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Title: Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: Matt on January 15, 2003, 04:11:07 PM
This is just a continuation of the original thread found HERE (http://www.clinteastwood.org/forums/index.php?board=3;action=display;threadid=257;start=0)  Here's the way the game works:

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This is an idea I came up with to stir up good Eastwood conversation, and I hope it will also nudge some of our less talkative members to post.  

It's a game of Tag.  I'll start by naming two members and asking them EASTWOOD-related questions.  If they choose to answer the question, they will then be able to "tag" two more members and come up with questions for them to answer. You may not join in the game unless you are tagged.  But, if there's a very interesting question that is asked of someone else that you'd like to answer, by all means start a topic on the board in the appropriate forum.  This game is ALL ABOUT getting Eastwood conversation rolling and learning from each other's differing opinions.

If it's your turn to name two members to ask questions of, please don't ask anything too personal and of course... keep all questions related to Eastwood and his movies.  You may want to IM (Instant Message) whoever you're posting your questions to so that they'll know they were tagged.  And, finally... don't forget to keep checking back yourself!

If you are tagged more than once in the same day, instead of tagging two more members, you should only tag ONE member per question you answer for the remainder of that day.

We have a lot of outstanding questions from the original thread, so if you were asked something there, just copy and paste the question to this thread, answer it and then tag two more members (or one member if you already tagged two today).

Anyone who has already answered questions and owes us "tags", jump in here and get this thread rolling!  :D
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: Brendan on January 15, 2003, 04:26:54 PM
I'll post mine, that I never poste from awhile ago.

Lt. Briggs - If you were Eastwood's garbage man, would you go through his garbage?

bdc28 - If you were a car salesman, and Eastwood came to buy a car from you, would you try and screw him over like all car dealers?
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: AKA23 on January 15, 2003, 04:35:39 PM
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AKA:  If you were to choose one character from Eastwood's entire film career that reminds you the most of yourself, which character would it be?

After giving this one some more thought, I think I'd like to answer it simply by saying that I don't really think that I identify with any one particular Eastwood character entirely, or that any one character reminds me of myself. For me, I think I'd have to amalgamate a lot of different characters to come up with something that I really identified with. In a way, I think that we enjoy Eastwood and his films because his characters serve to take us outside of ourselves. His characters can often say and do things that we ourselves cannot do, or wouldn't feel comfortable doing in the context of our modern society.
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: AKA23 on January 15, 2003, 04:40:43 PM
Now for my questions :)

Matt : If you were to choose one character from Eastwood's entire film career that reminds you the most of yourself, which character would it be?

Does it look familiar? HEHE..I only ask because I think you could come up with a much better answer than I could, and often times when we ask questions, we have something in the back of our mind as an answer for ourselves, and we're interested to see how other people may answer the same question. I would add a why to that question though because I'd like to know the character, and then I'd like to know the rationale for your identification with that character. Thanks :)

Philo : You're in charge and you've been commissioned by Warner Bros. You want to get Clint to do an audio commentary for one of your favorite of his films. Which film would it be, and what would you say to Clint to try to persuade him of the merits of audio commentary so that he would break his long standing tradition of not providing one? Would you be successful?


Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: Matt on January 15, 2003, 05:51:30 PM
After giving this one some more thought, I think I'd like to answer it simply by saying that I don't really think that I identify with any one particular Eastwood character entirely, or that any one character reminds me of myself. For me, I think I'd have to amalgamate a lot of different characters to come up with something that I really identified with. In a way, I think that we enjoy Eastwood and his films because his characters serve to take us outside of ourselves. His characters can often say and do things that we ourselves cannot do, or wouldn't feel comfortable doing in the context of our modern society.

And you thought you answered that enough to tag others???  :D  What a cop-out... you should at least mention a few of the characters that you identify with if you can't narrow it down to one.  And remember, it doesn't have to be a character portrayed by Eastwood, it could be any character from any of his movies.
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: Matt on January 15, 2003, 05:59:53 PM
Now for my questions :)

Matt : If you were to choose one character from Eastwood's entire film career that reminds you the most of yourself, which character would it be?

Does it look familiar? HEHE..I only ask because I think you could come up with a much better answer than I could, and often times when we ask questions, we have something in the back of our mind as an answer for ourselves, and we're interested to see how other people may answer the same question. I would add a why to that question though because I'd like to know the character, and then I'd like to know the rationale for your identification with that character. Thanks :)

I wasn't thinking when I posted this last night about myself, I was really tired, and felt like I owed my tags, so I just threw the first questions on the board that I could think of.    

I've always thought I was the most like Bronco Billy McCoy, but maybe that's just wishful thinking.  There's some of him in me, there's some of Robert Kincaid and there's some of Wes Block too.  I'm a combination of the three, at least, that's the closest I could come up to describing myself within the boundaries of Eastwood roles.

I'd enjoy being more like one of the cowboys... maybe "The Good"  :D  But, it just ain't so.  :(

As for why... the most obvious reason would be Billy's loyalty to his friends, his stubborness and pride, and his belief that you can be anything you want to be... you just have to go out and become it.  He believes in people and puts them above anything else in the world.  That's what we have in common.  

I'll come back with tags in a minute.  Gotta find some members who are participating, who haven't been tagged in a while.
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: AKA23 on January 15, 2003, 06:21:48 PM
You're killing me Matt!! Alright, I'll do my best here, but this isn't going to be very good. I apoligize if it's absolute crap. I'm not even going to think about other characters in his films, but I wasn't aware that your original question allowed for characters that Eastwood didn't portray. For your answer to mine, try to limit it to Eastwood characters.

I think in a way I may identify a little with Luther Whitney from Absolute Power, perhaps. If you take away the fact that the guy was a thief, and made his living for many years off the hard work of other people, I think at his core he's really a good person. He feels a sense of guilt for not doing anything to stop the murder, but in reality, he wouldn't have been able to do anything. He would have gotten himself killed as well, and Christy Sullivan still would have gotten shot by the secret service agents. He's thinking about running, but then he decides no, he isn't going to let President Richmond get away with this, and he finds a way to stop him. He sacrifices himself and puts himself in harm's way in the interests of justice. He isn't a selfish character. Even though he's a private citizen, he has a real sense of justice and desires to do the right thing. He's really a very moral person.

He's the little guy, but he finds a way to go up against these very powerful and corrupt politicians, and to do what's right. He doesn't just go in there with guns blazing, he's a very intellectual and insightful character. He maps out what he's going to do, and then he goes ahead and does it. He doesn't just overpower them, he out thinks them.

When his family is in danger, and even though he had made certain mistakes in the past, he comes to their aid and really he actively pursues a better relationship with his daughter. Family was always important to him, but he just didn't let other people see that. He had all of those pictures of Kate, and would go to her refrigerator and buy her food, and look into her apartment to see how she was doing, even though she didn't know it. There's a real sense of love there, and when she was in danger, he really cared and he tried to do whatever he could to protect her. I like to think of myself as a person who is very family oriented, and who really cares about my family, and if there's anything that I can do, I usually want to help. I want my family to know that I'm there for them, and that they can feel comfortable coming to me with anything that may be on their mind. I'm always here to support them and I want to feel that even though in some cases, we're separated by oceans and thousands of miles, that the relationship is very important to me, and so I put a lot of thought and strength into the bonds of the family relationships, and I think that although it doesn't become clear to Kate until later on in life, Luther does too.

His sense of justice, his desire to do the right thing even though in the past he may have consistently done something else, his kindness, his compassion, his intellectual nature, and his ability to, in his own way, right the wrongs of the past and try to move forward, both in his inability to save Christy Sullivan, and in his own family life, I admire these qualities. I would like to think that I identify with Luther Whitney, because I do see some of these qualities in myself, and even if I don't completely possess them or use them to my full advantage, I'd like to, and I think the goal is something worth pursuing. Luther did too.

Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: KC on January 15, 2003, 06:59:31 PM
Matt, it's plain that the only Eastwood character that AKA resembles AT ALL is John Wilson from White Hunter, Black Heart.  ;)

Why? None of the others TALKS nearly enough!  :o  ;D
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: Matt on January 15, 2003, 07:02:13 PM
Tag time!  ;D

Christopher:   If you could live the life of any of Eastwood's film characters, which one would you want to be?


Red:   Which of Eastwood's film girlfriends would you most like to date... not the actress, but the character as shown in the film.
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: D'Ambrosia on January 15, 2003, 07:17:43 PM
Originally posted by Christopher:
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DAmbrosia: What actor would you like to see teamed up with Clint in a movie that he hasn't already worked with?

If Eastwood could have traveled back in time one of the actors that I would have loved to see him work with is of Humphrey Bogart.  He would have made a good sidekick along  Clint in something like City Heat.  Clint and Bogie would have made for some real entertaining cinema.  A modern day actor I would have liked to have seen Clint work with is Jack Nicholson in something like The Two Jakes.  It’s to bad that there aren’t really any movies today that get together all of the cinema icons in one picture.  Movies like Tora! Tora! Tora! and Midway back in the 70’s were good examples.  The title sequence to A Bridge To Far is an incredible credit roll.  I’ve never seen a movie that has one screen giant after another like that one… James Caan, Michael Caine, Sean Connery, Edward Fox, Elliott Gould, Gene Hackman, Anthony Hopkins, Laurence Olivier, Ryan O’Neal, Robert Redford, Maximilian Schell.  It would have been cool to See Clint in something like that with those actors…

Originally posted by mgk:

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D'Amb:   If you were "it" and playing "15 Questions" in the Trivia Section and Clint was playing along with us, what clue would you be looking for in hopes that you could stump Clint (as well as the rest of us)?

If I were playing 15 questions with Clint and tried to stump him I’d have to pick something arbitrary like his squint.  Something he always possess and uses rarely but when used says a thousand words.  Of course he uses that in more than one movie so it wouldn’t be really fair.  But you did say try and stump right?

Anyway let me think up some questions…
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: AKA23 on January 15, 2003, 08:30:47 PM
Matt, it's plain that the only Eastwood character that AKA resembles AT ALL is John Wilson from White Hunter, Black Heart.  ;)

Why? None of the others TALKS nearly enough!  :o  ;D

Hey guys! That's not fair!! I put a lot of thought into the answer to that one! You didn't like my answer, KC!!?? Sorry if you didn't want any thought to be put into the question.  ::) What do you think, Matt? You were the one that asked the question :)
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: KC on January 15, 2003, 09:17:49 PM
Oh, AKA! I was just kidding! I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings! I know you put a lot of thought into your answer. But you shouldn't feel bad about being compared to Wilson ... he's one of Clint's best characters, isn't he? And, maybe he talks a lot ... but only because he has a lot to say! ;)  :)  ;)
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: philo on January 16, 2003, 07:57:54 AM
AKA ,
          you are killing me with that question   :o  I am going to spend the afternoon working and thinking about that one.

Here in the meantime are my tags :


KC

Clint has made a right/wrong move to bring back Philo Beddoe for a third "which way" project. He has insisted that you are the person for the screenplay and wants a five line premise to show the head of the studio. How would you bring everyone back and approach this most difficult task?


The Stranger

Clint is coming to television centre , would you dare knock on his dressing room door , and if so how would you introduce yourself? (make it good because I would be right behind you ;) )


Matt

Which Eastwood trailer has most made you think wow!


AKA

A group of us from the web board are going to stay at the mission ranch , we persuade you to contact ahead to try and arrange a hello between us and Mr Eastwood. How would you convey the importance of this and to whom?


Red

What is best ever UK Clint Eastwood film poster and why?


MGK

You have unlimited money , what is the one Eastwod item you just have to have?



Philo .
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: mgk on January 16, 2003, 11:39:09 AM
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MGK
You have unlimited money , what is the one Eastwod item you just have to have?

Philo, I certainly like the idea of having unlimited money. If I did have unlimited money and had the opportunity to buy any Eastwood item that I wanted, I think I would want that bronze statue of Eastwood that I have seen on one of the documentary films I have on him...it's sitting behind him just over his shoulder.  It's really unique and that would be a nice addition.


Palm:  I know that The Bridges of Madison County is your favorite Eastwood movie, but what would be your second favorite Eastwood movie?

Lilly: You have the privilege to be the casting director on any film Eastwood has done.  Which actor would you MOST like to replace...one that you didn't think was suited for his/her role...and who would you replace him/her with?
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: AKA23 on January 16, 2003, 12:27:07 PM

AKA

A group of us from the web board are going to stay at the mission ranch , we persuade you to contact ahead to try and arrange a hello between us and Mr Eastwood. How would you convey the importance of this and to whom?

Gee, Philo, thanks a lot for giving me the toughest assignment in history! HEHE..I'm not sure that I have the skills necessary to really be up to this amazing challenge, but I suppose that after the question I asked you, it would only be fair to try and ask me a similar one that further reaches into the realms of impossibility.  

I think I'd want to first talk to one of the people that works in the restaurant or hotel, one of the lower level people who may be able to give me some kind of information as to who to go to next, or even where Mr. Eastwood may frequent so we'd have a better shot of arranging that hello. Then, I think I'd want to talk to one of the managers and I'd try to explain that a small group of us have flown in from different parts of the country to stay at the Mission Ranch, and that we are very dedicated members of the best Clint Eastwood site on the web, and that we know that Mr. Eastwood is aware of the site. Then, I think I'd politely ask if it would be possible, as we have made all of this effort to come to Mission Ranch, if the manager or someone could give us an idea when Mr. Eastwood would be in the area, and if we couldn't arrange a specific meeting, if we could at least know where he would be at some particular time, so that we could try to approach him and just say hello to him ourselves. If a specific meeting is what you're looking for, I'd try to ask if it would be possible to have a minute or two of his time just so that we all could say hello and that we wouldn't bother Mr. Eastwood or take up too much of his time, but that the experience of just being able to meet him and say that we were in the same place as Clint Eastwood and that we were able to just get a "hello" and say good evening or something, would be a great life ambition. Then, I'd thank the manager for his time and consideration, and that's it. There's not much else that you can say!

Unless I'm going to make up this elaborate story that I have this great movie idea for Mr. Eastwood and that he'd be perfect for it and that I wanted a minute of his time to give him the script, or that I had a message from Warner Bros, an urgent message for Mr. Eastwood, and that it couldn't wait,  but see, I wouldn't be the person to ask for that job, because I'm just not good at all that dishonesty and covering up the truth to achieve your desired aims deal. So, you'd have to give the job to someone else if that's what you were looking for! :) Besides, I think sincerity would probably work better anyway!  
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: D'Ambrosia on January 16, 2003, 02:19:12 PM
A couple of tags...

Nightwing:
I you were blondy in GBU would you shoot Tuco in the end and take the gold?

Matt:
If Eastwood was comming over to hang out which Eastwood movie would you guys watch?

KC:
If Eastwood were comming to New York to visit you what restaurant would you take him to?

Blu:
If you had to write a script in which Harry is killed how would he meet his demise...

I think I'm caught up know... whew...

BTW Nightwing:
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If you were Clint's garbage man would you go though his garbage...?
LOL---Ha,Ha,Ha--Cracking up big time
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: Brendan on January 16, 2003, 02:25:34 PM
A couple of tags...

Nightwing:
If you were blondy in GBU would you shoot Tuco in the end and take the gold?

No. I would maybe take more gold then I should, but I wouldnt shoot him. I wouldnt have shot him down though. I wouldve left him hanging up. He can find his own way down.

D'Ambrosia - If you were Eastwood's garbage collector, would you go through his garbage?

Conan - Do you think you could out run Eastwood?
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: Conan on January 16, 2003, 05:56:08 PM

Conan - Do you think you could out run Eastwood?

  Assuming you mean on foot...I'm in pretty good aerobic and anaerobic shape.  Eastwood is obviously in top condition for his age, and there is of course almost half a century in age difference.  I believe that Clint has tremendous lower body strength and I also believe he knows proper running form/stride for both sprinting and long distance.  If we raced a hundred yard dash, and Clint was having a good day, he could take me.  Especially if he psyches me out - which is very possible considering he's one of a select few idols of mine.  Beyond a 100, I'd take him due to age-related stamina.
  Even though I stunk something awful, I did run track in HS.  The only time I placed first was when the rest of the runners didn't know where the real finish line was; it was poorly marked and I knew this in advance :)
  I think my response to this was overlong and too serious :)

D'Ambrosia You and Clint are going to the range, which gun from any of his westerns (No Dirty Harrys) do you ask him to bring?

Nightwing Clint is planning "Dirty Harry:  Reloaded" and wants you to come up with a tagline or catch phrase, what is it?
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: Matt on January 16, 2003, 06:11:16 PM
Matt:
If Eastwood was comming over to hang out which Eastwood movie would you guys watch?

Whatever movie he wanted to!  :D  What's that, Clint?  You want to watch Paint Your Wagon?  Sure, you bet!   ;D

I think it would be just too cool to watch Dirty Harry with Clint Eastwood.  That would be the best choice, but on the other hand, he might be tired of that one... do ya think? ;)   Maybe he'd rather watch one of the films he directed, and if so, then I'd probably enjoy watching White Hunter, Black Heart with him the most.  There'd be an awful lot to talk to him about the filming of that movie, and it's also a pure pleasure to watch.  If I was really good friends with Clint, maybe we could get drunk and watch Every Which Way But Loose and make fun of Sondra's singing.  ;D

So, to answer the question, if he didn't care what we'd watch, it would have to be Dirty Harry, with WHBH as a backup.  :)

TAGGING.............   MGK!  ;D

If you were really caught in these situations, which would be the most difficult to get through?  Being on Bronco Billy's Wheel of Fortune and having knives thrown at you.... or trying to do leg presses at the gym while Wes Block did dips off the bar right behind you while looking down at you?  (I'm sure you love me for that one ;) )    ;D

Philo:  I'm going to answer this one of yours next, but I know you're the man that knows the trailers best, so I'd like to hear your answer to the same question:  Which Eastwood trailer has most made you think "wow!"

Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: Brendan on January 16, 2003, 06:15:41 PM
  The only time I placed first was when the rest of the runners didn't know where the real finish line was; it was poorly marked and I knew this in advance :)

Nightwing Clint is planning "Dirty Harry:  Reloaded" and wants you to come up with a tagline or catch phrase, what is it?

You ass. Do ever think back on that moment and regret it? You cheater. ;D 8) :P

Anyway, to you question, first of all, I'd laugh at him and tell thats quite the pathetic name for a Dirty Harry movie. I'd probably call it, 'Dirty Harry: Episode 6: Attacks of the Ralien Non-existent Baby Clones." Just kidding.

Tag line huh? Hmmm...

'Lock and load... he's back.'

'Go ahead, make his day.'

'The man, the myth, the legend... Dirty Harry has returned.'

'Dirty Harry is back, and is looking for justice... the Dirty Harry way.'

Thats all I can think of.

Hemlock - Who would you re-cast in any Eastwood DIRECTED movie and why?
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: Matt on January 16, 2003, 06:31:28 PM

Matt
Which Eastwood trailer has most made you think wow!

I went through a bunch of trailers, and if I had never seen any of these movies, I think the trailer that would make me want to run to the nearest theater would be Sudden Impact.  By now, I would have already seen the first three Dirty Harry films, and I'd be aching for another... and that trailer is awesome.  The music is chilling, we see that great silhouette shot of Eastwood with the .44 and not once, but TWICE "Go ahead... make my day."   I know you don't like the movie, but judging just on the trailer, that's gotta be one of the best.

Honorable mentions to Hang 'em High and Unforgiven.  

Another tag:

Holden:  I remember you wrote a LONG time ago, that you would love to hang out at dinner with John Wilson.   If you could hang with any Eastwood character for a night, would Wilson be your first choice?
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: Hemlock on January 16, 2003, 06:34:38 PM
You can pick almost evry film that Clint make with Sondra Locke.I never understand what he saw in her.Unfortunately he did bunch of films with her and she was good only in Sudden Impact.Think how much greater his films could have been if there was another actress in Locke`s place.Sally Field,Meryl Streep and so on.
So now I´ll have to tag somebody,right?
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: Matt on January 16, 2003, 06:39:17 PM
You can pick almost evry film that Clint make with Sondra Locke.I never understand what he saw in her.Unfortunately he did bunch of films with her and she was good only in Sudden Impact.Think how much greater his films could have been if there was another actress in Locke`s place.Sally Field,Meryl Streep and so on.
So now I´ll have to tag somebody,right?

You can tag two members, since I believe this is the first question you're answering today.  If you are asked another today, after that you'd only tag one person.

Since this game is so busy, make sure you quote the question that you're answering so we know what you're responding to.
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: Hemlock on January 16, 2003, 07:08:08 PM
Since this game is so busy, make sure you quote the question that you're answering so we know what you're responding to.
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Thanks Matt.This is quite new to me and maybe I`m not the best player because  after this day it`s gonna be sometime before I`m near computer again.

Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: mgk on January 16, 2003, 07:30:05 PM
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mgk: Which Clint films did you have to watch at least 2-3 times before you really began to like, or appreciate it?


Sorry, Agent, I completely missed this tag from you on January 13, 2003.  The two Eastwood films that I had to watch two or three times before I really appreciated them were Bronco Billy and A Perfect World.  The common theme in those two seems to be that Clint was not playing his usual role of the western hero or the "Dirty Harry hero" that I was so used to seeing him play.  But, both films eventually became two of my favorites.

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MATT TAGGING.............  MGK!  

If you were really caught in these situations, which would be the most difficult to get through?  Being on Bronco Billy's Wheel of Fortune and having knives thrown at you.... or trying to do leg presses at the gym while Wes Block did dips off the bar right behind you while looking down at you?  (I'm sure you love me for that one  )    


Yes, I love you for this one, Matt.  I think having knives thrown at me on the Wheel of Fortune might actually be safer than having Clint looking over my shoulder while I'm doing leg presses.  However, if I had to choose between the two, having knives thrown at me would be much more difficult for me to get through.  Now,  if you were the one behind me looking over my shoulder, Matt, I might have to choose "the wheel." :P


Doug:  I notice that you picked The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly as well as Unforgiven and Thunderbolt and Lightfoot as three movies you could watch over and over if stranded on an island.  What is it about Thunderbolt and Lightfoot that makes it one of your choices?

Christopher:  Which character in an Eastwood movie is your least favorite and why?

mgk
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: Brendan on January 16, 2003, 08:04:19 PM


BTW Nightwing:
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If you were Clints garbage man, would go through his garbage?
LOL---Ha,Ha,Ha--Cracking up big time

I know I would. Who knows what treasures you could find. Used shirts. Important shredded documents. Directors cut of Unforgiven and Outlaw Josey Wales.

Gotta be some good stuff in there.
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: Xichado on January 16, 2003, 10:15:34 PM
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Xichado - what would Clint have to do -or have done in the past and you just find out about - to stop you being a fan?
Good question Daisy.

Uhm! Let me start by saying that I really don't care much for Clint's personal affairs/life or any other person that I admire (maybe with the exception of Zelda Fitzgerald, who lived a very passionate life and yet her life is like an amazing canvas with well defined strokes of sadness and a struggle to survive and to overcome life’s challenges) and, regarding Hollywood, I look more into the work and performance of the artist than to their personal life.

