weary horseman may find his own sense of redemption through teaching the boy what it means to be a good man. The New York Times described it as a morality tale about two characters who help each other through tough transitions.

https://deadline.com/2020/10/clint-eastwood-cry-macho-warner-bros-1234582757/

What does everyone think about this? Does this sound like a project you'd like to see and a good role for Clint? This sounds to me like it may be thematically and tonally similar to "Gran Torino, and also reminds me of "A Perfect World." Is anyone familiar with this book?
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Post by: AKA23 on October 02, 2020, 05:55:27 PM
The report from "Variety" shares some interesting additional details, including that Clint himself planned to star in this back in 1988!

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The project was unveiled during the 2011 Cannes Film Festival, where the New York Times reported that Arnold Schwarzenegger was attached to star with Ruddy producing, Brad Furman directing and plans to shoot in New Mexico. Eastwood had once before intended to star and direct, but had put it aside in favor of 1988?s ?The Dead Pool,? in which he portrayed his signature Harry Callahan character.

https://variety.com/2020/film/news/clint-eastwood-cry-macho-1234791302/
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Post by: Matt on October 02, 2020, 08:25:39 PM
Exciting news!


What does everyone think about this? Does this sound like a project you'd like to see and a good role for Clint?

It does sound like a good project. Funny he had put it off to do Dead Pool and 30+ years later comes back to it.
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Post by: Christopher on October 02, 2020, 09:12:51 PM
This does sound interesting. As I was reading the description I thought of Honkytonk Man, though Red is an alcoholic instead of taking the kid away from one.
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Post by: -satu- on October 02, 2020, 09:23:40 PM
How exciting! It sounds like he?s just not made for staying still, and not working. Great news for us of course.
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Post by: The Schofield Kid on October 03, 2020, 12:04:12 AM
Great news. looking forward to it. As I've said in the past, it doesn't matter what the film is, Clint could make a film about two ants crossing a NYC street and I'll be there to see it.
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Post by: antonis on October 03, 2020, 01:36:26 AM
Mr Eastwood wearing a cowboy hat...  :idiot2:

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Post by: AKA23 on October 03, 2020, 06:51:46 AM
I would love to learn the story of how this project came to the attention of Clint 30 years later. If true that he planned to make this in 1988, that is quite the unexpected turn of events. I am also wondering how he can play a character that was intended to be played by someone in their 50s or 60s thirty years later as a 90 year old man. Perhaps thats part of what Nick Schenk will be doing in his rewrite of the script.

This is noteworthy on multiple levels. It is the first film not based on true events that he has directed since Gran Torino, and the first film based on a book since Million Dollar Baby in 2004. It also reteams him with Al Ruddy, who also produced that film, and Nick Schenk, who wrote Gran Torino and The Mule. I did not think we would see him act again after The Mule, so this is surprising on so many levels :)
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Post by: Perry on October 03, 2020, 01:49:44 PM

         It's from a 1976 novel. Yeah, try buying the paperback novel on Amazon to even investigate . It's selling for $855.00....bwhahahaha
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Post by: Christopher on October 03, 2020, 02:30:23 PM
I hadn't looked up the book yet but was meaning to, so thanks for mentioning that, Perry. I guess the good news is the book might get printed again.
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Post by: Gant on October 03, 2020, 04:03:25 PM
Great news. Something to look forward to..
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Post by: Gant on October 07, 2020, 08:19:41 AM
I think this sounds like an ideal project for Mr Eastwood..
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: AKA23 on October 07, 2020, 10:37:54 AM
It will be great to see Clint onscreen. I always prefer projects in which he acts to ones in which he does not, so I'm definitely happy to see him act again. I'm not sure what to think of this project though. He decided not to do it thirty years ago in favor of "The Dead Pool," which is one of his weaker efforts. Arnold Schwarzenegger doesn't have the highest quality project selections, and he once was attached to this. The screenplay has been around for thirty years and still has not been made. It's going to be rewritten by Nick Schenk, and neither of the Eastwood films he wrote had particularly good screenplays. Both were carried on the strength of Eastwood's performance. This project also seems to be treading very familiar ground. He's already done several other family dramas focusing on conservative, cantankerous old men, "Million Dollar Baby," "Trouble with the Curve," "Gran Torino," and "The Mule." Teaching the kid how to be a man sounds very similar to "Gran Torino" to me, in particular. I'm really hoping it's good, and I'm definitely looking forward to it, but I'm not sure if its an ideal project or not! Hope to hear soon who else is chosen for the cast! :)
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Post by: Gant on October 07, 2020, 01:55:46 PM
Is this going to be the first Eastwood character who?s story is set in the 70?s since... the 70?s ?

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Post by: AKA23 on October 07, 2020, 05:22:46 PM
Is this going to be the first Eastwood character who?s story is set in the 70?s since... the 70?s ?

Gant, if it's actually set in the 70's, I think so. I think the articles were pulling that summary from the book synopsis upon which the movie is based. I don't know if the eventual film will be updated to closer to modern day, or set in the 1970's, per the book. That's another intriguing element of this project.
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: Perry on October 08, 2020, 12:01:45 PM


 From some of the obscure sites I've learned about the book it seems it's kind of a morality tale with the two main characters where it ends up being a episodic traveling situation to boot.
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: AKA23 on October 08, 2020, 02:16:17 PM

 From some of the obscure sites I've learned about the book it seems it's kind of a morality tale with the two main characters where it ends up being a episodic traveling situation to boot.

Perry, based on your research, does this sound like a good film and role for Eastwood to do? Also, do you think it will be more of a comedy or a drama? IMDB lists it as a drama/thriller, which doesn?t seem to fit the book description to me.
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Post by: Gant on October 09, 2020, 02:41:48 AM
I think it feels like a good fit... It can?t be easy finding lead roles for actors in Eastwood age range..
I really liked The Mule but I?m very happy that Clint?s going before the cameras again..
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Post by: honkytonkman on October 09, 2020, 03:49:56 AM
His ability to remain so prolific and active at his age is truly astounding ... It seems that he has found in Nick Schenk an ideal collaborator, in the sense that he seems comfortable writing screenplays with old characters. , and that his writing is close to Eastwood themes. We recently saw Eastwood skiing in the company of Schwarzenegger, and they obviously strike up a certain friendship, which may suggest that the idea to relaunch this project may have come from Schwarzie, since the script passed through him at a certain time. . So it wouldn't be surprising to see Schwarzie play alongside Eastwood in the film. I am also delighted to see Eastwood finally tackle an original story, without being inspired by real events ...
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Post by: Perry on October 09, 2020, 12:35:24 PM


        To be honest Honkytonk Man, I can't even gauge what this movie or the book would be about in any specific answer. Most of what I've read are pretty much blurbs and I've gotten different takes on what I've read as well. Is it a comedy-drama?..A episodic morality tale?.. A movie about redemption?.. That's pretty much like every one else here has read.... So it's pretty ambiguous. I'm just hoping it has an edge to it. It's a shame you can't get the original novel......
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: Perry on October 09, 2020, 12:47:19 PM


The following is a review of the original book I found a week ago..notice the date it was reviewed....Personally, I'm sure the movie will be a bit different. It doesn't seem Eastwood's character is 90 years old or even a Senior Citizen.....

CRY MACHO

by N. Richard Nash ‧ RELEASE DATE: June 11, 1975

Macho is sexual prowess--the code which bronc riders live by. Mike Milo, 38 and a Texas rodeo star, breaks his leg on a bronc, later is fired by his boss, Howard Polk, for being too old. Mike's macho is slipping. Then Howard offers him $50,000 to kidnap his eleven-year-old son, Rafa, from his Mexican ex-wife. It's Mike's last big chance at a stake for a new business. Once into Mexico City, he finds Rafa has lighted out from his mother's cleanliness mania to become a cockfighting waif. Mike tracks him down, tells the boy his father is muy m . . . . and wants him up north with his rodeo. Along the way, they have a series of misadventures which land them in Janasco, where Mike falls for a Mexican widow with four kids, Rafa takes up illegal cockfighting, and love grows between the boy and his kidnapper while they rope and break wild mustangs in the hills. When the police come down on them, Mike diverts the cops so that Rafa can escape. Wounded, Mike makes it back to Texas but decides to settle for love and his new son Rafa in Janasco. Straight storytelling, perhaps a bit sentimental.
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Post by: SamanMoradkhani on October 13, 2020, 03:57:33 AM
Hi guys, I'm back. I lost my previous account, My bad.
Now that I'm here again I must say that this new project is so thrilling to me. it's a simple story with a theme that has always been with Clint Eastwood's filmography and that is "redemption". it's a redemption story that reminds us of Million Dollar Baby, Gran Torino and of course, Unforgiven. and here I found this amazing casting call on facebook which declares filming will take place in November and December, 2020. Also, it provides a great plot of the movie. tell me what you think?

https://www.facebook.com/deafwesttheatre/posts/10158778280799855
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Post by: Perry on October 13, 2020, 11:38:32 AM


Yeah, that does parallel in some areas those other movies...Interesting story.
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Post by: SamanMoradkhani on October 13, 2020, 02:11:46 PM
My takes on this story/movie with a closer look at the book:
1. The protagonist of the story is in his 40s, and Clint Eastwood is 90. here are two possibilities: a) Clint Eastwood plays the lead character, and that's where Nick Schenk's presence makes sense. (He obviously is an expert in creating old characters) b) Clint Eastwood won't play the lead, Instead he will play HOWARD POLK.
2. Making a movie during this pandemic is quite a challenge. we shall wait and see how Clint pulls this one out.
3. this is one of the very rare occasions when Clint Eastwood shoots a movie in winter. this means that the movie should/could be presented at Cannes, 2021. Clint has a rich Cannes background.
4. Seeing him in front of cameras again, at 90, in New Mexico, is just so sexy already.
5. Cry Macho is probably the most Eastwoodian story out there.
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Post by: AKA23 on October 13, 2020, 04:42:31 PM
November/December of 2020 is a much faster production timeline than I was expecting. I had thought they may want to wait until summer 2021 if the plan is to release in winter 2021, as the original article announcing this suggested. If they are already seeking extras, that must mean this project is officially a go. If it's to start filming in November, we should be hearing casting news soon! I always find learning who else will share the screen with Clint to be exciting!

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Post by: SamanMoradkhani on October 15, 2020, 05:04:51 AM
 if you want to know more about the book, this one is illuminating also.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/arnold-schwarzeneggers-canceled-film-how-cry-macho-parallels-his-own-scandal

share your thoughts.
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Post by: Hocine on October 15, 2020, 08:17:20 AM
Hello everybody :)

Great news ! Clint will be back before and behind the camera ! It is so exciting !

This Cry Macho project sounds good and promising: a simple story about redemption and based on a novel, which seems made for Clint
Thematically, it seems close to The Mule, Gran Torino and so many movies that Clint made
So, yes, Cry Macho can be considered as an Eastwoodian project
Cry Macho could be a road movie like A Perfect World or Honkytonk Man too

I did not expect Clint to star in a film so soon
After Richard Jewell, his next project was not clearly announced
Even if a project, which would lead him in Hawaii, was once announced
Cry Macho was attached to many actors in the past (Burt Lancaster, Pierce Brosnan, Roy Scheider and Arnold Schwarzenegger) before coming back to Clint
By the way, I did not know that Clint was attached to that project in the late eighties and his biographies said nothing about that, if I am not wrong
I am not sure that the film will take place in the seventies, when I read the casting notice
I am curious to know more about the cast: will there be some well known actors like in The Mule or some unknown actors like in Gran Torino ?

I hope that Clint will be able to make Cry Macho, in spite of the hard times in the movie industry
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Post by: Hocine on October 15, 2020, 08:48:06 AM
Hi guys, I'm back. I lost my previous account, My bad.
Now that I'm here again I must say that this new project is so thrilling to me. it's a simple story with a theme that has always been with Clint Eastwood's filmography and that is "redemption". it's a redemption story that reminds us of Million Dollar Baby, Gran Torino and of course, Unforgiven. and here I found this amazing casting call on facebook which declares filming will take place in November and December, 2020. Also, it provides a great plot of the movie. tell me what you think?

https://www.facebook.com/deafwesttheatre/posts/10158778280799855

Welcome back to you, Saman Moradkhani !

Well, in my opinion, Clint will be in a familiar territory with Cry Macho

That title sounds perfect for a Clint Eastwood movie

I am happy for him that he is still working at his age: it is amazing and uncommon in Hollywood

Screenwriter Nick Schenk will probably adapt the story and the main character to Clint's screen persona

I hope that Clint will deliver an other great performance

I am just wondering how faithful the movie will be to the novel

When the project was still attached to Arnold Schwarzenegger, a decade ago, producer Albert S. Ruddy said that at the end of the movie, he wanted the movie goers to laugh and cry
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Post by: Hocine on October 15, 2020, 09:13:47 AM
if you want to know more about the book, this one is illuminating also.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/arnold-schwarzeneggers-canceled-film-how-cry-macho-parallels-his-own-scandal

share your thoughts.

Well, I am not sure that all the details depicted in that article will be kept by Nick Schenck but who knows ?

Logically, he will adapt the story and the character to Clint, who is 90 now

At least, these details reveal a more complex story than I thought

It may be an opportunity for Clint to deal with his own relationship with women but I don't know

Clint has already did that in The Beguiled, Play Misty for Me, Tightrope and The Bridges of Madison County

At first sight, Cry Macho seems to be a father-son story


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Post by: SamanMoradkhani on October 22, 2020, 12:49:55 PM
Cry Macho shooting starts on November 4th and will be wrapped on December 16th. Clint plays the lead. what do you think? can we call this drama an award friendly project?
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Post by: KC on October 22, 2020, 07:21:32 PM
Judging by Clint's recent projects and the response of the awards-awarding crowd: No.

If it wraps on December 16th, it will still be a while before it's ready for release (even given Clint's "warp speed" in finishing his projects). Not sure about awards season rules during the pandemic, but it certainly won't be a 2020 calendar-year release.
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Post by: SamanMoradkhani on October 23, 2020, 02:25:29 AM
Judging by Clint's recent projects and the response of the awards-awarding crowd: No.

If it wraps on December 16th, it will still be a while before it's ready for release (even given Clint's "warp speed" in finishing his projects). Not sure about awards season rules during the pandemic, but it certainly won't be a 2020 calendar-year release.

Yes, it is most likely a 2021 release film. a much more crowded calendar for award-related motion pictures. I hope the best comes for Clint Eastwood again.
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Post by: The Schofield Kid on October 23, 2020, 04:21:53 AM
Talking about awards before a film even starts shooting. Give me a break! ::)
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Post by: Gant on October 23, 2020, 07:49:03 AM
🤣🤣
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Post by: AKA23 on October 24, 2020, 04:39:32 AM
I?m with KC. I don?t think this is going to be the kind of film that gets Eastwood any Oscar nominations. To be eligible, the film would have to be released by February 28, 2021, and even if it were that type of film, it won?t be ready to be released by then. This sounds to me more like a crowd pleaser, like The Mule and Gran Torino were.
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Post by: SamanMoradkhani on October 24, 2020, 12:22:58 PM
with this pandemic at its peak, it's hard to call any movie 'crowd pleaser'. (MGM is considering selling No Time to Die to Apple or Netflix) Maybe this is just another passion project for Clint and of course Al Ruddy who has waited several decades to have this movie made. Once he said that he refused to give up this script to big studios so he can make it independently. "This could be a classic" added Mr. Ruddy in an interview.
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Post by: Hocine on October 26, 2020, 05:42:32 AM
I suppose that what matters to Clint is just making movies
As Pierre Rissient said once, making movies is his last frontier
He almost won everything
He was a box office draw for many years in a row
He made many great movies
He seemed to be an Oscar darling from 2004 and 2007 but not anymore

I just hope that he will be able to accomplish this Cry Macho project
In your opinion, who could play Howard Polk?
Do you think that Clint will share the screen with other big names?
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Post by: SamanMoradkhani on October 27, 2020, 02:00:50 PM
This is just crazy. the movie starts shooting next week, and there is absolutely no information on who is gonna be in the movie, who is the DoP, who is editing and so on. this kind of anonymity is so weird. this movie is basically in shadow mode.
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Post by: Hocine on October 28, 2020, 04:16:31 PM
I found this article from Albuquerque Journal, which deals with Cry Macho production
The film will be shot in the Albuquerque area, New Mexico

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.abqjournal.com/1511464/clint-eastwood-to-bring-cry-macho-to-nm-for-production.html/amp

According to this article, the film will take place in 1978: the production is looking for cars from 1960?s to 1978
However, no details about the cast, the DoP and the editor


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Post by: Gant on October 29, 2020, 12:29:31 AM
Well it?s still all very exciting... our man is back at work and acting again. Who could ask for more..
I?d even settle for a Pink Cadillac sequel.... tho Cry Macho sounds a lot more promising..
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Post by: honkytonkman on November 03, 2020, 02:55:03 AM
Obviously, Stephen Campanellini is still with the team : https://www.instagram.com/p/CGhwabVBeNC/
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Post by: Hocine on November 03, 2020, 06:08:30 AM
That's great :)
I guess we will have more informations about the cast and production members soon
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Post by: honkytonkman on November 04, 2020, 02:18:42 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/CHJYQMOhtUt/?igshid=g1vwo8kax944
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Post by: SamanMoradkhani on November 07, 2020, 11:10:09 AM
Cry Macho started filming on November 5, in Albuquerque, New Mexico, and will later move to Socorro County on November 16. With Clint Eastwood directing, the film is set to conclude filming the following month on December 16.
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Post by: AKA23 on November 07, 2020, 01:31:17 PM
I thought it started on the 4th, but Saman is right, it has started filming. They still haven't announced any additional cast members beyond Eastwood, which I don't really understand, since they have to have hired some of the additional cast members to be able to start filming unless Eastwood is going to be walking around the movie by himself  ;D I don't recall an Eastwood film starting production and not announcing the cast in advance. It's very strange to me, and I'm kind of wondering why that's happening. KC or other Eastwood experts, do you recall that happening in the past? Why would they be doing that, if you have any ideas?
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Post by: honkytonkman on November 07, 2020, 02:10:14 PM
I have an idea ... Maybe they keep the cast secret, and they want the shooting to be confidential ... because of the pandemic . They don't want to face a lot of journalists or tourists around the crew. Maybe they have a very strict covid protocol.
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Post by: KC on November 07, 2020, 04:05:21 PM
I have an idea ... Maybe they keep the cast secret, and they want the shooting to be confidential ... because of the pandemic . They don't want to face a lot of journalists or tourists around the crew. Maybe they have a very strict covid protocol.

I think you're on to something here.
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Post by: AKA23 on November 08, 2020, 09:12:44 AM
I have an idea ... Maybe they keep the cast secret, and they want the shooting to be confidential ... because of the pandemic . They don't want to face a lot of journalists or tourists around the crew. Maybe they have a very strict covid protocol.

This is a really smart theory. I agree with KC.
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Post by: Hocine on November 08, 2020, 04:00:51 PM
I thought it started on the 4th, but Saman is right, it has started filming. They still haven't announced any additional cast members beyond Eastwood, which I don't really understand, since they have to have hired some of the additional cast members to be able to start filming unless Eastwood is going to be walking around the movie by himself  ;D I don't recall an Eastwood film starting production and not announcing the cast in advance. It's very strange to me, and I'm kind of wondering why that's happening. KC or other Eastwood experts, do you recall that happening in the past? Why would they be doing that, if you have any ideas?

That situation is unusual but I am glad that it has started filming anyway.
Honkytonkman?s theory makes sense.
If I am correct, when Gran Torino cast was not announced in advance.
In fact, the medias were focused on Changeling, which was selected in Cannes Film Festival in 2008.
So, Gran Torino production seemed confidential.
Moreover, most of Gran Torino cast members were unknown actors.
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Post by: Hocine on November 08, 2020, 04:05:18 PM
Sorry about my previous post :)
I wanted to say that when Gran Torino was filming, the cast was not announced in advance.
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Post by: SamanMoradkhani on November 09, 2020, 11:04:51 AM
Nice theories suggested by guys, but the weird thing is that Cry Macho doesn't even have an official IMDB page. the only reference to the movie is in "under-development" project section of Clint Eastwood's IMDB page. it's a new and yet unusual approach and policy by WB, if there is any.

by the way, I asked one of my friends on Twitter who happened to read the original book, how good he found the story, and his response was interesting.
He said "The story is very unique and strong, per se. The development of Mike's character was really well-written, so yes, I would call the novel a great story."

I guess Clint might do some magic with this "unique and strong" story. 
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Post by: antonis on November 13, 2020, 05:20:02 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/CHhdKLXJoS6/?igshid=1r9knn587kwgx (https://www.instagram.com/p/CHhdKLXJoS6/?igshid=1r9knn587kwgx)

 :)

Just hope the link works
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Post by: SamanMoradkhani on November 13, 2020, 08:02:59 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/CHhdKLXJoS6/?igshid=1r9knn587kwgx (https://www.instagram.com/p/CHhdKLXJoS6/?igshid=1r9knn587kwgx)

 :)

Just hope the link works

Finally sth tangible. Thank you.
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Post by: AKA23 on November 13, 2020, 08:17:32 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/CHhdKLXJoS6/?igshid=1r9knn587kwgx (https://www.instagram.com/p/CHhdKLXJoS6/?igshid=1r9knn587kwgx)

 :)

Just hope the link works

I don't know what role this woman has with the production, but she appears to be a fan of Eastwood. This is her message translated into English via Google Translate. It's a nice tribute.

