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General Information => Eastwood News => Topic started by: Clintus on June 02, 2004, 09:44:11 AM
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Does anyone have an adequate reason why the above movies have never been released on DVD? I find it very frustrating as these movies were really good, light-hearted entertainment.
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Huh?
Every Which Way But Loose (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000060MWP/qid=1086199582/sr=1-12/ref=sr_1_12/102-8806876-6236154?v=glance&s=dvd)
Any Which Way You Can (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000060MWO/qid=1086199582/sr=1-17/ref=sr_1_17/102-8806876-6236154?v=glance&s=dvd)
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I guess it depends on where you live, 'cause "Every Which Way But Loose" and "Any Which Way You Can" are available in the U.S. As of next Tuesday, every single major Clint Eastwood movie will be available on dvd with the release of "Mystic River". Yes! If you don't have it, hopefully it will be available soon.
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If you see where Clintus lives you will see that he is in reg 2 country.
One of the reasons they have not been released is that the 2nd film will require cuts and that will mean a re- submission to the BBFC and therefore a further payment for Warner.
They won't release one without the other ..... so no release for either.
Philo .
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Philo... why does the second movie require cuts.... ???
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Hi Gant ,
Apart from the first Warner "rental" VHS/Beta release in late 1982 the scene with the raccoon and the rattlesnake has been heavily cut. I have alway felt it a scene that did not need to be so graphic and the RSPCA here in the UK will not stand for it. They even forced James Cameron and Fox to cut the rat in liquid sequence from The Abyss.
There is no getting around this, as a widescreen certificate for Any which way has never been asked for , until it is (and paid for) we will not see a release and never one uncut.
Philo .
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If you see where Clintus lives you will see that he is in reg 2 country.
One of the reasons they have not been released is that the 2nd film will require cuts and that will mean a re- submission to the BBFC and therefore a further payment for Warner.
They won't release one without the other ..... so no release for either.
Philo .
Philo, Thanks for explaining that. Whilst it still annoys me a little as least I can rationalise it with the reasons why. Appreciate it. Been that long since I saw the movie, I can't remember the racoon scene.
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To be honest I'm only really interested in the first movie, tho' I can appreciate that they won't release one without the other...
Thanks for the info Philo...... are they out on region 4 ?
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Yes but only in NTSC, it seems that no pal masters have been made.
even though region 4 is pal Oz have converted ntsc to put up with .... Ugghhh :P
This is why I was keen to see if they were released with the magazine. They were featured on the ad, but I can't see how they will be released.
Philo .
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It's shocking the amount of Clint films which are still yet to be released for Region 2...Honkytonk Man, Tightrope, Bird, to name but a few in addition to the Every Which Way/Any Which Way films... ??? >:( :'( And when we do get the DVD, sometimes it's not half as good as the Region 1 version, as evidenced recently by the pathetic version of Mystic River that is coming out for Region 2.
I don't understand why when you consider that Clint is one of the most well-known and respected actors and directors in the business. It's a problem because I've got some Clint films on video that I can't replace with the DVD versions, and there's a few I don't own that I can't buy at all because you can only get them on video and I don't want to buy videos because they're becoming more and more obsolete...this sucks!
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Well from what I have just heard the single disc Mystic river sucks even in the USA.
It seems that you have to now shell out for the 3 disc version to get anything extra.
Shame on you Warner.
Ally, The releases featuring Honkytonk man, etc are now out in reg 4 from Australia. They are also out here but only in not very nice box sets. If you buy theses box sets then you have to buy a "cut" firefox and buy again perfect world and heartbreak ridge.... so yet again another Warner rip off.
I have to rely on passed on info because unlike most of you I will not give them my money on day one of these rather poor releases .... and yes I mean every damn one of them >:
( >:( >:( >:(
Philo .
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Well, at least the US gets the 3-disc version! We don't even get a choice ???
Thanks for the info Philo, I did know about the crappy box sets as I've seen them on Play.com but I'm not prepared to spend that much money even though I don't have A Perfect World or Heartbreak Ridge on DVD, only on video. I've got the cut version of Firefox on DVD only I didn't know it was cut when I bought it :(
So we can play Region 4 on our Region 2 DVD players? So maybe I could order Honkytonk Man from Oz...but it'll probably cost a fortune! I do have a couple of Hitchcock DVDs which are both Region 2 and 4 so I guess that would make sense.