Clint had to step into the dark side of humanity to stop me from being a fan. So far, from the information I read here and there (most part off this board), he hasn't done anything that I consider unacceptable. The man made his mistakes like I do mine.

If, say, tomorrow Clint would declare himself a neo-fascist/racist/or even a supporter of terrorism (one of these or all together, and these are some of the things I consider to be the dark side of humanity) and if Clint's future movies would reflect upon his newly found ideals than I am pretty sure that I would walk way and stopped being a fan. Probably I would remain a fan of his old movies but I couldn't accept his new artistic/idealistic phase.
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: Xichado on January 16, 2003, 10:32:01 PM
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Xichado:   You're getting tired, but you want to watch an Eastwood film.  What's the one film you stay away from the most, because you're sure to fall asleep before it's over.

That would have to be City Heat, it's a very dull movie.

I think if we had a Clint Eastwood's Least Favorite Movie Survivor, City Heat would probably win by a landslide.
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: Xichado on January 16, 2003, 10:50:06 PM
Here's two of my tags for tonight. I will post 2 more tomorrow.

KC:
I read that you don’t watch too much tv but I am hoping you know a couple of game shows. Imagine Clint as a host of an existing (one that aired or is currently on the air) game show… Clint would be hosting ______ (fill in the blank) and tell us why. ;)  (hope you say Jeopardy, because that's my favorite one ;D)

Matt:
You’re Clint's new manager and Clint decides he wants to play a gay role in an upcoming movie.

The only two roles you can find available are: a) Harley-Davidson Gang Cold Hearted Butch and b) a Kind Hearted Drag Queen.

Which one would you recommend to Clint?  :D ;D ;D
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: Matt on January 16, 2003, 10:59:43 PM
Here's two of my tags for tonight. I will post 2 more tomorrow.

Matt:
You’re Clint's new manager and Clint decides he wants to play a gay role in an upcoming movie.

The only two roles you can find available are: a) Harley-Davidson Gang Cold Hearted Butch and b) a Kind Hearted Drag Queen.

Which one would you recommend to Clint?  :D ;D ;D

I'd recommend he retire.  ;D

I wouldn't want to see a 72 year old Clint Eastwood as a gay drag queen or a biker b!tch.  I think we'd have to call it a career and retire with Blood Work.

Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: baggie on January 17, 2003, 12:35:59 AM
What with computer problems and more problems logging into this new board, I have much to catch up on.  

baggieb: What's your favorite landscape shot in an Eastwood move, just in terms of the landscape, not what it means to the story?

KC

That would have to be the scene in Unforgiven where Munny and the Kid are waiting under the tree  for the payment to arrive. In fact, just about the whole movie had magnificent scenery.  Makes me want to revisit Calgary!!!

baggieb:  In all your many trips to Carmel, did you ever get the opportunity to meet Clint?  Or, even see him?  

mgk  

Unfortunately, I have never been there at the same time he was!  I did get the opportunity to fondle the Kincaid Photography truck (twice!).  And I have a friend who has seen he and Dina out to dinner.  

Now my turn - and the real reason I took so long to answer--

Blu-- Since you're in the neighborhood, have you considered putting up a standup silhouette on the tressle?  Is it still there?

Daisy - You have been assigned to teach a class (young adults) in pop culture. Clint is, of course, your subject, but what character would you choose to represent his work?

Matt - you see a help wanted ad for a temp job at Mission Ranch. When you apply, you find that the job is Shepherd for the bayside flock.  Would you take the job?

All for now - I owe one and my imaginer just ran dry.
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: KC on January 17, 2003, 01:09:15 AM
KC
Clint has made a right/wrong move to bring back Philo Beddoe for a third "which way" project. He has insisted that you are the person for the screenplay and wants a five line premise to show the head of the studio. How would you bring everyone back and approach this most difficult task?
Sorry, Philo, I have to answer this one the way Matt did the one about Clint as a drag queen or "biker butch" ... if he came to me for this screenplay, I'd have to be honest and tell him not only would I not do it, but if he wanted my advice, he really should think about retiring before he even considered anything of the sort.  :o

And, even if he then turned around and somehow managed to find someone else to undertake the writing chores, I don't think the project would get off the ground unless he were willing to work with Sondra Locke again (and she with him) ... because who else could be lovely and talented enough in that role?  ::)

A couple of tags...
KC:
If Eastwood were coming to New York to visit you what restaurant would you take him to?
What is it about Eastwood and dinner out with me? This is the second time I've had a tag in this line ... ;) Well, I wouldn't take him to one of the fancy French places, even assuming he'd be asking me to "sit back and start asking like a girl" when the check arrived. I'd be nervous enough just to be in his company without wondering if I was picking up the wrong fork or something (not that Clint would look down his nose at me on that account, but the waiters would).

So, if he likes Greek food, I'd probably take him to my neighborhood Greek restaurant, the Greek Kitchen on Tenth Avenue ... or if he was in the mood for hearty American fare with a Southwest accent, we could go to Route 66, a diner-like affair on Ninth Avenue.

Both places might appeal to him for extraculinary reasons ... The Greek Kitchen is right across the street from John Jay College, the "police academy" branch of the City University of New York. And Route 66 would remind him of the 50s TV show by the same name, which starred his old Army buddy Martin Milner ... Both are also conveniently close to my place, and neither has great desserts, so I could suggest we come back here for coffee and dessert afterwards ... I know he'd also like to take a look at my collection of Eastwood lobby cards!  8) ;)

KC:
I read that you don’t watch too much tv but I am hoping you know a couple of game shows. Imagine Clint as a host of an existing (one that aired or is currently on the air) game show… Clint would be hosting ______ (fill in the blank) and tell us why. ;)  (hope you say Jeopardy, because that's my favorite one ;D)
Sorry, Xichado, but I have to beg off this one. I wasn't exaggerating, I really do not watch TV AT ALL unless it's something to do with Clint, or baseball (and once in a great while, an old movie). I can honestly say I've never seen a game show in all my adult life. Maybe you'd like to give me another tag, and let someone else have this one.

Since I didn't answer Xichado's, I guess I just owe three new tags ...


mgk: if you could have one animal from any of Clint's movies as a pet, which one would you take? (It would be young and healthy and have all its shots, of course ... and be housebroken. ;) )


Matt: I can't blame you for answering Xichado's tag the way you did, but can you imagine him wanting to play a gay role, but a perfectly ordinary person (or extraordinary, the way Clint's characters are always extraordinary)? If you were his manager and he asked whether he should play a character who seemed right for him in every way except for being openly gay, would you advise him to take the part?

Maybe the guy would be, oh I don't know, an ex-bank robber who teamed up with a handsome young kid for one last job ... ;)


Daisy: If you could journey back to 1968 and get yourself cast in one of the female roles in Where Eagles Dare, would you rather be Mary or Heidi? Or would you write yourself a third part ... one where you might have a little more ... interaction with Lt. Schaffer?




Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: Palm on January 17, 2003, 08:03:47 AM
Palm:  I know that The Bridges of Madison County is your favorite Eastwood movie, but what would be your second favorite Eastwood movie?

Wow, let me think.........
I guess it must be Tightrope......
It has some funny scenes in it (The Hard-on scene and the "bowling" scenes always makes me laugh.)
Clint's female Co-star is very good.
He also is fulnerable in it (and sexy)
And i also think it is a very good suspense film.


AKA : if you could get one item of an Eastwood-film which one would you like to have ?????

Daisy : Seems you have been doing your share of fondling the Kincaid-truck. If you could drive away with it and drive right into an Estwood-scene, which one would you choose ????
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: Doug on January 17, 2003, 11:57:18 AM

Doug:  I notice that you picked The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly as well as Unforgiven and Thunderbolt and Lightfoot as three movies you could watch over and over if stranded on an island.  What is it about Thunderbolt and Lightfoot that makes it one of your choices?


mgk

Besides liking the story a lot and thinking it's a really good movie, I really enjoy the chemistry between all the characters.  It's not that they're all likeable characters, of course, but I like seeing them all on the screen together.  Especially with calm, cool Clint in the middle.

Antipatros
Is there a German book you'd really like to see Clint make a movie from?  Maybe he'd just direct it if there's no role for him.

William
What do you think is the most surreal moment out of all of Clint's films?
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: Aline on January 17, 2003, 12:13:45 PM
William:What became you a Clint fan?Some striking characteristic.


Agent:Sonia Braga is a brasilian actress that played with Clint in The Rookie.Her character was very criticized here,called speechless and vulgar.Do you agree?What your thoughts about her performance in that movie?

Xichado:What do you think if we, board fans,arranged a real meeting,in person and did a nice party to pay a homage to Clint when he turn 73 Clint years old?Do you think he would appear there?   ;D

KC:If you were define Clint with an only one word,which it would be?

Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: AKA23 on January 17, 2003, 04:06:48 PM

AKA : if you could get one item of an Eastwood-film which one would you like to have ?????

Unfortunately, I'm really not much of an Eastwood collector, Palm. Pretty much all I have are some of his movies, and even THAT is sorely lacking! :( I don't even have press kits or production stills, or anything like that. Is money no object here, or do I have to work within the confines of a specific budget? I'm not really sure, but wouldn't it be cool to have one of those hats! That one from Pale Rider was pretty cool!
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: AKA23 on January 17, 2003, 04:08:15 PM
I think I owe at least four questions! Two from yesterday, and another two from today. Sorry I didn't post two yesterday! I'll have to think of some and be back!
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: william on January 17, 2003, 05:56:44 PM
William:What became you a Clint fan?Some striking characteristic.



Hello Aline,
I first became aware of Clint Eastwood when "Play Misty for Me" came out in a small theater in chula vista california where i grew up as a boy. I fell in love with a young Donna Mills that day. The next time I thought about this man was when my mother told me that Clints' birthday was on May 31st also, and that was when we were watching "A fistfull of Dollars" on the tv. After getting married 20 years ago, I began to collect his movies. Just recently I found this website, and the rest is history. I did get a chance to meet him in the 90s when I took my wife driving up through northern california, looking at my old stomping grounds. ;D


Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: AKA23 on January 17, 2003, 07:20:44 PM
Here are my questions:

Gant: : I know that you are not a huge fan of Clint Eastwood's movie version of Firefox , but that you liked the original novel by Craig Thomas quite a bit. In your view, what would have made it a better film? If you were in charge, what things would you have changed about it to improve it and have it be a great Eastwood film? Would you have stayed closer to the book (if drastic changes were made from the original), or what?

KC : If you can, please give us a description of your favorite scene in all of Eastwood? Is there a special scene that stands out to you above the rest, or that you favor, or anything of that nature? If so, please give a description and an explanation as to why that particular scene is like that for you? If this scene happens to be for Unforgiven , please describe that one, but as I know it's your favorite film in all of Eastwood, try to pick out another scene from a different Eastwood film as well!  ;D

Matt : Other than your day job, is there any particular occupation that you'd like to try or that you thought would be interesting that Eastwood has portrayed in his films? Would you like to be the reporter uncovering the truth in True Crime , the sex investigator in Tightrope , or the no nonesense Inspector of the Dirty Harry series? What job would be interesting to you? Ever watched an Eastwood film and gone "well, isn't that a cool job? It'd be interesting to try that out for awhile?

Stranger: Is there any aspect of Clint Eastwood's personality that you'd like to adopt as your own? Is there anything about Clint Eastwood that makes you say "gee, I wish I could be more like that." If so, what is that characteristic or aspect, and why would you like to be more like him in that respect?

 
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: Xichado on January 17, 2003, 08:00:43 PM
Sorry, Xichado, but I have to beg off this one. I wasn't exaggerating, I really do not watch TV AT ALL unless it's something to do with Clint, or baseball
Ok  ;), I’ll just ask you a question about Clint and baseball.

Clint would like to direct a movie about baseball. He asks for your advice, is there any behind the scenes situation in baseball that you think could turn into a great movie? Or even the professional life of a baseball player that you consider remarkable and would advice Clint to make a movie about?
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: Christopher on January 17, 2003, 08:14:18 PM
Matt asked:
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Christopher: If you could live the life of any of Eastwood's film characters, which one would you want to be?
Of all his characters, I think to live the life of Bronco Billy would be the best. Though Billy has had his share of problems in his past, he's a dreamer and makes his own dreams come true.

MGK asked:
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Christopher: Which character in an Eastwood movie is your least favorite and why?
I've been thinking about this one for a bit, and I can't come up with anything at the moment. There are certainly characters that make you mad like the trigger-happy shooter in A Perfect World. But then the purpose of his character is to be a jerk, kill a man for no reason, so then it justifies your own satisfaction of watching Eastwood's character punch him out and Dern's character give him a knee to the groin. I don't think that really answers the question because that character does serve a purpose.
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: Matt on January 17, 2003, 08:45:32 PM
Matt - you see a help wanted ad for a temp job at Mission Ranch. When you apply, you find that the job is Shepherd for the bayside flock.  Would you take the job?

No, for one reason... the guys here would never let up on the sheep jokes, and all my complaints about lack of sex would take on a whole new meaning. (http://home.swfla.rr.com/mattreigns/instantshock.gif)


Matt: I can't blame you for answering Xichado's tag the way you did, but can you imagine him wanting to play a gay role, but a perfectly ordinary person (or extraordinary, the way Clint's characters are always extraordinary)? If you were his manager and he asked whether he should play a character who seemed right for him in every way except for being openly gay, would you advise him to take the part?

Maybe the guy would be, oh I don't know, an ex-bank robber who teamed up with a handsome young kid for one last job ... ;)

Well at the risk of everyone thinking I'm homophobic, no, I'd probably not recommend that role to Clint.  I don't think his fans want to see him in a role like that, and I think if he was going to do something like that, he should have done it a few decades ago.  I think at this point in his career, every role he does may be his last one, and after Blood Work, I think if we're going to see Clint onscreen again, it should be in a role that is more of the Eastwood that we've all grown to love.  Jake said in a post about Blood Work that his fans aren't tired of Eastwood, they just miss him.  I agree with that... I want to see Clint be Clint.  If he wants to do a film that handles the subject of homosexuality in a mature and respectful manner, then he should direct it.  I enjoyed Spacey's performance in Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil, but I can't begin to imagine Clint doing a role where he would say lines like that.   He's one of the few actors that a guy can idolize and hang pictures of him on his walls and not for a minute have anyone wonder if he's "that way".  

I don't know what the script on this movie that Clint would be considering would be like, but I read where Will Smith once went up to Denzel Washington early in his career because he was offered a role that he wanted to take, but the character happened to be gay.  Denzel said to not take the role and to never kiss a man on camera because he'd regret it someday.  Will turned down the role, and said he was grateful for that advice.  Denzel's one of the few actors that I rate nearly as high as Eastwood and I think I'd listen to him on this one.

Matt : Other than your day job, is there any particular occupation that you'd like to try or that you thought would be interesting that Eastwood has portrayed in his films? Would you like to be the reporter uncovering the truth in True Crime , the sex investigator in Tightrope , or the no nonesense Inspector of the Dirty Harry series? What job would be interesting to you? Ever watched an Eastwood film and gone "well, isn't that a cool job? It'd be interesting to try that out for awhile?

I wouldn't want to be a cop, or a reporter, or even "sex investigator" although that one sounds interesting... (he's a homicide detective, AKA!  ;) ) but I did some DJ-ing in college, but I never wanted to make a career of it, and I used to be very interested in photography.  So if anything, I'd take Robert Kincaid's job.  What do you think?  I took these over 10 years ago:

(http://home.swfla.rr.com/mattreigns/pic1.jpg) (http://home.swfla.rr.com/mattreigns/pic2.jpg)

(http://home.swfla.rr.com/mattreigns/pic3.jpg) (http://home.swfla.rr.com/mattreigns/pic4.jpg)

(http://home.swfla.rr.com/mattreigns/pic5.jpg) (http://home.swfla.rr.com/mattreigns/pic6.jpg)

Didn't think I could make a living doing that, but it was fun.  ;D
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: Matt on January 17, 2003, 09:53:01 PM
Tagging........

Speedzoo An easy one for you this time.  What's your favorite Eastwood movie, and why?

KC  You're in a restaurant having dinner with Clint (I thought I'd jump on the bandwagon!  ;D ) and he starts discussing with you a project that he's considering.  You love everything about it until you hear that he's thinking of casting Angelina Jolie as his love interest in the film, and there's a brief sex scene.  He wants to know what you think of that choice.   What would you tell him?

Lilly Have you seen an Eastwood film yet that you didn't really enjoy?  If so, which one?
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: mgk on January 17, 2003, 10:27:43 PM
 :)
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mgk: if you could have one animal from any of Clint's movies as a pet, which one would you take? (It would be young and healthy and have all its shots, of course ... and be housebroken.  )

Sorry, I missed this one last night, KC.  I can think of a lot of "pets" in Clint's movies that I really wouldn't want as my own...such as all those wild animals in White Hunter, Black Heart, Clyde in the "Which Way" movies, "Meathead" in Sudden Impact, and the goats in Pale Rider.  But, I did really like the dog in The Bridges of Madison County so I think I would choose that one.  Who could resist that big lug jumping up in your lap? ::)

I'll be back tomorrow to tag a couple of people.

mgk
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: Matt on January 17, 2003, 10:31:43 PM
:) Sorry, I missed this one last night, KC.  I can think of a lot of "pets" in Clint's movies that I really wouldn't want as my own... "Meathead" in Sudden Impact....

I always wanted a bulldog like Meathead.  Cool dog.  8)

Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: AKA23 on January 18, 2003, 12:00:21 AM
I wouldn't want to be a cop, or a reporter, or even "sex investigator" although that one sounds interesting... (he's a homicide detective, AKA!  ;) )

HEHE...Matt, I think he IS a sexual crimes investigator! I do agree that "sex investigator" sounds a little strange, and when I read your response to it, it gave me a little laugh, but Wes Block does specialize (at least I thought so) in the investigation of sex crimes and the like. I didn't think he was just your run of the mill (if there is such a thing) homicide investigator, which is why I offset it with the  colorful "sex investigator." ;)

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Post by: AKA23 on January 18, 2003, 12:01:46 AM

I did some DJ-ing in college, but I never wanted to make a career of it, and I used to be very interested in photography.  So if anything, I'd take Robert Kincaid's job.  What do you think?  I took these over 10 years ago:

(http://home.swfla.rr.com/mattreigns/pic1.jpg) (http://home.swfla.rr.com/mattreigns/pic2.jpg)

(http://home.swfla.rr.com/mattreigns/pic3.jpg) (http://home.swfla.rr.com/mattreigns/pic4.jpg)

(http://home.swfla.rr.com/mattreigns/pic5.jpg) (http://home.swfla.rr.com/mattreigns/pic6.jpg)

Didn't think I could make a living doing that, but it was fun.  ;D


What do I think? I think those are QUITE good, Matt! I'm no photographer, but those beat any picture I've ever taken! I took a black and white photography class in high school, and I must say that I don't think I had a lot of talent in that area. Maybe if I dedicated some time and did some more practice, but not now, and I think those pictures are really good.
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: AKA23 on January 18, 2003, 12:05:19 AM
KC  

You're in a restaurant having dinner with Clint (I thought I'd jump on the bandwagon!  ;D ) and he starts discussing with you a project that he's considering.  You love everything about it until you hear that he's thinking of casting Angelina Jolie as his love interest in the film, and there's a brief sex scene.  He wants to know what you think of that choice.   What would you tell him?

What? Hey Matt! What's KC got against Angelina Jolie? She doesn't like Angelina Jolie either? HEHE...or is it just that you both don't want her being Clint's love interest in a film? On that point, I agree!
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: Matt on January 18, 2003, 12:14:46 AM
From the Tightrope press kit:

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Clint Eastwood stars as homicide detective Wes Block in "TIGHTROPE," a Warner Bros. presentation of a Malpaso production also starring Genevieve Bujold....

I know you don't own this one, AKA... so I guess your memory of it is just a little rusty.  He's investigating murders, not sex crimes... they just happen to be sex-related murders in this movie. :)

Here's another excerpt:

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"Tightrope" is a Warner Bros. release starring Clint Eastwood as homicide detective Wes Block, a career policeman for the New Orleans police department investigating a series of sex murders in the famed French Quarter.

Thanks for the compliment on my pictures.   :D
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: Brendan on January 18, 2003, 12:18:53 AM
That beach picture is quite magnificent Matt.
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: Matt on January 18, 2003, 12:19:21 AM
What? Hey Matt! What's KC got against Angelina Jolie? She doesn't like Angelina Jolie either? HEHE...or is it just that you both don't want her being Clint's love interest in a film? On that point, I agree!

I love Angelina Jolie... I think she's one of the sexiest and most beautiful actresses who's working today.  However... I do NOT want to see her as Clint's love interest, and I'm guessing KC would agree with that. ;)
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: AKA23 on January 18, 2003, 01:15:43 AM
I love Angelina Jolie... I think she's one of the sexiest and most beautiful actresses who's working today.  However... I do NOT want to see her as Clint's love interest, and I'm guessing KC would agree with that. ;)

I think ANYONE would agree with that Matt ;)Forget all that! I think she actually has a great deal of talent as well!! She needs to start choosing better roles, but I've said that before!  ;) I'm glad to see you're on board with me on this one Matt  ;D
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: mgk on January 18, 2003, 10:06:14 AM
 :)  Here are the two tags I owe:

Conan:  At what point in Blood Work did you figure out who the killer was?  Was it before or after the young boy figured out the clue with the numbers?

Matt: What do you think is the sexiest line said in the movie The Bridges of Madison County?

mgk
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: Conan on January 18, 2003, 12:35:43 PM
:)  Here are the two tags I owe:

Conan:  At what point in Blood Work did you figure out who the killer was?  Was it before or after the young boy figured out the clue with the numbers?

  Honestly, I don't remember the exact point in the movie...But I did figure it out early, before the clue.  I knew because Daniels is the second biggest name in the movie and he rarely (if ever) has played a "bad guy", so the audience wouldn't be expecting it.  Also, his role up until its officially obvious that he's the killer could have been played by anyone in my opinion, so why would they have casted Daniels unless there is something else to his character?

Matt Have you ever had a bad experience watching a Clint movie?  Something outside of the movie (an annoying date, bad movie crowd, power outage, etc..).

Christopher Clint asks you,  "Which one movie of mine that isn't already released on DVD, should be released on DVD?"  Whats your response?
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: william on January 18, 2003, 07:40:44 PM
Doug asks:

William
What do you think is the most surreal moment out of all of Clint's films?
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Surreal means odd, strange, bizarre. :o

Let me just say that I felt driving a big bus through the streets of Phoenix, getting shot up like it was, was truely a surreal moment :-\

nightwing:
Since you enjoy racing, fast cars, fast women ;D, what is your favorite saloon girl or whore in the Eastwood movies?

aline:
What is your favorite Eastwood movie and why? ;)
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: Matt on January 18, 2003, 08:27:30 PM
:)  Here are the two tags I owe:


Matt: What do you think is the sexiest line said in the movie The Bridges of Madison County?

mgk

That's easy, mgk.  Without a doubt, it's "Hi!  I made some brown betty!"