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We finally have the proof: CLINT EASTWOOD IS FILMING A NEW FILM
The grandiose beauty of this confirmed news is even stronger in the period we are experiencing. While the world stands still and the elderly are subjected to a bipolar approach whereby either they are confined to their homes "for their own good" or they are considered expendable because they have lived their life and now no longer produce, this ninety-year-old gentleman years old, rich, famous, who no longer has to prove anything to anyone is working. Of his own free will, for the pleasure and joy of doing it, because his creativity and curiosity prevent him from doing otherwise. Again, Clint is an example. And these days he does much more than making a film: he teaches us how to react to difficulties and never stop (no more than strictly necessary, at least). And it proves once again that the elderly are often brighter than the young.
#clinteastwood
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Post by: AKA23 on November 13, 2020, 08:22:52 AM
Since I think we may be waiting until post-production begins on December 16th to learn much more about this project, this is a link to a comprehensive summary of the entire book via Wikipedia. I have chosen not to read this, since it contains major spoilers of the entire story, but for those of you that are craving more information, you can find that here.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cry_Macho

If you do choose to read this, please do not post any major spoilers in this thread. Many of us would probably prefer not to know! I would, however, be very interested to learn more from those of you that read this what your overall impressions are about this project. Is it a good project for Eastwood to do, does he seem like he's a good fit for the character of Mike, what films in his filmography does this seem tonally and thematically similar to, and what genre is this story? Hope this spurs some general, major spoiler free conversations! 

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Post by: antonis on November 13, 2020, 09:24:41 AM
Apart from the age of the hero and the changes that will cause to the story the unavoidable adjustment, the concept looks promising and I can easily imagine Mr Eastwood as the main character.
Looking forward
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Post by: Gant on November 13, 2020, 10:07:27 AM
Cool pic.... back in the saddle so to speak... 👍
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Post by: KC on November 13, 2020, 10:19:42 AM
I note that he's holding a mask.
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Post by: honkytonkman on November 13, 2020, 01:38:13 PM
I found that one too : https://www.instagram.com/p/CHh-qZdn-ZC/
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Post by: honkytonkman on November 13, 2020, 01:41:54 PM
And h?re, there is a weird thing : the title is mentionned as "The Long Play" https://www.instagram.com/stories/highlights/17864194678564927/.  ....... Same pic here : https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=2853112234716218&set=a.429718173722315
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Post by: honkytonkman on November 13, 2020, 02:07:12 PM
Sorry guys, I just looked at the dates. This is probably taken during the shooting of "Richard Jewell"
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Post by: Hocine on November 16, 2020, 04:41:23 AM
Apart from the age of the hero and the changes that will cause to the story the unavoidable adjustment, the concept looks promising and I can easily imagine Mr Eastwood as the main character.
Looking forward

I agree with Antonis
I do not know how faithful the film will be to the novel but this project seems very promising
Thematically, this project looks so Eastwoodian
It is definitely an ideal project for Clint, who has nothing to prove at this stage of his career
Cry Macho could be a small picture in terms of budget but a powerful picture like A Perfect World, The Bridges of Madison County, Million Dollar Baby and Gran Torino 
I would not be surprised if most of the supporting roles were played by unknown actors
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Post by: AKA23 on November 16, 2020, 06:42:12 AM
I would not be surprised if most of the supporting roles were played by unknown actors

Why do you think this?
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Post by: Hocine on November 16, 2020, 09:35:15 AM
Why do you think this?

It is just an idea

Since the film is supposed to focus on the relationship between Clint?s character and a young boy, this project does not need many well-known actors for the supporting roles, with the exception of Howard Polk character

Cry Macho seems to have the same profile as Gran Torino

Clint could be the only big name of that film

At least, hiring unknown actors could help to maintain the movie at a low budget 

During that pandemic, making a movie at a low budget is a good thing, I think

The other possibility is to have some well-known actors like in The Mule

What do you think, guys ?
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Post by: antonis on November 16, 2020, 10:15:53 AM
I expect at least one well known costar, probably as the "employer".
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Post by: SamanMoradkhani on November 16, 2020, 10:56:01 AM
Cry Macho is most likely an adventure, road-trip drama in which the story evolves around three major characters i.e. Miko, Rafa and of course, the rooster.
so it seems really feasible that the picture's only big name would be Clint Eastwood and happily this is big enough. so we can expect a great case of character sturdy here as we witnessed in Million Dollar Baby and Gran Torino.
and as a modest reminder, I must say this script came before the novel. after failing to sell the script, the author decided to expand it and made it into a book. and this is the exact same script again with some touches from Nick Schenk. So regarding the script being faithful to the book, and that the writer of both script and the book is just one guy, I guess the script is much like the book.
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Post by: AKA23 on November 16, 2020, 08:56:57 PM
It is just an idea

Since the film is supposed to focus on the relationship between Clint?s character and a young boy, this project does not need many well-known actors for the supporting roles, with the exception of Howard Polk character...

What do you think, guys ?

I honestly don't know. I could see it going either way. I have to admit this was my first thought when I saw that filming had started and they hadn't announced anyone besides Eastwood. I also thought honkytonk's alternative that keeping the cast secret was part of a COVID protocol seemed plausible as well. Between the two, I'd prefer he use established actors rather than unknowns.

As for how faithful it will be to the book, I think there will be changes. For example, there is supposed to be some kind of romance element to the story, and I can't see that working with a 90 year old main character.
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Post by: Hocine on November 17, 2020, 10:23:51 AM
Nice theories suggested by guys, but the weird thing is that Cry Macho doesn't even have an official IMDB page. the only reference to the movie is in "under-development" project section of Clint Eastwood's IMDB page. it's a new and yet unusual approach and policy by WB, if there is any.
https://m.imdb.com/title/tt1924245/?ref_=m_nmfmd_act_1
by the way, I asked one of my friends on Twitter who happened to read the original book, how good he found the story, and his response was interesting.
He said "The story is very unique and strong, per se. The development of Mike's character was really well-written, so yes, I would call the novel a great story."

I guess Clint might do some magic with this "unique and strong" story.

Cry Macho has an official IMDb page now:

https://m.imdb.com/title/tt1924245/?ref_=m_nmfmd_act_1


Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: SamanMoradkhani on November 17, 2020, 02:11:33 PM
Cry Macho has an official IMDb page now:

https://m.imdb.com/title/tt1924245/?ref_=m_nmfmd_act_1

Yeah thank you. I saw that earlier today.
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Post by: SamanMoradkhani on November 22, 2020, 03:24:46 PM
(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/124719743_3511279992286198_7943680903346372833_o.jpg?_nc_cat=105&ccb=2&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=ydgxj9w0vCIAX-SmkwA&_nc_ht=scontent-lga3-1.xx&oh=b5ce31992c030eade9f1484c47917b85&oe=5FDF7889)
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Post by: SamanMoradkhani on November 22, 2020, 03:28:13 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EnWgFprW4AcVkVg?format=jpg&name=medium)

Here are some images from the #CryMacho set featuring character Mike Milo's iconic blue panel truck, and a hat-shop decorated to look like a bar. (Photos were taken by Kate Garcia Rouh.)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EnWgIN5WMAINI_v?format=jpg&name=small)
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Post by: Hocine on November 23, 2020, 10:33:21 AM
Thanks for the pictures, SamanMoradkhani :)
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Post by: SamanMoradkhani on November 23, 2020, 03:40:21 PM
Thanks for the pictures, SamanMoradkhani :)

My pleasure Hocine  :)
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Post by: Hocine on December 02, 2020, 01:07:30 AM
According to IMDb, Yves Belanger is the cinematographer of Cry Macho, which is his third film with Clint.
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Post by: Jed Cooper on December 02, 2020, 06:06:39 AM
I?m looking forward to seeing Clint on the big screen again.  I plan on taking the day off to see the first screenings.  I?m guessing I?ll see it more than once, like I did with The Mule. 
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: SamanMoradkhani on December 02, 2020, 12:20:28 PM
According to IMDb, Yves Belanger is the cinematographer of Cry Macho, which is his third film with Clint.

That's great. I find his works pretty amazing. his last two with Clint Eastwood were satisfying. This one actually looks as a western movie and I can't wait to see how he pulls it out.
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Post by: antonis on December 03, 2020, 08:36:27 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/CIVzZZmHe8a/?igshid=1nxjvg5lbgyy0
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: Jed Cooper on December 03, 2020, 09:47:34 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/CIVzZZmHe8a/?igshid=1nxjvg5lbgyy0
Awesome, Antonis! Thanks for sharing! 🙂


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Post by: SamanMoradkhani on December 03, 2020, 10:50:39 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/CIVzZZmHe8a/?igshid=1nxjvg5lbgyy0

Awesome
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Post by: AKA23 on December 03, 2020, 12:07:56 PM
In response to the pandemic, Warner Bros. has announced that all Warner releases in 2021, including Cry Macho, will be released in two ways, simultaneously to theaters worldwide, as well as on HBO Max. No release date for Cry Macho was announced.

https://variety.com/2020/film/news/warner-bros-hbo-max-theaters-dune-matrix-4-1234845342/amp/?__twitter_impression=

https://deadline.com/2020/12/warner-bros-2021-movie-slate-hbo-max-matrix-4-dune-in-the-heights-1234649760/
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Post by: Christopher on December 03, 2020, 12:40:17 PM
In response to the pandemic, Warner Bros. has announced that all Warner releases in 2021, including Cry Macho, will be released in two ways, simultaneously to theaters worldwide, as well as on HBO Max. No release date for Cry

https://variety.com/2020/film/news/warner-bros-hbo-max-theaters-dune-matrix-4-1234845342/amp/?__twitter_impression=

https://deadline.com/2020/12/warner-bros-2021-movie-slate-hbo-max-matrix-4-dune-in-the-heights-1234649760/
That's interesting, and I guess one way to promote HBO Max as well. Of course I love the theatrical experience, but it's a good alternative for places where theaters are still shut down.
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Post by: KC on December 03, 2020, 11:59:25 PM
That's infuriating. As of now I can't get HBO Max on my TV, which gets streaming stuff via Roku, because Roku and WarnerMedia can't agree on a deal. Though, they say, they are negotiating.

I can watch on my computer, but that's not where I want to see a new Clint Eastwood movie for the first time. And theaters in NYC are still closed (I don't really want to go to a theater under current conditions, anyway).
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Post by: Hocine on December 04, 2020, 12:39:52 AM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.krqe.com/dont-miss/clint-eastwood-shooting-movie-in-belen/amp/
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Post by: honkytonkman on December 04, 2020, 02:25:13 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ba-Rffy7Lok
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: SamanMoradkhani on December 04, 2020, 06:39:22 AM
I wish Cry Macho goes to Cannes. It would be good to see Clint there again.
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Post by: Christopher on December 04, 2020, 07:41:44 AM
KC, I have Roku as well, and I've been hoping HBO Max will be added. Amazon Fire stick recently made a deal, so hopefully one can be made with Roku. I'd hate to have to buy a fire stick JUST to occasionally stream HBO Max.
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Post by: AKA23 on December 04, 2020, 08:32:22 PM
KC, I'm not happy about this either, but I think a silver lining might be that we may see this film earlier than winter 2021 now. Clint will get the film done much quicker than that, and since Warner Bros plans to sacrifice theater revenues by premiering this on streaming at the same time, there really isn't a business case to wait until winter 2021 to maximize box office, since how much this movie can earn won't be that impacted by the calendar given this new distribution model.
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Post by: AKA23 on December 05, 2020, 01:19:16 PM
KC, I was doing some research for you and this might help you out. Do you have an IPHONE or IPAD? If you do, many ROKUs appear to have a new feature that allows you to watch streaming content via your Roku on your TV via an airplay feature. There even appears to be instructions for how to use the HBO Max app that could be downloaded on an IPHONE or IPAD and then project it from your phone or IPAD to watch on your TV.

Also, I have both ROKU and an Apple TV, and in my opinion, the Apple TV is a much better streaming device, and that would play HBO Max, so that could be another way for you to watch this or other Warner Bros films in 2021. 

https://www.techhive.com/article/3597048/airplay-on-roku-this-changes-everything.html
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: KC on December 05, 2020, 03:58:53 PM
Thanks, AKA, but I have never owned an Apple device. (Microsoft and Google own my soul, besides all my information.) And I'm not about to invest in an Apple TV now, when I have a perfectly good streaming device already in Roku. I guess I'll just count on WarnerMedia and Roku working something out before Clint's film comes out. They'll have much more incentive to do so with this latest development.

But I do appreciate the suggestion! Maybe this will be useful to others on the Board. :)
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: Perry on December 05, 2020, 04:31:32 PM

         If you go into Wikpedia (Film) Cry Macho, The synopsis and storyline is explained in more detail from beginning to end. I was going to put the link in here , but having probs with my pc......

               
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: KC on December 06, 2020, 10:38:58 AM
Here you go, Perry:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cry_Macho_(film)

The main author of the article is a Wikipedian named Horacio Vara.
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Post by: Perry on December 06, 2020, 04:17:09 PM


  ok very nice..Thanks
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Post by: SamanMoradkhani on December 08, 2020, 04:16:46 PM
Brace yourself for some nostalgia and awesomeness.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EopzL5ZW4AABX-q?format=jpg&name=medium)
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: KC on December 08, 2020, 07:22:11 PM
Is he wearing William Munny's hat? ???
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Post by: AKA23 on December 08, 2020, 07:53:27 PM
I don't know. His hat in "Unforgiven" has a decorative band around it, and this photo is both too low resolution and too dark to tell. The color seems similar.
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Post by: Gant on December 08, 2020, 11:53:32 PM
Low res dark photo snatched from behind....and the man still looks so cool... hat too 👍

I do love a battered truck... 😊
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: SamanMoradkhani on December 09, 2020, 12:29:54 AM
Is he wearing William Munny's hat? ???

I don't know. I hope it is the one. But this style here? it is just pure reminiscent of golden ages of cinema. maybe a one last time neo-western.
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Post by: Hocine on December 09, 2020, 12:53:46 AM
Nice picture :)
Even if it is too dark, Clint is instantly recognizable
I think that the last film in which Clint wore a cow boy hat was A Perfect World
He wore hats in Absolute Power and The Mule too but not in a cow boy style
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Post by: antonis on December 11, 2020, 04:11:10 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/CIpyDrVHR8n/?igshid=1kwf3aufvkcma
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Post by: Hocine on December 11, 2020, 05:48:14 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/CIpyDrVHR8n/?igshid=1kwf3aufvkcma

Nice picture :)

Is it from Cry Macho set ?

It could be from Jersey Boys set


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Post by: antonis on December 11, 2020, 06:11:59 AM
Not so sure. His look is recent though.
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Post by: AKA23 on December 11, 2020, 10:01:59 AM
Is it just me or has knowing next to nothing about the production of this movie been incredibly frustrating? It is pretty much driving me crazy to not know who is cast! I even reached out to a few of the extras seeking to
learn more. One responded and was very nice, but said she couldn?t tell me anything. They?ve been told not to.
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: SamanMoradkhani on December 11, 2020, 11:29:08 AM
Is it just me or has knowing next to nothing about the production of this movie been incredibly frustrating? It is pretty much driving me crazy to not know who is cast! I even reached out to a few of the extras seeking to
learn more. One responded and was very nice, but said she couldn?t tell me anything. They?ve been told not to.

You are telling me. this is literally killing me too. I'm pretty sure that this is unprecedent. everything is in shadow mode; no stills, no cast, nothing. Yes, this is a small, independent picture, but this is Clint Eastwood, not a single set stills? no journalists? are they filming in confidential nuclear areas?
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: SamanMoradkhani on December 11, 2020, 11:30:33 AM
Nice picture :)

Is it from Cry Macho set ?

It could be from Jersey Boys set

No Hocine, this is from Cry Macho set.
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Post by: SamanMoradkhani on December 11, 2020, 11:37:53 AM
I found these 2 also. Clint alone again.

(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/p640x640/130549430_4783893231685344_2260028600489231858_o.jpg?_nc_cat=102&ccb=2&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=tiZPnDrEiPIAX_8QrVz&_nc_ht=scontent-lga3-1.xx&tp=6&oh=bdd21b9bbdb098d6063640c53d94ca71&oe=5FFA00BE)

(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/p526x296/130048333_4783893578351976_1580106826381448907_o.jpg?_nc_cat=110&ccb=2&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=qfP7ucld80UAX-DfaRt&_nc_ht=scontent-lga3-1.xx&tp=6&oh=0b98a6c47b394d744bcae826617dd2f2&oe=5FF79443)
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: honkytonkman on December 11, 2020, 05:07:44 PM
These ones too,  still alone : https://www.instagram.com/p/CIDNUQmHTtr/ and https://www.instagram.com/p/CGWzbEwHEf1/
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: AKA23 on December 11, 2020, 05:44:11 PM
I don't think these photos and the one with Eastwood drinking the water by the car are from Cry Macho. In one of the photos, it was posted more than 8 weeks ago, and this hadn't start filming yet, in and another one of them, it mentions Los Angeles in the comment hash tags, and this movie isn't filming there. The lower quality photos with the hat and the one with the mask are from this film though! I am hoping that when this film wraps production early next week Warner Bros will release a statement with some additional details, including who else has been filming alongside Eastwood, but we don't know. Fingers crossed more info will be coming soon.
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: Perry on December 12, 2020, 04:58:42 PM


These photos are absolutely from the Cry Macho set. No one was wearing face guards on The Jersey Boys set. Also, the movie takes place in parts of Mexico and the glass on the restaurant says 'Tacos' and 'Horas' which is too easy to figure out....
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: AKA23 on December 12, 2020, 05:23:23 PM
Perry, I was talking about these not being from Cry Macho:  https://www.instagram.com/p/CIDNUQmHTtr/ and https://www.instagram.com/p/CGWzbEwHEf1/
Also, this one.

Based on what he's wearing, I think one of those is from Trouble with the Curve. I don't know about the other one, and the one by the car drinking the water, based on the style of the homes/apartments, it looks like it could be from "Jersey Boys." https://www.instagram.com/p/CIpyDrVHR8n/?igshid=1kwf3aufvkcma

I agree with you that the photos with the mask, the two you talk about, and the one that is dark inside the shop with Clint wearing a hat, are from Cry Macho.
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: Hocine on December 12, 2020, 07:41:19 PM
Is it just me or has knowing next to nothing about the production of this movie been incredibly frustrating? It is pretty much driving me crazy to not know who is cast! I even reached out to a few of the extras seeking to
learn more. One responded and was very nice, but said she couldn?t tell me anything. They?ve been told not to.

We will probably learn more about this film soon. At least, I hope so.
This is an unusual situation, because of that pandemic.
However, when I checked the IMDb website, I noticed that one cast member has been added.
This is Sebestien Soliz who is cast as Worker.
I do not know him.
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: honkytonkman on December 13, 2020, 08:06:35 AM
The shooting of Cry Macho is more than probably coming to its end. We should have some news and official photos in a few days, I think. Can't wait to see that ...
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: KC on December 13, 2020, 11:04:06 AM
We will probably learn more about this film soon. At least, I hope so.
This is an unusual situation, because of that pandemic.
However, when I checked the IMDb website, I noticed that one cast member has been added.
This is Sebestien Soliz who is cast as Worker.
I do not know him.

I'm sure the extreme secrecy is due to pandemic precautions.

As for Sebestien Sol?z ... Interesting guy.

https://www.sebestiensoliz.com/
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Post by: Gant on December 13, 2020, 04:00:55 PM
Certainly sounds  it.. 😊
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: KC on December 13, 2020, 11:19:02 PM
(Was: Clint Eastwood to Direct And Star in Cry Macho for Warner Bros.)

Even though there has been very little actual information or news up until now, with the filming scheduled to conclude soon, it seems high time to change the title of this thread to our traditional style: "Production Information and News." Maybe when the film is in the can and there's no danger of crowds gathering, we'll start to hear a little more from official sources.

We'll post all updates here, official or not, until the time comes when the reviews start to appear, and then we'll start a new thread for that.  :)
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: Christopher on December 14, 2020, 06:07:10 PM
I wonder what Clint thinks of the HBO Max deal. A number of filmmakers and various others have been blasting WarnerMedia for that decision.
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: AKA23 on December 14, 2020, 06:21:29 PM
I wonder what Clint thinks of the HBO Max deal. A number of filmmakers and various others have been blasting WarnerMedia for that decision.

I have been wondering the same thing. I think he probably doesn't like it, since he seems pretty old school and traditional in terms of filmmaking, but I don't think he'd bad mouth Warners over it publicly. He's been with them for decades and I think he might find it unseemly to do that, so we may never know how he truly feels about this.
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: Hocine on December 15, 2020, 12:33:18 AM
I have been wondering the same thing. I think he probably doesn't like it, since he seems pretty old school and traditional in terms of filmmaking, but I don't think he'd bad mouth Warners over it publicly. He's been with them for decades and I think he might find it unseemly to do that, so we may never know how he truly feels about this.