If once Mystic River comes out, every single major Clint Eastwood movie will be available on DVD in America as Jed has stated, then maybe after that they'll get around to us poor relations, eh?! ;) Maybe I should start a petition or something...
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Guys, go to http://www.avforums.com
Scroll down the page to the heading "DVD Hacks". You will find the hacks for most DVD players. It usually involves keying in numbers from the DVD's remote control. If you don't see your player post a Q on the forum. We can usually answer most queries.
You will then be able to watch DVD's from ANY region.
I've had EWWBL & AWWYC since they came out and I've got the Mystic River 3 disc set on it's way. Technically I should not be able to see them as I live in the UK and they would like to restrict us to Region 2.
If you are in the UK then www.dvdsoon.com based in Canada sell Clints DVD's usually around the £8 mark inc shipping.
It really is that easy.
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Ally , unless your player is multi region or hacked, a region 2 player will not play reg 4 discs.
Your Hitchcock titles only play because they are reg 2&4, your player will be playing them as 2 .
If you can hack your machine as "right turn" suggests then you will be fine.
I have one of the first multi region players that came out in the late 90's. It is great when you don't have to think if you can play a disc.
Great to see Warner releases here and in Australia not in snapper cases.
Philo .
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So maybe I could order Honkytonk Man from Oz...but it'll probably cost a fortune!
If your player can play multiregion you should be able to pick up the r4 Honkeytonk Man for approx AUS $16-17 (not including postage).
WKC.
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Yes and that is a good price. If they were out here they would be £15-20.
Philo .
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Clintus.U can buy mutiregion dvd players in the uk now for 30 quid. I have a pioneer multi region i bought quite a while ago and have every which way and any which way on R.1 dvd .In fact watched them the other day for the first time in ages.Also bought the R.1 of good bad and ugly collectors edition as its nicer than the R.2 version.
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Thank you right turn clyde for the info. I believe similar info was posted in the off-topic section of the board relatively recently. I can have a go but it's not my DVD player (I don't have my own personal one) so I hope fiddling with it won't break it ;) I often play DVDs on my laptop but you can't really get around the region thing on computers, can you?
This is so frustrating as I really want to get the Every Which Way/Any Which Way films and all the others I don't have on DVD...initially I was merely annoyed about the fact that most of Clint's DVDs don't have decent extras, but I'd settle for vanilla DVDs if I could just have versions I could actually watch...
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Clintus.U can buy mutiregion dvd players in the uk now for 30 quid. I have a pioneer multi region i bought quite a while ago and have every which way and any which way on R.1 dvd .In fact watched them the other day for the first time in ages.Also bought the R.1 of good bad and ugly collectors edition as its nicer than the R.2 version.
Simmo, where can you buy these multi-region players from? And I thought the Reg 2 version of GBU was the same as the Reg 1. Not yet another DVD we've been short-changed on?! ???
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The region 1 disc of good bad ugly has the original italian soundtrack plus some cool movie poster postcards in the box which u dont get in the R.2 set.And it was just over a tenner from dvdsoon.Will get back to u on the dvd players
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Alleycat.Go to amazon.co.uk and look under the dvd section.theres quite a few there that are multi region and also have mp3 playback for 30 quid.Read some of the reader reviews to see how good they are.U cant go wrong for the price plus u get free delivery over 25 quid. ;)
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Alleycat, what is the make & model of the DVD player you are using? I'll check for a hack. You won't break it by hacking it ! :-)
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Dudes, it's allycat! >:( But if you're nice you can call me ally...
The DVD player is a JVC make. Thanks for the info - I'll check out Amazon (when I have some money - spent it all on cds and Clint DVDs the other day!)
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I took the liberty of calling you Ally, hope that was ok. :-X
Philo .
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But of course...it is my name, after all ;)
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Hey guys, so the only cut in both US DVD's is the rattlesnake scene... is that right.
I love these two movies but have only got them on video, I think I am gonna invest in them both on DVD from the states. ;)
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Hi Coogan,
It is only Any which way you can that is cut and only cut in the UK (That is why no DVD release)
It is uncut in reg 1 NTSC.
Philo .
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Cheers Philo,
I will have to get these two DVDs now from the US, I like it when they are uncut
EXCELLENT :)
P.S. What about the US version of FIREFOX is that cut do you know
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Again UK version is around the 120 min mark
US is the full 137 min version.