That Madge, woooh, what a luscious babe.  Every word out of her mouth is poetry.  ;D



Matt Have you ever had a bad experience watching a Clint movie?  Something outside of the movie (an annoying date, bad movie crowd, power outage, etc..).

Other than my girlfriend falling asleep during Pale Rider (which wasn't actually bad at all) the only other thing that comes to mind was when my dog was gagging on a rawhide strip while I was watching some Eastwood film.  It was stuck down her throat, and I had to get a good grip on it to pull it out.  Things don't get much more exciting than that around here.   :-\  ::)


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Post by: mgk on January 18, 2003, 08:38:00 PM
 :(  I think you're dodging the question, Matt, dear... surely you can do better than that! ::)

mgk
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: Matt on January 18, 2003, 08:43:19 PM
Sorry, M.

As I explained off the board just now, I don't find any lines in Bridges sexy, and I don't find the film to be sexy at all.  I think it's very romantic, many of the lines are poetic, it's sad and heartbreaking, but to me... it's not sexy.
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: Brendan on January 18, 2003, 10:57:24 PM
nightwing:
Since you enjoy racing, fast cars, fast women ;D, what is your favorite saloon girl or whore in the Eastwood movies?

Well I'll try this again since my post was mysteriously deleted. Maybe becuase I said wh*re? But then if thats the reason why didnt Will's post get deleted?

Anyway, I dont like fast women.

Too answer your question, I cant pick one Will. Sorry, but I cant think of any. ;)

KC - If Eastwood approached you to make a quirky buddy comedy, who would you cast as the buddy?

Matt - If Eastwood approached you to make a quirky buddy comedy, what would the idea be?
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: Matt on January 18, 2003, 11:27:43 PM

Matt - If Eastwood approached you to make a quirky buddy comedy, what would the idea be?

That's strange that your original post was deleted... maybe a fluke.  Neither mgk nor I deleted it.

As for your question... have you ever seen the Mark McGwire commercial, where you get to be his best friend for a day?  Well, that would be my idea of a "quirky buddy film" with Clint.  Let me be his best friend for a day, and someone can film it.   ;D  That would be a blast for me!  ;D :D ;D :D

I owe a few tags... coming up!
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: Conan on January 19, 2003, 12:07:11 AM
As for your question... have you ever seen the Mark McGwire commercial, where you get to be his best friend for a day?

  The first time I saw the "best friend for a day" one with John Elway where they ride that two person bike, I was in tears laughing.  That commercial is hilarious.
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: KC on January 19, 2003, 12:17:42 AM
I'm FIVE TAGS behind ...  :o First, here are four tags from Friday:


1.  
KC:If you were to define Clint with only one word, which it would be?

Aline, at first I thought this was impossible to answer. But then, I found this quote when I was posting in another thread (http://www.clinteastwood.org/forums/index.php?board=2;action=display;threadid=302):

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Clint Eastwood Honored With 2002 Screen Actors Guild Life Achievement Award
39th Annual Accolade To Be Presented During the 9th Annual Screen Actors Guild  

Los Angeles – Consummate actor, director, and producer Clint Eastwood has been named the 39th recipient of Screen Actors Guild’s most prestigious honor—the Life Achievement Award for career achievement and humanitarian accomplishment, presented annually to an actor who fosters the highest ideals of the profession. The 2002 Life Achievement Award will be presented to Mr. Eastwood at the “9th Annual Screen Actors Guild Awards®” which will premiere on Turner Network Television (TNT) on Sunday March 9, 2003 at 8 p.m. ET/PT, 7 p.m. Central and 6 p.m. MT.

I think the one word I would pick to define Clint is there ... "consummate."

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con·sum·mate
adj.
1. Complete or perfect in every respect: consummate happiness. See Synonyms at perfect.

2. Supremely accomplished or skilled: "Sargent was now a consummate master of brushwork" (Roberta Smith).

(The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition. Copyright © 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company.)


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KC : If you can, please give us a description of your favorite scene in all of Eastwood? Is there a special scene that stands out to you above the rest, or that you favor, or anything of that nature? If so, please give a description and an explanation as to why that particular scene is like that for you? If this scene happens to be for Unforgiven , please describe that one, but as I know it's your favorite film in all of Eastwood, try to pick out another scene from a different Eastwood film as well!  ;D

Sorry, AKA, but I'm going to stick to Unforgiven ... and I'm not going to say the scene I'm going to describe is my "favorite in all of Eastwood," because it's too hard to pick out just one. But this scene, brief as it is, says so much in the space of ten seconds, in just three shots, and without using any words at all, that it can stand for a whole lot of what I like best about Eastwood's films. It goes like this:

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The sod hut. Interior, day.

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Close shot: Munny in left profile at the right side of the screen, shirtless and holding a small mirror in his left hand, a razor in his right. On the left is the hut's west window with its crossbars, casting a silvery light on the front of his face. Munny is looking down at the mirror, shaving off his mustache. Birdsong. He lowers the razor and looks up and out the window. His upper lip is still drawn taut in anticipation of the razor's further strokes. Music begins: "Claudia's theme, " on a solo guitar with a minimal orchestral accompaniment.

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Long shot: Munny's POV. Through the slightly distorting windowpanes, the tree by Claudia's grave, boulders and the grave marker; blue sky and green-brown prairie. The tree's branches move in the wind. More birdsong. The mirror Munny holds is in the right foreground, just right of the window.

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Close shot, as before: Munny lowers the razor and the mirror out of the frame as he straightens up, pressing his lips together.
As he almost ritualistically prepares to embark on the killing expedition, Munny is transforming himself back into the semblance of the killer he once was. He's stripped off his muddy, pig farmer clothes and now he's ridding himself of the mustache that disguised his face. As he does so, he hears a bird singing in the only tree around his miserable farmstead: the tree he buried Claudia beside. As he looks up and out the window, he's reminded of his love, his loss and his grief, but also that he is about to break a promise he thought nothing could ever move him to break. Those boulders on her grave ... he put them there so it would be big and important, so he would always remember how much her love meant to him. But didn't he also put him there to keep her right where she was ... underground ... in case, just in case, he heard the call to return to his old, pre-Claudia life ... as he does now?


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Ok  ;), I’ll just ask you a question about Clint and baseball.

Clint would like to direct a movie about baseball. He asks for your advice, is there any behind the scenes situation in baseball that you think could turn into a great movie? Or even the professional life of a baseball player that you consider remarkable and would advice Clint to make a movie about?
Well, that's better. As it happens, I've had an idea about this for a long time ... Clint would be the ideal person to direct a baseball Western. I think a fascinating film could come out of this. We know that baseball's widespread popularity began in the latter half of the 19th century ... we know there were professional teams all over the country, including out West ... so why not a return to the genre Clint is best-loved for, in a film that would also be about the sport I love best?

Big Whiskey, for instance, would seem to have all the elements needed to figure as the home team's town in such a film ... a bunch of strong men who look like they'd be happy hitting a ball with a stick, and a nearby railway to ferry them to places similarly equipped. So, here's another answer to Matt's question of what happened in Big Whiskey after the end of Unforgiven: The surviving posse members formed a baseball team (The Big Whiskey Reptiles might be an appropriate moniker). They tore down Little Bill's abortive house and built a riverside stadium ... Alice and the girls teamed up and took over the concessions operation ... the local tailor was happy to turn out the uniforms, and the Chinese laundryman was delirious at the chance to launder 'em all after every game.


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Tagging........
 
KC  You're in a restaurant having dinner with Clint (I thought I'd jump on the bandwagon!  ;D ) and he starts discussing with you a project that he's considering.  You love everything about it until you hear that he's thinking of casting Angelina Jolie as his love interest in the film, and there's a brief sex scene.  He wants to know what you think of that choice.   What would you tell him?
Well, that's the easiest one ... I'd just tell him, "Clint, don't do it. Cast me instead. I'm a much more credible love interest for you, at your age!" ;)


And one from Saturday  ... 5.
KC - If Eastwood approached you to make a quirky buddy comedy, who would you cast as the buddy?

Matt - If Eastwood approached you to make a quirky buddy comedy, what would the idea be?
Well now, that's easy too, now that Matt's answered his part of it ... I'd cast Matt as the buddy! 8)


OK, I owe five tags from Friday and two from Saturday.  :o It'll take me a while to catch up with them. While I'm thinking ... is there anyone out there who's thinking "Me! Tag me!"?  :D  

KC
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: Matt on January 19, 2003, 12:18:35 AM
I don't think mgk's happy with the answer I gave for the BOMC tag, so I won't tag anyone for that.  That leaves me with three tags...

Baggie(b):   You're having dinner with a friend at the Mission Ranch, and you're discussing John Denver's music.  At some point during the conversation, Clint happens to sit close enough to overhear part of your discussion.  He explains that he's working on a film that would have a feel similar to Bronco Billy and he was looking for just the right song for a slow dance between him and his leading lady.   Clint asks if there's a John Denver song that you would recommend for a scene like that.  Assuming that you're not in a state of shock, and are capable of answering him ;) what song would you recommend?

Xichado:  I know this question gets around, I already asked Stranger and Philo, but now it's your turn!  If you won a lottery that Eastwood was involved in to raise money for his favorite charity, and the prize was that you could either take $1 million cash, free and clear after taxes, or work as Assistant Director on Clint's next film (no pay involved) which would you choose?

Vik:    If you could go back in time to play the role of any character in an Eastwood film, which would you choose?
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: Matt on January 19, 2003, 05:34:53 PM
This may just be the slowest day this board has had since I've been around.   If anyone has any tagging to do, do it and see if we can get this board moving along a little bit.
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: KC on January 19, 2003, 06:02:19 PM
I owe seven tags!  :o Let me get a couple in, anyway.

Can't resist this one ...

[td]mgk:  [/td] [td]What do YOU think is the sexiest line said in The Bridges of Madison County?[/td][/table]

Or this one ...

[td]Matt:  [/td] [td]We didn't get an answer from nightwing, so I'm going to repeat a question of William's to you. What is your favorite saloon girl or whore in the Eastwood movies?[/td][/table]

[td]Conan:  [/td][td] What do you think is Clint's greatest athletic feat in any of his movies? You can take into account his age at the time.[/td][/table]

[td]Agent: [/td] [td]You can go back in time and be an extra in any one Eastwood movie. Your wardrobe will be supplied, and you may keep it afterwards. With that in mind, which film do you pick?[/td][/table]

[td]D'Ambrosia:  [/td] [td]Which female character in an Eastwood movie would you most like to take out on a date?[/td][/table]

That's five ... I'll be back with a couple more later on.


Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: Matt on January 19, 2003, 06:34:40 PM

[td]Matt:  [/td] [td]We didn't get an answer from nightwing, so I'm going to repeat a question of William's to you. What is your favorite saloon girl or whore in the Eastwood movies?[/td][/table]


Where do I begin?  :D

Okay, my favorite's probably that fiery redhead in Hang 'em High.  Love that hair...  ;D

(http://home.swfla.rr.com/mattreigns/hangemjen.jpg)

Arlene Golonka in the role of Jennifer.   :-*

Be right back with a couple tags...
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: Matt on January 19, 2003, 07:01:41 PM
I'm borrowing this question that was asked of Lilly a while back...

Palm:  If you could visit any location from an Eastwood film, which would you choose?

Stranger:   What's your favorite song or composition from any Eastwood film?
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: Conan on January 19, 2003, 07:02:58 PM
[td]Conan:  [/td][td] What do you think is Clint's greatest athletic feat in any of his movies? You can take into account his age at the time.[/td][/table]

   This is a tough one since he really hasn't done a "sports" flick per se...The two that stand out for me are some of the climbing scenes in "The Eiger Sanction" and the barenuckle boxing in the "Any Which Way" movies.
   I would go with the bareknuckle boxing, because consider that he was pushing fifty when he made those movies.  Not just the boxing and stunts, but his physique alone in those movies is an athletic feat.

  I'll post two tags in a bit.
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: mgk on January 19, 2003, 07:18:53 PM
 :)
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mgk:   What do YOU think is the sexiest line said in The Bridges of Madison County?


Thanks, KC!  While agreeing with this that Matt said:
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I think it's very romantic, many of the lines are poetic, it's sad and heartbreaking,...
I disagree when he says, "... it's not sexy."  There are a few moments and a few lines that are, to me, sexy.  My favorite line is during the dance sequence in Francesca's kitchen and Robert looks down at her and says:  
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If you want me to stop, tell me now.

I will post two tags later.

mgk
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: Matt on January 19, 2003, 07:26:26 PM
"Sexy" is in the eye of the beholder.  That line didn't do anything for me.  ;)
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: KC on January 19, 2003, 07:31:13 PM
I have the feeling the perception of what is "sexy" in this particular film may be gender-related ...  ::)  :-*
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: Matt on January 19, 2003, 07:39:43 PM
I have the feeling the perception of what is "sexy" in this particular film may be gender-related ...

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Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: mgk on January 19, 2003, 07:57:49 PM
 :)  Here are the two tags I owe:

Nightwing: What is your favorite scene from Firefox?


Agent: Who are your three favorite co-stars in an Eastwood movie...male or female?

mgk
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: Matt on January 19, 2003, 08:01:24 PM
After this... mgk's never gonna tag me again.   :-[  :'(  ;)
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: Conan on January 19, 2003, 08:05:49 PM
  I'm starting to run out of ideas for questions.

Daisy: Eastwood is scouting locations for his next project in England and wants you to help, where you do take him?  Its a golf movie.
 
KC: If you watched your least favorite Eastwood movie with Clint, would you critique it to death or go easy on him?
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: Brendan on January 19, 2003, 08:15:00 PM
Nightwing: What is your favorite scene from Firefox?

Oh geeze :-[... thats one movie that I havent seen in a very long long long time. I dont know, I really dont. I'd have to see it again. I cant remember anything from it.

I know I've seen it, but I cant remember it.

Sorry MGK. :-\

KC - Ok, OTHER THEN MATT, if Eastwood approached you to come up with a quirky buddy comedy, who would you cast as the buddy?

William - If Clint were to make a movie about football, which team should he work for?
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: mgk on January 19, 2003, 08:28:06 PM
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After this... mgk's never gonna tag me again.


 >:( >:( You've got that right, Matt!!!  ;D But, in case you're interested...which I'm sure you're NOT... I have heard two different people say that and I thought it was sexy both times.  :P

mgk
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: Matt on January 19, 2003, 09:29:04 PM
Nightwing, you didn't answer the question about Firefox, so you can't tag for that.  As it says in the rules:

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If they choose to answer the question, they will then be able to "tag" two more members and come up with questions for them to answer.
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If you think harder about Firefox and come up with a scene in it that you liked a lot, then post the answer and then you can tag.   I didn't say anything the first time you didn't answer a question but tagged anyway (William's question about the saloon girls) but we can't just take an "I don't know" for an answer, not when there's some members here knocking themselves out to answer really tough questions so that they can participate and tag.

Danke!  ;D
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: Brendan on January 19, 2003, 09:37:38 PM
No problem Matt.

But I have been thinking hard of Firefox since reading the question.

I kinda like the opening, when Eastwood is running and we see the helicopter approaching him. You'd firgure there would be the cliched helicopter lands and  he stops running and talks to the generals who are re-activitaing him, but he goes nuts and was ready to kill those men that showed up.

Its the first time, that I can remember, that we get to see an insane Eastwood. I reckon I aint never seen him act like that.

I hope Im making sense, like I said, I havent seen that movie in a very long, long, long time. Maybe I'll buy it next on DVD.

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KC - Ok, OTHER THEN MATT, if Eastwood approached you to come up with a quirky buddy comedy, who would you cast as the buddy?

William - If Clint were to make a movie about football, which team should he work for?
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: KC on January 19, 2003, 10:53:41 PM
Before I answer to my two new tags, let me post the last two I owe from Friday and Saturday.

[td]Philo:  [/td][td] If you could have one authentic prop from one Eastwood movie to add to your collection (other than a weapon) ... which would you choose?[/td][/table]

[td]Holden:  [/td] [td]Given the competition in a particular year, are there any Eastwood films besides Unforgiven you think should have won the Best Picture Oscar, or at least have received a nomination? (We've discussed this on the old board, but it was a while back.)[/td][/table]

Now my two new tags ...  :D


KC: If you watched your least favorite Eastwood movie with Clint, would you critique it to death or go easy on him?
I think I'd go easy on him. After all, much of the stuff I don't like about my least favorite movies (which one would get that title might vary depending on my mood) is beneath criticism ... I wouldn't be likely to tell him, "Clint ... whatEVER possessed you to think that working with an orangutan could result in an artistically satisfying cinematic creation?" or "Clint ... WHY on earth did you think Raul Julia could be credible as a German car thief?" Nah, I'd just enjoy the enjoyable parts of these films (I know from experience I'd laugh out loud at parts of them), and pass over the other parts in silence ... maybe with an ever so slight rolling of my eyes ...  ::) ;)


KC - Ok, OTHER THEN MATT, if Eastwood approached you to come up with a quirky buddy comedy, who would you cast as the buddy?

Well ... myself, of course! That would be a REALLY quirky buddy comedy!

And if I couldn't have the part ... I've sometimes wondered what it would be like if Eastwood and Woody Allen made a movie together. Just the contrast in their appearances would be comical, to say nothing of their personalities! But, they both are successful, prolific actor-directors who are respected as film artists ... especially in Europe. Woody can write the script, Clint can direct, and they'll co-star, maybe as a couple of hapless jazz musicians (piano and clarinet) on the lam from a bunch of mobsters ... they could join an all-girls band, and ... no, that's been done. Oh well, Woody and Clint would think of something!  ;)


I now owe three new tags! Be back with those in a little while.
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: Xichado on January 19, 2003, 10:55:08 PM
Xichado:  I know this question gets around, I already asked Stranger and Philo, but now it's your turn!  If you won a lottery that Eastwood was involved in to raise money for his favorite charity, and the prize was that you could either take $1 million cash, free and clear after taxes, or work as Assistant Director on Clint's next film (no pay involved) which would you choose?
Matt, the things I could do with a $1 million… uhm! Top of my list: Buy a very isolated island, kidnap Kim Basinger and drag her into it. Then, I would be a very happy man (sight!)… ;D

Waking up from my dreams… $1 million bucks or working with Clint (no pay involved, are meals included?). Since I don’t really care about the money I would go with working with Clint.

Only because it would be the chance of a lifetime, it would be an experience to remember and cherish for the rest of my life. I would have the chance to work closely to someone I admire and maybe I could learn something about movie-making and from those teachings I could make my own movies and earn my own $1 million or 2 or 3… (I think I’m dreaming again, is Kim Basinger around? Hope so, she would be the heroine of all my movies  ;), sight).


Xichado:What do you think if we, board fans,arranged a real meeting,in person and did a nice party to pay a homage to Clint when he turn 73 Clint years old?Do you think he would appear there?   ;D
Aline, I’m glad to see you back. :)

In regard to your question. It’s difficult to say, I guess if we have the CEWB Convention/Meeting at a location where Clint would be near by, he might, he’s known to be kind to his fans… since the man lives in Carmel, we all could gather for the 1st CEWB Convention over there, around his birthday, and send him an invitation asking if he wouldn’t mind to stop by for a half hour or so, shake a couple of hands, kiss a few girls ;), be the center of our attention, answer a few questions…  8)

Since I cannot answer the question for Clint, all I can say is: We can always send the invitation and hope for the best. ;)
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: Xichado on January 19, 2003, 10:58:52 PM
My tags:

Matt: Say, Clint Eastwood decided to make one final movie (as director and as an actor), he’s split between making one more Man-With-No-Name spaghetti western and one more Dirty Harry. Which one would you prefer to see?

MGK: I mentioned Zelda Fitzgerald before on this thread. She wrote the following sentence (one of my favourites by the way) about how she felt towards her husband (F. Scott Fitzgerald):
“There are all kinds of love in the world, but never the same love twice”.
If you were to include this sentence in the final scenes of BMC, would you give it to Robert Kincaid or Francesca Johnson?

Daisy: What world leader would you like Clint Eastwood to portrait in a movie and why? (Regardless of Clint’s age, I have a time machine you can borrow and place Clint in it and bring him back a few decades younger  :D).

Palm: What book would you like to see Clint Eastwood making an adaptation of? and why?
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: Matt on January 19, 2003, 11:29:14 PM

Matt: Say, Clint Eastwood decided to make one final movie (as director and as an actor), he’s split between making one more Man-With-No-Name spaghetti western and one more Dirty Harry. Which one would you prefer to see?

First of all, I want to say that those are some great questions you just asked, and I also really enjoyed your answer to mine.  I had originally asked Stranger and Philo the same question, however I offered them twice the amount of money, and they both took it.  I figured it might be a little more difficult to answer if I brought the payoff down to $1 mill.  

Now, to answer your question to me... it's easy.  I do NOT want to see Clint do another Dirty Harry.   I think he's entirely too old for it now, and since the films have started parodying themselves, I think another addition to this series would be even worse than The Dead Pool.  Even with a great script, I still don't think I'd want to see him do that.   On the other hand... I don't know that you can ever be too old for a part in a great western.  I don't think he could really play a character like Joe, Manco or Blondie now, yet I think he could do a role as an older, retired Joe, Manco or Blondie... it would be along the lines of Unforgiven... but of course, it would have to have something new to say if he was going to do it at all.

TAGGING.... DOUG

Out of all the GREAT lines spoken by Eastwood in his entire career, which is your absolute favorite?
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: KC on January 19, 2003, 11:30:49 PM
My three new tags ...

[td]Doug:  [/td] [td]A variant on the lottery question. You win a choice of $10,000, or the chance to see the rejected alternate ending to Unforgiven ... the homecoming scene. (Eastwood told David Breskin "I could show it to you and you'd be the only person in the world to see it.") Which would you pick?[/td][/table]

[td]AKA:  [/td] [td]You get a chance to visit an Eastwood film set for a whole day. The only condition would be that you may not say ONE SINGLE WORD while on the set, nor say anything to anyone about your visit afterwards, until the film is released. Would you accept?[/td][/table]


[td]Xichado:  [/td] [td]Are there any Portuguese or Brazilian actors (other than Sonia Braga) you'd like to see work with Clint?[/td][/table]
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: AKA23 on January 20, 2003, 12:23:33 AM

[td]AKA:  [/td] [td]You get a chance to visit an Eastwood film set for a whole day. The only condition would be that you may not say ONE SINGLE WORD while on the set, nor say anything to anyone about your visit afterwards, until the film is released. Would you accept?[/td][/table]

I'm sure that you thought that this would be a difficult one for me, but it isn't. This is really rather simple. Of course, I'd accept the invitation to visit the set of an Eastwood film, regardless of whether or not I got to talk to anyone about it or during the experience. You'd be an idiot not to. Even if you can't discuss it, just being there in and of itself is a once in a lifetime experience, and I'd be honored to be given the chance to be on an Eastwood set. I'll go ahead and assume that he's acting in this one. Who wouldn't want to see Eastwood acting and directing a film!!!? What an experience that would be!