I agree with you, AKA23
If I am correct, some days before that Cry Macho was announced as his next film, Clint and many other filmmakers signed a letter in which they supported movie theaters and the theatrical experience.
So, I guess that Clint may not be happy with Warners deal.
He would not bad mouth Warners over it publicly for obvious reasons but when Clint did Million Dollar Baby, he did not hesitate to tell the fact that Warners did not support him at 100%.
Indeed, Lakeshore Entertainment financially supported Million Dollar Baby, in association with Warners.
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: AKA23 on December 16, 2020, 02:44:16 PM
Filming wrapped yesterday, but we still have no information. I was hoping it could come today.

KC and other ROKU exclusive users, it's your lucky day! A deal has been reached to stream HBO Max.

https://variety.com/2020/digital/news/hbo-max-launch-roku-warnermedia-1234864416/
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: Christopher on December 16, 2020, 02:54:23 PM
Filming wrapped yesterday, but we still have no information. I was hoping it could come today.

KC and other ROKU exclusive users, it's your lucky day! A deal has been reached to stream HBO Max.

https://variety.com/2020/digital/news/hbo-max-launch-roku-warnermedia-1234864416/
Cool, looking forward to being able to see the movie... whenever it gets released!

Also good news about HBO Max coming to Roku.  O0
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: KC on December 16, 2020, 03:08:41 PM
Great news about the film wrapping, and about HBO Max and Roku!

Now I have to try to figure out whether my HBO cable subscription gives me free access to HBO Max. ???
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: honkytonkman on December 16, 2020, 03:59:44 PM
From David M.Bernstein, Eastwood's first assistant director : https://www.instagram.com/p/CI4EHlqpTzi/
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: Christopher on December 16, 2020, 10:22:30 PM
Now I have to try to figure out whether my HBO cable subscription gives me free access to HBO Max. ???
I think it's supposed to.
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: AKA23 on December 17, 2020, 11:58:06 AM
The long wait is over and those of you who thought Eastwood would be the only A-list actor in the cast have proven to be right. I'm not familiar with any of these actors.  I must say, this is a little disappointing for me! Eastwood's best films usually have strong casts, but that must mean the story must revolve around Eastwood and the boy.

https://deadline.com/2020/12/eduardo-minett-dwight-yoakam-clint-eastwoods-cry-macho-warner-bros-1234658332/

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Eduardo Minett is set to make his English lanuage feature debut as he is set to co-star opposite Clint Eastwood in Warner Bros. Cry Macho, which Eastwood will also direct. Natalia Traven, Dwight Yoakam, Horacio Garcia Rojas and Fernanda Urrejola are also on board. Eastwood has shown a knack for finding fresh new talent to share the screen with over the years including his 2008 drama Gran Torino when he tapped newcomer Bee Vang as his co-star.

Eduardo will be playing the boy. Per Hollywood Reporter, Fernanda Urrejola will be playing the boy's mom. I suspect Dwight Yoakam may be playing Eastwood's boss, Howard Polk.

What does everyone think of this news? 
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Post by: Macpherson on December 17, 2020, 01:32:29 PM

Looks like we're going for verisimilitude and authenticity......I like a sense of discovery and surprise in a cast..... less baggage and fewer preconceptions..... let's see how honest the cast's chemistry translates to the screen...... Clint certainly likes to keep us on our toes.
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Post by: Macpherson on December 17, 2020, 01:37:22 PM

I notice on the Cry Macho IMDb page we now have two credits for cinematography..... Yves Belanger  and Ben Davis....... any thoughts??
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Post by: SamanMoradkhani on December 17, 2020, 02:09:50 PM
I notice on the Cry Macho IMDb page we now have two credits for cinematography..... Yves Belanger  and Ben Davis....... any thoughts??

This is new. Ben Davis is truly Uneaastwoodian and yet a very good DoP. I don't actually know what has happened here :)
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Post by: Macpherson on December 17, 2020, 02:32:07 PM

Further info on Ben Davis.... certainly appears to be the D. O. P.


https://www.independenttalent.com/below-the-line/ben-davis/

Certainly intriguing??
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Post by: honkytonkman on December 17, 2020, 02:37:27 PM
Maybe Belanger was tested covid-positive during the production, and had to be quicly replaced . Warner provided one of his best technicians (he worked for some Marvels, and for Stephen Frears's "Tamara Drew" , which was very good !)
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: SamanMoradkhani on December 17, 2020, 02:56:46 PM
Further info on Ben Davis.... certainly appears to be the D. O. P.


https://www.independenttalent.com/below-the-line/ben-davis/

Certainly intriguing??

Maybe Yves Belanger was never attached to the film from the first place.
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Post by: SamanMoradkhani on December 17, 2020, 03:36:00 PM
I remember that Steve Campanelli was the main camera operator for Ben Davis on Three Billboards. So probably, as it was the case for Yves Belanger, Ben Davis was also steve's suggestion to Clint.
another funny and yet important truth about Eastwood is that his DoPs for the last 20 years (Stern, Belanger and now probably Davis) were all non-Americans. Yves Belanger (I'm not sure if it was him or Tom Stern) once said in an interview that Clint likes to shoot films in an European way than American way. and that's why in his movies camera operators are the most important crew member of camera department.
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Post by: Gant on December 17, 2020, 03:55:37 PM
All sounds very exciting to me...
From the little Ive learned of the story it doesnt surprise me that its a non starry And relatively small  cast..
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: KC on December 17, 2020, 11:49:03 PM
another funny and yet important truth about Eastwood is that his DoPs for the last 20 years (Stern, Belanger and now probably Davis) were all non-Americans. Yves Belanger (I'm not sure if it was him or Tom Stern) once said in an interview that Clint likes to shoot films in an European way than American way. and that's why in his movies camera operators are the most important crew member of camera department.

Tom Stern is non-American? ???
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: SamanMoradkhani on December 18, 2020, 12:47:39 AM
Tom Stern is non-American? ???

His birth place of course is USA. But he spent his years of learning and practicing cinematography in France, and as so many times he has said his approach in lighting and camera set-ups belongs to France school of photography, and not an American one.
p.s. We all know that Tom Stern was most influenced by Conrad Hall, the great French DoP, in a way that after he passed away, Tom Stern decided to quit this industry for good.
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Post by: SamanMoradkhani on December 18, 2020, 06:37:09 AM
Yves Belanger's name has been deleted as the DoP of Cry Macho and now its only credit is Ben Davis.
Excited to see the new visual look of the movie.
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: KC on December 18, 2020, 09:58:11 AM
His birth place of course is USA. But he spent his years of learning and practicing cinematography in France, and as so many times he has said his approach in lighting and camera set-ups belongs to France school of photography, and not an American one.
p.s. We all know that Tom Stern was most influenced by Conrad Hall, the great French DoP, in a way that after he passed away, Tom Stern decided to quit this industry for good.

I didn't know any of that, thanks!
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: AKA23 on December 18, 2020, 10:06:42 AM
Yves Belanger's name has been deleted as the DoP of Cry Macho and now its only credit is Ben Davis.
Excited to see the new visual look of the movie.

I doubt there will be a new visual look for this movie. Based on his past work, the visual look of the movie is really dictated by Eastwood, not the cinematographer. He chooses cinematographers based on whether they are willing and able achieve the look he already wants to create. Eastwood is unusual in that he's fond of very muted, desaturated colors. Given that that is usually his style, and that the film is set in the late 1970's, I would expect that will continue to be the case for this film, regardless of the new cinematographer. Eastwood doesn't like to use bright colors for his films.
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Post by: SamanMoradkhani on December 18, 2020, 10:48:23 AM
I doubt there will be a new visual look for this movie. Based on his past work, the visual look of the movie is really dictated by Eastwood, not the cinematographer. He chooses cinematographers based on whether they are willing and able achieve the look he already wants to create. Eastwood is unusual in that he's fond of very muted, desaturated colors. Given that that is usually his style, and that the film is set in the late 1970's, I would expect that will continue to be the case for this film, regardless of the new cinematographer. Eastwood doesn't like to use bright colors for his films.

I agree mostly. It's obvious that Clint likes to keep it low-key and minimal. He doesn't want the audience to notice the camera or even the presence of himself behind the camera. Even so, the Mule and Richard Jewell had some major differences with Tom Stern works with Eastwood. Tom Stern was a gaffer before he became a cinematographer, and his style of lighting a scene was totally different with the way Yves Belanger did. Yes, I don't expect big changes neither, But every DoP has a signature in his/her works, and I'm willing to see Ben Davis's.
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: Perry on December 18, 2020, 01:39:12 PM
  That's your Cry Macho cast.....

 
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Eduardo Minett is set to make his English-language feature film debut co-starring opposite Clint Eastwood in Warner Bros? Cry Macho, which Eastwood will also direct. Natalia Traven, Dwight Yoakam, Horacio Garcia Rojas and Fernanda Urrejola are also on board.

https://deadline.com/2020/12/eduardo-minett-dwight-yoakam-clint-eastwoods-cry-macho-warner-bros-1234658332/
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Post by: Perry on December 18, 2020, 01:53:43 PM
  From the Deadline Website.....

https://deadline.com/2020/12/eduardo-minett-dwight-yoakam-clint-eastwoods-cry-macho-warner-bros-1234658332/

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Based on the underlying book written by N. Richard Nash and a screenplay written by Nash and Nick Schenk, Cry Macho stars Eastwood as a one-time rodeo star and washed-up horse breeder who, in 1978, takes a job from an ex-boss to bring the man?s young son home and away from his alcoholic mom.  Crossing rural Mexico on their back way to Texas, the unlikely pair faces an unexpectedly challenging journey, during which the world-weary horseman may find his own sense of redemption through teaching the boy what it means to be a good man.

While this is Minett?s U.S. debut, he has had roles in a handful of Mexican TV shows including Como dice el dicho. Veteran actor-singer Yoakam is best known for roles in Panic Room, Sling Blade and most recently Logan Lucky. Traven was most recently seen on the AMC series Soulmates, and Rojas was recently seen in Netflix?s Narcos: Mexico.is repped by

Minett is repped by Ripstein Talent International Agency, Yoakam is repped by CAA and Activist, Traven is repped by Lolo & Company, and Rojas is repped by Vision Entertainment.
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Post by: AKA23 on December 18, 2020, 04:52:36 PM
Perry, I posted about this earlier in the thread, and you're right that this is the cast. How do you feel about him using mostly unknown actors for this film? I wonder why he chose to go in that direction for this movie. He kind of has a mixed record directing unknown actors. In "A Perfect World," he did quite a nice job with the actor playing the boy, and the Japanese actors alongside Ken Watanabe in "Letters from Iwo Jima" I thought were good, but I thought the acting from the unknowns in Gran Torino and 15:17 was terrible, so that's part of why for me this is a little disappointing. Still very much looking forward to it though!
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: KC on December 18, 2020, 07:53:19 PM
Perry, I edited your last two posts to supply the link to the Deadline site, and format the quotes as such. Hope you don't mind.
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: Gant on December 19, 2020, 12:57:05 AM
Im guessing this project is possibly gonna be pretty much a two hander with Clint and the boy and at least the kid does have
some acting experience... this project has me thinking quite a lot about Perfect World
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: The Schofield Kid on December 19, 2020, 03:22:49 AM
I have this feeling this film will look like a play. Not many different locations and just two main actors. Could be wrong but that?s the feeling I get.
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Post by: SamanMoradkhani on December 19, 2020, 04:24:22 AM
The thing that we must keep in mind is that there is a difference between being an UNKNOWN ACTOR and being a NON-ACTOR. the guys from Gran Torino and 15:17 to Paris were all NON-ACTORS without any kind of acting experience. But in Cry Macho case, cast members are UNKOWN, not non-actors; they could be even pro actors. and besides, this movie is all about Miko's life and his redemption through this road-trip. so I guess A Perfect World and Gran Torino are gonna meet.
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Post by: Gant on December 19, 2020, 07:25:08 AM
Agree with both of you...
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Post by: Perry on December 19, 2020, 08:55:14 AM
No problem on the edit KC... To be honest AKA23 I don't know how to gauge or anticipate Eastwood movies anymore. Personally, I agree with you on the 15:17 movie with those actors if you want to call them that.. I shut that movie off after maybe 30 minutes cause It was so bad and the acting yeah was ridiculous. But I have to disagree on Gran Torino. I thought Bee Vang was fine and thought Ahney Her was actually pretty good. I mean for a novice I thought Her gave a better performance than let's say Vonetta McGee who nice to look at was stiff and awful in Eiger who was considered an actress ....Though I'm not a fan of Perfect World you are right about the kid in that movie. He was quite good. From what I read about this movie plot and the book review it's basically a episodic story with some morality premise. I think even at 90 Eastwood still has the chops to deliver another type of movie in the same realm with actor novices like he did with Gran Torino. Actually from what I read all the people in this movie are working actors... Eastwood is so commanding on screen I don't even think most people care or pay attention to that minor thing. I just hope it's a good movie like everyone else... 15:17 though was brutal. Listen, I rather see this upcoming movie with no names plus Dwight Yoakam who was quite good in Sling Blade than see Justin Timberlake in another movie with Eastwood......
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: SamanMoradkhani on December 19, 2020, 10:58:43 AM
Eastwood had Bradley Cooper, Dianne West, Andy Garcia, Laurence Fishburne and so on in The Mule, yet the only real, developed character was Earl. The rest of that movie could've been played by non-actors and the result would be the same.
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Post by: Macpherson on December 19, 2020, 02:12:17 PM

Clint, as we know, just loves to work and produce movies... it's in his DNA.... he won't let the old man in. Perhaps, this time, in the current climate, he decided on a smaller scale, more manageable, more intimate chamber piece, set in a remote, less populated location, that could be delivered within strict COVID-19 limitations. We do love to speculate and wonder..... but that's why we all love contributing to this site. Me, I'm just so happy that at 90 years of age, Clint is once again, metaphorically, getting back into the saddle, but not yet, we hope, riding into the sunset.....
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Post by: Hocine on December 19, 2020, 08:22:00 PM
The long wait is over and those of you who thought Eastwood would be the only A-list actor in the cast have proven to be right. I'm not familiar with any of these actors.  I must say, this is a little disappointing for me! Eastwood's best films usually have strong casts, but that must mean the story must revolve around Eastwood and the boy.

https://deadline.com/2020/12/eduardo-minett-dwight-yoakam-clint-eastwoods-cry-macho-warner-bros-1234658332/

Eduardo will be playing the boy. Per Hollywood Reporter, Fernanda Urrejola will be playing the boy's mom. I suspect Dwight Yoakam may be playing Eastwood's boss, Howard Polk.

What does everyone think of this news?

Honestly, I am not really surprised about the cast.
For this project, it was not necessary to get an all-star cast because there were not many roles which would justify an all-star cast. Anyway, Cry Macho will be focused on the relationship between Clint and the boy.
Some movies like Unforgiven, Mystic River or Million Dollar Baby needed well-known actors in supporting roles because they were really developed.
I hope that they will have a good chemistry.
The star status of an actor is not the most important thing to Clint, if he is the right actor for the role.
Although Gran Torino does not have an all-star cast, it works because the actors who play the Hmong people look authentic.
I am happy that Clint made that film and I am willing to see it for sure.
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: Hocine on December 19, 2020, 08:28:48 PM
Im guessing this project is possibly gonna be pretty much a two hander with Clint and the boy and at least the kid does have
some acting experience... this project has me thinking quite a lot about Perfect World

I agree with you, Gant
This project seems close to A Perfect World
It could be close to Honkytonk Man too
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: Gant on December 19, 2020, 11:52:18 PM
Two of my favourite Clint movies 😊
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: antonis on December 20, 2020, 12:28:15 AM
A 90 year old man unable to go skiing this Christmas decides to direct and star in a neowestern movie instead, despite a global pandemic. He concludes filming a couple of months later. As announced he is the solo attraction of the movie...
I don't think that I'm able to describe any more ;D
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Post by: honkytonkman on December 20, 2020, 11:24:56 AM
Well, Geoffrey Miclat is Clint's casting director since 9 years now. We should trust him. I'm sure he has done a lot of research before finding these new talents ...
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: Hocine on December 20, 2020, 01:01:08 PM
Two of my favourite Clint movies 😊

Honkytonk Man and A Perfect World are among my favourite Clint Eastwood movies too :)
Honkytonk Man was not a box office hit but remains one of his most personal movies
Clint delivered one of his greatest acting performances
I like how he depicted America and its people
It seemed so authentic
I think that Honkytonk Man and Bronco Billy influenced the Coen Brothers, who are among the best American filmmakers, if we look at some of their movies like O?Brother, Where Art Thou ? and Inside Llewyn Davis
Honkytonk Man is probably underrated, which is unfair
Some French critics even compared it to John Ford?s The Grapes of Wrath
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Post by: SamanMoradkhani on December 21, 2020, 12:18:39 AM
I agree. Honkytonk Man is great and regretfully, underrated. Moreover, as you mentioned, it's still remained one of Eastwood's most personal films.
The movie just portraits a long gone American dream. It's an intimate, delicate and heart-warming tragedy with a golden heart at it's core.
This kind of a movie can be seen nowhere these days, and that's tragic. I hope Cry Macho bring back some of that forgotten spirit of cinema.
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Post by: Gant on December 21, 2020, 03:42:06 AM
I hope so too...

I was one of the few here in the UK fortunate enough to see Honkytonk Man in a cinema as it got a very limited release here..
It looked amazing, I hope I get the opportunity again someday..

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Post by: SamanMoradkhani on December 21, 2020, 02:14:21 PM
A CLOSER ONE:
(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/131894983_407378883953334_1153915039851289727_o.jpg?_nc_cat=108&ccb=2&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=txcYNHSR05gAX9qtZVV&_nc_ht=scontent-ort2-1.xx&oh=f4246c4f0a64bf649e250ef3f2475ed7&oe=60068989)
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: Hocine on January 05, 2021, 01:00:40 AM
First of all, I wish a happy new year to everyone

I know that Cry Macho release date is still to be determined but do you have any idea about it ?
Most of his last films were released in December

Do you think that it could be the case of Cry Macho ?
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Post by: The Schofield Kid on January 05, 2021, 01:45:24 AM
Last Friday in April. 😎
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Post by: jakemp on January 05, 2021, 06:05:44 AM
I'm extremely excited for another film from Clint as a director. I've never been disappointed by his work and in this case it should be no different. Hopefully everyone at this set will be safe during the pandemic!
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: SamanMoradkhani on January 05, 2021, 06:58:13 AM
First of all, I wish a happy new year to everyone

I know that Cry Macho release date is still to be determined but do you have any idea about it ?
Most of his last films were released in December

Do you think that it could be the case of Cry Macho ?

I hope Cannes 2021.
theoretical release: late September/early October.
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: AKA23 on January 05, 2021, 09:01:54 AM
With a mostly unknown foreign cast, I think it?s unlikely that this is going to be a candidate for any major awards, so there?s no good reason to either rush this to be released at the end of February or hold this release until the Fall. Although I don?t know, releasing in the late spring/summer seems more likely to me.
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: SamanMoradkhani on January 05, 2021, 12:47:44 PM
With a mostly unknown foreign cast, I think it?s unlikely that this is going to be a candidate for any major awards, so there?s no good reason to either rush this to be released at the end of February or hold this release until the Fall. Although I don?t know, releasing in the late spring/summer seems more likely to me.

Actually, Some of this year's best reviewed and top contenders for every major award are films with no major "stars". for example, Nomadland's only major actor is Frances McDormand. First Cow, I don't know any of it's cast. Never Rarely Sometimes Always is called the best film of the year by so many with unknown actors.
the real thing is script and how Eastwood handles the story. if it's intimate, simple, deep and beautiful, I'm sure it's a winner regardless of its lack of so-called "star" power.
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: AKA23 on January 05, 2021, 05:22:15 PM
Actually, Some of this year's best reviewed and top contenders for every major award are films with no major "stars". for example, Nomadland's only major actor is Frances McDormand. First Cow, I don't know any of it's cast. Never Rarely Sometimes Always is called the best film of the year by so many with unknown actors.
the real thing is script and how Eastwood handles the story. if it's intimate, simple, deep and beautiful, I'm sure it's a winner regardless of its lack of so-called "star" power.