Philo .
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Cheers Philo,
It's good to know you.... ;)
Do you know anymore of Clint's movies that are cut in the UK, but are full in the USA.
CHEERS
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I may be wrong but I think the UK dvd of Coogans Bluff is cut..at least one scene... :(
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Grant,
Which bit was cut.... can you remember or not. I have that on region 2, but if it is cut I will get hold of the region 1 copy.
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Hiya Tex.... ;)
When I picked up the region 2 dvd a year or so ago.. I think it was KC who pointed out a scene was missing. It takes place in his boss's office right after the tub scene and right before Coogan appears on the helicopter en route to NY...
I was dissapointed that it was a cut version and wasn't too impressed with the quality of the picture. Not sure if the region 1 dvd is an improvment... at least it's uncut.
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Gant, firstly must appologise for using Grant, I miss read your name... Sorry
and it's still Coogan... :D
Looks like I am gonna have to invest in the US version of this.
I have always had a soft spot for this movie, since I was at school infact, so I want the complete version
CHEERS
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Yeah.. I feel the same. I think it's one of the first Clint films I ever saw, apart from maybe the Leone westerns... I've always been a fan of Coogans Bluff. Good story, Clint looks great, loads of action, loads of laughs... :)
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Hi Gant/Coogan,
The Uk disc is uncut. The scene you refer to only apprears in the US TV version and was NEVER part of the original release. It will not be in the reg 1 version either. It was only inserted together with a few extra sequences to pad the length of the tv version which was cut for other reasons.
The scene in his bosses office is ok but only slows the film down. Knowing what I do of Siegel's career it would have been an early scene to go.
Philo .
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The scene in question may not be important or striking cinematically, but it carries a significant piece of exposition: The man Coogan is supposed to extradite in New York is wanted for murder. Without that bit of information, he's just a drug-crazed hippie.
There's another brief scene (in the hospital) that is also apparently only found in some U.S. TV versions. In it, we see that Coogan disobeys the doctor's explicit instructions, and leaves the hospital against medical advice. It adds something (if a small something) to what we know of his character. I, for one, would have liked to have seen these two scenes on the DVD, at least as extras.
FWIW, here are transcriptions of the two scenes:
Scene: The sheriff’s office. The sheriff looks out the window, sees Coogan’s jeep with the two bullet holes in the windshield, sees Coogan coming his way. Coogan, outside the office door, knocks.
SHERIFF: Come in.
Coogan enters, wearing shades.
SHERIFF: Forty-seven minutes late.
COOGAN: So?
SHERIFF: So you know what a new windshield costs? Installed? $44.50.
COOGAN as he takes off his shades: Is that what you want to ... talk to me about?
SHERIFF: Not quite.
He goes to desk, takes out papers.
SHERIFF: Governor’s warrant. Duplicate flight, duplicate record, James Ringerman.
COOGAN: Ringerman?
He takes the papers.
SHERIFF as he takes a cigar from a box on his desk and lights it: Remember Ringerman? Discharged soldier, stole a car down at Bisby? Armed robbery, service station? Picked up a little blonde someplace. We found her dead, motel, busted neck. Apprehended November 3, escaped custody, November 9. Last fall. They picked him up in New York last week, they’re holding him for us. For you, that is.
COOGAN: Why me, sheriff?
SHERIFF: You’re the one who pinched him.
COOGAN: And you’re the one who lost him.
SHERIFF: Heffurnan lost him.
COOGAN: Well then, send Heffurnan.
SHERIFF: Are you telling me who to send?
COOGAN: I’m telling you that I was out there for three days.
SHERIFF: So? You had a nice, refreshing bath. Here’s the necessary information, where to go and who to see when you get there. Plus airline ticket vouchers. Get thrashing, Deputy.
COOGAN: What is it with me, sheriff?
SHERIFF: Well, let’s just say that I don’t like deputies who bust up my vehicles. You got a per diem in New York, I wanna see the bills. Any complaints?
COOGAN: No, no. I figure I came out ahead.
He helps himself to one of the sheriff’s cigars.
COOGAN exiting, smiling: You could have asked me to pay for the windshield.
He goes out as he puts the cigar in his mouth. The sheriff slams the cigar box shut. Cut to a cigar-shaped airborne helicopter.