In reality, it's not all that difficult for me to sit still and not say anything. There are times when I do talk a lot and when I have a lot to say, but when I was in England for example I'd be just sitting there on the bed or in a chair and I wouldn't say anything. I'd just be contemplating all of these different things to the point that it would upset or unnerve people. I'd be sitting there, and my cousin would get a bit uneasy that I wasn't saying anything, and that I was just there while she was going on about her business, and I wasn't talking, or saying anything at all!! So, it IS entirely possible for me, but on an Eastwood set, it would be difficult.
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: AKA23 on January 20, 2003, 12:46:29 AM
I owe two questions. I'll try to get to posting sometime tomorrow if I can. :) I'm a bit too tired now.
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: Aline on January 20, 2003, 06:47:13 AM
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aline:
What is your favorite Eastwood movie and why?


William,I had answered this question already.I know is hard don't ask similar questions.I re-write the answer below.If you want you may ask me another question ;)

My favorite Clint movie is Coogan's Bluff.It was the first movie I watch and I really liked the character.From 90's films, is White Hunter Black Heart.I like Clint as a controvert man,different most of their characteres.

Conan: In your opinion,which some present time actor come close to Clint's style most?





Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: mgk on January 20, 2003, 09:33:26 AM
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MGK: I mentioned Zelda Fitzgerald before on this thread. She wrote the following sentence (one of my favourites by the way) about how she felt towards her husband (F. Scott Fitzgerald):
“There are all kinds of love in the world, but never the same love twice”.If you were to include this sentence in the final scenes of BMC, would you give it to Robert Kincaid or Francesca Johnson?

Xichado, this is a really good question, especially since Francesca loves two different men in two entirely different ways.  Her love for Richard is a stable love for a kind man "who never hurt anyone" and who is the father of her two children.   She is "in love" with Robert but knows that, even though it is an exciting love and one that she longs to have, she knows that it is potentially dangerous and could ruin the lives of three of the most important people in her life.

If I were to add that line to The Bridges of Madison County , I would give it to Robert and I think I would put it toward the end of the dining room scene where Francesca is trying to explain to Robert why she can't go with him.  As Robert is walking away from her (and, just before his very quotable line), I would have Robert say the following:

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There are all kinds of love in this world, but never the same love twice.
Then, Robert walks farther away, turns and says:

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I'll only say this once.  I've...I've never said it before.  But this kind of certainty comes but once in a lifetime.

Will be back in a minute with my two tags.

mgk
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Post by: Daisy Abigael on January 20, 2003, 10:11:33 AM
G...G...Gosh!  I owe quite a few answers! :o :-[ I have been a bit under the weather recently.  Here goes:

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(From Baggie) You have been assigned to teach a class (young adults) in pop culture. Clint is, of course, your subject, but what character would you choose to represent his work?

There is only one character it could be, Baggie! :)

The Man With No Name is the archetypal Eastwood hero (or anti-hero).  All the others follow on from him – either variations on or reactions against.

I’d also point out how important the characterization was in terms of the history of the entire action genre.  All those Arnie, Willis, Segal etc action men are walking in his shoes.

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(From KC)  If you could journey back to 1968 and get yourself cast in one of the female roles in Where Eagles Dare, would you rather be Mary or Heidi? Or would you write yourself a third part ... one where you might have a little more ... interaction with Lt. Schaffer?


Nice one, KC!  ;D Yeah, Dirty Burtie got most of the non-gun-related action in that one, huh?  I think I’d have been a new character:  The hard-as-nails, no-nonsense (but suspiciously feminine! ;)) demolitions expert they had to team up with in Germany.  In a natty and extremely figure hugging Nazi uniform, I’d impress Schaffer with my cool off-hand attitude to killing and my abilities under fire.  When he has to push me to one side to save me from a grenade, my hair just comes kinda undone from inside my beret and cascades down over my shoulders.

“You’re a girl!”  He growls.

“So?”  Says I – all challenging like!  And explain how my brother – who would have been on the mission -  got killed and lucky for them he taught me all he knew and now I’m out for revenge.  “We’ve got a job to do Mister Cowboy!”

He squints and looks resigned.

But after the mission – on the floor of the plane crossing the Alpine scenery - I get him to tame me like I’m some sort of buckin’ bronco!  We have to be ever so frustratingly quiet, though.  Lest we get disapproving looks from all those assembled British character actors! :D :o


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(From Palm) Seems you have been doing your share of fondling the Kincaid-truck. If you could drive away with it and drive right into an Estwood-scene, which one would you choose?  


I really don’t understand this question.  If I ignore the stuff about the truck – it’s not a fetish I share with you, Palm, old bean!  ;D– and just take it as “which scene would you most like to share with Clint?”  Then the answer is the final showdown in The Good The Bad and The Ugly.  I’d like to hide behind that tree and watch him finish off Van Cleef and truss up Tuco, then I’d jump up onto the back of his horse behind him and ride off into the sun. :D

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(From Conan) Eastwood is scouting locations for his next project in England and wants you to help, where you do take him?  Its a golf movie.

Golf movie?  Ye gods and catfish!  :o No!  I’d tell him not to make a golf movie – how much more boring could you get?  ??? Stamp collecting?  Toe-nail cutting perhaps? ;D

If it were a location for a movie in England – as opposed to the UK, I assume you don’t lump them all together – I think a fantastic setting would be Durham Cathedral.  Spectacular and atmospheric – and the movie could be about an American psycho who wipes out every last member of the Cathedral choir. ;)

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(From Xichado) What world leader would you like Clint Eastwood to portrait in a movie and why? (Regardless of Clint’s age, I have a time machine you can borrow and place Clint in it and bring him back a few decades younger.

Great question X! :)  But very hard... :-[

Hmm.  I don’t see Clint as any world leader I can think of.  Any age, any time, any country.  Too much the rugged individual to be a bloody politician.   Too American to play obvious European heroes like Alexander or Wellington.  All your presidents are too shady like Nixon or dorky like Carter.

I guess as an older man – in his WHBH John Huston mode he could have a stab at Teddy Roosevelt.  In fact as a younger guy he could have essayed that fascinating life from youth to old age.  I don’t know if we would have liked him very much though.

I’d be interested in hearing other people’s opinions on this one. ???
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Post by: mgk on January 20, 2003, 10:16:24 AM
 :) KC: If you were to take a driving tour of the United States to see some of the filming sites of Eastwood movies, which three would be at the top of your list to include?  And, why?

Christopher:  According to an article entitled Mountain Climbing with Clint Eastwood in a magazine called Saga, published in June, 1975, Eastwood did all of the mountain climbing himself in the movie The Eiger Sanction.

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No stunt men or stand-ins for Clint Eastwood.  In his latest film, The Eiger Sanction , Clint did all the scaling himself...facing raging blizzards, rock slides, crumbling limestone, and sheer vertical walls...personally challenging the treacherous Eiger Mountain.

How important to the outcome of the movie do you feel this "hands-on" approach was?  And, why do you feel that way?

mgk
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Post by: philo on January 20, 2003, 12:05:19 PM

I'm still thinking about the commentary question

KC asked :

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Philo:   If you could have one authentic prop from one Eastwood movie to add to your collection (other than a weapon) ... which would you choose?

I always get these collector questions , I don't mind but they are not easy to answer .

It would be a hell of a thing to ship to England , but I always thought his truck in Every which way but loose was kind of cool . Goodness knows where it is now . They did once find Columbo's car I seem to remember .

Philo .
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Post by: philo on January 20, 2003, 12:16:03 PM

Matt also reversed my own question on me :

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Philo:  I'm going to answer this one of yours next, but I know you're the man that knows the trailers best, so I'd like to hear your answer to the same question:  Which Eastwood trailer has most made you think "wow!"

Well Matt the teaser for Blood work was pretty good and showed that someone had given thought to not show too much.
I also agree with you on Sudden Imapct
I am going to choose Escape From Alcatraz , which I know sucks because it was not included on the DVD . Some of the older board members may remember it . Last year I found a teaser which is also good.

If we all ever meet up anywhere in the future , I will bring any I can to the venue .

Philo .
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Post by: philo on January 20, 2003, 12:30:40 PM
A few tags :

Matt

You are putting together an all night 5 film Clint Eastwood show at a rented theatre . What films are on the bill ?


MGK

What part of Clint's career do you think is the best ?


KC

Which Eastwood film would you liked to have seen more times on the big screen and why?


AKA

Which of Brian De Palma's films could you see Clint most comfortable in ?


Sorry this is a bit late , but I thought Holden and Matt's choices of The Verdict and Hoosiers were excellent and well thought out .


Philo .
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Post by: AKA23 on January 20, 2003, 01:29:48 PM
Here's my two questions:

KC : Let's pretend for a moment that Clint Eastwood has come to you to provide him some advice on his recent court action against Patrick McGilligan. I know that you support the suit, but what would be your best argument to use in defense of Mr. Eastwood and against Mr. McGilligan? How would you approach that action to maximize the possibility of a victory for Mr. Eastwood.

Matt : You're Clint Eastwood's agent, or one of his close personal friends, and Clint comes to you for some career advice. He says ya know Matt, I've been a bit frustrated lately. I feel as if there isn't much for me to do in Hollywood as an actor, and that I'm getting tired of the same old thing. What am I doing wrong? What should I do for my next movie? People haven't seemed to really click with the movies that I've been doing lately, and although they've been pretty good efforts, they've kind of lacked that originality and that spark of some of the movies that I did earlier in my career, and I'd like to get back to that. What kinds of roles should I be looking for, and how can I get myself back on track?

HEHE..I know this is a tough one, but you can do it Matt! :)  
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Post by: AKA23 on January 20, 2003, 03:39:46 PM
Wow Philo, still working on that commentary question, eh? You're really taking this one seriously then! I expect nothing short of greatness from you then! :D


AKA

Which of Brian De Palma's films could you see Clint most comfortable in ?

Philo .

I had some help from the IMDB on this one, and sadly, I think I'm going to give a very poor answer to this question. The problem is that the only Brian De Palma film that I have seen all the way through is The Untouchables , which I thought was very good, and I could see Clint Eastwood in that kind of a film. I'm not sure if I'd want him in that particular one, but it's the only one that I've seen, and I can see him in that film. The Elliot Ness character is a complex character that has the same kind of courage, dedication, and fierce determination to try to do the right thing, and Clint would feel at home with that kind of character. Any of De Palma's films that are really worth seeing that I'm really missing out on?? Scarface , perhaps?  
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Post by: mgk on January 20, 2003, 03:57:01 PM
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MGK
What part of Clint's career do you think is the best ?

Wow, Philo!  What a difficult question!  The only way I know to approach this is to divide his career into decades.  I'm not going to dodge your question, but let me first say that some of his best films can be found in each decade...well, maybe not in the 1950s. :D

After we got hit over the head in the 1960s with the "Man With No Name" films and started paying attention to this man's career, many of the films that started making "Clint Eastwood" a household name came in the 1970s.   So, I guess my vote would have to go to that decade.  It's impossible to ignore the fact that Dirty Harry was made in that decade along with two other "Dirty Harry" movies.  And, his directorial debut  Play Misty For Me was released in 1971 and The Outlaw Josey Wales classic  in 1976.  Of course, we can't forget one of your favorites either... Every Which Way But Loose (1978). ;)  Another reason I would vote for the 1970s is because of the wide range of projects that he chose to do.

It would be interesting to know what decade other members would vote for when answering this question.

Tagging.....

D'Amb:  What do you think is the best scene in any Eastwood movie?

mgk
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Post by: Christopher on January 20, 2003, 04:17:43 PM
Conan asked:
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Christopher Clint asks you,  "Which one movie of mine that isn't already released on DVD, should be released on DVD?"  Whats your response?
Tightrope. You just can't beat Clint Eastwood playing a "sex investigator." ;) ;D But seriously, I've always liked the movie. I have it on VHS and I really look forward to when I can watch it in a nice widescreen transfer.

MGK asked:
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Christopher:   According to an article entitled Mountain Climbing with Clint Eastwood in a magazine called Saga, published in June, 1975, Eastwood did all of the mountain climbing himself in the movie The Eiger Sanction.


Quote:No stunt men or stand-ins for Clint Eastwood.  In his latest film, The Eiger Sanction , Clint did all the scaling himself...facing raging blizzards, rock slides, crumbling limestone, and sheer vertical walls...personally challenging the treacherous Eiger Mountain.

How important to the outcome of the movie do you feel this "hands-on" approach was?  And, why do you feel that way?
I think it's immpressive that Eastwood did all his stunts for the movie. I know I couldn't have done it, I'm nervous about climbing high on ladders. :D I guess for the movie, no one can look at it and say, "Well, you can tell he wasn't in that shot," since, many times you can tell if stunt doubles were used.

I know I owe a bunch of tags, and I'll try to get to a couple anyways. If I tried thinking too hard right now, I'm afraid my head would burst  :o(I've just spent over two hours staring at the same homework assignment).
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Post by: AKA23 on January 20, 2003, 04:48:31 PM

Tightrope. You just can't beat Clint Eastwood playing a "sex investigator." ;) ;D ).

OKAY guys, I already said how I was wrong about that! He was a "homicide" detective. Sex investigator! HAHA...that's enough making fun of me now Christopher! You don't want me to get upset, now do you? ;)
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Post by: Matt on January 20, 2003, 05:08:15 PM

Matt

You are putting together an all night 5 film Clint Eastwood show at a rented theatre . What films are on the bill ?

Assuming we have the films again after throwing them off the island...

Okay, this is a fun question.  Reminds me of what we were thinking of doing with our "Eastwood Convention 2003" thread.  I'll answer this one was if I was going to choose 5 films for our web family and friends to watch at that convention...

First film... The Good, The Bad and The Ugly.  Those who think it's too long and don't want to sit through it all can come a little late to the festival.  HOWEVER, I think we have to make AGENT come on time... so he can experience the greatness that is Leone... as big and as loud as we can get it!  *whistle* wah wah wah!!![/i]

There'd be a little break after GBU, we could all go out and have a few drinks, get something to eat... then get back to the theater in time for....

Dirty Harry and The Outlaw Josey Wales.  What a double bill.. the two best films of the best decade of Eastwood back to back.  

Another break...  where we could stretch our legs and talk about the movies, as if we haven't talked about them enough already. :)

Then we'd need to get back to the theater for a little lighter Eastwood fare...

Bronco Billy, just cause I like it.  ;D

And the finale would have to be Unforgiven.  

I wish I could fit in White Hunter, Black Heart, I'd love to see that on the big screen.   And I'd like to show Bridges for the ladies of the forum, who knows... we might get lucky if we let them see that ;)   ;D

But it's too hard to cut out one of those other five.  
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Post by: Matt on January 20, 2003, 05:31:17 PM
Here's my two questions:

Matt : You're Clint Eastwood's agent, or one of his close personal friends, and Clint comes to you for some career advice. He says ya know Matt, I've been a bit frustrated lately. I feel as if there isn't much for me to do in Hollywood as an actor, and that I'm getting tired of the same old thing. What am I doing wrong? What should I do for my next movie? People haven't seemed to really click with the movies that I've been doing lately, and although they've been pretty good efforts, they've kind of lacked that originality and that spark of some of the movies that I did earlier in my career, and I'd like to get back to that. What kinds of roles should I be looking for, and how can I get myself back on track?

HEHE..I know this is a tough one, but you can do it Matt! :)  

Other than Blood Work, I've loved all the films that Clint's done lately.  I just watched True Crime last night, and man... it's just so great.  I mean, it's a flawed movie for sure, there's some errors and a few bits where I thought the acting was pretty lousy, but for the most part, it was great.  The main actors were all incredible, and I loved the script... loved Eastwood's portrayal of Everett, and I think he surrounded himself with a top-notch cast, even if they weren't big names.   I think with the exceptions of Blood Work and Absolute Power, his movies since Unforgiven have been some of his best works of his career.  So, I think I'd just tell Clint that what he should do next is a movie that says a lot about people and relationships, that doesn't just focus on a crime that needs to be solved.   I like the combination of compassion and action that so many of his films have, and I'd recommend that if he did any kind of story, that he just made sure that his character and the characters that surround him are well-developed and realistic portrayals of people who the audience can appreciate and care about.  I'd stick with dramas, not comedy, and make sure the script is intelligent and that all the little errors that are so prominent in his later films (Absolute Power, Blood Work and True Crime have been nitpicked to death over little script errors) are cleaned up and that the script is airtight.  

I hope that answers your question, AKA.
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Post by: AKA23 on January 20, 2003, 05:46:14 PM
That's a decent answer, Matt. I like Absolute Power , and I haven't seen True Crime in awhile, but that one was pretty good too! I think I've had a problem with the ending of Clint's films more than anything. True Crime , Absolute Power , and Space Cowboys all disappointed me in the end!

If it wasn't the 1970's, I might pick the 1990's as the greatest period in Clint's career. You really can't ignore Unforgiven as a major career achievement, and that alone might be enough to place it as the best decade of his career, but In the Line of Fire , True Crime , A Perfect World , and for me, Absolute Power , were all pretty good. I don't remember what I put for my top 10 films, do you have those top Eastwood film threads saved, or those got deleted as well? A lot of them would be from the 90's for me.
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Post by: Conan on January 20, 2003, 06:07:44 PM
Conan: In your opinion,which some present time actor come close to Clint's style most?

  Good and VERY tough question, but no matter what I say...I stand the chance to get bombarded with flames.
  Ah what the heck, here goes...You mean style just as an actor obviously, since you didn't say anything about directing.  "Present time" I'll guess means younger than fifty.  I'll choose someone somewhat popular, rather than a no-namer.

  Clints style is softspoken with more facial expression than dialogue.  He has a certain believability and realism about him that many actors lack.  He can convey either "I'm going to kick your ass" (Westerns, Harry's) or "your beautiful" ("Bridges...", didn't like, but he was good in it) just by looking at someone.  What dialogue he does deliver, is well acted/timed and basically he just has me hanging on his every word.  Overall, he molds to his character superbly.  Obviously, Clint also brings a rugged been-there-before type of look and attitude to most of his movies.  There is much more to his "style", but I'm mainly trying to hit the high points here.

  If anyone argues with this, BE PREPARED TO SUBMIT YOUR OWN ARGUMENT for a different actor and it better be good.  None of this "no one can compare to our Clint!" cop-out crap, because I am forced to choose here.  The Conan-ster is will bring his "arguing A game" if you bring the heat against my response.  I have been tasked to answer the question; its not me throwing this up out of nowhere.

  Now he doesn't look like him, but he does meet my criteria above and he has shown in several movies to be an outstanding actor.  Admiteddly, he has done some cheeseball, mainstream movies, but so has Clint ("The Rookie", "City Heat").  And I never said he was a perfect match in terms of acting style, just the nearest that I can think of:
  Russell Crowe

I'll post tags later...:)
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Post by: Matt on January 20, 2003, 06:22:54 PM
Tagging.......

MC:   I agreed with your review of Blood Work; and I've been more than a little vocal about what I didn't like about it and how I thought it could be improved.  What are your feelings on this?  What do you think was the main problem with the film?  Was it the casting?  The script?  A lack of interest and/or effort on Eastwood's part? AKA asked me earlier in this game... now I'll ask you... do you think this film could have been saved, and what changes do you think would have been needed to make this a film of the quality that we're accustomed to from Eastwood?  

Is that too many qauestoins for one tag? Well, MC... welcome back!  Good to see your name on the board again.  I'm just gonna put you right to work. ;D

DirtyDuffy45   What Eastwood film since Unforgiven have you liked the most?  Which the least?

mgk:   What are your thoughts on Absolute Power?  Did you enjoy it?  If you listed Eastwood's films from your favorite to your least favorite, where would Absolute Power sit on the list... toward the bottom, the middle, the top?  What did you like about it, what did you dislike?

I sound wordy tonight... maybe too much caffeine.   ::)
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Post by: AKA23 on January 20, 2003, 06:35:03 PM
Tagging.......

Is that too many qauestoins for one tag? Well, MC... welcome back!  Good to see your name on the board again.  I'm just gonna put you right to work. ;D

Wordy? Nah, not you Matt! You do have some interesting spelling going on though!  ;D

MC, welcome back to the board! It's nice to see you around and if you check out the Blood Work spoilers thread, you'll find that Blood Work wasn't one of my favorites, and I'm interested to hear your answer to the latest question!
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Post by: Matt on January 20, 2003, 06:40:34 PM
Wordy? Nah, not you Matt! You do have some interesting spelling going on though!  ;D


Ummmm... that was FRENCH.  Cajun French.... "qauestoines"   Never seen that before?  ;D ;)

That's what I get for eating dinner at the computer.   :-[ :-X
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Post by: william on January 20, 2003, 07:12:52 PM

Hello Nightwing, sorry I didn't get back to you but I was crying over the Eagles losing, and besides, I have to live with an Eagles fan ;D

William - If Clint were to make a movie about football, which team should he work for?
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I believe Clint should direct a movie based on a team like we saw in "The Longest Yard" with Burt Reynolds. Maybe a re-make of some sort.
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Post by: Matt on January 20, 2003, 07:19:28 PM
Tightrope. You just can't beat Clint Eastwood playing a "sex investigator." ;) ;D But seriously, I've always liked the movie. I have it on VHS and I really look forward to when I can watch it in a nice widescreen transfer.


That makes two of us.  Man I hope that one comes out this year.  
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Post by: william on January 20, 2003, 07:21:54 PM
Since for some stupid reason I asked Aline a repetative question :o, I will ask her another, hopefully different one:

Aline:

What movies of Clint Eastwood do you need for your total collection? ;D
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Post by: Matt on January 20, 2003, 07:24:43 PM
I don't remember what I put for my top 10 films, do you have those top Eastwood film threads saved, or those got deleted as well? A lot of them would be from the 90's for me.

I'm not sure if I have them or not.  It might be a good thread to start again though, cause even if I have it saved, it's not one I'd transfer over.  I'm sure it would be easy enough for most people to repost their top ten favorites, and for a lot of us, that list would be changing every other week anyway.   If you feel so inclined, start a new thread on Top Ten Favorites, and Ten Least Favorite.
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Post by: Doug on January 20, 2003, 07:57:15 PM


[td]Doug:  [/td] [td]A variant on the lottery question. You win a choice of $10,000, or the chance to see the rejected alternate ending to Unforgiven ... the homecoming scene. (Eastwood told David Breskin "I could show it to you and you'd be the only person in the world to see it.") Which would you pick?[/td][/table]


That one's pretty easy...I'd take the money!  ;)  The movie is too perfect as is to worry about an alternate ending and being the only one to see it.  Now, if it was only a hundred bucks....sure, yeah...