Anything is possible, but when First Cow is nominated for Best Picture, Best Director and Best Actor at the Oscars, you let me know!  ;)
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: SamanMoradkhani on January 06, 2021, 06:25:34 AM
Anything is possible, but when First Cow is nominated for Best Picture, Best Director and Best Actor at the Oscars, you let me know!  ;)

Roma did :)
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: SamanMoradkhani on January 07, 2021, 01:38:45 PM
You can translate this interview and find exciting details about the movie.

https://www.reforma.com/clint-eastwood-el-sueno-de-natalia-traven/gr/ar2100446?md5=12cc04db0da80b5169a8dad6c66f621a&ta=0dfdbac11765226904c16cb9ad1b2efe&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=promocion_editor
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: Hocine on January 07, 2021, 05:48:06 PM
You can translate this interview and find exciting details about the movie.

https://www.reforma.com/clint-eastwood-el-sueno-de-natalia-traven/gr/ar2100446?md5=12cc04db0da80b5169a8dad6c66f621a&ta=0dfdbac11765226904c16cb9ad1b2efe&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=promocion_editor

Thanks for posting that article, SamanMoradkhani :)

According to that article, Cry Macho could be released next summer
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: AKA23 on January 07, 2021, 09:32:53 PM
To keep this light on spoilers, a love story between Clint?s character and another much younger woman is central to the story and being preserved in the film version. If you want to learn more about the details of that romance, who it?s with, how it is described, it?s in the article. I?m very surprised Clint decided to preserve that aspect of the story at 90 years old. The character in the book is 38 years old.
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: SamanMoradkhani on January 07, 2021, 11:58:37 PM
Thanks for posting that article, SamanMoradkhani :)

According to that article, Cry Macho could be released next summer

I'm glad you liked it Hocine.  :)
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: SamanMoradkhani on January 07, 2021, 11:59:30 PM
To keep this light on spoilers, a love story between Clint?s character and another much younger woman is central to the story and being preserved in the film version. If you want to learn more about the details of that romance, who it?s with, how it is described, it?s in the article. I?m very surprised Clint decided to preserve that aspect of the story at 90 years old. The character in the book is 38 years old.

Let's put it in this way, maybe Cry Macho is a neo-western version of Bridges of Madison County  :)
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: Hocine on January 11, 2021, 06:42:00 AM
To keep this light on spoilers, a love story between Clint?s character and another much younger woman is central to the story and being preserved in the film version. If you want to learn more about the details of that romance, who it?s with, how it is described, it?s in the article. I?m very surprised Clint decided to preserve that aspect of the story at 90 years old. The character in the book is 38 years old.

I think that Clint can surprise us again.
We may expect a specific movie and finally, he may give us something different.
At least, I hope that Cry Macho will not be The Mule 2.
I like The Mule but I would like to see something unusual and unexpected from Clint.
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: Gant on January 11, 2021, 07:54:00 AM
Agreed... I thought The Mule and Clint?s character in it were quite unexpected and he always seems to be looking for something
 different when acting..
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: SamanMoradkhani on January 12, 2021, 12:02:07 AM
Clint Eastwood is a personal filmmaker. He doesn't do anything which is not his choice. He only performs in front of camera if it's his own movie. and I'm pretty sure every time he chooses to act again, it's because he sees a little bit of himself in that character. He never seizes to surprise us, and this time is gonna be no exception.
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Post by: SamanMoradkhani on January 16, 2021, 01:14:32 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Er4GcUqW4AQWK5H?format=jpg&name=small)
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Post by: honkytonkman on January 16, 2021, 06:03:53 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Er4GcUqW4AQWK5H?format=jpg&name=small)


Wow ...
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: KC on January 16, 2021, 08:55:41 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Er4GcUqW4AQWK5H?format=jpg&name=small)

If it isn't this exact same hat, it's the closest thing to it that he's had on his head since Unforgiven wrapped:
(https://i.imgur.com/iPWO60P.jpg)

Detail, lighting slightly enhanced, next to the pic SamanMoradkhani posted :
(https://i.imgur.com/w0VZiWY.jpg) (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Er4GcUqW4AQWK5H?format=jpg&name=small)
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: SamanMoradkhani on January 17, 2021, 10:56:41 AM
If it isn't this exact same hat, it's the closest thing to it that he's had on his head since Unforgiven wrapped:
(https://i.imgur.com/iPWO60P.jpg)

Detail, lighting slightly enhanced, next to the pic SamanMoradkhani posted :
(https://i.imgur.com/w0VZiWY.jpg) (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Er4GcUqW4AQWK5H?format=jpg&name=small)

it's just getting better.
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: AKA23 on January 17, 2021, 11:21:23 AM
Clint did an interview about this film with his home town paper in Carmel in December after filming wrapped. There's nothing new here about the film, but Clint does confirm that he was initially offered this decades ago. He also discusses their COVID protocols.
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Eastwood wraps filming in New Mexico

By PAUL MILLER

HE MAY be 90 years old, but former Carmel mayor Clint Eastwood is still one of the preeminent directors in Hollywood and last week he finished principal photography for his latest project, an adventure film called ?Cry Macho.?
Not only is Eastwood directing the movie, he stars in it.
?It?s about a broken-down rodeo guy who works for a man who?s terribly wealthy,? Eastwood told The Pine Cone. ?I play the broken-down rodeo guy.?
The story involves the rich guy?s ex-wife, who takes their children to Mexico to keep them away from him.
?The boss calls in his chips with the rodeo guy and sends him down to Mexico to get the kids,? Eastwood said. ?The film?s about all the adventures he has with the kids on the way back...
 

http://pineconearchive.fileburstcdn.com/201225PCA.pdf
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: honkytonkman on January 17, 2021, 12:04:36 PM
If it isn't this exact same hat, it's the closest thing to it that he's had on his head since Unforgiven wrapped:
(https://i.imgur.com/iPWO60P.jpg)

Detail, lighting slightly enhanced, next to the pic SamanMoradkhani posted :
(https://i.imgur.com/w0VZiWY.jpg) (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Er4GcUqW4AQWK5H?format=jpg&name=small)

I think it looks a little more like his hat in the dollars trilogy .(https://baronhats.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/no-name-aged-front.jpg).  (https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ad/8a/90/ad8a90b6e58e6797d18bdccd1b0bc48a.jpg) (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Er4GcUqW4AQWK5H?format=jpg&name=small)

(https://www.thefilmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/Clint-Eastwood-The-Stranger.jpg)
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: KC on January 17, 2021, 07:40:04 PM
The band in the Unforgiven hat seems to be wider than in the Dollars and Cry Macho hats, but the crown in the Dollars hat isn't as high (to my eyes, anyway), and it's straight up and down instead of tapering slightly.

Here's another shot of the Unforgiven hat:

(https://www.moma.org/media/W1siZiIsIjczOTI5Il0sWyJwIiwiY29udmVydCIsIi1xdWFsaXR5IDkwIC1yZXNpemUgMjAwMHgxNDQwXHUwMDNlIl1d.jpg?sha=0abad675a9908dc0)
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: AKA23 on January 18, 2021, 02:47:19 PM
I can't tell whether the hat is the same or not. Like KC, to me, the band in the Unforgiven hat seems wider than the Cry Macho hat. From my perspective, it wouldn't make sense to use the same hat as either Unforgiven or the Dollars films because it would invite comparisons between Cry Macho and either Unforgiven or the Dollars films. Since those films were seminal works of the Western genre that became cultural phenomenons, I wouldn't want this new film compared to them! 

KC noticed something when reading the Carmel Pine Cone article that I posted earlier. Clint seems to mention there being multiple children that he takes back with him. If that's true, I don't recall that being mentioned before, so it would be a new detail.
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: SamanMoradkhani on January 18, 2021, 03:41:08 PM
interesting interview.
but one question:
Eastwood said that this story was first introduced to him 40 years ago; when he was a 50 year old star and filmmaker. and yet he adds that he was too young to play that role then. (The lead role guy, in the story, is 35!) and I just don't get it. is the guy in the story really 80-90 or what?
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: KC on January 18, 2021, 06:44:35 PM
I find that detail puzzling also. Furthermore, Eastwood says in the story " ... I  recently  dug  it  out  because  it  always  fascinated  me ... So  I  called  them  and  said,  'I'm  old  enough  now.' The  guy  who  wrote  the  script  [Richard  Nash]  was thrilled." Nash died twenty years ago. Presumably Clint meant Nick Schenk, who worked with Nash to adapt the version of the screenplay Eastwood used. Wikipedia has this:

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... On October 2, 2020, it was announced that Eastwood would direct, produce, and star in an adaptation of the novel for Warner Bros. Pictures, using a screenplay written by Nash prior to his death in 2000, which he adapted and penned alongside Nick Schenk (a screenwriter who wrote 2008's Gran Torino, which Eastwood also directed)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cry_Macho_(film)
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: AKA23 on January 18, 2021, 07:43:35 PM
I think that detail in the wikipedia article is wrong because when Gran Torino came out, a lot of articles mentioned that Gran Torino was the first film script that Nick Schenk had written. Since Nash died in 2000, and that's 8 years before Gran Torino was made, that timeline doesn't work. He could have been talking about the Nash family, I suppose. I think it makes more sense that Clint decided he wanted to finally make this and then gave it to Nick Schenk to tailor the role to be played by him after Nash had passed away.
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: KC on January 18, 2021, 07:54:27 PM
That's probably right, AKA. The Wikipedia article on Schenk does mention that he had some writing experience on a TV series in the 1990s, but it seems unlikely he would have teamed up with Nash to work on a project Clint had once been interested in, several years before his own first screenplay came to Clint's attention. Interestingly, three of Schenk's four screenplays to date have been now filmed by Clint--the exception is The Judge (David Dobkin, 2014).

Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: Hocine on January 19, 2021, 02:49:04 PM
That's probably right, AKA. The Wikipedia article on Schenk does mention that he had some writing experience on a TV series in the 1990s, but it seems unlikely he would have teamed up with Nash to work on a project Clint had once been interested in, several years before his own first screenplay came to Clint's attention. Interestingly, three of Schenk's four screenplays to date have been now filmed by Clint--the exception is The Judge (David Dobkin, 2014).

Yes, Nick Schenk seems to understand the evolution of Clint Eastwood?s screen persona over the years.
Fortunately, Schenk was able to write great roles for Clint.
From Gran Torino to Cry Macho, it is a pretty good collaboration between Clint and the screenwriter.
If I am correct, Dean Riesner remains the screenwriter who worked the most with Clint, from Coogan?s Bluff to Sudden Impact.
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: Hocine on January 19, 2021, 02:53:33 PM
Clint did an interview about this film with his home town paper in Carmel in December after filming wrapped. There's nothing new here about the film, but Clint does confirm that he was initially offered this decades ago. He also discusses their COVID protocols.
http://pineconearchive.fileburstcdn.com/201225PCA.pdf

Thanks for posting this interesting interview, AKA23 :)
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: Hocine on January 19, 2021, 03:00:27 PM
I can't tell whether the hat is the same or not. Like KC, to me, the band in the Unforgiven hat seems wider than the Cry Macho hat. From my perspective, it wouldn't make sense to use the same hat as either Unforgiven or the Dollars films because it would invite comparisons between Cry Macho and either Unforgiven or the Dollars films. Since those films were seminal works of the Western genre that became cultural phenomenons, I wouldn't want this new film compared to them! 

KC noticed something when reading the Carmel Pine Cone article that I posted earlier. Clint seems to mention there being multiple children that he takes back with him. If that's true, I don't recall that being mentioned before, so it would be a new detail.

The Cry Macho hat seems different from the Unforgiven hat and the Dollars trilogy hat both, although it is closer to the Unforgiven hat.
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: Hocine on January 20, 2021, 01:19:46 AM
What about the editor and the music composer?
If the editor is probably Joel Cox, do you think that Arturo Sandoval could be the music composer?
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: Klas on January 21, 2021, 11:31:06 AM
Saw for the first time Cry Macho included in the advertisements for the HBO Max simultaneous release plan.  They showed a clip of the movie, the scene where Eastwood tips his hat (the pic that was shown in this thread).
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: Christopher on January 21, 2021, 02:42:34 PM
Saw for the first time Cry Macho included in the advertisements for the HBO Max simultaneous release plan.  They showed a clip of the movie, the scene where Eastwood tips his hat (the pic that was shown in this thread).
I saw that advertisement as well. Hopefully we'll be getting a release date soon.
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: The Schofield Kid on January 26, 2021, 11:49:55 PM
Saw a poster on Facebook for the film, with a release date of June!!
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: honkytonkman on January 27, 2021, 01:32:28 AM
Saw a poster on Facebook for the film, with a release date of June!!

I saw it too... It's a fake... Using the credits of Gran Torino.

(https://scontent.fbru2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/143724075_10225030460727486_6305706415619051953_n.jpg?_nc_cat=101&ccb=2&_nc_sid=825194&_nc_ohc=Lu4QgshxO0gAX-KAaCl&_nc_ht=scontent.fbru2-1.fna&oh=0623156bab0320089269c6c26d51f5b4&oe=60355B84)
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: honkytonkman on January 27, 2021, 01:42:33 AM
(https://scontent.fbru2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/123656944_1023249384843045_2603635857749306064_o.jpg?_nc_cat=110&ccb=2&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=Tzo6PeC2rV8AX971te7&_nc_ht=scontent.fbru2-1.fna&oh=cb9b57e3e47f7e1c2696ed0b8dbb67b1&oe=6035F46E)
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: Hocine on January 27, 2021, 06:24:06 AM
I saw it too... It's a fake... Using the credits of Gran Torino.

(https://scontent.fbru2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/143724075_10225030460727486_6305706415619051953_n.jpg?_nc_cat=101&ccb=2&_nc_sid=825194&_nc_ohc=Lu4QgshxO0gAX-KAaCl&_nc_ht=scontent.fbru2-1.fna&oh=0623156bab0320089269c6c26d51f5b4&oe=60355B84)

I think that it was also used for The Mule


Do you think that Cry Macho could be released in June, although Warner Bros has already scheduled two movies in that month:
The Conjuring: The Devil Made Me Do It (June 4) and In The Heights (June 18) ?

The months of May, November and December have no WB movies scheduled yet
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: antonis on January 27, 2021, 10:10:46 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/CKjlGjjlHXV/?igshid=14w0kn9wlgiwd
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: AKA23 on January 27, 2021, 10:11:55 AM
HBO has released another trailer with looks at the upcoming films. There are a couple of shots from Cry Macho in here. It?s not very much. There is still no dialogue or extended scenes

https://www.slashfilm.com/new-footage-from-mortal-kombat-cry-macho-king-richard-more-arrives-in-hbo-max-teaser-video/
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: SamanMoradkhani on January 27, 2021, 10:22:34 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/CKjlGjjlHXV/?igshid=14w0kn9wlgiwd

Cinematography? TOP-NOTCH baby.
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: Christopher on January 27, 2021, 01:47:31 PM
Do you think that Cry Macho could be released in June, although Warner Bros has already scheduled two movies in that month:
The Conjuring: The Devil Made Me Do It (June 4) and In The Heights (June 18) ?

The months of May, November and December have no WB movies scheduled yet
It would make sense to try to spread the releases out a bit. Of course under normal circumstances they'd do it so their movies wouldn't be competing in theaters too much at the same time (or at least I don't think they'd release two big movies around the same time), but right now, they're also all going to HBO Max, so spreading them out makes sense for people who might want to subscribe for just a few movies.

I think The Matrix 4 is set to come out in December.
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: AKA23 on January 27, 2021, 02:15:30 PM
Assuming this is real, and I can't tell if it is or not, a 15 second teaser with some footage has been released, and there's some shooting!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?fbclid=IwAR2b7hy_dnfZ0pU7UHwM3Ah9M0ByKs_HoubPwCD6MW9pv-OaWGBdKbVr83w&v=MZ4suextVao&feature=youtu.be

Update: I think this is not real. These scenes with the shooting were in the original HBO max reel. I think they spliced together an unrelated scene from another movie that had shooting in it with the authentic footage of Cry Macho that was depicted in the earlier video.
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: SamanMoradkhani on January 27, 2021, 03:45:50 PM
Assuming this is real, and I can't tell if it is or not, a 15 second teaser with some footage has been released, and there's some shooting!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?fbclid=IwAR2b7hy_dnfZ0pU7UHwM3Ah9M0ByKs_HoubPwCD6MW9pv-OaWGBdKbVr83w&v=MZ4suextVao&feature=youtu.be

Update: I think this is not real. These scenes with the shooting were in the original HBO max reel. I think they spliced together an unrelated scene from another movie that had shooting in it with the authentic footage of Cry Macho that was depicted in the earlier video.

Yeah. I too think this is not a real teaser. at the same time, I don't know what movie are those shooting scenes from.
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: AKA23 on January 27, 2021, 05:23:02 PM
Yeah. I too think this is not a real teaser. at the same time, I don't know what movie are those shooting scenes from.

In one of the scenes with the shooting, I thought I saw an afro, so I looked through the HBO Max titles for 2021 and saw "Judas and the Black Messiah" and thought these clips might be from that. I was right. I watched the trailer for "Judas and the Black Messiah", and that scene is in the trailer for that film. It's not from "Cry Macho."
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: SamanMoradkhani on January 27, 2021, 11:48:28 PM
In one of the scenes with the shooting, I thought I saw an afro, so I looked through the HBO Max titles for 2021 and saw "Judas and the Black Messiah" and thought these clips might be from that. I was right. I watched the trailer for "Judas and the Black Messiah", and that scene is in the trailer for that film. It's not from "Cry Macho."

Thank you. I thought it might be from The Little Things, but you are right. Do you think that WB continue its tradition to release its films' trailers at the official theatrical of other WB pictures? They released The Mule's trailer just before A Star is Born opening.
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: antonis on January 30, 2021, 09:39:55 AM
https://www.instagram.com/p/CKrQyREgqRC/?igshid=1x2up9ao1p16n
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: Hammerhead on February 01, 2021, 12:08:58 PM
I hope I get to see this in the cinema.

I had assumed The Mule would be my last time seeing Clint on the big screen but possibly not.

To the best of my knowledge only one Clint starring film went ?straight to video? here in the UK, anybody want to take a guess? :)


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Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: AKA23 on February 01, 2021, 12:22:22 PM
"True Crime?"

A hint might help!
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: Hammerhead on February 01, 2021, 12:27:23 PM
No, True Crime did. ok here.

Well... think about the absolute low point of Clint?s career as an actor... not long before his finest hour. :)


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Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: AKA23 on February 01, 2021, 12:35:33 PM
No, True Crime did. ok here.

Well... think about the absolute low point of Clint?s career as an actor... not long before his finest hour. :)


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The Rookie.
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: Hammerhead on February 01, 2021, 12:51:30 PM
Very close! A film of similar quality from that era. :)


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Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: The Schofield Kid on February 01, 2021, 02:38:17 PM
Pink Cadillac?
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: Hammerhead on February 01, 2021, 03:29:00 PM
Pink Cadillac?
Correct!

Released May 1989 in the US, September 1991 on VHS in the UK.


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Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: Hocine on February 02, 2021, 01:15:11 AM
Correct!

Released May 1989 in the US, September 1991 on VHS in the UK.


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Pink Cadillac went straight to video in France too.
Warner Bros would have considered the movie as too American for the French audience.
It was also described as a poor version of Every Which Way But Loose.
I think that it was released at the same time than Indiana Jones and The Last Crusade in America.
The first time I saw Pink Cadillac was on tv.
I found it funny, actually. The bad guys were so ridiculous.
However, Pink Cadillac remains one of the worst Clint Eastwood movies of the eighties, with Any Which Way You Can, City Heat, The Dead Pool and Firefox.
Unfortunately, the three Clint Eastwood movies directed by Buddy Van Horn are among his worst:
Any Which Way You Can, The Dead Pool and Pink Cadillac.
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: KC on February 02, 2021, 03:49:53 PM
^ Good stuntman, though!
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: AKA23 on February 02, 2021, 04:03:18 PM
^ Good stuntman, though!

KC, and/or anyone else who may know, how did Buddy Van Horn become tasked with directing Clint Eastwood films? As a stuntman, this is not an obvious choice. What's the story on how and why that happened?
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: KC on February 02, 2021, 08:15:25 PM
All I can tell you is what Richard Schickel reported in his discussion of Any Which Way You Can (in Clint Eastwood, his biography from 1996, pages 374-375):

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The picture contains the only overt political statement Clint has ever made in a movie ("A handout is what you get from the government, a handup is what you get from a friend") and another sound-track duet, "Beers to You," with the star partnered this time by Ray Charles. Other than that, what is there to say? Only perhaps that it represented quite a decent directorial debut by Buddy Van Horn, Clint's longtime stunt coordinator. They had first worked together on Coogan's Bluff and Two Mules for Sister Sara, and, in their way, started to indicate mutual respect. "We kinda grunted at each other," is the way Van Horn puts it, "didn't say too much."

A soft-spoken, weather-beaten man of unshakable calm, Wayne Van Horn (to call him by his rightful name) was literally born into the business. His father was a veterinarian working and living on the Universal back lot, caring for the studio's menagerie, and Buddy grew up there, becoming a professional rider as soon as it was legal, then graduating to stunt work. He was, Clint judged, the ideal man to lead the troops through a film that was wall-to-wall "gags," as stuntpeople call even their unfunny work. If you like it you can direct it, Clint said when he called to say he was sending over the script. "I like it already," said Buddy.

The film profits from his uncondescending craftsmanship, and Buddy Van Horn profited from its success. He was not a man with a personal statement to make--one can only imagine the puzzled monosyllables that might greet a question on that topic--nor someone with a career to make; he was doing quite nicely with stunts, thank you. But he was, and is, a technically proficient moviemaker, the unabrasive spirit Clint had been looking for to guide low-key projects he didn't feel like directing himself. He would make two more films for Clint and continue to serve as his stunt coordinator and, since he is an expert player, Clint's location golfing partner.