In the "official" video version of the hospital scene, there’s a cut from a shot of Lt. McElroy exiting after his last line, "I’ll be back tomorrow" (Coogan, off camera, replies, "Yeah, you do that") to a closeup of Coogan in bed, then a longer shot as he then turns over, gets up and walks to the window, takes off his bandage, and looks out through the blinds. His point of view of the street below is the transition to another point of view of another street, this time his view from his hotel room; he’s left the hospital.
But in the "long" version, there’s a brief scene for the doctor between McElroy’s exit and Coogan’s getting out of bed. It goes like this:
McElroy exits. Cut to a medium shot of a doctor examining Coogan, who reclines in bed, facing away from the camera.
DOCTOR: New York’s finest. No pained smile, please.
COOGAN: How do you get to the Golden Hotel from here?
DOCTOR as he takes Coogan’s pulse: The Golden? I wouldn’t worry about it for a couple of days. You’ve got a little more time to put in here.
COOGAN: Thanks.
DOCTOR: I mean it.
He turns out the light above Coogan’s bed and begins to walk to the door.
DOCTOR: Don’t try to get up. You’ll fall down.
Exit. Cut to the closeup of Coogan, who gets up and walks to the window, etc., as outlined above.
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I think I remember that scene with the doctor as well. So were these scenes only in TV versions?
BTW, why are we talking about Coogan's Bluff in this thread? The transition was quite subtle. :D
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BTW, why are we talking about Coogan's Bluff in this thread? The transition was quite subtle. :D
Ooops ... well, Grant, I mean Gant brought it up, Philo responded, and I was just getting my 2 ¢ worth in ... :-[
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Hey..good stuff.
I never realised there were different versions..funny thing is, after reading thru the scenes KC mentions I can't help feeling that I have seen them on UK tv at some time. Is this possible Philo or just my imagination working overtime...
Shame they couldn't have been included as extras tho'..
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KC,
Thanks for that very interesting post.
I am not too pleased about it been cut out of the DVD though. >:(
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So whats the deal here... the uk dvd version is THE version that went out in Cinemas back in the late 60's.. Then , some time later when it turns up on tv Universal supply the stations with extra scenes so's it fits into their schedules better.... ???
Have I got this right ?
I gotsta know ?
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So whats the deal here... the uk dvd version is THE version that went out in Cinemas back in the late 60's.. Then , some time later when it turns up on tv Universal supply the stations with extra scenes so's it fits into their schedules better.... ???
Have I got this right ?
I gotsta know ?
Sure you've got it right. They used to do this with movies quite a bit. Fit in extra adds... cut a scene. Remove a piece due to unacceptable TV content...replace it with another scene. etc. etc.
I don't know if it is still a common practice.
WKC.
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Wow..... I never knew this.... Sure I knew they cut scenes to fit in the ad breaks etc.. but I never realised that they had access to scenes that never made the final cut....
Well, ya live and learn huh... :)
Does this mean that the scenes with Clint back with his kids (who looked after them while he was away anyway ?) in Unforgiven, might turn up on channel 5 some day when they got some spare minutes to fill....
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I take on board what KC says about the extra scenes but I can imagine Siegel possibly having to film that first extra scene and viewing it at dalies and thinking "Does the paying audience really want to hear about the price of windsheids". I always thought that was a feeble reason for sending him. He would have thought "Lets get him to NY". The film runs just under 90mins so the extra scenes could have always been part of the film. I think we have Siegel's version as a theatrical version and for tv (as usual) the studio can do what it wants.
Gant ,
Coogan has always been shown uncut on UK tv and always without the tv version scenes.
You can have the best of both worlds. I have a Technicolor theatrical print and straight after the end of the film follow the tv version scenes. 8)
Philo .
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I got both "Every Which Way" & "Any Which Way" DVDs through the letter box this morning, so guess what I will be watching tonight with a few ice cold beers :)
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I just got home from work, and I think I will join you.
Enjoy :D.
WKC.
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Well I must say both movies are superb, great quality & great sound
Fantastic :)
Plus..... it's the first time I've seen the rattle snake bit in "Any Which Way You Can", I can't remember ever seeing that clip.
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Hi Coogan,
Well as I said unless you were around and renting the original release video then you won't have seen it.
Even I was fairly young in 82!! ;)
Philo .
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Here is the cover of the only ever uncut UK edition. This is what to look out for at your boot sales.
(http://img21.exs.cx/img21/9809/wayuncut.jpg)
Philo .