Still thinking about matt's tag...
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Post by: mgk on January 20, 2003, 07:59:26 PM
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mgk:  What are your thoughts on Absolute Power?  Did you enjoy it?  If you listed Eastwood's films from your favorite to your least favorite, where would Absolute Power sit on the list... toward the bottom, the middle, the top?  What did you like about it, what did you dislike?

Gee...Matt, that's a lot of questions. :o

I liked Absolute Power mostly because it was an Eastwood movie and I liked the fact that he was playing a character close to his own age.  The basic story was okay but I felt it was a little far-fetched.  Maybe he could have seen a wealthy, powerful man (other than a politician such as the President) kill the girl and then had to figure out how to out-smart him.  The pace was fine with only a few slow spots and had enough humor to keep me somewhat entertained.

One of the things I liked about the movie was Luther's love for his daughter and his attempts at reconciliation with her.  I guess that was the most enjoyable factor for me.  And, I always enjoy Ed Harris...he's a top-notch actor.  Scott Glenn is another one I enjoy.

I didn't like the sleazy character of the President and was disappointed with some of the flaws and unanswered questions about the plot.  The first one that comes to mind is how did Seth Frank know where Luther kept the key to his house when he took Kate there?  There are others, too.

If I were making a list of Eastwood movies in order of preference, Absolute Power would rate somewhere in the lower middle.  It would be behind all the classics and other good ones such as Bronco Billy, A Perfect World, Tightrope, White Hunter/Black Heart and Play Misty For Me but would be ahead of movies such as The Dead Pool, The Rookie, Pink Cadillac, Firefox, Joe Kidd, and Blood Work.

Whew!!!!! 8)

Agent: Other than the spaghetti westerns and Dirty Harry, which movie do you think really helped put Eastwood's "name on the map"...so to speak?

mgk
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Post by: Conan on January 20, 2003, 08:28:20 PM

William: Have you ever cried during an Eastwood movie?  If so, which?

KC: What is the hardest you have ever laughed during an Eastwood movie?  The time/place and particular scene.
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Post by: Doug on January 20, 2003, 08:32:03 PM

TAGGING.... DOUG

Out of all the GREAT lines spoken by Eastwood in his entire career, which is your absolute favorite?

Throwing out all that don't stand alone (i.e. are direct responses to another character), I think I'll have to go with:

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A man has got to know his limitations.
From Magnum Force.  After dispatching all the rookies and blowing up Briggs, it was the perfect final quote.  I always look forward to it.
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Post by: Christopher on January 20, 2003, 08:42:47 PM
So the alternate ending of Unforgiven still exists! Why wasn't it on the SE DVD?

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Quote from AKA: that's enough making fun of me now Christopher! You don't want me to get upset, now do you?
Of course not. That just struck me as being humorous.

Now for a few of the questions I owe (finally)

AKA: What do you think Eastwood's funniest movie is?

Conan: Has any Eastwood movie made you cry or maybe give you a lump in your throat?

allycat: What's your favorite Eastwood movie?

Matt: What was is about Absolute Power that you didn't like? (I apologize if you've written about this before)

Holden Pike: What is your least favorite Eastwood movie?

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Post by: william on January 20, 2003, 08:56:59 PM
You know, I have never cried during any clint eastwood film. I cried however, in "The Green Mile" when in the last scene, the old mouse came out to eat. I had just lost a Guinea Pig :'(

Christopher:

Clint is about to sink a 3 foot putt, and all of a sudden you pass wind :o, what are you going to do now ;D

Matt:

You are in school. You catch the eye of Clints' daughter, winking at you. Clint is your Teacher and the study is Anatomy. What will you do ;D
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Post by: Doug on January 20, 2003, 09:03:26 PM
I'm figuring I owe three tags....


Matt:  What is your favorite speech by Clint?  I'd say to qualify as a speech, it must have about five sentences or so.  Probably narrows it down. :)

KC:  If you had a choice, would you rather have a one-on-one interview with Clint for one hour or be allowed to sit on the set for a whole day of filming (with Clint directing and scheduled to act as well) but you won't be able to speak to him?  If you were allowed a longer interview or a longer time on the set, would that change your answer?

Philo: Is there a musician that you think Clint could do a great job of directing a movie bio about?  Any genre of music from Classical to rap... :)  So you can pretend he would be fascinated about the person's "story" even if it's not a typical type of music he might listen to.  
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Post by: Conan on January 20, 2003, 09:05:02 PM

Conan: Has any Eastwood movie made you cry or maybe give you a lump in your throat?


  Several parts in "Unforgiven" gave me the lump, but thats the closest I've come while watching an Eastwood movie.
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Post by: Christopher on January 20, 2003, 09:20:53 PM
William asked:
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Christopher: Clint is about to sink a 3 foot putt, and all of a sudden you pass wind , what are you going to do now ;D
I'd blame it on those darn gophers. ;D

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Post by: william on January 20, 2003, 09:24:10 PM
christopher:

hee, hee ;D
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Post by: AKA23 on January 20, 2003, 09:36:21 PM
I'm not sure if I have them or not.  It might be a good thread to start again though, cause even if I have it saved, it's not one I'd transfer over.  I'm sure it would be easy enough for most people to repost their top ten favorites, and for a lot of us, that list would be changing every other week anyway.   If you feel so inclined, start a new thread on Top Ten Favorites, and Ten Least Favorite.

Good idea, Matt. I think I'll do that. I was wondering if you had it so I could see what I posted as my top ten favorites and so I could evaluate whether or not there were films that I've missed or if I would change my opinion on any of the films. I have a feeling a few films that weren't my favorites back then might creep into the list now..and I think when I did it I named 12 films, not 10. See if you have that one so I can see what my top films were, and then I'll start two new threads of top ten and least favorite, as you suggested :) That would be cool.
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Post by: AKA23 on January 20, 2003, 09:39:35 PM
After reading MGK's response and some of the other recent comments about Absolute Power on the board, it seems to be the only film of Eastwood's that I really like a lot that nobody seems to like all that much. I remember placing it as a favorite among his, and I think I still would. I have reservations about the way that film was handled in the end, but other than that, I thought it was a great movie. The ending was poorly done in my opinion, but I liked the rest of that film. It was the first Eastwood film that I saw in theaters, and I remember really not liking it when I first saw it, so maybe the fact that I transformed my opinion of it later when I really didn't like it before has something to do with my love for it now.
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Post by: Conan on January 20, 2003, 09:40:58 PM
Hmmm, two more tags and I'm running out of ideas.

AKA: In ONE word, describe Clint.  Only one word :)

MGK: Your have to show your class one Clint movie, what is it?
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Post by: AKA23 on January 20, 2003, 10:31:04 PM

AKA: What do you think Eastwood's funniest movie is?

None of Eastwood's films are an out and out comedy (except perhaps the orangutang flicks which I've never really cared for), and most of his films have a certain tongue and cheek comedy that I admire and appreciate. Humor is a bit of an overlooked quality that I think is really present in a lot of his films. Perhaps Bronco Billy is his closest to a comedy, so maybe I'd pick that one. If we're going for recent films, Space Cowboys has a lot of comic moments, and it may be Clint's funniest film.
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Post by: AKA23 on January 20, 2003, 10:33:16 PM

AKA: In ONE word, describe Clint.  Only one word :)

KC has already used "consummate" which fits perfectly and is probably what I would have used myself, but since I can't duplicate her answer, I'll have to think on that one and say "prolific." If I come up with something better later, I'll go ahead and post that but you're confining me to one word here! That's not easy! ;)
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Post by: mgk on January 20, 2003, 10:39:54 PM
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MGK: Your have to show your class one Clint movie, what is it?


Conan, I used to teach fourth grade and, unless I go back to the 1950s, I don't think there's a single Eastwood movie I could show them.  So, I'll pretend that I'm teaching much older students but even that is hard.  Almost any Eastwood movie would require parents' permission but I think I would choose Bronco Billy. It's a fun movie about friends, "family", loyalty, and dreams and the students would really enjoy Leonard James' rope tricks, Bronco Billy McCoy's tricks on his horse, and the boys always enjoy anything that has to do with snakes. ::)

I owe one tag and will come back with one later.

mgk
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Post by: Matt on January 20, 2003, 11:11:48 PM

Matt:

You are in school. You catch the eye of Clints' daughter, winking at you. Clint is your Teacher and the study is Anatomy. What will you do ;D

If Clint wasn't "Clint Eastwood" aka Dirty Harry, Man With No Name, etc...  if he was just a teacher, so what?   I'd take my chances with the Anatomy teacher and take out his daughter.   Besides, I've always been good with the parents. :)


Matt: What was is about Absolute Power that you didn't like? (I apologize if you've written about this before)

I don't think I've ever written about my thoughts on Absolute Power.   It's an "okay" film.  I'd place it toward the bottom of my Eastwood list, but not in there with the real stinkers.  I find it bland and average with nothing really striking or memorable about it.  There's a couple of good scenes... my favorite is probably the one with Luther and Seth in the cafeteria, both trying to outsmart each other and  I like the relationship angle with Luther and Kate, but those are about the only parts of the movie that I actually like.   I thought that Judy Davis as Gloria Russell was just awful, I almost cringe everytime she's on screen.   There's a lot of plot holes, mgk gave one in her post earlier today, another is that Walter Sullivan's gunman was in position to shoot Whitney at the restaurant, how did he know he was going to be there?   The ending was pretty bland too... it was a climax that didn't really happen.  They robbed the audience of the final conflict, so all we really have is the scene where Clint gives the letter opener to Sullivan, and after watching the whole movie... that just wasn't enough.

I agree with everything that mgk wrote in her post about Absolute Power, so I'll just say "ditto" to that, in addition to what I've written here.

Matt:  What is your favorite speech by Clint?  I'd say to qualify as a speech, it must have about five sentences or so.  Probably narrows it down. :)

Hmmm... is the "Do you feel lucky" scene five sentences or more?   That's a definite favorite.  Even though I've seen Dirty Harry a dozen times or more, I still almost always replay that scene because watching it once isn't enough.   HOWEVER...  as much as I love that one, this one is right up there... and since the "lucky" speech is such an obvious answer, I'll give this one instead.  It's really great, one of my favorite scenes in all of Eastwood, and it just happens to be a long monologue.  From In the Line of Fire:

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FRANK HORRIGAN: You know something?  For years I've been listening to all these idiots on barstools with all their pet theories on Dallas.  How it was the Cubans, CIA or the white supremacists or the mob or whether there was one weapon or whether it was five.  None of that's meant too much to me.  But Leary, he questioned whether I had the guts to take that fatal bullet.  (Long pause as Frank visualizes the day, remember every detail... his voice weak and close to cracking) God that was a beautiful day.  The sun was out.  Been raining all morning, the air was—  The first shot, sounded like a firecracker.  I looked over I saw him, I could tell he was hit.  I don't know why I didn't react.  I should have reacted.  I should have been running flat out.  I just didn't believe it.  If only I reacted I could have taken that shot.  That would have been all right with me.
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Post by: DirtyDuffy45 on January 21, 2003, 12:22:24 AM
DirtyDuffy45  What Eastwood film since Unforgiven have you liked the most?  Which the least?


well since Unforgiven I would have to say Ive enjoyed most all of clints films I would have to say the movie I liked the most would be between Bloodwork and In the line of Fire.  The movie Ive liked the least would have to be space cowboys.  I got no problems with it Ive just like the others better.

Hemlock- The film industry is going to remake GBU and FOD and FFDM you can choose whose playing the legendary man with no name so who do you pick?
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Post by: KC on January 21, 2003, 01:40:03 AM
Here are my answers to the five tags I've had since Sunday ... I'll have to post my new questions later on Tuesday.


:) KC: If you were to take a driving tour of the United States to see some of the filming sites of Eastwood movies, which three would be at the top of your list to include?  And, why?
I hope I can "annex" Canada to the United States, because right at the top of my list would be the various sites in the vicinity of Brooks, Drumheller, and Longview, Alberta, where Unforgiven was filmed. Given my passion for Unforgiven, I don't think I need to say "why," but I'd add that the scenery looks spectacular enough to merit a visit in its own right. Second on my list would be San Francisco, because it's home not only to Dirty Harry but the whole "Harry" series ... and we have a good guide to specific sites in the original film at Movietours.com (http://www.movietours.com/harry/intro/). Also, it's a city I'd like to visit anyway! Third would be the site of High Plains Drifter's "Lago," on the shores of Mono Lake, California ... because the film is a favorite of mine, and again because the scenery looks like it'd be worth a visit even without the movie. If I could make one more stop it would be in downtown Phoenix. I'd like to retrace that bus's route through the "Gauntlet."

Oh yes  ... and Carmel? Well, of course I'd like to go there, because of Misty, and because it's Clint's home town ... and also for a personal reason: My parents were married there. My mother always said it was the most beautiful place she had ever seen. So, it would definitely be a stop on my tour ... but I was just supposed to name my top three! ;)


KC

Which Eastwood film would you liked to have seen more times on the big screen and why?
I've never seen High Plains Drifter in a theater, so I'd have to say that would be my answer. I'd love to see it on a really big screen and in a packed house.


KC : Let's pretend for a moment that Clint Eastwood has come to you to provide him some advice on his recent court action against Patrick McGilligan. I know that you support the suit, but what would be your best argument to use in defense of Mr. Eastwood and against Mr. McGilligan? How would you approach that action to maximize the possibility of a victory for Mr. Eastwood.
Easy, I'd tell him, "Clint, I'm not a lawyer. Go out and hire the best team of lawyers you can find; they're the ones you should be asking for advice about this. When you want some advice on a baseball movie ... or who you should co-star with in a buddy movie ... or the best restaurants in Manhattan ... I'm available!"  ;)


KC: What is the hardest you have ever laughed during an Eastwood movie?  The time/place and particular scene.
Darned if I can remember laughing especially hard in any Eastwood movie, not the way I've laughed at some of those silly Abrahams-Zucker Airplane!-type spoofs, anyway. I think some parts of Unforgiven are terribly funny, but they're sad, too, and they make you think, and I don't laugh aloud at them. I can tell you that the biggest audience laugh I recall hearing while attending an Eastwood film in recent years came in True Crime ... during the scene with Bob Findley in Alan Mann's office. Matt just posted it in the "Favorite quotes and one-liners" thread ...
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EVERETT: Damn it, Bob! Why don't you hit me in the fu<king face, will you?  I'll fall down, I'll bleed, I'll do all that. I deserve it. Then you can go home and hit your wife, 'cause she likes it.


KC:  If you had a choice, would you rather have a one-on-one interview with Clint for one hour or be allowed to sit on the set for a whole day of filming (with Clint directing and scheduled to act as well) but you won't be able to speak to him?  If you were allowed a longer interview or a longer time on the set, would that change your answer?
That's hard. I think I'd take the day on the set. In the first place, I'd be so tongue-tied if I actually had the chance to interview him that I doubt I could get a single question out. Then too ... I've read so many interviews with Eastwood, in the course of preparing the interview book and since, that I can't think of too many questions to ask him that he hasn't been asked already ... and I would hate to have to interview him and ask him only stuff he's heard before. On the other hand, I'd love to try to draw him out on Unforgiven, and I could think of a few new questions there  ... whether he thought of the title, was it he who did the minor rewriting and tightening of the script, how he got the idea to begin and end the film with the long shots of Munny, whether the shaving scene (not in Peoples's script) was his idea ... I don't know, it's too hard to choose! I guess, if I were interviewing him for a specific project, say the dream I have of a scholar's edition of Unforgiven, and I was sure he wanted to help out ... then I'd take the interview. If it was "just for fun," I'd take the day on the set.
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Post by: Agent on January 21, 2003, 09:41:52 AM
[td]Agent: [/td] [td]You can go back in time and be an extra in any one Eastwood movie. Your wardrobe will be supplied, and you may keep it afterwards. With that in mind, which film do you pick?[/td][/table]
I think I'd pick Escape from Alcatraz. Those threads the cons wore look pretty comfortable, and they'd be great for lounging around the house. Maybe I'd make an evening trip to the grocery store now and then and freak people out.

Agent: Who are your three favorite co-stars in an Eastwood movie...male or female?
Jeff Bridges – classic team
Jessica Walter - they made a great couple, don’t you think?
Reni Santoni – great casting. Maybe he would’ve been better for the part that Rodriquez played in Blood Work?


Okay:

KC: If you were invited to be on a talk-show and have a one-on-one debate with Patrick McGilligan, what would you ask/say to him?

Gant: Have you ever seen a Clint movie in the theater where someone sitting close to you was so annoying/and or distracting, it practically ruined the movie?

AKA23: Have you ever been criticized by family or friends for liking Eastwood and his movies?

William:: You’ve been invited to play a bit part (recite one line) in a new Eastwood movie. However, the date/time set for the shooting conflicts with an interview you have for a job that pays $90k+ annually, and you’re guaranteed the position if you do the interview – any rescheduling is out of the question. Which would you choose?



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Post by: AKA23 on January 21, 2003, 12:50:38 PM

AKA23: Have you ever been criticized by family or friends for liking Eastwood and his movies?

YES! I have most definitely been criticized for liking Eastwood and his movies. I'm always getting jokes from family members about Eastwood! My mom likes Eastwood, so I don't get jokes from her about it, but my brother is always joking about Eastwood and how I post on the web board (he likes a few of his movies), and my Dad doesn't understand the Eastwood thing either. I'm not sure whether or not he likes Eastwood or not, but he jokes about it too! So, yeah, the short answer is yes, all the time :)
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Post by: AKA23 on January 21, 2003, 12:52:48 PM
All right folks. By my calculations, I owe about six questions. 2 from the first one yesterday, and two more for the other two questions that I was asked, and two from today so far! Hmm..I've got work to do :)
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Post by: AKA23 on January 21, 2003, 01:30:21 PM
All right. Here are my questions:

BDC : From a social standpoint, there have been quite a few films that Clint has done where one could conceivably attach some kind of a social message. For example, with True Crime, one could easily see the situation depicted in the film as a statement against the death penalty. Personally, I don't, but I see where the argument could be made. Do you feel that as a filmmaker Clint intends to, through his characters, his film choices, or something else, attach any kind of a social message, or is that just a function of the character, or the film role, or whatever? Do you believe Clint intends to "say something" with his films, or not? If you do, can you give a few examples of films in which you feel a message was conveyed, and what you felt that mesage was?

KC : You kind of copped out on my Patrick McGilligan question, but that's okay ;) Have you ever thought of writing a script or some kind of treatment for Eastwood to do in a film? It seems to me as if you've been involved in so many different ways that it wouldn't be such a stretch for you to try to work on a script. Do you or have you in the past ever had any ideas that you felt might work for Clint? Have you just never thought about it?

MGK : Sometimes there are films that have the ability to touch us or profoundly affect us in one way or another. Some people may call them "life changing" film experiences, but I'm not really sure that your experience with a film can really change your life. Have you ever had that kind of experience with an Eastwood film? If so, what film was that, and why did it have such a profound effect on you? What was that effect?                                                      

Matt : One of your friends comes up to you and asks you "so who is this Clint Eastwood guy?" (This has happened to me), after recovering from the initial shock, what do you tell this guy, how do you approach the situation, and would you feel some kind of an obligation to try to initiate him to become some kind of a Clint Eastwood fan, or at least gain some exposure to the man and his work?  

Conan : Describe Clint. ONE WORD.

Daisy : A guy comes up to you and you're discussing Eastwood, and he casually remarks that he thinks that The Dead Pool is the best Eastwood film that he's done, and that if it's not the best, it's definitely the best out of the Harry series. You tell him that you disagree, and that the man has acted and directed in a lot of films that were better than that. The guy goes "he directs?" HEHE...what do you say to this guy, do you try to convince him of his stupidity in saying that The Dead Pool is the best in the Harry series (this has also happened to me, remember I told you that story Matt?), or do you just go crazy on him for knowing nothing about Eastwood and not even knowing that he directs? HEHE ;)

 
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Post by: mgk on January 21, 2003, 01:44:43 PM
 :) I still owe one tag from yesterday, so......

Xichado:  Since you are familiar with F. Scott Fitzgerald, is there a book that Fitzgerald wrote that you would like to see Eastwood make into a film?

mgk
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Post by: bdc28 on January 21, 2003, 02:07:22 PM
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BDC : From a social standpoint, there have been quite a few films that Clint has done where one could conceivably attach some kind of a social message. For example, with True Crime, one could easily see the situation depicted in the film as a statement against the death penalty. Personally, I don't, but I see where the argument could be made. Do you feel that as a filmmaker Clint intends to, through his characters, his film choices, or something else, attach any kind of a social message, or is that just a function of the character, or the film role, or whatever? Do you believe Clint intends to "say something" with his films, or not? If you do, can you give a few examples of films in which you feel a message was conveyed, and what you felt that mesage was?
 

Man AKA, can you come up with some doozies.

Okay, here is my thought. Clint is a very thoughtful individual, who looked at televsion and theatre as more than just "idiot boxes".  I also believe that working with Sergio Leone gave him a certain sense of helplessness, that he wasnt working with his own script and thought.

I could pretty much say that Clint makes it a POINT to send a message, no matter how subtle, to his fans. Sometimes he would send MULTIPLE messages into his stories. When he wasnt working with his own scripts, he chose stories that were thought provoking.

Let me grab a couple off of the top of my head.

JOSEY WALES: Now although this was based on a book, the thoughts were there, definitely. The irony that "white man" was so good in his own mind, but could tear a country apart in its own civil war. That the Native American was supposed to be so "bad", but ended up being the saviors of the stories. The scene between Wales and Ten Bears couldnt say more.

DIRTY HARRY: This was just a pursuit of truth. That the "system" is not only inadequate, but breaking down.  That good guys go on getting punished for the deeds of the bad.

UNFORGIVEN: That legends are not legends, but very fallable humans.

Overall, if I had to say what message was consistent in every Clint movie, it was the breakdown of the image, and the pursuit of the gritty REAL truth. Even the spaghetti westerns said "THIS is how the west was...not white hats".

Okay, ALL MEMBER TAG!!! All members have to answer this question. I cant limit it to one person. NAME THE MOMENT YOU FELL INTO THE EASTWOOD MOVIES. What were you watching, and what was it about? Why?
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Post by: bdc28 on January 21, 2003, 02:09:36 PM
..and of course, the most important truth in all of Eastwoods movies.....

That Thunderbolt and Lightfoot were gay.
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Post by: Gant on January 21, 2003, 03:04:44 PM
Ah.. a question for me... ;D

Question from Agent...
Have you ever seen a Clint movie in the theater where someone sitting close to you was so annoying/and or distracting, it practicaly ruined the movie.

Well Agent, theres a big fat yes to that.

Actually the movie wasn't ruined but pretty damned close.