Of two possible determining factors mentioned there, I don't know which is more significant: 1) Any Which Way You Can is almost non-stop "gags" (occasions for stunt performers) and might benefit from having a stuntman in charge, or 2) Buddy Van Horn is an excellent golfer and served as Clint's location golfing partner. Take your pick!
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: Gant on February 02, 2021, 11:53:02 PM
I?m not sure about France or the rest of Europe .. but Honkytonk Man got a very limited release in England...
Only one cinema in London I believe..

I saw it tho 😁
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: Hocine on February 03, 2021, 11:14:22 AM
^ Good stuntman, though!


Indeed, Buddy Van Horn was the stunt coordinator of many Clint Eastwood films and he used to be his stunt double

He worked with Clint from Coogan's Bluff to J.Edgar: an impressive career as a stuntman

He also played Marshall Jim Duncan in High Plains Drifter
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: Hocine on February 03, 2021, 12:09:13 PM
I?m not sure about France or the rest of Europe .. but Honkytonk Man got a very limited release in England...
Only one cinema in London I believe..

I saw it tho 😁


I think that Honkytonk Man got a very limited release in France too. It was probably considered as an art film.
When Honkytonk Man was released in France in 1983, only 50 371 tickets were sold. So it was not a box office hit.
For instance, when Pale Rider was released, more than 1 million tickets were sold.
The Good, The Bad and The Ugly is still his biggest box office hit in France, with more than 6 millions tickets sold.
As a director, his biggest box office hit in France is Gran Torino, with more than 3 millions tickets sold.
Million Dollar Baby, A Perfect World, Invictus and American Sniper are close to Gran Torino because each one has reached the 3 millions tickets sold.

However, Honkytonk Man was praised by the critics which compared it with John Ford's The Grapes of Wrath.
After Honkytonk Man, many critics started to take Clint's films seriously.
The first time I saw Honkytonk Man was on vhs, 23 years ago.
During the last thirteen years, I have seen Honkytonk Man many times on big screen.
It is one of my favourite Clint Eastwood films.

Cry Macho might be a little like Honkytonk Man.
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: Perry on February 04, 2021, 02:56:26 PM

     One of the moderators might want to upload this, but today I did see a teaser of cry macho .. If you go to Google and type in Cry Macho a 15 second trailer saying first look by HBO Max does show Eastwood and the kid in a scene walking... I'm having probs with my pc so you guys may want to check it out.... Eastwood looks freaking cool in the cowboy hat... !!!!...
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: AKA23 on February 04, 2021, 05:10:42 PM
Perry, that's not real. It almost got me too. I posted it, then began to doubt it was real, so I did some investigating and was able to determine that the shots of Eastwood were real, but the other part of it was not and had been spliced together using unrelated footage from "Judas and the Black Messiah."
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: AKA23 on February 04, 2021, 05:37:15 PM
This is categorized as a neo-Western, since it has "Western themes" but is set in the 1970s. But I've never really been onboard with that term. To me, if a film or a show is not set in the Western era, it doesn't feel like a true Western to me. Even things like "Yellowstone" that are set in present day that involve Western themes don't feel the same to me as a Western. Even "Hell and High Water" didn't to me. If it's not set in the Western era, it feels less like a Western than it does a movie or show that is a dramatic story that is either set in the South or that is about something centering around ranchers with people riding around on horses! What does everyone else think? Does anyone else feel similarly to me about the neo-Western concept?
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: Perry on February 05, 2021, 06:59:33 AM

     Aka23.. Really??.. What I saw was a trailer with Eastwood and a young kid holding a cockbird I would guess walking and another shot  of gun fire and a close up shot of Eastwood... Then the words of CRY MACHO... This was a short trailer for HBO Max.. Looked real to me.. I'm confused... Lol...
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: Hocine on February 05, 2021, 09:47:35 AM
This is categorized as a neo-Western, since it has "Western themes" but is set in the 1970s. But I've never really been onboard with that term. To me, if a film or a show is not set in the Western era, it doesn't feel like a true Western to me. Even things like "Yellowstone" that are set in present day that involve Western themes don't feel the same to me as a Western. Even "Hell and High Water" didn't to me. If it's not set in the Western era, it feels less like a Western than it does a movie or show that is a dramatic story that is either set in the South or that is about something centering around ranchers with people riding around on horses! What does everyone else think? Does anyone else feel similarly to me about the neo-Western concept?


I understand what you mean and I agree with you, AKA23

Anyway, this subject is really interesting
Actually, the Western genre is probably my favourite cinema genre

Logically, the Western genre is supposed to be about an era of American History, mostly in the nineteenth century, if I am correct
It is also about a geographical territory: America, of course, and especially the territory from Mississippi River to Pacific Ocean
That is what you probably called "the Western era", AKA23

There is a French expression for calling that era: "La Conquete de l'Ouest", literally The Conquest of the West

Cinema appeared around 1895, at the end of the Western era
The first American films, like The Great Train Robbery in 1903, and the American cinema in general were probably inspired by that era

So, many film critics talk about modern Western or neo-Western, when they talk about films which contain some Western themes, some Western codes or some Western spirit

For instance, I read many times that Dirty Harry is a modern Western or urban western
In many ways, Inspector Callahan acts like a cow boy or a marshall, or at least, how they were supposed to act
His sense of justice seems to be like the supposed sense of justice of the pioneers of the western era
For example, he does not hesitate to use his gun and to use violence, because of his sense of justice, like the pioneers of the western era were supposed to do

Even Bronco Billy is sometimes considered as a western because of the Wild West Show

Star Wars is usually considered as a western in the space

Even the Marvel films are sometimes considered as modern westerns

The Coen Brothers' No Country For Old Men looks like a western but it is not really a western at the same time

So, it is a rich and complex debate

Finally, you can put anything you want in the Western genre :)

To me, John Ford's Stagecoach, John Ford's The Searchers, Howard Hawks' Red River, Howard Hawks' Rio Bravo or Clint Eastwood's Unforgiven are probably what I consider like real westerns

At first, many film critics did not consider European westerns as real westerns, the Sergio Leone films included

In the other hand, there are some movies which take place in the Western era but do not look like a western at all
For instance, Don Siegel's The Beguiled is usually considered as a western but it is not really a western to me
Yes, it takes place in the Western era but it is more a gothic tale, it is not so far from a horror film
There is no cow boy, no saloon, no duel, no gunfight, no cow, no marshall, no prison, no main street, no horse ride

Michael Cimino's Heaven's Gate takes place in the Western era but does not look like a traditional western

Clint said that the Western genre is one of the two original American art forms with Jazz music
I think that he is probably right

The Western genre is authentically American but became universal
Everybody in the world is interested in the Western genre: in Europe, in Africa, in Asia, in Middle East, in South America, in Australia
Maybe because the western genre is about men who fight against other men or men who fight against forces of nature
They fight for survive, for their rights, for a land, for a woman
It is also about the good and the evil
The Western genre is also a great vehicle for masculinity

Sometimes, the Western genre is considered as dead
Maybe that's why some of the characters that Clint plays, in his own westerns, look like vengeful ghosts

So, could Cry Macho be a neo-Western ?
The presence of Clint Eastwood can influence our judgement because Clint is associated with the Western genre
When we saw the first pictures of Clint in Cry Macho, we started to talk about his hat and how it looks like the hat that he wore in Unforgiven
So, subconsciously or consciously, we can think about his westerns
We can't help it

Anyway, thank you for starting that interesting debate, AKA23 :)
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: Hocine on February 05, 2021, 10:00:58 AM
     Aka23.. Really??.. What I saw was a trailer with Eastwood and a young kid holding a cockbird I would guess walking and another shot  of gun fire and a close up shot of Eastwood... Then the words of CRY MACHO... This was a short trailer for HBO Max.. Looked real to me.. I'm confused... Lol...

Yes, that unofficial trailer was probably edited and posted in YouTube by someone

The shots come from Cry Macho and Judas and The Black Messiah

Judas and The Black Messiah is released next week

Only the shots where you see Clint are actually from Cry Macho
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Post by: Perry on February 05, 2021, 12:15:43 PM


    Ahhh...
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: Gant on February 05, 2021, 02:33:50 PM
Is Outland a space western ?
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: Hocine on February 05, 2021, 05:25:03 PM
Is Outland a ?space? western ?

If you talk about Outland with Sean Connery, this is a remake of High Noon.
So, yes, it could be seen as a space western.

High Noon is a 1952 western directed by Fred Zinnemann, starring Gary Cooper and Grace Kelly.

Howard Hawks did not like High Noon because of the way that sheriff Will Kane, portrayed by Gary Cooper, was written: during the film, the sheriff spent his time to ask for help but nobody in his town wanted to help him to fight three men who were just released from jail. Howard Hawks probably thought that a sheriff should not act like a coward but like a courageous man. Gary Cooper won a Best Actor Oscar for that role. High Noon is probably a critic of American society of the 1950?s and its obsession and fear of communism. It was the Cold War then.

The Western genre is a good way to talk about American society of present day, probably because you can put some distance with it. For instance, The Outlaw Josey Wales takes place just after the American Civil War but could be about other wars like Vietnam War.

Howard Hawks made Rio Bravo in 1959 in reaction to High Noon.
In Rio Bravo, John Wayne portrayed a sheriff named John T. Chance, who spent his time to reject the help offered by some characters to fight his enemies. He acted like a brave man.
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: Gant on February 06, 2021, 01:26:12 AM
I?m very excited to see what has drawn Eastwood to this new character in Cry Macho..
I really enjoyed The Mule and Eastwoods  performance and thought it quite a departure for him...
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: AKA23 on February 06, 2021, 09:45:58 AM
Hocine, thanks so much, that was an excellent post explaining how you interpret the neo-western concept. I think for me, if a film is not set in the historical period that Westerns usually depict (what I referred to as the "Western era"), it doesn't have the feel of a true Western to me. I wouldn't consider movies like "The Beguiled" or "Bronco Billy" to be Westerns, but I do think that the Dollars films are westerns. I am kind of struggling to understand what makes something a neo-Western. For those that know about film (where is Holden when we need him?) are there agreed upon elements that if satisfied will make something fall into that category, or is it an ill defined, mostly subjective concept that is in the eye of the beholder? What makes something a neo-Western, beyond it being transplanted to another time outside the traditionally Western historical period, and perhaps having stories centering around cowboys, or characters who dress in western attire?

For example, "The Horse Whisperer" is a film where Robert Redford is a horse trainer who falls in love with a woman. He walks around wearing a cowboy hat and there are scenes of horses and ranches and the like, but it's primarily a love story. Is that a neo-Western? Why or why not? What about "Dallas Buyers Club," which is a flim startting Matthew Mcoughaney (sp) as a rodeo star who develops AIDS and then seeks to import medication illegally to treat the condition? He walks around in cowboy boots and a cowboy hat, and the film is again set in Texas. Is that also a neo-western or not? Is it not because it's not Western themed? And, what does it mean to be Western-themed? Hocine has pointed out a struggle between good guys and bad guys, and a sense of justice being involved. I agree those are present in a lot of westerns, but a lot of movies also center around those themes that are not Westerns.

And, in what way is "Cry Macho" actually Western themed? Clint plays a horse breeder and rodeo star, and he walks around in Western attire, but the film is also descirbed as an "adventure drama." Clint Eastwood is iconically associated with the Western, but the story centers around an old man who brings a young man to be reunited with his father. In what ways is that a Neo-western? The definition and criteria are not very clear to me.
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: Hocine on February 09, 2021, 08:43:35 AM
You are welcome, AKA23
I understand your point of view, which is not so different from mine.
I also think that the Dollars film are westerns but less traditional than Rawhide, for example.
By the way, Rawhide is perhaps the most traditional western in which Clint Eastwood has ever appeared.
It is the TV version of Howard Hawks Red River.
I have the feeling that for many people including me, the Western has something to do with the American tradition,
the American mentality, the American roots or Americanas.
The Western era is over a long time ago but some roots remain from that era.

When those roots are in some non-western films, then some critics could qualify them as neo-Westerns.

The Horse Whisperer is not a western to me but as you said, AKA23, a love story.
The fact that Robert Redford walks around with a cowboy hat and a Western attire is not enough to make The Horse Whisperer a western.
In many ways, it is the Robert Redford version of The Bridges of Madison County.
Actually, Richard LaGravenese wrote the scripts of The Bridges of Madison County and The Horse Whisperer both.

Dallas Buyers Club is not a western to me but a social drama.

An other example: American Sniper.
To me, it is a drama, a war movie and a character study.
However, I read some critics which made some parallels between American Sniper and the Western.
For instance, in the flashback scenes, Chris Kyle s father told his sons that there were three types of men in the world: the wolves (the bad guys), the sheeps (the victims) and the sheep dogs (the good guys).
This is a very simple vision that could be from a western.
When he was a young boy, Chris Kyle went hunting with his father and learned how to use a rifle and how to shoot.
Guns and rifles are important in the Western.
Then, Chris Kyle, played by Bradley Cooper, grew up and became a rodeo star: we see him wearing a cowboy hat and boots.
When he became a Navy SEAL, he went to Iraq, which is like the new Far West.
The US army replaced the cowboys and the enemies from the Middle East were like the Apaches, according to some critics.
So, American Sniper is a good example of a movie which is not actually a western but in which we can find many references about the Western.
At the end of the film, Bradley Cooper takes a gun and jokes with his wife.
That gun looked very old and could have been from a western.
I think that Clint used it for one of his westerns, I do not know which one, maybe Hang em High but I am not sure.

Those Who Wish Me Dead, a Warner Bros film with Angelina Jolie to be released this year, is qualified as a female neo-Western.

Cry Macho, is it a neo-Western or not ?
I think that it will be a drama and probably a road movie at first.
Maybe there could be some references about Clint Eastwood films and especially westerns.

The Marksman with Liam Neeson and directed by Robert Lorenz, is also considered as a neo-Western.
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: Hocine on February 09, 2021, 08:51:29 AM
I?m very excited to see what has drawn Eastwood to this new character in Cry Macho..
I really enjoyed The Mule and Eastwoods  performance and thought it quite a departure for him...

Yes, I hope that we will have a release date and a trailer soon
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: AKA23 on February 09, 2021, 06:03:41 PM
Another excellent post, Hocine. I had not picked up on the thematical similarities you point out between the western and "American Sniper." 

Gant, Cry Macho and one other film are the only two movies HBO  has not announced release dates for in 2021, so I too keep hoping we'll see and hear something soon. I'm also looking forward to seeing what attracted Clint to this project after thirty years. To me, every film he acts in feels like such a gift. I'd much rather see a new movie he acts in than one in which he only directs, so it's always a thrill for me to see a new Clint performance. Every time I feel like he's done, he grants us another unexpected performance!
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: Gant on February 10, 2021, 03:08:43 AM
Yeah, I remember your first reaction to The Mule, it made we wanna see it all the more and I wasnt disappointed.
Im really looking forward to seeing Cry Macho.... do we know if itll get any kind of theatrical release.. ?
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: Hocine on February 11, 2021, 06:22:34 AM
Another excellent post, Hocine. I had not picked up on the thematical similarities you point out between the western and "American Sniper." 

Gant, Cry Macho and one other film are the only two movies HBO  has not announced release dates for in 2021, so I too keep hoping we'll see and hear something soon. I'm also looking forward to seeing what attracted Clint to this project after thirty years. To me, every film he acts in feels like such a gift. I'd much rather see a new movie he acts in than one in which he only directs, so it's always a thrill for me to see a new Clint performance. Every time I feel like he's done, he grants us another unexpected performance!

Thank you, AKA23
The other movie HBO has not announced a release date for in 2021, must be Reminiscence with Hugh Jackman.
It is also a thrill for me to see a new Clint performance.

By the way, do you consider Clint as an actor or a director first ?
I asked myself that question so many times but I did not find a definitive answer.

Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: AKA23 on February 11, 2021, 10:43:11 AM
As a fan, I most appreciate Eastwood as an actor. With the exception of Eastwood's films, I really don't pay attention to the directorial styles of filmmakers. I'll notice the quality of the acting, the script, and the musical score, but as a viewer, I don't scrutinize or deeply analyze the technical aspects of filmmaking. With Eastwood, I am much more knowledgeable about how he directs and recurring themes in his work and how he treats music, the cinematography, the pacing of the story, etc. I do appreciate those aspects of his work, but I still get the most joy out of watching him act.

If you are talking about his place in film history, I think there's no question that he's more respected as a director. I think the average filmgoer would probably, like me, consider him to be an actor first, but I think most people in the filmmaking community would likely consider him as a director first.

Your question made me remember a thread I started years ago where we had a thought-provoking discussion here on the board about whether people thought he was a better actor or director that you might enjoy reviewing. Here's the link: http://www.clinteastwood.org/forums/index.php?topic=9252.msg204612#msg204612
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: Hocine on February 13, 2021, 01:10:11 PM
Thank you for your answer and for the link of that thread, AKA23
Indeed, that was a pretty good discussion

The Good, The Bad and The Ugly and For A Few Dollars More are probably the first two Clint Eastwood films that I have seen in my life. I was 8 years old then. So, I was familiar with Clint Eastwood as an actor at first.
Moreover, the fact that Clint starred in most of the films that he directed until Mystic River or even Flags of Our Fathers, did not make a big difference to me then: the actor was almost everywhere.
I think that when I was 10 or 11 years old, I was conscious about the fact that Clint was also a director.
However, I do not think that I exactly knew the definition of directing.
In The Line Of Fire is the first Clint Eastwood film that I have seen in a movie theater.
I was 11 years old.
The Bridges of Madison County is the first film directed by Clint that I have seen in movie theater.
I was 13 years old.

Today, I admire Clint Eastwood films as an actor and as a director.

I think that in the sixties and the seventies, most of Clint Eastwood best acting performances were under the direction of other directors (Sergio Leone, Don Siegel, Brian G.Hutton, Michael Cimino, Ted Post).
From the eighties to present day, Clint Eastwood best acting performances were under his own direction.

I find that the evolution of Clint Eastwood career is one of the most fascinating in film history.

At first, he was considered as an actor with a limited range but with physical skills which were exploited in westerns and action films.
For example, Luciano Vincenzoni, the screenwriter of For A Few Dollars More, said that Clint was not a great actor but was physically perfect for the role of the man with no name, which made him a star. He also added that Clint was really a fast draw. He had never seen an other actor draw his gun like Clint, although he worked in many other films with many other actors.
Luciano Vincenzoni considered Clint as a great director and as a star.

When Clint became a director, the film critics and the profession became more interested in his work.
The audience made Clint a movie star.
Clint Eastwood work as a director made him a respected man of cinema.

Clint was more awarded for his work as a director than for his work as an actor.

I think that Clint is a man who knows his limitations as an actor. He knows what it works for him and what it does not work.
Since he became a respected director, Clint seems not to want to be directed by an other director with some rare exceptions.

I still think that actor Clint Eastwood is the most powerful element of movies directed by Clint.
That is why it is not so easy to separate the actor and the director.

The best Clint Eastwood performances under the direction of other directors are:
A Fistful Of Dollars, For A Few Dollars More, The Good The Bad and The Ugly, Hang em High, Coogan s Bluff, Two Mules For Sister Sara, Kelly s Heroes, The Beguiled, Dirty Harry, Magnum Force, Thunderbolt and Lightfoot, Escape From Alcatraz, In The Line Of Fire

The best Clint Eastwood performances under his own direction are:
Play Misty For Me, High Plains Drifter, The Outlaw Josey Wales, The Gauntlet, Bronco Billy, Honkytonk Man, Sudden Impact, Tightrope, Pale Rider, Heartbreak Ridge, White Hunter Black Heart, Unforgiven, A Perfect World, The Bridges of Madison County, Million Dollar Baby, Gran Torino, The Mule
I hope that I will able to put Cry Macho on that list

The best films directed by Clint and in which he did not star are:
Breezy, Bird, Mystic River, Flags Of Our Fathers, Letters From Iwo Jima, Changeling, Invictus, J.Edgar, American Sniper, Sully, Richard Jewell





Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: honkytonkman on February 14, 2021, 02:53:30 PM
Hocine, you don't mention "Midnight in the garden of good and evil" . I love that film, must have seen 4 or 5 times.
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: KC on February 14, 2021, 09:01:45 PM
Hocine, you don't mention "Midnight in the garden of good and evil" . I love that film, must have seen 4 or 5 times.