I was lucky enough to be in San Diego when In the line of Fire was released. I was very excited about this as I'd been in SanFrancisco during the build up for the release and seen/heard all the positive reviews about the film. I'd also visited Carmel a week or so before so I was definitely looking forward to seeing my second Eastwood film Stateside. (My first being Heartbreak Ridge in NY)
The cinema was packed and the film rolled.. within minutes I became aware of a woman behind me chatting to someone.. I tried to ignore it but she went on and and f*****' on. She seemed to be describing the film to her partner almost scene by scene. I couldn't believe no one said anything, almost as if it were normal behavour..
Eventually I cracked.. I mean, this was a major Eastwood release.. and you can only ever experience seeing a film in the cinema for the first time once..so I turned around a loudly told her to shut up. It was at this point I realised that her partner closely resembled Butcher Hinks from the Dead Pool and I quickly realised why no one else had said anything... There was a murmor of aproval from the audience as I slunk back down in my seat, fully expecting some kind of violence..but it didn't come.. I never heard another sound from them throughout the rest of the film.. and when the lights came up they were gone...

A lucky break I reckon, still, it didn't ruin what for me was a great Eastwood performance..

My tags to follow.


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Post by: AKA23 on January 21, 2003, 03:09:53 PM
Hey Gant :) I asked you this question too. Maybe you missed it awhile back:

Gant: : I know that you are not a huge fan of Clint Eastwood's movie version of Firefox , but that you liked the original novel by Craig Thomas quite a bit. In your view, what would have made it a better film? If you were in charge, what things would you have changed about it to improve it and have it be a great Eastwood film? Would you have stayed closer to the book (if drastic changes were made from the original), or what?
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Post by: Agent on January 21, 2003, 03:13:08 PM
Agent:Sonia Braga is a brasilian actress that played with Clint in The Rookie.Her character was very criticized here,called speechless and vulgar.Do you agree?What your thoughts about her performance in that movie?

I hate to say this Aline, but it's been so long since I've seen that movie (on TV only), that I don't recall Braga's performance. Do you have another question I could maybe answer? Sorry.... :-[
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Post by: Aline on January 21, 2003, 04:22:37 PM
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What movies of Clint Eastwood do you need for your total collection?

Now that IS a new question,William  ;)

I have all Clint movies excepting "Joe Kidd" (I love the movie) and "Space Cowboys".I never have seen "The Witches" and "Paint your wagon".
I also don't have the two Clyde movies and really I don't miss them  ;)

Doug : Which Clint movie you watch and feel same emotion,don't matter how many times you watch it?

Palm : There is any song that remind you of Clint?Which (title and singer) and why?

Agent,I really want you to answer that question.What about you re-watch the movie and answer later?
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Post by: Palm on January 21, 2003, 04:50:21 PM
Matt asked me what Eastwood Location i would like to visit:

I would love to take a look at the Eiger and be impressed by all that Climbing Clint has done himself.

Xichado asked me what book i would like to see Clint make an adaptation and why of:
It's has already been done but i would like to see him do another adaptation of "The Great Gatsby" by F. Scott Fitzergald. It is my favorite book, Clint has never made a roaring twenties film so i would love to see him do a thing like that (as long as there is NO Mia Farrow and Karen Black in it........)

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Post by: Palm on January 21, 2003, 05:04:18 PM
Oops i am a bit lost here.......another question from Aline:

Palm : There is any song that remind you of Clint?Which (title and singer) and why?

I have loads of songs that remind me of him ( as long as there are words in them like : handsome, tall, cute and sexy it's alright by me  ;D :-*)
But there is one song that i liked before i knew Clint used it in Play Misty For Me and that is Off course "the first time ever i saw your face" by Roberta Flack. The words and music is sooooooo good and the way it is used in that film always takes my breath away. Just by using that song and doing such a wonderfull job on the montage of those beautifull scenes just shows you that Clint is a very sensative, tender and loving man.

Oops i lost count on how many tags i may do now ??
the questions from matt and xichado are from the 19th and Aline's one is from today.........

Well let me just put four :

MGK : If there is one song from Elvis that you may sing for Clint, which one would it be ???

KC : If Clint has to play a Jack Nicholson character would you like to see him do " terms of endearment" or " as good as it gets" ??? And why ?????

Matt:
Robert Redford, Paul Newman and Clint have to star in a new movie together..........what would the plot be like ????

Aline : How long have you been an Eastwood fan ???

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Post by: Conan on January 21, 2003, 05:27:10 PM
All right. Here are my questions:

Conan : Describe Clint. ONE WORD.

Thebestmoviedirector/actorofalltime.  I'm kidding.


One word: Peerless.
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Post by: Matt on January 21, 2003, 07:15:54 PM
BDC's back!  So here's the question I tagged him with on January 8th... feel free to jump in here with an answer to this one anytime:

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bdc28:  WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN, MAN???  I hope you're around soon to play and answer this:  If you could be Clint for a day.... any day of his entire life... which day would you choose?  You might want to pick a day that he shot a particular scene, or something that he's done off camera.

Glad to have you back, BDC... BUT.... you can't tag "everyone"!  Leave it to you to break the rules with your first post in the game. ;D  If you want everyone to answer a question, start a regular topic with that question.   In this game, you have to direct your question to a particular person.  Why?  Well, because it's getting everyone posting, they see their name and they think, "Oh man, I have to answer that, it's posed to me".   Whereas before, everyone's just reading the topics and going "Hmm... what do you know" and not posting their opinions.   Sooooooo... next time you tag, pick someone, and give 'em a question.  8)
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Post by: william on January 21, 2003, 07:59:46 PM
Agent, what is the job? ;D
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: Xichado on January 21, 2003, 10:09:38 PM
[td]Xichado:  [/td] [td]Are there any Portuguese or Brazilian actors (other than Sonia Braga) you'd like to see work with Clint?[/td][/table]
From the top of my head, here’s a few:

Fernanda Montenegro
(http://www.uol.com.br/fernandamontenegro/english/images/fer01.jpg)with her husband, Fernando Torres, another excellent actor.
A great brazilian actress (theatre/tv/cinema). At the moment she is probably the most renowned actress in the portuguese speaking world. She is a remarkable performer and very diversified, her characters always have a human sensibility and honesty that makes them unique and unforgettable.


Antonio Fagundes
(http://www.terra.com.br/istoegente/160/fotos/antonio_fagundes.jpg)
Another great brasilian actor. He was recently in "Bossa Nova" (2000), which I enjoyed a lot. Once again, a very diversified and powerful actor.


Joaquim de Almeida
(http://www.hollys.com/images/joa11.jpg)
Portuguese actor that has done some work in Hollywood (was in “Behind Enemy Lines” as Admiral Piquet, the one who was giving Gene Hackman a really hard time and was also in “Clear and Present Danger”). A very good actor.


Maria de Medeiros
(http://www.spacey.com/images/henryandjune2.jpg) (http://www.rialtofilm.nl/notte/illustr/medeiros-tres.jpg)
I love her face, especially her eyes. She played Anaïs Nin in "Henry and June" (1990), a very remarkable performance from my point of view. If I had to describe her in a word, it would be: gracious. (She was also in "Pulp Fiction", as Bruce Willis’ girlfriend)
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: Matt on January 21, 2003, 10:21:39 PM

Matt : One of your friends comes up to you and asks you "so who is this Clint Eastwood guy?" (This has happened to me), after recovering from the initial shock, what do you tell this guy, how do you approach the situation, and would you feel some kind of an obligation to try to initiate him to become some kind of a Clint Eastwood fan, or at least gain some exposure to the man and his work?  

I pity the fool who don't know Clint Eastwood. (http://maverickreport.com/images/smilies/mrt2.gif)

I've run into a few people who haven't seen a Clint Eastwood movie.  My very own girlfriend hadn't seen one until I showed her The Outlaw Josey Wales.  I've run into a few here and there, and I always start rambling about what movies they have to rent and how much they've gotta listen to me cause I know they'll love them.  I was talking to a young woman in a grocery store about vacations, and I brought up Carmel and she said she heard that was where Clint Eastwood lived, but she had never seen a movie and wanted to know if she was missing anything... well, you can imagine how fast I started talking then... I should have just taken out a paper and pen and made her a list... no way she'd remember anything specific after all the rambling I did about that.  ;D


Matt:
Robert Redford, Paul Newman and Clint have to star in a new movie together..........what would the plot be like ????


I'm thinking something like Ocean's Eleven, another big heist movie, maybe along the lines of Thunderbolt and Lightfoot... they may have all worked together in the past.  Perhaps they've been in jail for the past twenty years or so and have just gotten out... one of them talks the other two into one more heist so they can retire in style.  It's been done before... but hasn't everything at this point?

I owe seven tags.  I'll be right back with them.  
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: Lilly on January 21, 2003, 10:29:42 PM
 :)Hi everyone - yes I'm back from the dead...sorry I've taken so long to answer and post my tags :-[ (I've been busy at uni and "under the weather" for a few days).  

I have 2 questions to answer, first from mgk:
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You have the privilege to be the casting director on any film Eastwood has done.  Which actor would you MOST like to replace...one that you didn't think was suited for his/her role...and who would you replace him/her with?
 That's a tough one mgk!  I suspect that this might best apply to an Eastwood film that I haven't seen yet (sadly that's still quite a few).  I can think of a few examples of acting I found poor in Clint films, but these are minor roles that I didn't think affected the overall quality of the film (like some of the Birth Right dudes in Pink Cadillac - appalling, but changing the actors probably wouldn't have made the film much better).  I don't like to jump on the anti-Sondra Locke bandwagon, but I think she over-features in Clint's filmography.  Having said that, I'm not sure which particular film I would replace her in (and she was good in some).  She was pretty bad in parts of Any Which Way You Can (I cringe during the scene where she joins Philo in the shed, and when she says "big boy" when they're at the motel!), but I suppose she is a part of the Which Way movies, for good or bad.  Oooh this is hard!  ???  OK, I'm going to go for Wanda De Jesus in Blood Work.  Maybe that's a little harsh, because I think most of the problems I have with Graciela Rivers stem from the script, but as noted elsewhere on the board, I think there could have been more chemistry between her and McCaleb, and they just didn't seem to gel for me.  Who to replace her with?  I really find that hard because I don't watch that many movies other than Clint's, and it would have to be someone that Clint felt personally happy with, or it wouldn't work.  Meryl Streep is brilliant, but I don't think the Graciela role is worthy of her talent, and I don't think she could improve on Bridges of Madison County, so anything else with Clint would inevitably be compared to that, and would probably be going downhill for her.  So sorry, I can't really answer that properly.  :-[

Now Matt's question:
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Have you seen an Eastwood film yet that you didn't really enjoy?  If so, which one?
 I have enjoyed every Clint film that I've seen, on some level.  However, if I had to pick the one I enjoyed least it would be Pink Cadillac.  It didn't offer anything new or make me think very hard.  Of course it was meant to be a light-hearted, fun movie, but it just isn't in the class of many of Clint's other films.  Some of the acting and the script were pretty bad, and the ending left quite a lot to be desired.  Nevertheless, as I've said in another thread, I still enjoy watching Clint even in that film.  

I owe LOADS of tags - six I think, or maybe seven, so I better get started:

Lucas: Some Clint films have been assessed as sending a political/social message (I'm thinking of Dirty Harry and True Crime in particular), whether this was intended by the film makers or not.  If Clint was going to make a film with a particular intended political message, what would you like that message to be?

Gant: I'm often amazed by the number of people who don't realise that Clint directs as well as acts.  If you had to convince a "non-believer" of the greatness of Clint's talents as a director, which one film would you show them, OTHER than Unforgiven?

Doug: If Clint decided to continue directing, but act in only one more film, in which genre would you like that film to be?

More questions coming...
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: Matt on January 21, 2003, 10:45:08 PM
Here's the tags I owe:

Allycat:Is there one movie more than any other that turned you into an Eastwood fan?  If so, which one was it?
Lilly:  I just got done watching "your" Eastwood movie, In the Line of Fire, and you and I both posted a lot of great quotes over in the "Favorite Eastwood Quotes and One Liners" thread.  What's your very favorite line or exchange in the movie?
Daisy:[/color] If Clint wanted to take it easy after Mystic River and do another film, but only act in it this time... who would you most like to see direct the film?
D'Ambrosia: I asked Doug, now it's your turn... out of all the great lines Eastwood's spoken in his long film career, which is your absolute favorite?
Philo:  Forgive me if you've mentioned this on the board in the past, but out of everything that has already been produced, what is the ONE thing that you are most burned up about it not having been added to one of Clint's DVD's as an extra?
davytriumph: How long have you been an Eastwood fan, and what was the first movie of his that you remember seeing?
Agent: If you were in charge of picking five films for our Eastwood 2003 Convention, which five would you choose?
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: KC on January 21, 2003, 11:13:26 PM
Xichado, thanks for posting all those great pictures! Makes me wish I could wander down to the corner Bijou and catch a flick starring one of them.  :D

Fernanda Montenegro was in a picture that was quite widely seen in the U.S. (I missed it, though :( ) ... Central do Brasil (Central Station), 1998. Indeed, she received an Oscar nomination for her role, and the film was nominated as Best Foreign Language Film (it didn't win).

I owe SEVEN tags from Monday! I'll post them before answering the new ones I've accumulated today.

[td]bdc28: [/td] [td]Since you're back ... I'll ask your "All Member Tag" of you: "Name the moment you fell into Eastwood films"! ;)[/td][/table]

[td]Lilly: [/td] [td]Since YOU'RE back ... Since you haven't seen all of Eastwood's films yet, is there one (or more) you're putting off because you don't think you'll enjoy it? Conversely, are there any you're "saving" because you expect them to be really good and you want to "defer the pleasure"?[/td][/table]

[td]Aline:  [/td][td] Which of the actors whose pictures Xichado posted would YOU like to see work with Clint? Can you suggest a kind of film they might make together? (If you can think of some other Brazilian actors, that's OK too.)[/td][/table]

[td]Christopher: [/td] [td]I hear you're a Scorsese fan. Could you picture Clint in a leading role in any Scorsese picture released to date?[/td][/table]

[td]allycat:  [/td] [td]if you had a chance to time-travel and play one of the two leading female roles in Play Misty for Me, would you pick Evelyn or Tobie? (Before you decide ... Don't forget, it was COLD under that waterfall! ;) )[/td][/table]

[td]Palm:  [/td] [td]Clint is coming to the Netherlands to film a gritty police drama. What city should he pick as the locale? He's not interested in picture-postcard scenes![/td][/table]

[td]Xichado:  [/td][td] (Sorry to keep tagging you but you give such great answers!) I'm going to hand back to you the one I couldn't answer: If Clint were host of a game show, which one would it be? And how would he make it interesting for people who don't watch game shows? ;)[/td][/table]
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: Lilly on January 21, 2003, 11:19:21 PM
 :) Funny you should ask this question Matt,
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I just got done watching "your" Eastwood movie, In the Line of Fire, and you and I both posted a lot of great quotes over in the "Favorite Eastwood Quotes and One Liners" thread.  What's your very favorite line or exchange in the movie?
because I was just agreeing with your answer to Doug's question on page 9 of this thread:
It's really great, one of my favorite scenes in all of Eastwood, and it just happens to be a long monologue.  From In the Line of Fire:

Quote:FRANK HORRIGAN: You know something?  For years I've been listening to all these idiots on barstools with all their pet theories on Dallas.  How it was the Cubans, CIA or the white supremacists or the mob or whether there was one weapon or whether it was five.  None of that's meant too much to me.  But Leary, he questioned whether I had the guts to take that fatal bullet.  (Long pause as Frank visualizes the day, remember every detail... his voice weak and close to cracking) God that was a beautiful day.  The sun was out.  Been raining all morning, the air was—  The first shot, sounded like a firecracker.  I looked over I saw him, I could tell he was hit.  I don't know why I didn't react.  I should have reacted.  I should have been running flat out.  I just didn't believe it.  If only I reacted I could have taken that shot.  That would have been all right with me.
That is my favourite quote from In The Line Of Fire too.  Clint delivered those lines SO well, with tears in his eyes and his lip trembling.  In the director's commentary on the SE DVD, Wolfgang Petersen says that is his favourite scene from the movie.  He said it was amazing to see Clint choking up like that, and the whole crew were silent and amazed by it too.  He was just praying that the cameras had worked OK.  It was such a great moment between Lilly and Frank; he opened up about his inner guilt and feelings of failure, and I was choked up myself when I watched it. It was particularly moving because Frank's feelings describe a real-life tragic event, and the script of an agent from 1963 feeling like that is totally believable.  Apparently Petersen told Rene Russo on the quiet to take Clint's hand during the shooting of that scene, even though it was unscripted (the shot of them holding hands was done separately), in the hope that the unexpected intimacy would have an affect on Clint's performance, and it certainly did.   A master stroke by Petersen and screenwriter Jeff Maguire!  

Tags on the way!
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: AKA23 on January 21, 2003, 11:23:38 PM

:) Funny you should ask this question Matt,  because I was just agreeing with your answer to Doug's question on page 9 of this thread: That is my favourite quote from In The Line Of Fire too.  Clint delivered those lines SO well, with tears in his eyes and his lip trembling.  In the director's commentary on the SE DVD, Wolfgang Petersen says that is his favourite scene from the movie.  He said it was amazing to see Clint choking up like that, and the whole crew were silent and amazed by it too.  He was just praying that the cameras had worked OK.  It was such a great moment between Lilly and Frank; he opened up about his inner guilt and feelings of failure, and I was choked up myself when I watched it. It was particularly moving because Frank's feelings describe a real-life tragic event, and the script of an agent from 1963 feeling like that is totally believable.  Apparently Petersen told Rene Russo on the quiet to take Clint's hand during the shooting of that scene, even though it was unscripted (the shot of them holding hands was done separately), in the hope that the unexpected intimacy would have an affect on Clint's performance, and it certainly did.   A master stroke by Petersen and screenwriter Jeff Maguire!  

As someone who has been a major supporter of In the Line of Fire , I have to agree with everything that Matt and Lilly just said. That's my favorite scene from In the Line of Fire and it may be my favorite scene in all of Eastwood. It's definitely one of his best (in my opinion) and that monologue is fabulous. When people tell me that Clint can't act, sometimes I tell them to go watch that scene because it's just so great, and it really does have some of Clint's best acting on display right there in that short scene.
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: Lilly on January 21, 2003, 11:30:18 PM
 :D Amen Aka!
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When people tell me that Clint can't act, sometimes I tell them to go watch that scene
Me too!  I'm tired of people saying that Clint is only good at squinting and shooting people.  I advise them to watch that scene, or Bridges, which prove his wider ability.
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: KC on January 22, 2003, 01:01:50 AM
Answers to Tuesday's tags ... coming up!  :)


KC: If you were invited to be on a talk-show and have a one-on-one debate with Patrick McGilligan, what would you ask/say to him?
AKA didn't like my answer to a McGilligan question, and you probably won't like this one any better, but I think I'd decline to appear on the show. Partly because I'm not adept at public speaking and I don't think I could hold my own in circumstances like that, especially not on TV, and partly because I wouldn't want to give the book any more publicity ... But if the show were going to go on with or without me, I think the most credible opponent for McGilligan in such a debate would be one of Clint's many co-workers on all levels of his productions who have expressed their unrestrained enthusiasm for his professionalism and his artistry.


KC : Have you ever thought of writing a script or some kind of treatment for Eastwood to do in a film? It seems to me as if you've been involved in so many different ways that it wouldn't be such a stretch for you to try to work on a script. Do you or have you in the past ever had any ideas that  you felt might work for Clint? Have you just never thought about it?
Can't say that I ever have, AKA. I'm not a writer ... like a lot of people, now and then I have ideas that I think I'd like to see on the screen (or in a book), but I've never worked at turning them into anything like a script or a novel. About the only idea I ever had with regard to Eastwood was that he could play a part in, and direct, a Western version of a German novella I like a lot, Michael Kohlhaas, by Heinrich von Kleist. Though he'd have been great as the title character a couple of decades ago, he'd be a bit old now to play him (an honest merchant who starts a private war to avenge a minor injustice done to him by a nobleman), but he might take a smaller role. However, that's now moot, as somebody else had the same idea a couple of years back and made the film without Clint: The Jack Bull, a TV film from 1999 (screenplay by the father of the Cusack clan, Dick Cusack; starring John Cusack; directed by John Badham).


KC : If Clint has to play a Jack Nicholson character would you like to see him do " terms of endearment" or " as good as it gets" ??? And why ?????
I have to decline this one, Palm. I don't care for Nicholson and for me he's a good reason not to see a particular film. I haven't seen either of the ones you mention.


I only answered two questions, so I owe three tags. Here you go:

Agent:  If you could start over and go into the profession of any character Clint plays, what would you be doing now?
Matt:  If you were told you had to move from Florida to the locale of an Eastwood film ... but you got to pick which one ... where would you go?
Daisy:  Loved your answer to my Where Eagles Dare question. Let's say you had a chance to play a part in Tightrope. Would you rather be Beryl ... or Sarita? ;)
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: Gant on January 22, 2003, 01:47:35 AM
A difficult question AKA...  What changes would I make to Eastwood's Firefox to improve it.....

It has been a while since I read Craig Thomas's book but I do remember enjoying it and as you say I did find the film dissapointing.
I have given this question some thought over the years and my first reaction would have been to shorten all that lengthy exposition at the beginning. Tighten the whole movie up. Fasten the pace, get to the action a lot quicker, have a lot more action.. etc.. Now I'm not so sure.
After lengthy debates on this board I can see that it was obviously Gants  character that attracted Eastwood to the project in the first place. Another flawed hero, so seeing him stumble through all those early scenes in Russia and suffering all that self doubt were important.
From what I remember of the book the film stayed very faithful so I don't think there were any major ommisions that could have improved things. Possibly this was one story that whilst working in print just didnt lend itself to a film adaption.
I know when the DVD is released here in a couple of weeks I'm gonna watch it again. This time I will be concentrating on Eastwoods performance and not just waiting for the action to hot up and the special effects to kick in.

Mmm I don't think I answerd your question too well... I may give this one further thought.

Right... Lilly's question..
I have to convince a non beliver of Eastwood's talents as a directer by showing one of his films. But not Unforgiven.

Not easy as I believe that all of Eastwood's self directed efforts have something different to offer but Unforgiven has it all. I guess it may depend on whom I was trying to impress.

I have used Bridges of Madison County (for a gal) to sway  opinion. Also Bird (for a jazz fan).

I am a big fan of Josey Wales, Honkytonk Man and Tightrope. I think the problem with having only one film to impress with is that Clints directorial talents are not always that obvious to the average film fan. I think sometimes that it is only when discovering the whole body of his work that his abilities shine through.. He is not a flashy or tricksy directer.  
I'd have to try and find a film that showed off all his talents as well as containing a winning performance from himself.

I'm going for Josey Wales..It contains so many great performances and a terrific, moving story.

with Tightrope and Perfect World as back up.

OK.. My questions.

Lilly... Streep is unavailable for Bridges. Who do you cast in her role instead.

Matt.... Please name one actor past or present who you think would have been great teamed up with Clint on screen.

Daisy... I'm sure I heard originaly that Clint was gonna team up with Mel Gibson for Leathal Weapon. Do you think this would have worked.

Philo.... In your opinion which was the best fight from the Every/Any which  films..
(Hey, I've always wonderd what happend to the truck)
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: little_bill on January 22, 2003, 03:31:02 AM
But of course CLINT CAN'T ACT
Thats why he's been in SO many films
Thats why Sergio and Don Thought so much of him
Thats why he was nominated for an academy award
Thats why Time named him the biggest star in the world 1970-1985
 ::)
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: Matt on January 22, 2003, 05:32:59 AM
[tr][td]Matt:  [/td] [td]If you were told you had to move from Florida to the locale of an Eastwood film ... but you got to pick which one ... where would you go?[/td][/tr][tr][/tr]

That's easy.  I miss living in the northeast, and I miss New York City.  I'd move to Coogan's Bluff territory, I think I'd feel a lot more energized and happier there too.

Gant, I'll have to think about your question a little bit, I'll have more time to answer that tonight.

Tagging:  

LITTLE BILL:  What's your favorite line in Unforgiven?

BEN SHOCKLEY:  Why did you choose your user name?  Is Ben Shockley one of your favorite Eastwood characters?  If so, why?

Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: Daisy Abigael on January 22, 2003, 06:05:57 AM
(From Sir Mattric)
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If Clint wanted to take it easy after Mystic River and do another film, but only act in it this time... who would you most like to see direct the film?

Great question.  :) I’ll stick to the living rather than answer with a fantasy wish list (Ford, Hawks, Peckinpah…Sigh :()

I think two of the finest and most interesting young directors now working are:
(http://www.cinemateket.org/2002/bilder/anderson.jpg)
Wes Anderson (Bottle Rocket, Rushmore, The Royal Tenenbaums)

and
(http://www.christophernolan.net/images/nolan_portrait_robinholland.jpg)
Christopher Nolan (Memento, Insomnia).  

Both have used actors of Eastwood’s generation to great effect:  Anderson with James Caan and Gene Hackman; Nolan with Al Pacino.

I think Anderson could use Clint in a funny, quirky but rather touching comedy-drama.  Make use of his facility with lighter material and also tap into his granite face iconic status too.

Nolan would be the perfect director to push Eastwood through a high octane thriller, full of bang up to the minute stylistic touches but also with a full flavoured realism and intellect.

I would kill to see either collaboration!  But since the Nolan thriller would be more in-keeping with – and frankly indebted to – Clint’s main body of work; and the Anderson comedy would merely be an interesting diversion – I think I would have to plump for Chris Nolan.

(From AKA23)  
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A guy comes up to you and you're discussing Eastwood, and he casually remarks that he thinks that The Dead Pool is the best Eastwood film that he's done, and that if it's not the best, it's definitely the best out of the Harry series. You tell him that you disagree, and that the man has acted and directed in a lot of films that were better than that. The guy goes "he directs?" HEHE...what do you say to this guy, do you try to convince him of his stupidity in saying that The Dead Pool is the best in the Harry series (this has also happened to me, remember I told you that story Matt?), or do you just go crazy on him for knowing nothing about Eastwood and not even knowing that he directs? HEHE

Well, knowing me, you’d probably expect me to go crazy!   :-[ ;D

But…  I am a teacher by training and vocation and I’d probably relish the challenge.  I’d like to sit this guy down and show him the original Dirty Harry and Sudden Impact.  I’d like to contrast Clint’s directorial efforts from Play Misty.. to Unforgiven.  I’d point out he won an Oscar for that!  ;)

Honestly, a guy like this must have had a pretty narrow exposure to films of the last fifty years and I’d envy him one thing – he gets to see all these greats for the first time.  What an exciting privilege!  :D

After everything, if he still thinks The Dead Pool is the best film Clint has ever made:  then I’d go crazy on him! With a marrow!
(http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:xZdoUf_NOVEC:worthgardens.homestead.com/files/2002Hort/Misc_veg/WGS_2002_S5-54_Heaviest_marrow.jpg)

Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: Agent on January 22, 2003, 10:22:08 AM
Agent, what is the job? ;D

Something that you'd enjoy doing (I mean, you applied for it!).  ;D
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: mgk on January 22, 2003, 10:28:30 AM
 :)
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MGK : Sometimes there are films that have the ability to touch us or profoundly affect us in one way or another. Some people may call them "life changing" film experiences, but I'm not really sure that your experience with a film can really change your life. Have you ever had that kind of experience with an Eastwood film? If so, what film was that, and why did it have such a profound effect on you? What was that effect?                                                      


AKA, none of Eastwood's films have had a "life changing" effect on me.  A couple of his films have had an effect on my perception of Eastwood as a filmmaker.  I remember seeing Heartbreak Ridge for the first time and, even though this particular movie is not at the top of my list, I can remember walking away from that one realizing that he was not just some western or action hero but was a total filmmaker who was willing to portray a vulnerability that we fans had not seen in him before.

And, High Plains Drifter stands out as a ground-breaking film that presented the western from a completely different point of view.  Instead of being the typical western where the good guys always wore white hats, this film emphasized the good and evil in each and every character and that was new to the western.


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MGK : If there is one song from Elvis that you may sing for Clint, which one would it be
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 ;D Palm, believe me, Clint does not want to hear me sing an Elvis song or any other song for that matter.  But, if I were to choose an Elvis song that I thought was fitting to be sung to Eastwood, it would be My Way, made famous by Frank Sinatra.

Conan: What do you think is the best opening scene in any Eastwood film?

Philo:  Other than Unforgiven, what do you think was Eastwood's best directorial effort?

Lilly:  Which Eastwood movie do you think has the most beautiful scenery?

mgk
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: Agent on January 22, 2003, 11:23:46 AM
Agent: If you could start over and go into the profession of any character Clint plays, what would you be doing now?
Guess I’d choose to be Dave Garver, radio DJ. Just a laid-back life, playing jazz tunes at night for the public, living care-free on the west coast with no worries (except maybe for psychotic girlfriends).

Agent,I really want you to answer that question.What about you re-watch the movie and answer later?
Okay, I’ll keep an eye out for the next time that movie is played on one of the cable stations. I can’t guarantee though if I can come back with a timely answer, depending on when it’s aired.

Agent:If you were in charge of picking five films for our Eastwood 2003 Convention, which five would you choose?

That’d be very tough, but I’d try to be diverse, and do them chronologically:

The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly - okay, okay, Leone should get some credit.
Dirty Harry – gotta include this one.
Thunderbolt and Lightfoot – we could have a “no-way/gay” debate afterwards.
Escape from Alcatraz – his last film with Siegel
Unforgiven – I’d probably get stoned if I didn’t include this one.


Alrighty:

Matt: Difficult scenario: You’re dining at the Hog’s Breath Inn while passing through Carmel, but unfortunately you’ve been having the “runs” lately, and the meal you’re eating causes your sensitive stomach to react, requiring your immediate attention. However, as you rise to your feet, Clint suddenly walks in for just a moment to say hello to some of the staff. Here’s your opportunity to meet him and perhaps even get his autograph, but doing so will mean certain disaster (and embarrassment). But you won’t get another chance like this again. What do you choose to do?


Philo: Do you feel Andy Robinson’s role as “Scorpio” in Dirty Harry helped his career, or actually hurt it (being forever stereotyped)?


Conan: You’re about to be married to your dream girl, she’s everything you’ve always wanted in a woman – the perfect match with beauty and brains. Except for one thing - she doesn’t like Clint Eastwood and demands you get rid of every single Eastwood movie in your collection. Also, you’re prohibited from ever watching any Clint film after you’re married…..or the wedding’s off for good. What will you do?

[glow=lime green,2,300]Little_Bill:[/glow] You’ve just found out you’ve got a terminal disease, and have a very short time to live. During the last few hours of life in your hospital bed, you’re offered to view any Eastwood film of your choice. Which one would you choose?
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Post by: Conan on January 22, 2003, 11:32:22 AM

Conan: What do you think is the best opening scene in any Eastwood film?


  Thats tough because Clint has so many good intros to his movies, his westerns seem to have the best ones though.
  I'm torn between "Fistfull of Dollars" and "The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly".  I guess if I had to choose, it would be the former, since it was the first of the Dollars trilogy that I ever saw and my jaw just dropped at how cool Clint was..."My mule don't like people laughing, he gets the crazy idea your laughing at him..."  You know the rest :)

  Well, I now need to do four tags.  I'll get to them when I get a chance.
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Post by: Conan on January 22, 2003, 11:39:32 AM

Conan: You’re about to be married to your dream girl, she’s everything you’ve always wanted in a woman – the perfect match with beauty and brains. Except for one thing - she doesn’t like Clint Eastwood and demands you get rid of every single Eastwood movie in your collection. Also, you’re prohibited from ever watching any Clint film after you’re married…..or the wedding’s off for good. What will you do?


  If she has a good reason, like she was emotionally scarred for life while a Clint movie was playing in the background or Clint reminds her of her abusive father or something.  Its weird, but I would go with it.
  If she doesn't like him for no good reason...Well, if she's my dream girl in every other way then I would still go with it.  Sorry, but the dating scene is getting rather tiring these days.

  Whoa, six tags now...
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Post by: Aline on January 22, 2003, 01:09:11 PM
From Palm:
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How long have you been an Eastwood fan?

I became a Clint fan about 10 years ago after watch Coogan's Bluff on TV.I was 13 years old.So I started looking for him on everything I read.And when I read his biography and watched others his films,I couldn't stop anymore.
My father was a Clint fan too but on the contrary some people think, it was him(my father) that became a fan because of me.It was great watching Clint movies with my father.He died four years ago.I feel sorry for he is missing so many good movies.

KC,Xichado made great choices but it's hard to me say which kind of movie I'd like those actors made with Clint.It would have to be something according to Clint style,like a police or suspense movie.

I also would add Ana Paula Arósio an actress I like very much

(http://www.plug-in.com.br/~seko/arosio007.jpg)

and Tarcísio Meira, another great brasilian actor.Unfortunately I couldn't think a good picture of him but he is wonderful,as handsome and talented as Clint.

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Post by: Palm on January 22, 2003, 03:45:02 PM
KC : if you haven't seen Nicholson's work " you haven't been out much have you" ??? ;D ;D
Now i feel sorry i asked you that question..... :'(
I personaly think he has done some great movies, he was fabulous in Cuckoo's nest and in Terms of endearment.  ;)

To answer KC's tag on which Dutch city is most suitable for a police film the answer is easy : Amsterdam !!!!
It is a very good city to film because the life there is so completely different than in any other big city i know in Holland. Imagine doing a boat chase in the canals  8)

Daisy : I am sorry about the Kincaid truck joke, i meant it to be for D'ambrosia (i guess) sometimes i lose track and for many of you who are in bright daylight now, just remember it's bedtime over here...... ;D

KC : (i'll make it up to you) Which genre of film that Clint has never done would you like to see him do a film about ????

Daisy (I'll make it up to you too) Which female character did you like most in any of Clint's films and why ?????

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Post by: Matt on January 22, 2003, 04:50:55 PM
Matt: Difficult scenario: You’re dining at the Hog’s Breath Inn while passing through Carmel, but unfortunately you’ve been having the “runs” lately, and the meal you’re eating causes your sensitive stomach to react, requiring your immediate attention. However, as you rise to your feet, Clint suddenly walks in for just a moment to say hello to some of the staff. Here’s your opportunity to meet him and perhaps even get his autograph, but doing so will mean certain disaster (and embarrassment). But you won’t get another chance like this again. What do you choose to do?

 :o I think the men on this board are getting even with me for the sins of my youth.  What is it about me having to choose between meeting Clint or eliminating bodily waste?   First I get the urinal question, now this one.   ;D

Well.......  it's not a difficult question.  A man has GOT to know his limitations.  There's no way... NO way I'd choose to meet Clint at the expense of that... I'd have to miss out again.  :'(

I almost feel sorry for myself, and this was only a hypothetical situation.  Sure hope this isn't a foreboding of something I'll have to deal with someday. :-\

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Post by: AKA23 on January 22, 2003, 05:14:13 PM
:o I think the men on this board are getting even with me for the sins of my youth.

AKA: WHAT?! What sins are you talking about?
Matt: Let's drop it all right
AKA: No. I'd like to know what sins he's referring to!

So, what were these sins?? Mat commit sins? NO, I don't believe it! We all do to some extent I suppose, but not our Matt! You mean he wasn't always this perfect? I'm shocked. I need to know about these sins!
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Post by: Daisy Abigael on January 22, 2003, 06:09:20 PM
From Palm:
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Which female character did you like most in any of Clint's films and why?

(http://www.suzyvaughan.com/ruthgordonth2x2.jpg)
Senovia 'Ma' Boggs

Why?  Because she is played by the inimitable Ruth Gordon.  Screenwriter and actress - she began her film career in 1915! :o

The Cyde movies aren't her best - the wonderful Harold and Maude (1971) is that - but she is such a character!  She really gives Clint a hard time. :D

She died in 1985 at the age of 88.
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Post by: Matt on January 22, 2003, 07:15:31 PM
Matt.... Please name one actor past or present who you think would have been great teamed up with Clint on screen.

I'd say Harrison Ford.  He's a favorite of mine, and I think they'd really complement each other well onscreen.  I also have a feeling that Clint and Harrison would hit it off well off camera too.  And imagine how their pairing would do at the box office:

(http://home.swfla.rr.com/mattreigns/insideoutposter.jpg)

I'd like to see Clint with other big name actors.  His performance opposite Malkovich in In the Line of Fire and the tremendous box office that film did proved that Clint can still bring in the crowds, but he should surround himself with other well known actors at this point in his career.
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Post by: Brendan on January 22, 2003, 07:27:28 PM
Treat Williams would co-star? Ah man. :-\
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Post by: Matt on January 22, 2003, 07:48:01 PM
I have no idea who Treat Williams is.  I was more impressed with the writing credits (third line down).  ;D
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Post by: AKA23 on January 22, 2003, 07:50:53 PM
WOW Matt. That's some interesting artwork there! :)

That might be an interesting pairing. I agree with your analysis, though Harrison Ford is another one of those actors who really has not had a good movie in awhile, and seems to be choosing all of the wrong projects. I haven't seen his latest one, but the last good performance in a decent movie by him was Air Force One and even that wasn't that great. Random Hearts was one of the most boring movies that I have ever seen. It was truly terrible.
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Post by: AKA23 on January 22, 2003, 07:54:48 PM

I'd like to see Clint with other big name actors.  His performance opposite Malkovich in In the Line of Fire and the tremendous box office that film did proved that Clint can still bring in the crowds, but he should surround himself with other well known actors at this point in his career.

Amen Matt! I totally agree! I missed that part of your post at first, but I just now saw it, and I completely and totally agree with that! :) I'd love to see Clint acting with some more big name actors! Imagine the possibilities! There are a lot of great big name actors that Clint hasn't worked with, and I'd love to see him work with some of them in upcoming projects. I don't know if it will happen though, sadly :(
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Post by: KC on January 22, 2003, 08:00:58 PM
Clint would definitely be an improvement over Brad Pitt in almost any movie I can think of that Pitt's been in!  :P  ;D

Well, maybe not Thelma and Louise ...  ;)
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Post by: KC on January 22, 2003, 08:36:11 PM
That's easy.  I miss living in the northeast, and I miss New York City.  I'd move to Coogan's Bluff territory, I think I'd feel a lot more energized and happier there too.
[td]You sure? It's [/td][td]THIRTEEN  [/td][td] :o degrees here just now ... on the way down to the single digits.[/td][/table]
Hasn't been above freezing in a week and a half.

But ... it'd be nice to have you in the neighborhood. ;)
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Post by: Brendan on January 22, 2003, 08:41:04 PM
Its colder here KC. Got into the -20's this week.
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Post by: Matt on January 22, 2003, 08:49:06 PM
[td]You sure? It's [/td][td]THIRTEEN  [/td][td] :o degrees here just now ... on the way down to the single digits.[/td][/table]



It's going down to the 20's here tonight, so it's not that much worse up there.   I don't miss the weather, but I miss the "feel" of the city and the kind of people that live in the Northeast.  I think I've been here too long... sunsets over the Gulf are nothing now.  I'd just love a good street pretzel and the smell of the city street.   I'd prefer to be in Philly than NYC, but Clint's never done a film there.  


TAG TIME:

CONAN:   Who's your favorite of Clint's co-stars in the spaghetti westerns?  Why?

mgk:  What product could you imagine Clint endorsing on television?
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Post by: Conan on January 22, 2003, 08:59:36 PM

CONAN:   Who's your favorite of Clint's co-stars in the spaghetti westerns?  Why?


  Van Cleef and Eli Wallach are both excellent, and any other day I would normally choose of the those two.  But right now, man I'm thinking Gian Maria Volonté as Indio.  He's crazy; just nuts.  It would have been easy for someone to overact in that role or just not capture the insanity like he does.  Indo beats Van Cleef's two characters and Tuco, at least for now.  Ask me again in a few weeks and you may get a different answer.

  Yea, its cold here as well.  I just did a Food Lion run (they are next door) and about froze.

  8 tags, tag-apalooza coming up....
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Post by: Matt on January 22, 2003, 09:02:56 PM
Couldn't agree more.  I love Van Cleef and Wallach, but I'm always completely blown away by Gian Maria Volonte as Indio.  He's my favorite villain, not only in Eastwood, but of all time.   :D
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Post by: Brendan on January 22, 2003, 09:06:51 PM
Speaking of villians Matt, wheres that Eastwood Villian Survivor thingy you told me about a few months back?
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Post by: Matt on January 22, 2003, 09:21:48 PM
There's enough "Survivor" on the board these days.  
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Post by: Brendan on January 22, 2003, 09:24:54 PM
 :-[ heh heh, yah, really. :-[

Anyway, back to this topic....
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Post by: Conan on January 22, 2003, 09:27:55 PM
Here are the tags I owe, accumulated in one day  :o

Doug Replace Tyne Daly's character in "The Enforcer" with another actress.

Nightwing Eastwood wants to you to be in one of his movies, as a stuntman who has to jump out of a flaming car traveling at 30 MPH into a huge area of sticker bushes and poison ivy.  The pay is crap, but your in an Eastwood movie.  Do you do it?

Matt Eastwood asks you, "Do I do a final western or not?"  He claims he has one more good one, "Unforgiven" quality, left in him.

Daisy Your Eastwood's buddy for a day, where do you take him and what do you do?   Your friends, nothing more :)

Christopher Eastwood just released his own brand of cologne (Eastwood Essence), but it smells like ass and he asks you what you think.  Are you brutally honest with him?

Palm Who is the worst actress to appear in an Eastwood movie?

Agent Clint has decided to rerelease "Paint Your Wagon", but he has to replace all of Lee Marvin's singing because its so bad that its illegal in some states.  Continuity and plot-flow be damned, Clint has decided to splice in anyone of your choosing to sing.  Who?

Aline Your buying a gift for Clint's birthday, he loves gifts that are somehow related to his films.  What do you choose?

  Some of these are lame I admit.  Sorry, running out of ideas :)
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Post by: Brendan on January 22, 2003, 09:33:25 PM
Nightwing Eastwood wants to you to be in one of his movies, as a stuntman who has to jump out of a flaming car traveling at 30 MPH into a huge area of sticker bushes and poison ivy.  The pay is crap, but your in an Eastwood movie.  Do you do it?

  Some of these are lame I admit.  Sorry, running out of ideas :)

As long as Im wearing the proper clothing and stunt gear, I;d have no problem doing it. But if I wasnt wearing the proper gear then NO!!!!!!

And I know what you mean about running out of ideas. Thats why I ask stupid questions, becuase everyone else asks the good ones, and I hate to repeat questions.

Matt - If Playboy offered you to be the photographer for Allisons shoot, would you do it? But there is one exception, Clint gets to monitor you and watch your every move.

Daisy Abigael - If you got choosen for the next Bio-Dome project and could only take three Eastwood DVD's with you, which ones would they be?
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Post by: Matt on January 22, 2003, 09:55:47 PM
Matt - If Playboy offered you to be the photographer for Allisons shoot, would you do it? But there is one exception, Clint gets to monitor you and watch your every move.

Sure!   :D  But I'd rather be the iceman.   You know I'd be UP for the job.  ;D

(Anyone who's seen the pictures will know what I'm talking about.  And no "The Iceman Cometh" jokes.  ;) )

Matt Eastwood asks you, "Do I do a final western or not?"  He claims he has one more good one, "Unforgiven" quality, left in him.

Absolutely!  If Clint thinks he's got a top quality western left in him, I definitely want to see it.  Go ahead, Clint.  Make my day! :)

I owe tags again...

[shadow=purple,left,300]D'Ambrosia: [/shadow]  If you've seen Alison's Playboy spread, what do you think Clint thinks of her doing it?

[shadow=red,left,300]KC:[/shadow]  What's your least favorite scene in all of Eastwood?  

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Post by: KC on January 22, 2003, 11:22:39 PM
KC : (i'll make it up to you) Which genre of film that Clint has never done would you like to see him do a film about ????
I don't know, maybe a children's film? We had a thread about that on the old Board a few years back. Clint is so good with child actors, as he's demonstrated in Tightrope, A Perfect World and True Crime, for example ... As I recall, one of the members at the time, a Canadian, had a particular Canadian kid's book in mind, but I don't remember which one.

Needless to say, it would have to be a kid's film that also appeals to adults.

[shadow=red,left,300]KC:[/shadow]  What's your least favorite scene in all of Eastwood?  
Hmm, as I just mentioned in another thread ... I really don't like these ranking things. There are a number of scenes I don't like, some of 'em I wish he had left out altogether, some I just wish had been done differently. But to choose a "least favorite" is asking a lot. Maybe, if I had to pick one, the "gold lamé jacket" scene in Pink Cadillac. Just can't stand him in those threads! ;)

OK, new tags.

Philo:  If Clint had decided to make the "Which Way " movies with some animal OTHER than an orang-utan ... which species do you think would have been suitable in Clyde's role?
D'Ambrosia:  If a younger Clint were doing an updated, modern-day version of one of the Spaghetti westerns, what kind of car should he drive?
little_bill:  I assume your namesake is your favorite Eastwood "villain." Who's your second favorite?
mgk:  You answered one question about showing Eastwood films to a class of young kids. I'm curious to know what you think specifically about Unforgiven: How old do you think a young person should be before viewing this one for the first time ... taking into account the language, the violence, and the mature reflection the subject matter seems to require of thoughtful spectators?
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Post by: KC on January 22, 2003, 11:41:38 PM
I just realized  posted one more new tag than I needed to!  :o

Oh well, I'll just have to post one fewer next time ...   ;)
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Post by: Matt on January 22, 2003, 11:43:41 PM
Maybe, if I had to pick one, the "gold lamé jacket" scene in Pink Cadillac. Just can't stand him in those threads! ;)

Too much raw dude for ya, huh babe?  ;D ;)

I'll try not to tag you with any more "ranking" questions.   :-X
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Post by: Gant on January 23, 2003, 01:10:30 AM
Hey Matt... I just checked out your Harrison Ford/Eastwood pairing. Excellent stuff. Can you imagine the buzz if that poster started appearing round town.