I also think that one tends to be underrated. Among other things, it makes great use of the songs of Johnny Mercer.
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: Hocine on February 15, 2021, 10:48:46 AM
You are absolutely right, Honkytonkman and KC

Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil is probably underrated.
I have to admit that I missed it when it was released in France in March 1998.
I remember that Clint Eastwood received a Cesar Award (the French Oscars) for his career as a director in February 1998. Director Jean-Luc Godard presented it to him.
Clint Eastwood read a speech in French: it was funny.
I have seen Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil some years later on VHS.
However, I have seen it many times on big screen, during some Clint Eastwood retrospectives during the last 12 years.
Clint seemed to enjoy the shooting of that film: we can see some footage of that shooting in Richard Schickel documentary ? Eastwood on Eastwood ?, which was narrated by John Cusack.
It was something that he had rarely did before: an atmosphere picture, almost experimental for him.
It is a movie about a strange place, Savannah, Georgia, and its people.
It is also about tolerance.
That movie seemed far from Clint universe, if compared to Absolute Power, True Crime, Space Cowboys or Blood Work.
French magazine Positif supported Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil.
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: KC on February 15, 2021, 04:35:13 PM
I think it's very much about Clint striking out in a new and unexpected direction, something he's done throughout his career. By contrast, the four others you mention that were made around then (Absolute Power, True Crime, Space Cowboys and Blood Work) are more closely tied to the popular genres he's associated with ... though Space Cowboys, which isn't really Western-related despite the title, was also a departure in its way.
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: honkytonkman on February 15, 2021, 05:11:27 PM
My selection :


Best Clint performance for another director's film :

1. The beguiled
2. A fistful of dollars
3. Escape from Alcatraz
4. Dirty Harry
5. In the line of fire
6. The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
7. Coogan's Bluff
8. For a few dollars more
9. Tightrope
10. Hang'em high

Best Clint performance in a Clint film :

1. Unforgiven
2. Honkytonk Man
3. Bridges of Madison County
4. True Crime
5. Gran Torino
6. The Gauntlet
7. Bronco Billy
8. Play Misty for Me
9. Absolute Power
10. The Mule


Best Clint film with Clint :

1. Unforgiven
2. Honkytonk Man
3. The Outlaw Josey Wales
4. Million Dollar Baby
5. White Hunter, Black Heart
6. Bridges of Madison County
7. A Perfect World
8. Pale Rider
9. Bronco Billy
10. High Plain Drifter

Best Clint film without Clint

1. Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil
2. Mystic River
3. Sully
4. Changelling
5. Breezy
6. Flags of our Fathers
7. Letters from Iwo Jima
8. Bird
9. Richard Jewell
10. Hereafter


Best Clint music for a Clint film :

1. Unforgiven
2. Million Dollar Baby
3. Mystic River
4. Flags of our fathers
5. Bridges of Madison County
6. Gran Torino
7, Changelling
8. Sully
9. The 15:17 fo Paris
10. Hereafter

The worst films of his career

1. The 15:17 to Paris
2. Pink Cadillac
3. Blood Work
4. The Dead Pool
5. City Heat
6. Trouble with the Curve
7. Any Witch Way you can
8. Tarentulla
9. Revenge of the Creature
10. Lafayette Escadrille
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: SamanMoradkhani on February 17, 2021, 04:26:32 AM
According to IMDB, the American film score composer, Mark Mancina is in charge of Cry Macho's music. It's a great choice.  :smitten:
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: Hocine on February 17, 2021, 08:09:53 AM
According to IMDB, the American film score composer, Mark Mancina is in charge of Cry Macho's music. It's a great choice.  :smitten:

Yes, this is the first time that Mark Mancina works for Clint.
Mancina composed the music of Speed, Bad Boys, Twister and Training Day.
He worked for some Disney films like Tarzan or Moana.
According to Wikipedia, Mark Mancina lives in Carmel.
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: Hocine on February 17, 2021, 08:22:40 AM
Thank you for your detailed lists, Honkytonkman

I think that I share most of your choices.

First of all, we can see that Sergio Leone and Don Siegel were the most influential directors in Clint Eastwood career.

About Tightrope, which was officially directed by Richard Tuggle, many books and studies said that it was actually directed by Clint.
Although there is no explicit statement about it, there are many clues given by those books and studies that can make us think that Clint was the true director of Tightrope. In fact, Richard Tuggle would have been uncomfortable with the shooting of some scenes, especially the scenes with Alison Eastwood: directing her in the presence of Clint would not have been easy for Richard Tuggle.
Plus, Tuggle had no experience about the technical aspects of filmmaking.
So, after some days of shooting, Clint would have replaced Richard Tuggle.
However, Clint would have allowed him to stay on the set during the rest of the shooting.
Finally, Tuggle was credited as the director of Tightrope: probably because Clint wanted to avoid some troubles with the Directors Guild of America and maybe because of the explicit content of the film.
In my selection, I considered Tightrope as a film directed by Clint.

My selection:

Best Clint performance for another director's film:

1. The Good The Bad and The Ugly
2. Dirty Harry
3. The Beguiled
4. A Fistful of Dollars
5. Escape From Alcatraz
6. For A Few Dollars More
7. Thunderbolt and Lightfoot
8. In the Line of Fire
9. Hang'em High
10. Coogan's Bluff

Best Clint performance in a Clint film:

1. Unforgiven
2. Million Dollar Baby
3. The Outlaw Josey Wales
4. Honkytonk Man
5. Bronco Billy
6. The Bridges of Madison County
7. Heartbreak Ridge
8. White Hunter Black Heart
9. Play Misty for Me
10. Tightrope

Best Clint film with Clint:

1. Unforgiven
2. Million Dollar Baby
3. The Outlaw Josey Wales
4. A Perfect World
5. Honkytonk Man
6. High Plains Drifter
7. The Bridges of Madison County
8. Bronco Billy
9. Pale Rider
10. Gran Torino

Best Clint film without Clint:

1. Bird
2. Mystic River
3. Letters From Iwo Jima
4. Flags of Our Fathers
5. Changeling
6. Breezy
7. American Sniper
8. Richard Jewell
9. Sully
10. J.Edgar

Best Clint music for a Clint film:

1. Unforgiven (Claudia's Theme)
2. Million Dollar Baby
3. The Bridges of Madison County (Doe Eyes Theme)
4. Mystic River
5. A Perfect World (Big Fran's Baby Theme)
6. Changeling
7. Flags of Our Fathers
8. Absolute Power (Kate's Theme)
9. Space Cowboys (Espacio Theme)
10. True Crime (Why Should I Care Theme)

The worst films of his career (I did not consider the films of the 1950's because Clint had no significant roles with the exception of Ambush at Cimarron Pass and The First Travelling Saleslady)

1. The 15:17 to Paris
2. Pink Cadillac
3. Any Which Way You Can
4. The Dead Pool
5. City Heat
6. The Rookie
7. Firefox
8. Joe Kidd
9. The Eiger Sanction
10. The Enforcer
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: AKA23 on February 17, 2021, 08:43:03 AM
Good news on the composer, although it is a bit disappointing that it appears it won?t be Arturo Sandoval. I really liked his score for The Mule. This is some pretty exciting news because I think it means that Clint likely has a rough cut of the film now. When he hired Sandoval, he showed him the film before hiring him to do the score.

As for Mancini, it appears he was one of the composers for Criminal Minds, and I?m a big fan of that show.
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Post by: exit00 on February 17, 2021, 06:37:06 PM
Wow... can't believe I've been away from this great site for so long and just finding out about this now!!  Really looking forward to seeing this one (of course I pretty much say this everytime a Eastwood film comes out).  Like others have said, this movie makes me think of a cross between A Perfect World and Honkytonk Man.
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: Hocine on February 22, 2021, 01:18:53 AM
Cry Macho is the only Warner Bros film of 2021 whose release date is still to be determined
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: Gant on February 22, 2021, 04:25:15 AM
I guess theyre just having to wait till Clint says  the film is complete..
I remember a Warner?s exec some years ago saying a Clint Eastwood film is ready when the man says it?s ready... 😁
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: Hocine on February 23, 2021, 08:32:28 AM
I guess theyre just having to wait till Clint says  the film is complete..
I remember a Warner?s exec some years ago saying a Clint Eastwood film is ready when the man says it?s ready... 😁

That is a funny anecdote, Gant :)

The Mule and Richard Jewell were released five months after the end of shooting
Cry Macho will be probably released in the second half of 2021
It also depends on how Warners executives will take it: a crowd pleaser, oscar worthy or both ?
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: batfunk2 on March 06, 2021, 12:39:17 PM
Yes, this is the first time that Mark Mancina works for Clint.
Mancina composed the music of Speed, Bad Boys, Twister and Training Day.
He worked for some Disney films like Tarzan or Moana.
According to Wikipedia, Mark Mancina lives in Carmel.

Carmel? Haha, Clint is becoming lazy, he probably meets Mancina each weekend at the supermarket  ;D
I don't blame him, he's 90... ;)
Well, I will regret Sandoval too, but it will be a challenge for Mancina after all those blockbusters. I hope he will not forget it will be an intimate movie. If not, Clint will reminds him of it :knuppel2:
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: Hocine on March 10, 2021, 06:12:22 AM
Carmel? Haha, Clint is becoming lazy, he probably meets Mancina each weekend at the supermarket  ;D
I don't blame him, he's 90... ;)
Well, I will regret Sandoval too, but it will be a challenge for Mancina after all those blockbusters. I hope he will not forget it will be an intimate movie. If not, Clint will reminds him of it :knuppel2:

I do not know, Batfunk2
Maybe Arturo Sandoval was just unavailable, like cinematographer Yves Belanger
I am curious to know how Mark Mancina and Ben Davis got to work with Clint
Because of the pandemic, Clint had to adapt his work
Ben Davis and Mark Mancina have some good experience in movie business
So, I am optimistic for the work that they will bring to Cry Macho
I wonder if Joel Cox is the editor
I hope that we will know Cry Macho release date and have more elements very soon
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: batfunk2 on March 10, 2021, 07:59:10 AM
Hocine, about Eastwood's lazyness, "je plaisante is" :p As James Brown , he's the hardest working man in showbusiness ;)You're surely right about the pandemic, Clint had to adapt to it.
I'm sure Bocina is competent but talented? I don't know his work.i'm not worried about the score because Music is discreet in recent  Eastwood movies. I love his homemade musical patterns but, for me, the last great original  soundtrack  was Lalo Schifrin's Sudden impact.
Lennie Niehaus work was adequate, no more, I prefer his jazz albums.
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: Hocine on March 10, 2021, 10:56:00 AM
I like the music that Lalo Schifrin did for Sudden Impact too: in particular, the music which opens the film, This Side of Forever song, sung by Roberta Flack and the music that we can hear when Harry reappears like a vengeful angel at the end of the film.
The partnership between Clint and Schifrin was very effective: Coogan's Bluff, Kelly's Heroes, The Beguiled, Dirty Harry, Joe Kidd, Magnum Force, Sudden Impact and The Dead Pool.

I think that today, Lalo Schifrin can easily be connected with Clint, like Ennio Morricone.

However, Lennie Niehaus' contribution to Clint films, in the music department, was actually so tremendous.
He surely helped to redefine and shape the atmosphere of Clint films, from Tightrope to Blood Work.
He orchestrated the music of The Outlaw Josey Wales, The Enforcer, the Gauntlet and Escape From Alcatraz.
Lennie Niehaus also orchestrated all the Clint films from Mystic River to Gran Torino. What a great career !

Lennie Niehaus was really a key element of Clint Eastwood films.
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: AKA23 on March 22, 2021, 04:22:54 PM
The release date for "Cry Macho" has been announced and it's quite a ways off from now. This is a little disappointing for me, but at least we know when it's coming out now!

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Warner Bros. will open Cry Macho from Clint Eastwood on Oct. 22. The multi-Oscar winner will star and direct the feature based on N. Richard Nash?s novel.

The pic will hit theaters and HBO Max day-and-date as that?s Warner Bros.? plan for its 2021 slate.

https://deadline.com/2021/03/clint-eastwoods-cry-macho-sets-fall-release-1234719584/
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: KC on March 22, 2021, 10:04:52 PM
Good work, AKA! I was coming here to post the same information from a different source:

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Cry Macho, the neo-western and potential awards contender directed by and starring Clint Eastwood, will open via Warner Bros in the US on October 22 this year.

The 1978-set film will also debut on Warner Bros' stablemate HBO Max for a limited period.

https://www.screendaily.com/news/clint-eastwood-neo-western-cry-macho-gets-october-2021-release-date/5158315.article
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Post by: SamanMoradkhani on March 22, 2021, 10:49:44 PM
It's an awards favorite date. fingers crossed.
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Post by: honkytonkman on March 23, 2021, 01:59:24 AM
I bet that Eastwood will have shot another film in the meantime ... The date in any case allows us to hope for a return of the public to theaters at this time, and to put forward the hypothesis that, for the "usual" public of Eastwood, the desire to see this film at the cinema will be greater than the desire to see it on HBO. Personally, I will be in favor of a total boycott of HBO, because of their horrible pseudo-documentary "AllenVFarrow". #LeavingFarrowland.
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Post by: The Schofield Kid on March 23, 2021, 02:08:44 AM
It's an awards favorite date. fingers crossed.

Talking awards, six months before a film is even released.  Fair dinkum.  ::) ::)
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Post by: SamanMoradkhani on March 23, 2021, 10:30:27 AM
Talking awards, six months before a film is even released.  Fair dinkum.  ::) ::)

It's just fall release. it's already the headline of so many websites  :)
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Post by: Hocine on March 23, 2021, 04:21:28 PM
It's an awards favorite date. fingers crossed.

Though it is too soon for any speculation, I agree with the fact that October 22 is a pretty good release date for the Oscars voters consideration.
Of course, that does not mean that Cry Macho will be an Oscar contender.
On the other hand, why did Warner Bros decide to release it on October 22, if it has no Oscar potential ?
Anyway, it would be great if Clint got an Oscar nomination for Best Actor at least :)
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Post by: AKA23 on March 23, 2021, 05:03:53 PM
This release date does indicate to me confidence in the quality of the movie. In my opinion, this is being done for one of two reasons, and I don't know which one fits.

Clint and Warner Bros have confidence in the film and want to release it in the Fall because they think it has the potential to be popular with audiences and want to maximize the box office potential for the movie by releasing it at a time when theaters are closer to fully open. Or, Clint and Warners think this could have Oscar potential and want to release it during the classic widow for Oscar-calibre films.

"The Mule" was released in December of 2018, and that was done because of box office potential, so it's not a foregone conclusion that this is being done to compete for Oscars. But, this is a pretty long time to hold the film given that it is likely already completed, or will be within the next few months. There's a reason that they're deciding to release it in October. If Warners wasn't happy with it, they'd likely want to release it as soon as it was completed. They're clearly not doing that.
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Post by: batfunk2 on March 23, 2021, 07:00:26 PM
I'm confident in the movie because of  screenwriter Nick Schenk(Gran Torino, The Mule) and, thanks god, it's not a real story again.
Of course, some ones were pretty good movies(Sully, The Mule)  or very good ones(Richard Jewell, American Sniper) but i was fed up with,personnaly.I think that original stories or novel adaptations are more creative, Reality can be boring sometimes.

Let's face it,  Clint is very old, we don't know for how many years  he will be able to direct,...  :-[ I hope he Will spend his last directing years to beloved projects and/or never achieved ones(if he got one of those)   O0

 And for christ sake, a Last western, even if many consider Unforgiven  unsurpassed(rightfully) ...  :D
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Post by: SamanMoradkhani on March 23, 2021, 10:33:50 PM
Though it is too soon for any speculation, I agree with the fact that October 22 is a pretty good release date for the Oscars voters consideration.
Of course, that does not mean that Cry Macho will be an Oscar contender.
On the other hand, why did Warner Bros decide to release it on October 22, if it has no Oscar potential ?
Anyway, it would be great if Clint got an Oscar nomination for Best Actor at least :)

That would be a 16 year-old dream come true again :) Award season is nothing but boring for me if there is no Clint in it.
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Post by: SamanMoradkhani on March 23, 2021, 10:40:43 PM
This release date does indicate to me confidence in the quality of the movie. In my opinion, this is being done for one of two reasons, and I don't know which one fits.

Clint and Warner Bros have confidence in the film and want to release it in the Fall because they think it has the potential to be popular with audiences and want to maximize the box office potential for the movie by releasing it at a time when theaters are closer to fully open. Or, Clint and Warners think this could have Oscar potential and want to release it during the classic widow for Oscar-calibre films.

"The Mule" was released in December of 2018, and that was done because of box office potential, so it's not a foregone conclusion that this is being done to compete for Oscars. But, this is a pretty long time to hold the film given that it is likely already completed, or will be within the next few months. There's a reason that they're deciding to release it in October. If Warners wasn't happy with it, they'd likely want to release it as soon as it was completed. They're clearly not doing that.

I agree with you AKA23. the surprising thing is that WB has decided to release Cry Macho after Dune, maybe one of WB's most awardY film of 2021. Only 2 films are left to be released after Cry Macho by WB: King Richard and Matrix4.
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Post by: Hocine on March 24, 2021, 08:08:47 AM
I agree with you AKA23. the surprising thing is that WB has decided to release Cry Macho after Dune, maybe one of WB's most awardY film of 2021. Only 2 films are left to be released after Cry Macho by WB: King Richard and Matrix4.

Dune looks like a blockbuster with some artistic qualities, like Blade Runner 2049 or Mad Max: Fury Road.
Matrix 4 could have that same profile.
However, this type of films rarely get anything else than some awards in the technical department.
On the paper, Dune seems one of the best Oscars hopes for Warner Bros next year, with Cry Macho and King Richard.

Oscar worthy or not, Cry Macho will be a must-see for all the movie goers who admire Clint Eastwood films and who follow his career for a long time.
The Mule and Gran Torino are great films but Cry Macho looks very special. Very intriguing.
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Post by: Christopher on March 24, 2021, 01:08:18 PM
I just happened to see the release date today for Cry Macho, but it doesn't surprise me that it was reported here the other day when it was announced (has it really been two days since I'd been on the board? :D ;D). Hopefully theaters across the country will be open by then.

Though I'll admit that HBO Max will be tempting for this movie. Maybe once we get a trailer I'll know what I want to do there.
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Post by: Macpherson on April 21, 2021, 11:28:14 AM
Cry Macho "completed" on IMDb and rated pg-13 "for language and thematic elements".   ;)

https://screen-connections.com/2021/04/20/cara-mpa-film-ratings-bulletin-04-21-21-the-conjuring-3-cry-macho/?amp
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Post by: SamanMoradkhani on April 21, 2021, 11:56:38 PM
Cry Macho "completed" on IMDb and rated pg-13 "for language and thematic elements".   ;)

https://screen-connections.com/2021/04/20/cara-mpa-film-ratings-bulletin-04-21-21-the-conjuring-3-cry-macho/?amp

What is thematic elements?  :idiot2:
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Post by: Hocine on April 22, 2021, 06:35:57 PM
What is thematic elements?  :idiot2:

Those thematic elements may be about violence, delinquency or sexual issue
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Post by: Hocine on April 22, 2021, 06:47:15 PM
Cry Macho, N. Richard Nash novel, will be released on September 14, 2021

It will cost 17.00 $ in paperback format and 10.17 $ in kindle format

You can pre-order it on Amazon
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Post by: Christopher on April 23, 2021, 10:09:39 AM
Cry Macho, N. Richard Nash novel, will be released on September 14, 2021

It will cost 17.00 $ in paperback format and 10.17 $ in kindle format

You can pre-order it on Amazon
Cool. O0
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Post by: Macpherson on April 25, 2021, 05:12:50 PM

This year is the 50th anniversary of "Play Misty for Me" , Clint's directorial debut, which premiered on 20th October 1971.
"Cry Macho", released on 22nd October, 2021 will mark a milestone for Clint... 50 years as a motion picture director.
Did this influence the release date for the new movie and will the golden anniversary be employed in the marketing of "Cry Macho"?
Thoughts?
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Post by: The Schofield Kid on April 25, 2021, 08:01:13 PM

Did this influence the release date for the new movie and will the golden anniversary be employed in the marketing of "Cry Macho"?
Thoughts?

Maybe but I don?t think so. Does Clint have a say when a film gets released? My understanding was he films what he wants then hands it over to Warner Bros and it?s the execs who decide when to release it.
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Post by: AKA23 on April 26, 2021, 12:25:38 PM
Macpherson, I didn't know that "Play Misty for Me" was released in October, so good catch that it would be Eastwood's 50th anniversary as a director. Like SK, I feel like this is probably a coincidence. Since Eastwood doesn't really like to celebrate his birthday, according to his kids, and also doesn't seem to like to draw a lot of attention to himself generally, preferring to let the work speak for itself, I feel like he probably wouldn't want to reference his 50th anniversary in promotional material for "Cry Macho."
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Post by: Perry on April 26, 2021, 01:30:12 PM


          What's even more amazing and scary is 2 months later Dirty Harry was released... Time flies...
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Post by: SamanMoradkhani on April 28, 2021, 06:16:47 AM
Maybe but I don?t think so. Does Clint have a say when a film gets released? My understanding was he films what he wants then hands it over to Warner Bros and it?s the execs who decide when to release it.

I can recall an interview from one of WB's executives in which he was so specific on the issue of Clint Eastwood films that 'it's always when and where Clint says."
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Post by: Perry on April 28, 2021, 08:24:20 PM


Personally I could care less if Eastwood's film is released in any month or time because it can be Oscar worthy. Hollywood is so ruined that I don't see Eastwood ever being nominated for anything ever again. At this point in Eastwood's life and career I'm happy the guy is still around and can make a movie which I hope I can enjoy. The dude is going to be 91 in a month and has done everything that no one will ever achieve in that dopey town. If Eastwood can make a movie a year until he can't anymore that's good enough for me. Who cares about awards ...
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Post by: Hocine on April 30, 2021, 05:17:19 AM

Personally I could care less if Eastwood's film is released in any month or time because it can be Oscar worthy. Hollywood is so ruined that I don't see Eastwood ever being nominated for anything ever again. At this point in Eastwood's life and career I'm happy the guy is still around and can make a movie which I hope I can enjoy. The dude is going to be 91 in a month and has done everything that no one will ever achieve in that dopey town. If Eastwood can make a movie a year until he can't anymore that's good enough for me. Who cares about awards ...


Absolutely. I agree with you, Perry.
Clint has nothing to prove in movie business for a long time. He is just lucky to keep working as long as he can.
He is still interested in making movies. That is amazing and quite unprecedented.
I just hope that Cry Macho will be a good movie, if not a great one.
However, if Cry Macho had to be nominated at the next Oscars, it would be fine. Even if Clint does not need Oscars.
Some days ago, Anthony Hopkins won his second Best Actor Oscar, 29 years after his first one.
Anthony Hopkins did not need that second Oscar, and he said that he did not expect to win it, but it was great for him.
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Post by: AKA23 on June 25, 2021, 12:53:26 PM
Warner Bros has decided to move the release date for "Cry Macho" up from October 22nd to September 17th.

https://deadline.com/2021/06/dune-many-saints-of-newark-sopranos-release-date-changes-warner-bros-1234781687/#comments
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Post by: SamanMoradkhani on June 26, 2021, 06:42:45 AM
Warner Bros has decided to move the release date for "Cry Macho" up from October 22nd to September 17th.

https://deadline.com/2021/06/dune-many-saints-of-newark-sopranos-release-date-changes-warner-bros-1234781687/#comments
I have mixed feelings about this decision actually. at one hand, Cry Macho is not better positioned for a successful box office; it was previously set for Oct.22 against movies like Last Night in Soho, French Dispatch and Jackass4. But now, Cry Macho can claim first spot of box office for at least one week. at other hand, September release I think lowers movie's award chances. I hope I am wrong. As deadline reported, Cry Macho could land in either TIFF, Venice Film Festival, or Telluride.
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Post by: Christopher on June 26, 2021, 09:18:35 AM
That's good news! O0 Now we're within three months of its release.
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Post by: Hocine on June 26, 2021, 07:08:46 PM
I have mixed feelings about this decision actually. at one hand, Cry Macho is not better positioned for a successful box office; it was previously set for Oct.22 against movies like Last Night in Soho, French Dispatch and Jackass4. But now, Cry Macho can claim first spot of box office for at least one week. at other hand, September release I think lowers movie's award chances. I hope I am wrong. As deadline reported, Cry Macho could land in either TIFF, Venice Film Festival, or Telluride.

First of all, Warners wanted to make the box office competition easier for Dune, which is a big budget film.
Then, that decision does not seem to have something to do with the qualities of Cry Macho.
Moreover, the month of September still makes part of the awards season.
If Cry Macho gets some great reviews, it will be noticed by Oscars voters for sure.
Now, we can expect a trailer sooner, probably when Space Jam will be released.
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Post by: SamanMoradkhani on June 26, 2021, 10:19:07 PM
First of all, Warners wanted to make the box office competition easier for Dune, which is a big budget film.
Then, that decision does not seem to have something to do with the qualities of Cry Macho.
Moreover, the month of September still makes part of the awards season.
If Cry Macho gets some great reviews, it will be noticed by Oscars voters for sure.
Now, we can expect a trailer sooner, probably when Space Jam will be released.

As Walter White said once, "You are damn right."
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Post by: Hocine on June 29, 2021, 07:26:31 AM
https://amp.cinemablend.com/news/2569667/whats-bad-news-dune-actually-great-news-clint-eastwoods-movie-release-date-cry-macho
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Post by: antonis on July 21, 2021, 08:09:01 AM
Still no trailer...
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Post by: SamanMoradkhani on July 21, 2021, 10:19:10 PM
Still no trailer...
yeah. it worries me. no promoting from WB. I wonder why
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Post by: antonis on July 22, 2021, 01:03:59 AM
I expect another change of schedule
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Post by: SamanMoradkhani on July 22, 2021, 06:28:50 AM
I expect another change of schedule

obviously WB are gonna go all DUNE this year and Cry Macho will likely experience the same destiny of The Mule.
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Post by: AKA23 on July 22, 2021, 08:07:32 AM
WB is a little behind schedule for releasing this based on when trailers for Eastwood's  most recent films have been released, but not overly so. I never thought it would be released with "Space Jam," since that doesn't have an overlapping audience with "Cry Macho." Clint has rarely released trailers 3-4 months early like many other films do. I think this is likely an indication that "Cry Macho" probably isn't an Oscar film, since if it were, I think they'd want to publicize it earlier, and have it play at one of the festivals, and it doesn't appear that will be happening. But, I never thought it would be, so that doesn't really bother much.
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Post by: Perry on July 24, 2021, 10:37:26 AM

 I expect Cry Macho to be one of Eastwood's small personal films. I'm not expecting a 100 mill performance. If the movie gets a reaction like Gran Torino that would be tremendous, but this movie is based on a very obscure book which actually is being re-released on September 14 in paperback. I'm hoping its a movie worth seeing.
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Post by: exit00 on July 27, 2021, 04:48:43 PM
I expect Cry Macho to be one of Eastwood's small personal films

Yeah, I think so too.  Maybe it will be another older/younger relationship picture like A Perfect World, Million Dollar Baby, or Honkytonk Man.  One thing we can be sure of, Clint will have a lot of his usual great one-liners.  I also love the Dwight Yoakam casting.
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Post by: Perry on July 27, 2021, 05:08:19 PM


Yeah I like the Yoakam casting too, but I'm in the complete minority on this but I'm hoping it's not another Perfect World which I found to be a overrated bore....
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Post by: exit00 on July 28, 2021, 07:07:36 AM

Yeah I like the Yoakam casting too, but I'm in the complete minority on this but I'm hoping it's not another Perfect World which I found to be a overrated bore....

And I've always thought that A Perfect World was a highly underrated movie with Costner (as well as the kid) so good in that role.  I will say that I almost wish Clint had not been in that movie, just directed it.  I don't know much about the book Cry Macho but from what I read, the main character in the book is 35 years old...
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Post by: AKA23 on July 28, 2021, 05:36:36 PM
I think "A Perfect World" is one of his best movies, and am also happy he acted in it. But it is a much slower paced film, and more of a Costner starring vehicle than an Eastwood one, so I understand why its not a favorite for some Eastwood fans.
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Post by: AKA23 on July 30, 2021, 08:53:25 AM
If we don't get this today, I don't think this is coming out Sep. 17th. I think the release date will be pushed back. Even for Eastwood, I don't recall any recent films where the trailer was released as few as 6 weeks in advance. A delay will be sad since I've really been looking forward to seeing this on the 17th.
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Post by: SamanMoradkhani on July 30, 2021, 09:16:09 PM
If we don't get this today, I don't think this is coming out Sep. 17th. I think the release date will be pushed back. Even for Eastwood, I don't recall any recent films where the trailer was released as few as 6 weeks in advance. A delay will be sad since I've really been looking forward to seeing this on the 17th.

Yeah. I got that feeling too. this might be the only reasonable explanation.
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Post by: Christopher on July 31, 2021, 03:46:09 PM
HBO Max has a list of some upcoming theatrical/HBO Max releases, and Cry Macho isn't currently listed in that. They do list a movie coming out September 10 and another October 1. I don't think that's an official thing, of course, but I do wonder if the date could be changed since it's not listed there.
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Post by: Klas on August 01, 2021, 07:37:19 AM
HBO Max has a list of some upcoming theatrical/HBO Max releases, and Cry Macho isn't currently listed in that. They do list a movie coming out September 10 and another October 1. I don't think that's an official thing, of course, but I do wonder if the date could be changed since it's not listed there.

This link from HBO max has it listed on Sept 17:
https://www.hbomax.com/same-day-premieres

Clink on the link and then scroll down to Sept 17.
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Post by: Christopher on August 01, 2021, 11:39:19 AM
Okay, there it is. O0 I was going to a page within my currently inactive account where it doesn't list it yet. Maybe because there's no trailer yet.
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Post by: Hocine on August 02, 2021, 10:26:03 AM
Cry Macho and Matrix 4 are the two Warner Bros. films of 2021 whose trailers are still waited.

Maybe I repeat myself but generally, the trailers for the last Clint films are released about two months before the US release of the films.
So, yes, Cry Macho trailer seems to be late. On the other hand, I have the feeling that since that HBO Max formula, the rules have changed about the trailers.
At this point, nothing says that Cry Macho will not be released on September 17 in the USA. So, I am still optimistic.
The fact that the book is re-released on September 14 in paperback seems to be a good indicator.
Who knows ? Maybe we will see the trailer within four days, when The Suicide Squad will be released or within two weeks, when Reminiscence will be released.
We have to be patient. Cry Macho seems to be a small picture on the paper for sure. I just want to see a good film and a good acting performance by Clint.
If it had the same qualities of Honkytonk Man, A Perfect World or Gran Torino, it would be great.
I think that Clint is at his best when he deals with small pictures, simple stories but strong characters.
To me, the Oscars are secondary. Of course, if Cry Macho got some nominations, I would be so happy for Clint.
As I said, I am optimistic about that film.
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Post by: AKA23 on August 05, 2021, 01:13:09 PM
EW has a feature on this, which includes a couple production photos, which confirms the Sep 17 release date. With this publicity starting for the film, we should see the trailer soon, perhaps tomorrow, or next week.

(https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/ucWUdW_ZHOhLUXHoF40JbA--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTk2MDtoPTYzOS44NA--/https://s.yimg.com/uu/api/res/1.2/hjvP1wGK2SBK5xu7EK05jQ--~B/aD0xMzMzO3c9MjAwMDthcHBpZD15dGFjaHlvbg--/https://media.zenfs.com/en/entertainment_weekly_785/201dcf03d58f05b454823f2f0948efaa)

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No matter what age he is, Clint Eastwood will always be a cowboy at heart.

The 91-year-old actor is back in the saddle for his upcoming movie Cry Macho, a Western drama set in 1979. Along with producing and directing the film, Eastwood stars as Mike Milo, a one-time rodeo star and washed-up horse breeder who takes a job from an ex-boss to bring the man's young son home from Mexico. Forced to take the backroads on their way to Texas, the unlikely pair face an unexpectedly challenging journey, during which the world-weary horseman finds unexpected connections and his own sense of redemption.

"It's about a man who has been through some hard times in his life and then unexpectedly another challenge is brought to the foreground," Eastwood tells EW. "He would normally never do it but he is a man of his word. He follows through. And it starts his life over again."

EW has your first look at the "uplifting and poignant drama" that finds Eastwood back in front of the camera only three years after starring in The Mule. But what's more surprising is how it looks like his character is going to make friends with a pet rooster along his journey...

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/clint-eastwood-back-saddle-pet-160000358.html
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Post by: AKA23 on August 05, 2021, 01:45:30 PM
People magazine also has a feature, with some different production photos.

(https://imagesvc.meredithcorp.io/v3/mm/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.onecms.io%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2Fsites%2F20%2F2021%2F08%2F04%2Fclint-eastwood-cry-macho59.jpg)

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Clint Eastwood is getting back on the horse.

In a PEOPLE exclusive first look at Cry Macho, directed and produced by the Oscar-winner, the multi-hyphenate Hollywood icon returns to his Western movie roots in a touching new drama.

The 91-year-old star appears at ease in boots, a cowboy hat, a coat and jeans as he plays Mike Milo, a one-time rodeo star who takes a job from an ex-boss to bring the man's young son, Rafo (Eduardo Minett), home from Mexico.

Forced to take the backroads on their way to Texas, the older man and young boy find unexpected bonds between them.

The movie, as Eastwood tells PEOPLE, has been 40 years in the making.

"[Producer] Al Ruddy asked me if I would do it and I felt I was too young for the part," says Eastwood. "I thought I might direct it then but it went by the wayside. Then, about a year ago, we brought it back out and feels like I'm just at the right age now and I thought it'd be fun to do..."


https://people.com/movies/see-clint-eastwood-return-to-his-cowboy-ways-in-first-look-at-his-new-film-cry-macho/
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Post by: Macpherson on August 05, 2021, 03:28:37 PM
https://youtu.be/JVc8SI5CAKw

Cry Macho trailer is here.....  :) :)
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Post by: The Schofield Kid on August 05, 2021, 03:42:42 PM
https://youtu.be/JVc8SI5CAKw

Cry Macho trailer is here.....  :) :)

A 91 year old throwing punches 😎😎😎
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Post by: AKA23 on August 05, 2021, 04:07:03 PM
The official poster

(https://scontent-iad3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/p526x296/234144169_124625159880187_9198855984805949714_n.jpg?_nc_cat=108&ccb=1-4&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=dJu0MSoyzQIAX8flNaX&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-2.xx&oh=3026a9a5c74c91e7199ef7c6383aa6e5&oe=61125325)
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Post by: Macpherson on August 05, 2021, 04:18:10 PM
https://www.crymachofilm.net/

Official website up and running....
Nice to note in the credits that long time collaborators Joel Cox (editor) and Deborah Hopper (Costume design) are there....
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Post by: exit00 on August 05, 2021, 04:43:24 PM
Just love that poster!  Clint is the only actor I can think of that I always look forward to the movie poster.... every film seems to have such a great poster to go along with it.
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Post by: exit00 on August 05, 2021, 04:53:01 PM
https://youtu.be/JVc8SI5CAKw

Cry Macho trailer is here.....  :) :)

Ok, now I CAN"T wait until Sept 17!
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Post by: AKA23 on August 05, 2021, 05:01:32 PM
Happy Joel Cox is returning as editor. I was getting worried that he wouldn't be doing this one.
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Post by: Gant on August 05, 2021, 05:07:04 PM
This looks great..
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Post by: Christopher on August 05, 2021, 07:57:13 PM
I don't remember if it'd been mentioned that it has a PG-13 rating, but I see that on the poster.
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: The Schofield Kid on August 05, 2021, 11:36:56 PM
Australia has to wait until November 4, 2021 for this to be released. We might be out of lockdown by then. ???
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: SamanMoradkhani on August 06, 2021, 12:10:38 AM
OMG... I can't wait. this looks awesome. Clint is the coolest.
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: Perry on August 06, 2021, 11:50:55 AM


           I don't know man....... :(
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: Steven on August 07, 2021, 01:04:34 AM
Trailer looks excellent. Most excited for an Eastwood movie since Gran Torino :-D
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: Christopher on August 07, 2021, 11:42:13 AM
I said a few months back that it would be tempting to watch on HBO Max. I'll probably try to see it in a theater since it's Eastwood but if it wasn't for that, I think it'd be the perfect movie to just watch as part of your subscription. Based on the trailer I'm not expecting an excellent movie, but I hope for an enjoyable one.
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: john snow/targaryan on August 07, 2021, 03:21:17 PM
Ok, now I CAN"T wait until Sept 17!
After watching the trailer, I see two previous Eastwood movies. Gran Torino and The Mule. The kid who plays Rafo reminded me of Thao in Gran Torino. Maybe unfair until I view the whole movie but that was the first impression I had. And the typical redemption/road trip story reminded me of The Mule. Happy to see Clint acting again but anyone expecting an Oscar nominated film will most likely be disappointed. I'm just hoping Cry Macho is different enough from those two movies to give us something new and unique. The Trailer did have the line of the movie. "if a guy wants to name his cock Macho, that's OK by me."  :2funny:
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Post by: honkytonkman on August 08, 2021, 03:36:55 PM
That's maybe the 17529th trailer in which you hear Morricone's music for "The Mission" . I really desagree with the concept of putting music from other films in movie trailers.
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: Christopher on August 08, 2021, 03:46:52 PM
I just saw a TV spot for the first time during a golf broadcast.
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: The Schofield Kid on August 08, 2021, 06:55:51 PM
I just saw a TV spot for the first time during a golf broadcast.

Wait, What? Christopher watching golf? :o
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: exit00 on August 09, 2021, 04:02:52 PM
I just saw a TV spot for the first time during a golf broadcast.

I saw the same on Sunday's telecast of the final round....
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: AKA23 on August 09, 2021, 04:49:12 PM
As an Eastwood fan, I almost always enjoy films he acts in more than films which he only directs, so on that level, I'm definitely looking forward to this. His performance will be a gift when viewed from that perspective. At the same time, he chose a cast of mostly unknown actors for this film, and he's had mixed success with that in the past. It worked well in "A Perfect World" and "Letters from Iwo Jima," but the boy in particular looks to me to be a pretty bad actor, reminding me of the mostly unknown Hmong cast he used in "Gran Torino," the use of which I would argue did not work to the benefit of the film.

On a deeper level, this definitely seems to be a film that thematically he's done many other times before. At its heart, this feels to me like a road trip movie that involves an older man mentoring a younger person and using his life to teach and better the life of his mentee through imparting wisdom forged by a lifetime of experience. He's already done that quite recently as both an actor and as a director (Million Dollar Baby, Gran Torino, The Mule). This theme was also explored earlier in his career as well ("Honkytonk Man", "A Perfect World"). I'd love to hear why you all think Eastwood appears to be driven to make the same film over and over again recently, at least thematically?
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: Christopher on August 10, 2021, 07:20:06 PM
Wait, What? Christopher watching golf? :o
;D I've watched a little golf before, but on Sunday it was just on when I was around.
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: Perry on August 13, 2021, 04:58:34 PM


         AKA23 as you can see from my initial response after seeing the trailer I was kind of lukewarm.. My first thought was it looked like another type of Mule episodic themed movie. Though I liked The Mule somewhat I thought it dragged and was a bit too long. On the other hand It's nice to see Eastwood in a new movie and I don't expect a great deal. I guess it's not much of an answer to your question.
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: Hocine on August 15, 2021, 06:42:07 AM
As an Eastwood fan, I almost always enjoy films he acts in more than films which he only directs, so on that level, I'm definitely looking forward to this. His performance will be a gift when viewed from that perspective. At the same time, he chose a cast of mostly unknown actors for this film, and he's had mixed success with that in the past. It worked well in "A Perfect World" and "Letters from Iwo Jima," but the boy in particular looks to me to be a pretty bad actor, reminding me of the mostly unknown Hmong cast he used in "Gran Torino," the use of which I would argue did not work to the benefit of the film.

On a deeper level, this definitely seems to be a film that thematically he's done many other times before. At its heart, this feels to me like a road trip movie that involves an older man mentoring a younger person and using his life to teach and better the life of his mentee through imparting wisdom forged by a lifetime of experience. He's already done that quite recently as both an actor and as a director (Million Dollar Baby, Gran Torino, The Mule). This theme was also explored earlier in his career as well ("Honkytonk Man", "A Perfect World"). I'd love to hear why you all think Eastwood appears to be driven to make the same film over and over again recently, at least thematically?

Thank you for asking, AKA23

When some reporters or film critics ask Clint why he did a particular film and why he portrayed a particular character, Clint often answers because he liked the script or the story and because he likes portraying characters who are challenged by some conflicts or some obstacles. Clint thinks that there is no drama without conflicts. Moreover, Clint seems to like portraying men who still have something to learn, which will influence or change the rest of their lives.
Even if those men are experienced men. Perhaps especially if those men are experienced men. My feeling is that Clint is a man who knows his limitations as an actor. He knows which roles can fit him and which roles cannot. He is also aware of his screen persona, his trademarks and what he represents for the audience. So, he kind of play with that like a jazz musician. At least, since Heartbreak Ridge, he portrayed men who are getting older and have to find their places in America today. Most of the characters that Clint played, during the last thirty years, are more or less some variations of the character that he played in Heartbreak Ridge. In many ways, those characters are like mirrors for his own career and his own life. Clint is still making films because he believes that he still has something to learn in filmmaking. Even if Heartbreak Ridge is not a perfect film nor considered as one of the best Clint films, I still believe that it is one of his best role: something like a mix of Dirty Harry, Bronco Billy or Honkytonk Man.
In many ways, Clint portrayed some variations of the same character for many years, like Charlie Chaplin did with his famous character, the tramp.
When I saw the Cry Macho trailer, it reminds me of The Mule, Trouble with the Curve, Gran Torino and many other Clint films. I am still excited to see Cry Macho. I am fond of Clint films since 31 years now. Then, when I see a new film of Clint, it is like seeing an old friend again. I am pretty sure that I will enjoy Cry Macho and its Western ambiance. Yes, the supporting roles are playing by unknown actors, with the exception of Dwight Yoakam, who is still not a famous actor. But it would bring some authenticity to the story. I am expecting a pretty good film with a great acting performance by Clint. I am not particularly expecting Oscar nominations but if I was wrong, I would be happy.
I just wonder if Cry Macho will be a feel good movie, a tearjerker movie or both. I remember that the trailer for The Mule announced a more dramatic film than what the film is actually.

In France, Cry Macho will be released on November 10th.
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: john snow/targaryan on August 15, 2021, 01:50:15 PM
Thank you for asking, AKA23

When some reporters or film critics ask Clint why he did a particular film and why he portrayed a particular character, Clint often answers because he liked the script or the story and because he likes portraying characters who are challenged by some conflicts or some obstacles. Clint thinks that there is no drama without conflicts. Moreover, Clint seems to like portraying men who still have something to learn, which will influence or change the rest of their lives.
Even if those men are experienced men. Perhaps especially if those men are experienced men. My feeling is that Clint is a man who knows his limitations as an actor. He knows which roles can fit him and which roles cannot. He is also aware of his screen persona, his trademarks and what he represents for the audience. So, he kind of play with that like a jazz musician. At least, since Heartbreak Ridge, he portrayed men who are getting older and have to find their places in America today. Most of the characters that Clint played, during the last thirty years, are more or less some variations of the character that he played in Heartbreak Ridge. In many ways, those characters are like mirrors for his own career and his own life. Clint is still making films because he believes that he still has something to learn in filmmaking. Even if Heartbreak Ridge is not a perfect film nor considered as one of the best Clint films, I still believe that it is one of his best role: something like a mix of Dirty Harry, Bronco Billy or Honkytonk Man.
In many ways, Clint portrayed some variations of the same character for many years, like Charlie Chaplin did with his famous character, the tramp.
When I saw the Cry Macho trailer, it reminds me of The Mule, Trouble with the Curve, Gran Torino and many other Clint films. I am still excited to see Cry Macho. I am fond of Clint films since 31 years now. Then, when I see a new film of Clint, it is like seeing an old friend again. I am pretty sure that I will enjoy Cry Macho and its Western ambiance. Yes, the supporting roles are playing by unknown actors, with the exception of Dwight Yoakam, who is still not a famous actor. But it would bring some authenticity to the story. I am expecting a pretty good film with a great acting performance by Clint. I am not particularly expecting Oscar nominations but if I was wrong, I would be happy.
I just wonder if Cry Macho will be a feel good movie, a tearjerker movie or both. I remember that the trailer for The Mule announced a more dramatic film than what the film is actually.

In France, Cry Macho will be released on November 10th.

Well said.
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: batfunk2 on August 15, 2021, 03:27:24 PM
I agree with  Hocine. Eastwood is   a good actor but not a top-class one like James Stewart, De Niro(pick your favorite ones)..His main asset as an actor is his charisma,he  learned to know his limitations very early, that's one of the reasons He turned director quickly.
In addition, he's a very old man now, so possibility of fitting roles become exceptional. When the script  is good and the role adequate, he automatically books it. I think he seizes the moment and, as the rational director he always has been, he makes savings on the budget lol
No trailer for me, most of them are badly cut  and spoil key moments.
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: Perry on August 15, 2021, 03:54:57 PM


           James Stewart?....I wouldn't even put James Stewart in Audie Murphy's class....
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: batfunk2 on August 16, 2021, 03:59:16 AM
Taste and colours...   ;D
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: Hocine on August 18, 2021, 05:59:22 PM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/screenrant.com/cry-macho-clint-eastwood-best-movie-since-gran-torino/amp/
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: batfunk2 on August 20, 2021, 05:28:49 AM
Pure speculation from the writer, and Screenrant is an infotainment site, so wait and see... For me, Eastwood 's last perfect movie was Letters from Iwo Jima in 2007.Can he add a new milestone in his filmography ? Yes, he can !
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Post by: SamanMoradkhani on August 20, 2021, 09:47:42 PM
Pure speculation from the writer, and Screenrant is an infotainment site, so wait and see... For me, Eastwood 's last perfect movie was Letters from Iwo Jima in 2007.Can he add a new milestone in his filmography ? Yes, he can !

He is Eastwood, still alive, still acting. nothing else matters.
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: Perry on August 25, 2021, 01:39:07 PM


 Maybe the best reply I've heard in years outside of "I'm the best looking person in this website..."
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: Gant on August 25, 2021, 02:48:01 PM
I just re watched the trailer for Cry Macho.. I think the film looks great. I reckon we?ve got another classic Eastwood performance on its way..
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: SamanMoradkhani on August 26, 2021, 12:28:14 AM
Cry Macho is expected to be 125 minutes long. 2hrs, and 5 mins. solid.
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: AKA23 on August 26, 2021, 07:06:04 AM
Any run times this far in advance are likely to be inaccurate. I don't think anyone outside of the studio, or studio friends, has seen this yet, and they wouldn't send the film this far in advance to theaters. I don't know where these runtimes that are reported well in advance actually come from!
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: SamanMoradkhani on August 26, 2021, 12:12:41 PM
Any run times this far in advance are likely to be inaccurate. I don't think anyone outside of the studio, or studio friends, has seen this yet, and they wouldn't send the film this far in advance to theaters. I don't know where these runtimes that are reported well in advance actually come from!
it is reported by CinemaBlend:
https://www.cinemablend.com/title/2565311/cry-macho#:~:text=Distributor%3A%20Warner%20Bros.&text=Running%20Time%3A%20125%20min.
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: Hocine on September 03, 2021, 12:33:16 AM
Here is an article from Deadline about producer Al Ruddy and his determination to make Cry Macho:

https://deadline.com/2021/09/truly-amazing-al-ruddy-delivers-cry-macho-after-years-1234824502/
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Post by: batfunk2 on September 03, 2021, 05:57:43 AM
Great story Hocine ! The man produced  The Godfather and Million Dollar Baby,give him a star on Hollywood walk of fame ! Gentlemen, another oscar on the way  :D
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Post by: Macpherson on September 07, 2021, 10:45:38 AM
The official running time of Cry Macho is 104 min... 1h 44min.
https://www.alberta.ca/recently-rated-movies.aspx
 :)

2 minutes longer than "Play Misty for Me" and "Dirty Harry."  102min
1 minute shorter than "High  Plains Drifter" and "The  Beguiled."  105min
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: Perry on September 07, 2021, 11:57:51 AM


That's a relief. The paperback comes out on September 14 on Amazon.......
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: batfunk2 on September 07, 2021, 04:46:47 PM
The official running time of Cry Macho is 104 min... 1h 44min.
https://www.alberta.ca/recently-rated-movies.aspx
 :)

2 minutes longer than "Play Misty for Me" and "Dirty Harry."  102min
1 minute shorter than "High  Plains Drifter" and "The  Beguiled."  105min

Yep, that's my boy. Accurate, concise, old school formed O0 Jizzzzz, many actual Hollywood Directors need  at least 2 hours to make an.. Action movie !!!

Enjoy his movies, friends, it won't Last forever :'(
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: Hocine on September 09, 2021, 03:36:13 AM
https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/clint-eastwood-celebrity-tribute-cry-macho-featurette.amp

https://www.google.com/amp/s/screenrant.com/cry-macho-movie-image-clint-eastwood-western/amp/

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Post by: Macpherson on September 10, 2021, 01:06:09 AM

Cry Macho Soundtrack details....

https://filmmusicreporter.com/2021/09/09/cry-macho-soundtrack-album-details/

 :)
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Post by: Hocine on September 10, 2021, 05:02:53 AM
Cry Macho Soundtrack details....

https://filmmusicreporter.com/2021/09/09/cry-macho-soundtrack-album-details/

 :)

Thank you, Macpherson

I did not read all the list of the tracks, in order to avoid some possible spoilers

Cry Macho soundtrack seems to be available on YouTube now
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Post by: Hocine on September 10, 2021, 05:05:01 AM
Clint did an interview with Parade:

https://parade.com/1259470/maramovies/clint-eastwood-cry-macho/
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Post by: Klas on September 10, 2021, 10:10:23 AM
Clint did an interview with Parade:

https://parade.com/1259470/maramovies/clint-eastwood-cry-macho/

In that interview, he doesn?t seem to deny he was in Alfred Hitchcock Presents Tv series?. That was a question in another thread.
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Post by: SamanMoradkhani on September 10, 2021, 10:39:04 AM
amazing stuff here. the interview was just amazing, soundtracks are great, Mark Mancina has produced the most-Eastwoodian music by a non-eastwood musician. the star-studded tribute was moving and I'm exploding right now. this is gonna be epic.
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: AKA23 on September 10, 2021, 10:42:28 AM
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/clint-eastwood-cry-macho-cowboy-170031375.html

Yahoo has an exclusive look at a featurette on "Cry Macho," which includes some commentary from Eastwood, and seems to preview the score, since it sounds like music for an Eastwood movie to me!
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Post by: AKA23 on September 10, 2021, 10:48:08 AM
amazing stuff here. the interview was just amazing, soundtracks are great, Mark Mancina has produced the most-Eastwoodian music by a non-eastwood musician. the star-studded tribute was moving and I'm exploding right now. this is gonna be epic.

Calm down, sonny. If you go in with sky high expectations, you might end up being disappointed! :)

This is something I struggle with. I often find this is a problem for me with Eastwood's new films, which is why I tend to like them better on a second viewing.
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: SamanMoradkhani on September 10, 2021, 11:54:00 AM
Calm down, sonny. If you go in with sky high expectations, you might end up being disappointed! :)

This is something I struggle with. I often find this is a problem for me with Eastwood's new films, which is why I tend to like them better on a second viewing.

I get what you are saying AKA23. But Hearing the soundtracks I couldn't help myself not remembering some of Eastwood's best works like Million Dollar Baby and Gran Torino. this one sounds like them, more art side of the industry than the business side of it. 
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Post by: SamanMoradkhani on September 10, 2021, 12:02:49 PM
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/clint-eastwood-cry-macho-cowboy-170031375.html

Yahoo has an exclusive look at a featurette on "Cry Macho," which includes some commentary from Eastwood, and seems to preview the score, since it sounds like music for an Eastwood movie to me!

I'm not ready for this one.
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: Hocine on September 11, 2021, 04:12:25 PM
In that interview, he doesn?t seem to deny he was in Alfred Hitchcock Presents Tv series?. That was a question in another thread.

Indeed, Clint does not seem to deny that he was in Alfred Hitchcock Presents TV series.
But he confirmed nothing. Then, we still have no certainty about his involvement in that TV series.
Clint was in many TV series such as Highway Patrol, Navy Log, West Point, Death Valley Days, Men of Annapolis, Maverick and Mr Ed. Of course, Clint was one of the leading actors of Rawhide.
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: exit00 on September 11, 2021, 07:38:43 PM
Indeed, Clint does not seem to deny that he was in Alfred Hitchcock Presents TV series.
But he confirmed nothing. Then, we still have no certainty about his involvement in that TV series.
Clint was in many TV series such as Highway Patrol, Navy Log, West Point, Death Valley Days, Men of Annapolis, Maverick and Mr Ed. Of course, Clint was one of the leading actors of Rawhide.

In the past year, I watched every episode of both Alfred Hitchcock Presents and the Alfred Hitchcock hour and I did not see Clint in any episode.
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Post by: exit00 on September 11, 2021, 07:44:06 PM
This is something I struggle with. I often find this is a problem for me with Eastwood's new films, which is why I tend to like them better on a second viewing.

I?m exactly the same way.... I find it impossible to go in without having super high expectations and then enjoying the movie better on 2nd viewing
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: SamanMoradkhani on September 12, 2021, 10:07:24 AM
https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/movies/story/2021-09-12/clint-eastwood-cry-macho-hbo-max

Oh yeah baby.
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: Gant on September 12, 2021, 02:02:46 PM
Great piece Thanks for posting
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: Christopher on September 12, 2021, 02:48:29 PM
In the past year, I watched every episode of both Alfred Hitchcock Presents and the Alfred Hitchcock hour and I did not see Clint in any episode.
exit00, did you see this thread where the question was asked? http://www.clinteastwood.org/forums/index.php?topic=11049.msg244503#new
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: exit00 on September 12, 2021, 03:28:08 PM
exit00, did you see this thread where the question was asked? http://www.clinteastwood.org/forums/index.php?topic=11049.msg244503#new

Christopher, darn if I missed that thread and just saw that posting in this thread!  That is an interesting photo.. I do remember that Steve McQueen episode but did not notice that scene.  This post and my previous post on this should be deleted as it doesn't really belong in this thread.
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: honkytonkman on September 14, 2021, 04:17:56 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSQSGwUXvac
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: SamanMoradkhani on September 14, 2021, 10:33:19 PM
"Clint Eastwood's Cry Macho takes a few mins to get going, and then it's lovely. He's made a movie a year since 2014, most of them excellent including American Sniper. Ben Davis cinematog is Oscar worthy."

 Roger Friedman
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: antonis on September 15, 2021, 08:52:02 AM
Still no reviews around despite the fact that the film opens tomorrow.
Only the occasional star track surfaced and looks appealing considering the evaluation ranges  between 3 &. 4 out of 5.
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: SamanMoradkhani on September 15, 2021, 10:38:17 AM
Still no reviews around despite the fact that the film opens tomorrow.
Only the occasional star track surfaced and looks appealing considering the evaluation ranges  between 3 &. 4 out of 5.

The reviews are in and they are not so kind I'm afraid.
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: antonis on September 15, 2021, 11:40:22 AM
At the bottom line who does really care ?
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: Perry on September 15, 2021, 11:58:55 AM

There was a review on PJ Media by Gwendolyn Sims who gave it a nice review, but to be perfectly honest here I've read about a dozen reviews and it's not good. Just about every review has used the words dull or meandering a great deal. It's almost like Cry Macho was more of a TV movie that should had been left on the shelf. Oh well......
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: Hammerhead on September 16, 2021, 01:27:29 AM
Seems to be a real mixed bag on Rotten Tomatoes.

Without getting into details I really feel that rightly or wrongly the perceived image of Clint's political views have made him an easy target for younger "woke" reviewers.
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: Perry on September 16, 2021, 07:56:19 AM


Hammerhead.....Absolutely......
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: SamanMoradkhani on September 17, 2021, 08:51:15 AM
Seems to be a real mixed bag on Rotten Tomatoes.

Without getting into details I really feel that rightly or wrongly the perceived image of Clint's political views have made him an easy target for younger "woke" reviewers.

you are Absolutely right.
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: Perry on September 17, 2021, 10:19:09 AM

From what I've read in many of the reviews or articles is that obviously this movie had the opportunity to be made over the past 40 years including by Eastwood himself. The story line is conducive to the late 70's and the character of Milo is at least 50 years younger. From from I've read also there are too many areas in the movie that weren't plausible. Regardless I guess everyone has to judge for themselves.
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: Perry on September 19, 2021, 02:45:56 PM
    4.5 million opening weekend Box Office which is dismal to say the least. A lot of that probably has to do with the older audiences not being in a rush to set foot in a movie theatre amid Covid and HBO Max is playing it plus another dopey Marvel movie to contend with. The mixed reviews certainly didn't help. If this movie makes eventually a profit it will be due to the overseas market when it's released......maybe...The movie just doesn't seem that interesting for a audience to go see...
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: Perry on September 28, 2021, 02:59:12 PM

  9.1 million Box Office since September 17 opening= box office bomb..I guess some of you will be crying for another Dirty Harry.....
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: Christopher on September 28, 2021, 04:51:54 PM
I wonder what the budget for the movie was. I don't recall if that information was ever given, but at least it's not a big budgeted movie. Obviously it won't make it back from the box office.
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: Hocine on September 28, 2021, 06:06:22 PM
I wonder what the budget for the movie was. I don't recall if that information was ever given, but at least it's not a big budgeted movie. Obviously it won't make it back from the box office.

The budget for Cry Macho was 33 M$.
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: AKA23 on September 28, 2021, 06:54:21 PM
This is definitely sad, but I'm not surprised. When I saw it in the evening on opening night, I was literally the only person in the theater. I've never seen a movie in a movie theater by myself before. It was a very strange experience.

I think it was a combination of COVID fears, given that Clint's audience is largely older and therefore vulnerable, and the poor reviews for the film.

Here's to hoping his next film is a hit!
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: AKA23 on September 28, 2021, 06:55:46 PM
This is definitely sad, but I'm not surprised. When I saw it in the evening on opening night, I was literally the only person in the theater. I've never seen a movie in a movie theater by myself before. It was a very strange experience.

I think it was a combination of COVID fears, given that Clint's audience is largely older and therefore vulnerable, being simultaneously available on HBO Max, and the poor reviews for the film.

Here's to hoping his next film is a hit!
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: Gant on September 28, 2021, 11:22:38 PM
I havent seen Cry Macho yet so have no opinion of the film although despite reviews and some opinions here
Im still very much looking forward to it..

I do remember watching Honkytonk Man virtually  alone in a cinema here in London after it received poor reviews and poor
box office and  to this day it remains one of my favourite Clint Eastwood films..
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: Perry on September 29, 2021, 12:24:55 PM


Last night I got a text from a friend while i was watching the pre-season NY Rangers game and out of nowhere my friend texted, " BTW, Have you seen Cry Macho yet"? I texted back 'No, I don't planned to.." And my friend texted back, " The movie was one of the worst movies I ever seen", and this is from a die hard Eastwood fan which really disillusioned made me quite sad..
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: Perry on September 30, 2021, 02:23:01 PM


Not that it really matters in many aspects, but the most vilified response to Eastwood's 'Cry Macho' has been from Director Paul Scharader who certainly has done his share of schlock in his filming past. I can't remember if I've ever read a scathing opinion about a movie from another director in all these years of going to the movies. Not sure this came out in this forum since my pc is acting up, but Schrader could use a valium cocktail.

https://search.aol.com/click/_ylt=Awr9Gi0PKVZhig4A_FdpCWVH;_ylu=Y29sbwNncTEEcG9zAzIEdnRpZAMEc2VjA3Nj/RV=2/RE=1633065359/RO=10/RU=https%3a%2f%2fnews.yahoo.com%2fpaul-schrader-hits-clint-eastwood-073551818.html%3ffr%3dsycsrp_catchall/RK=0/RS=4ZOxi1qGRca2kduFOffn7QuH3tw-
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: batfunk2 on October 01, 2021, 05:15:19 PM
Paul Schrader is a great director, who made a few bad movies too. I'm not offensed by his movie review. First, movie directors are often the weakest movie critics, with a lot of ego and personal conflits with others directors.
Second, all directors failed at least one time, Eastwood included. The 15:17 to Paris was  only three years ago and i really doubt Cry Macho could be worst.. I hope ;D
The chances that Eastwood bombs three-four times successively at box-office to jeopardize his career is nearly  inexistent. The man is a Survivor so Just relax, go watching the movie  and if you don't like it, move on.  ;)
Jeeezzz, still one month to wait in France...  :D
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: Perry on October 02, 2021, 10:34:37 AM


   Pauline Kael was Schrader's mentor= which explains a lot......
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: batfunk2 on October 03, 2021, 02:31:29 PM

   Pauline Kael was Schrader's mentor= which explains a lot......

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2019/jun/13/paul-schrader-remembers-pauline-kael-she-was-my-second-mother

An interesting article from an admirer of Eastwood And Kael ;D

https://cinephiliabeyond.org/kael-kael-bang-bang-the-pauline-kael-clint-eastwood-secret-wars/

Anyway, I'm french and  too "young" to have read Kael's articles(She retired in 1991).

Love/hate relationships  beetween artists and critics is old as prostitution, so... Who cares ?  ;)

Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: Perry on October 03, 2021, 03:28:03 PM


The difference between prostitution and Kael is I would had given Kael change back...
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: batfunk2 on October 04, 2021, 04:09:38 AM
Hahaha, whatever... ;-)
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: Macpherson on October 05, 2021, 04:28:52 PM
I haven't seen Cry Macho yet... it doesn't open in the UK until November.
As a fan there isn't a single Eastwood film that doesn't touch, move, excite, interest or entertain me (many, all at once).
Cry Macho, dismissed and slammed by many critics, will engage and thrill me like the others.
Because it's a Clint Eastwood film.
Because at 91 our man is alive, productive and energised.
Currently at 59% on Rotten Tomatoes, there are around 20 Eastwood films
that have fared worse. (Including Sudden Impact, Absolute Power and True Crime).
But I have also read many positive to glowing reviews highlighting the film's
ethical richness, its sweetness, its sense of peace,  contentment and serenity.
I would refer you to the following:
Glenn Heath, The Film Stage
Charles Bramesco, Little White Lies
Armond White, National Review
Brandon Streussnig, The Playlist
and most intriguingly Matt Goldberg at Collider (since
Invictus he has been extremely less than complimentary
about every Eastwood film.... he gave Cry Macho a B).
This alone is cause for anticipation.
These reviews, and many others, praise the valedictory nature
of the film.... they see the Eastwood themes it explores.... of community,
personal virtue and values, chivalry and trying to lead a good life well lived.
Many sense a time of closure may be looming and they talk
about Cry Macho in terms of farewell and adios.
They know we're nearer the end than the beginning.
This alone makes the anticipation fierce.
Clint may, and hopefully will, keep the old man at bay... he
may keep on producing films for years to come and defy us all.
In a months time I may return here to say that Cry Macho
was a big disappointment.... (I'm not blind to Clint's faults).....
but if so, it will be a first.
It's because I am a fan that I'll always cut him a little slack.
It's because I am a fan I know that if Clint was invested enough
to make the movie then I am invested enough to engage and
appreciate it.
Title: Re: CRY MACHO: Production Information and News
Post by: Gant on October 06, 2021, 01:30:45 AM
Very well put?. Im looking forward to it also for all the same reasons 👍