I think it was Roger Corman who used to get the poster art designed and ready before he shot the picture.. maybe not a bad idea.

I would love to  have seen Clint paired in a movie with Burt Lancaster.. don't ask me why. I just think it would've been great seeing those two act together.
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Post by: davytriumph on January 23, 2003, 01:25:52 AM
Reply to Matt - How long have I been an Eastwood fan and what was the first thing I saw with Eastwood in it?

I have been an ardent fan of the big guy since 1974 when I saw him in the re-release of "Where Eagles Dare",  then the following week after that I caught "Kelly`s Heroes" on re-release in the same theatre.  I was hooked.


Return Tag Questions (two of?)

I don`t know if these members are still posting, but here goes -

Harley -

If you could have advised Clint not to make a certain film and make a different one instead, from the SAME YEAR, what would those films be?
i.e Don`t make "Magnum Force" - make "The Sting" instead.


Ben Shockley -

What is your favourite ending of an Eastwood film?

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Post by: Conan on January 23, 2003, 07:40:12 AM
"If you are tagged more than once in the same day, instead of tagging two more members, you should only tag ONE member per question you answer for the remainder of that day."

  I forgot about this rule, oops.
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Post by: little_bill on January 23, 2003, 08:32:22 AM

Tagging:  

LITTLE BILL:  What's your favorite line in Unforgiven?


i'd have to say it's the
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it's a terrible thing to kill a man,
takin away everything he ever had, and everything he ever will

forgive me if it's not 100%
thats the best that i can remember
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Post by: mgk on January 23, 2003, 09:44:09 AM
 :)
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Tag from Matt: mgk:  What product could you imagine Clint endorsing on television?


Clint could have easily been the Marlboro Man back when cigarettes were still advertised on television.  But, since they aren't, I can see Clint advertising one of the "big, tough" pickup trucks we see all the time.  Or, he could be the spokesman for Hummers that are now beginning to appear in ads.  He could also advertise his own Tehama Golf Clothes.

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Tag from KC:  You answered one question about showing Eastwood films to a class of young kids. I'm curious to know what you think specifically about Unforgiven: How old do you think a young person should be before viewing this one for the first time ... taking into account the language, the violence, and the mature reflection the subject matter seems to require of thoughtful spectators?

The answer really depends on whether you are letting the young person watch it for entertainment or you want them to really understand what the film is about.  Understanding the movie will depend on the maturity level of the young person.  If you are teaching a high school senior class where ALL of your students fall into that mature category, then showing Unforgiven to them could probably produce an excellent discussion of what that film is really about and most of them would come away from the experience understanding  the messages in that film about the good and evil in every person, that "deserve's got nothin' to do with" what may or may not happen to you in life, etc.  

The thing is...they have all probably seen it outside of the classroom anyway but, most likely, without the benefit of adult supervision and/or participation.  If your school allowed the showing of "R" rated movies, if you have obtained permission from all the parents,  and if you, the teacher, can control of the direction of the discussions, then mature seventeen and eighteen year olds should be able to come away from the experience with a fairly good understanding of the complexities of that film.

Tagging...

Matt:  What do you think the message or messages are in Eastwood's A Perfect World?  What do you think Eastwood wanted us to take away from the film after viewing it?

Gant:  Unforgiven won Clint the Best Director Oscar...what other film do you think he should have won the Oscar for or, at the very least, been nominated?

mgk
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Post by: bdc28 on January 23, 2003, 10:06:30 AM
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bdc28:  WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN, MAN???  I hope you're around soon to play and answer this:  If you could be Clint for a day.... any day of his entire life... which day would you choose?  You might want to pick a day that he shot a particular scene, or something that he's done off camera.  

Hey Matt, you would stick a stipend in my all member tag. I was on the cusp of game greatness Matt!!!

Hmmm, okay, if I could pick a day in Clint Eastwoods life, it would honestly be the day when he was sitting down, before taping FISTFUL OF DOLLARS, trying to conceive how the man with no name was going to move, act, talk, everything. How he envisioned him to be. What he was thinking of the character?

That would be the coolest day in the life of Clint to me.
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Post by: Gant on January 23, 2003, 10:40:09 AM
To answer your question mgk.
I think Eastwood should have at the very least been nominated for Bird. This film should have been the wake up call to the academy that here was a very special talent.
With Bird I think Clint created a quite extraordinary film about a very difficult subject..  ie Charlie Parker and  tricky old Be Bop.
At this time in his career a nomination was long overdue..
I reckon he should also have been nominated for Josey Wales and Honkytonk Man.
Clints filmic statements are nearly always the definitive ones, whatever the subject.
In my opinion anyway..

OK.. just one tag.

KC.... Unforgiven is never made.. Instead Clint goes ahead with plans to make Pink Cadillac 2. Thereafter his career course remains the same. Do you still end up being such a great admirer of his work ?

 
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Post by: MC on January 23, 2003, 11:01:21 AM
Tagging.......

MC:   I agreed with your review of Blood Work; and I've been more than a little vocal about what I didn't like about it and how I thought it could be improved.  What are your feelings on this?  What do you think was the main problem with the film?  Was it the casting?  The script?  A lack of interest and/or effort on Eastwood's part? AKA asked me earlier in this game... now I'll ask you... do you think this film could have been saved, and what changes do you think would have been needed to make this a film of the quality that we're accustomed to from Eastwood?  

Is that too many qauestoins for one tag? Well, MC... welcome back!  Good to see your name on the board again.  I'm just gonna put you right to work. ;D

It's good to be back...

First off, I'd argue that the serial killer thriller genre is completely played out. Ever since Seven, these films have been growing increasingly ridiculous, with the killer inventing more and more elaborate ways to torture his victims and mess with the police (a trend that's satirized in the recent film Adaptation).

This flaw is also readily apparent in Blood Work. I didn't believe for a second that Jeff Daniels, an apparently laid-back beach bum who enjoyed drinking brewskies, was also a demented serial killer who had been cagily outwitting Eastwood's character for years. Perhaps a more accomplished actor could have pulled this transformation off, but it would probably have been difficult for anyone (though Daniels didn't help the cause).

As for the DeJesus-Eastwood romance, I've already stated my feelings that it was lame and detracted from the film. Perhaps a more interesting angle would have been for DeJesus to seduce Eastwood as a means of convincing him to track down her sister's killer. After the killer was disposed of, she could have then dropped the Eastwood character, giving the film a darker shading more in step with the noirish feel Eastwood seemed to be trying to accomplish.

The Rodriguez character is the latest in a troubling trend that's been plaguing Eastwood's more recent efforts: an over-the-top, hammy performance that plagues every scene he or she is in. Perhaps Eastwood thought the contrast of Rodriguez' hyperactive personality and his laid-back cool would make for an interesting contrast. At any rate, it's a major misstep.

Here's some food for thought: In the film, Rodriguez vaguely hints that Eastwood's character used to hog the limelight. This is a fascinating angle that should have been explored for a ton of reasons. Let's say Eastwood's character IS an ass, he loves the attention, maybe he was pandering to the press when he should have been spending more time searching for the serial killer, and Rodriguez -- who was busting his ass on the case -- resented it. Now the Eastwood characterization has been deepened a little, and the script has suggested a real reason for the rift with Rodriguez. Instead of cartoonish rantings, maybe his character has a legitimate beef with Eastwood's. It's just an idea, and it's far from fully realized, but it still seems like an improvement...

In my opinion, in the last five years Eastwood has done a generally poor job of selecting scripts to direct. He seems to be focusing solely on scripts that he feels have a strong character that he can play. In theory, that's fine. The problem, though, is that in concentrating on character he's selected scripts that are often cliched in terms of plot and trapped within genre limitations. If he's going to focus on character studies (which I think is a great direction at this point in his career), he should focus on stories that don't really fit into any genre ("White Hunter, Black Heart") or defy genre expectations ("Unforgiven," "A Perfect World").

Ironically, however, I actually felt the Eastwood character in Blood Work was underwritten. He doesn't really have any flaws, and I don't get enough of a sense of his daily routine and how his heart problems affect it. There's a great scene in Absolute Power when Eastwood's character sets alone and eats dinner. Although brief, it speaks volumes about his character. Scenes like this seem to be missing from Blood Work.

I guess, then, that I really don't think that the film could have been saved unless it was significantly rewritten (I haven't read the book). Ever since Midnight In The Garden Of Good And Evil, it seems like Eastwood's been playing it safe. I'm hoping Mystic River marks a return to the more uncompromising Eastwood that marked him as my favorite filmmaker.
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Post by: MC on January 23, 2003, 11:09:21 AM
And now for my tags:

AKA: What's the worst promoted Eastwood film (including trailer) of the last 10 years, and why? How would you have improved the film's promotion, advertising, etc.?

Matt: You've been selected to supervise the release of a new deluxe special-edition Eastwood DVD. What film do you choose, and what special features do you include?
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Post by: philo on January 23, 2003, 11:26:27 AM

I just want to say that I will answer all my questions as soon as I have the time , please bear with me. I do have the commentary question finished but alas do not have time here to write it up. I will answer this easy one from MGK :


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Philo:   Other than Unforgiven, what do you think was Eastwood's best directorial effort?

Now I am not sure if MGK has made a mistake or is having a bit of fun with me , but I obviously don't consider Unforgiven to be Clint's best directorial film.

I would say that for a debut Misty is strong and well handled . It is without doubt The Outlaw Josey Wales that is his finest film behind the camera . The time it was made it's scope , length etc . it is well directed .


Philo .
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Post by: philo on January 23, 2003, 11:32:41 AM
A couple of questions ....

Conan

Tom Nowak's story continues , how would you do this ?


MGK

What is your favourite photo image from Tightrope ?


Philo .
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Post by: Agent on January 23, 2003, 11:36:45 AM
Agent Clint has decided to rerelease "Paint Your Wagon", but he has to replace all of Lee Marvin's singing because its so bad that its illegal in some states.  Continuity and plot-flow be damned, Clint has decided to splice in anyone of your choosing to sing.  Who?
How about Rod Stewart? He's the only one I can think of that's still around who has a really raspy voice.

Since my answer above was from a question posted yesterday (in which I answered 2 other ones), I think I technically owe only one tag:

Christopher:  You’re settled in your new pad, finally living on your own, when there’s a knock at the door. Standing there is an armed robber demanding you had over at least 3 Eastwood DVDs. Which 3 out of your current DVD collection would you hand over?
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Post by: philo on January 23, 2003, 11:43:43 AM
I just thought I would answer this .

Gant asked:

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Philo.... In your opinion which was the best fight from the Every/Any which  films..

Well it is certainly from the first film and it has to be the mud fight with the Black Widows . A great Morricone music sting and then all hell breaks "loose"


Philo .
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Post by: philo on January 23, 2003, 11:51:01 AM

If I am not supposed to be tagging twice sonebody please tell me .


KC

The trailer for Two mules for Sister Sara claims "The most action packed Clint Eastwood film ever made". At that time agree or disagree ?


Matt

We all know that the marketing for The Beguiled was one of the worst in Eastwood history . What would you have as the tag line on the poster for a 2004 restoration re-release ?


Philo .
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Post by: Conan on January 23, 2003, 12:36:40 PM
A couple of questions ....

Conan

Tom Nowak's story continues , how would you do this ?


  I've always thought I'd at least be an average actor, but one thing I know for sure is that I'd be a terrible screenwriter.  But I'll try, I'm going to be vague since I could go on forever with specifics (dialogue, camera angles/pans, etc...)  Five years after the first "Pink Cadillac", Nowak is vacationing in Malaysia; dragged there by his current girlfriend kicking and screaming.  The Neo-Nazis that Nowak confronted in "Pink Cadillac" have a splinter group in Europe - they waited for him to leave the United States to make their move.  They track him down while he's visiting the Petronas Towers in Kuala Lumpur.  A group of Neo-Nazi thugs grab him and his girlfriend as they are leaving the towers, throw them in a van, and take off....Then the rest of this lame actioner ensues :)

  I over tagged by three or four yesterday, so I won't tag anyone.
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Post by: philo on January 23, 2003, 12:57:37 PM

Sounds good to me .

It was the worst film of that holiday season , so much so that we were not given the chance to see it on the big screen here in the UK .

I have seen worst sequels than Conan's idea made .


Philo .
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Post by: AKA23 on January 23, 2003, 01:53:43 PM
First off, I'd argue that the serial killer thriller genre is completely played out. Ever since Seven, these films have been growing increasingly ridiculous, with the killer inventing more and more elaborate ways to torture his victims and mess with the police (a trend that's satirized in the recent film Adaptation).

This flaw is also readily apparent in Blood Work. I didn't believe for a second that Jeff Daniels, an apparently laid-back beach bum who enjoyed drinking brewskies, was also a demented serial killer who had been cagily outwitting Eastwood's character for years. Perhaps a more accomplished actor could have pulled this transformation off, but it would probably have been difficult for anyone (though Daniels didn't help the cause).

As for the DeJesus-Eastwood romance, I've already stated my feelings that it was lame and detracted from the film. Perhaps a more interesting angle would have been for DeJesus to seduce Eastwood as a means of convincing him to track down her sister's killer. After the killer was disposed of, she could have then dropped the Eastwood character, giving the film a darker shading more in step with the noirish feel Eastwood seemed to be trying to accomplish.

The Rodriguez character is the latest in a troubling trend that's been plaguing Eastwood's more recent efforts: an over-the-top, hammy performance that plagues every scene he or she is in. Perhaps Eastwood thought the contrast of Rodriguez' hyperactive personality and his laid-back cool would make for an interesting contrast. At any rate, it's a major misstep.

Here's some food for thought: In the film, Rodriguez vaguely hints that Eastwood's character used to hog the limelight. This is a fascinating angle that should have been explored for a ton of reasons. Let's say Eastwood's character IS an ass, he loves the attention, maybe he was pandering to the press when he should have been spending more time searching for the serial killer, and Rodriguez -- who was busting his ass on the case -- resented it. Now the Eastwood characterization has been deepened a little, and the script has suggested a real reason for the rift with Rodriguez. Instead of cartoonish rantings, maybe his character has a legitimate beef with Eastwood's. It's just an idea, and it's far from fully realized, but it still seems like an improvement...

In my opinion, in the last five years Eastwood has done a generally poor job of selecting scripts to direct. He seems to be focusing solely on scripts that he feels have a strong character that he can play. In theory, that's fine. The problem, though, is that in concentrating on character he's selected scripts that are often cliched in terms of plot and trapped within genre limitations. If he's going to focus on character studies (which I think is a great direction at this point in his career), he should focus on stories that don't really fit into any genre ("White Hunter, Black Heart") or defy genre expectations ("Unforgiven," "A Perfect World").

Ironically, however, I actually felt the Eastwood character in Blood Work was underwritten. He doesn't really have any flaws, and I don't get enough of a sense of his daily routine and how his heart problems affect it. There's a great scene in Absolute Power when Eastwood's character sets alone and eats dinner. Although brief, it speaks volumes about his character. Scenes like this seem to be missing from Blood Work.

I guess, then, that I really don't think that the film could have been saved unless it was significantly rewritten (I haven't read the book). Ever since Midnight In The Garden Of Good And Evil, it seems like Eastwood's been playing it safe. I'm hoping Mystic River marks a return to the more uncompromising Eastwood that marked him as my favorite filmmaker.

MC, it's really great to have you back! Welcome back man! I'd really have to say that I agree with nearly everything that you said there. I'd argue that you're correct about the serial killer genre, but that it could have still really worked. There are conventions of the genre, and it is a bit played out, but with a good cast and a good script, it could have still been really good, and Clint hasn't really done a real psychological thriller in that vein. The closest to that was In the Line of Fire , and that film was very good. Part of the problem as I see it is the complete lack of that torture, that sinister attitude, that relationship with the hunter and the hunted. It wasn't there. The cat and mouse game was implied, but it wasn't even shown. As we saw in In the Line of Fire , if that kind of thing is done effectively, it can really work, and it wasn't done effectively. Not only was Daniels a very poor choice for the killer, in my opinion, but his whole character was completely underwritten. There wasn't any development to this guy. There wasn't any development with any of the characters in that movie, and that was one of the major problems with it.  

The Rodriguez character was absolutely terrible. I don't know if your suggestion would have improved things, but it would have given Eastwood a more complex character, and if Rodriguez was played more as a serious investigator with legitimate reasons for his feelings towards McCaleb, I think that would have definitely played better. As it stands, that entire character portrayal was completely inaproppriate, and detracted from the film every time he was on the screen. His character lacked legitimacy.

As far as his choices recently, again I agree with you. I've said the same thing myself a few times before. Eastwood has been trying to find interesting characters to play, and I think for the most part he's succeeded, but he's capable of so much more. If Blood Work would have been up to the caliber of an Absolute Power or True Crime I still would have been happy though. I think another problem is that I'd really love to see him work with some really big name actors, and see how he plays off of them. I think that could be really interesting, and I bet there are tons of actors that would work with him if he asked. Anthony Hopkins in particular said he would love to work with Clint! How cool would that be? Where's the film for that? I want to see that film! Clint Eastwood and Anthony Hopkins! WOW!
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Post by: AKA23 on January 23, 2003, 02:06:42 PM

AKA: What's the worst promoted Eastwood film (including trailer) of the last 10 years, and why? How would you have improved the film's promotion, advertising, etc.?

This may seem difficult, but I think the answer is quite simple: True Crime . Now, to be fair, ten years ago I was only 8 or 9 years old, so I think it would be fair to say that I wasn't really paying attention to the advertising (or lack thereof) for Eastwood films. If you asked me about the advertising for Unforgiven I wouldn't have a clue, because I don't even remember one single advertisement for that film. I think several of Eastwood's films of late have been marketed poorly. Apart from Space Cowboys , and perhaps Blood Work (I don't know because I wasn't here) all of his films have not been marketed spectacularly. I do remember True Crime , and I think that was really done poorly. I remember seeing a commercial during the Superbowl about it, but other than that, I don't really remember any kind of sustained advertising campaign for the film. I remember seeing the trailer in the theater, and that was it. Not only was there little or no promotion of the film, but I think the film was marketed wrong. The trailer for True Crime marketed the film wrong. It made it seem like this was going to be a really action packed, suspenseful and tense race against the clock Eastwood thriller. That wasn't what True Crime was about. I would have actually done advertising for the film, had television commercials, had a teaser trailer so people knew that True Crime was coming up (like most films do, but most Eastwood films don't) and devised a better trailer that really sold the good points about the film, and even though it may have been less exciting, it would have been more faithful to the film. For most people, I don't think that trailer would have gotten people into the seats. I think people going into True Crime were expecting something totally different than what was on the screen. The film shown was not the same film advertised.
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Post by: Brendan on January 23, 2003, 02:09:59 PM
I agree with ya there AKA23. I remember watching the trailer on the DVD, and when it was done, I was like, 'what the frick was that?, thats not True Crime.'
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Post by: mgk on January 23, 2003, 03:04:30 PM
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From Philo:  Now I am not sure if MGK has made a mistake or is having a bit of fun with me ,

Actually, I just meant that Eastwood's only Oscar for directing was for Unforgiven so what would you choose as another movie that he should have gotten an Oscar for...I really wasn't pulling your leg...at least, not on purpose. ;D

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MGK

From Philo: What is your favourite photo image from Tightrope ?

Here are two of my favorite images from Tightrope.
I like the photograph of Beryl offering her hands up for Wes to handcuff because of the obvious insinuations ;) but I also like what she is telling him...which, in my opinion,  is "I trust you."

Of course, I like the other photo because it has all of Wes' "family" members and shows the love that exists in their "family."

(http://www.cox-internet.com/mgkwebpage/Tightrope%20pic.jpg)(http://www.cox-internet.com/mgkwebpage/Tightrope%20pic2.jpg)

Tagging.....

bdc: What is your favorite movie from each decade Clint has been making films?  (You can skip the 1950s if you would like to.)

D'Amb:  Is there any quote from an Eastwood movie that you like to use occasionally with your friends?

mgk
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Post by: MC on January 23, 2003, 03:44:06 PM
This may seem difficult, but I think the answer is quite simple: True Crime . Now, to be fair, ten years ago I was only 8 or 9 years old, so I think it would be fair to say that I wasn't really paying attention to the advertising (or lack thereof) for Eastwood films. If you asked me about the advertising for Unforgiven I wouldn't have a clue, because I don't even remember one single advertisement for that film. I think several of Eastwood's films of late have been marketed poorly. Apart from Space Cowboys , and perhaps Blood Work (I don't know because I wasn't here) all of his films have not been marketed spectacularly. I do remember True Crime , and I think that was really done poorly. I remember seeing a commercial during the Superbowl about it, but other than that, I don't really remember any kind of sustained advertising campaign for the film. I remember seeing the trailer in the theater, and that was it. Not only was there little or no promotion of the film, but I think the film was marketed wrong. The trailer for True Crime marketed the film wrong. It made it seem like this was going to be a really action packed, suspenseful and tense race against the clock Eastwood thriller. That wasn't what True Crime was about. I would have actually done advertising for the film, had television commercials, had a teaser trailer so people knew that True Crime was coming up (like most films do, but most Eastwood films don't) and devised a better trailer that really sold the good points about the film, and even though it may have been less exciting, it would have been more faithful to the film. For most people, I don't think that trailer would have gotten people into the seats. I think people going into True Crime were expecting something totally different than what was on the screen. The film shown was not the same film advertised.

Great comments on both Blood Work and True Crime. As I've mentioned before, True Crime is not one of my favorites, but I'd add the following regarding the film's miserable promotional campaign:

1) The print ads were terrible. The lead quote was, "A true potboiler." Wow! What a ringing endorsement! That's the worst lead quote I've seen in a movie print ad, ever. Not only is it painfully boring, but "potboiler" isn't even a complimentary term. Brutal.

2) I think they missed a huge opportunity in failing to champion Isaiah Washington's performance. Washington, a veteran of numerous Spike Lee films, gave a brilliant performance that was universally acclaimed. A little creative thinking might have really expanded the film's audience. But instead his performance was completely ignored (James Woods was the only other costar mentioned in the print ads).

I remember reading an interview with Washington before the film came out, and he was saying that the film was really going to shake people up with what it had to say about the death penalty. Instead, we were told that it was a "real potboiler." Zzzzzzzzz...
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Post by: Daisy Abigael on January 23, 2003, 05:44:44 PM
Loved your answer to my Where Eagles Dare question. Let's say you had a chance to play a part in Tightrope. Would you rather be Beryl ... or Sarita?

Hmm...  I'd have to plump for Beryl - (although I'd change my name by Deed Poll! ;D) - but I'd invest in some fur-lined handcuffs! :o

From Nighty:
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If you got choosen for the next Bio-Dome project and could only take three Eastwood DVD's with you, which ones would they be?

Well I'd have to get a DVD player first... :-[

But I know what you're saying. :)

Three makes it easy really - rather thn say six or seven how would I choose?  I'd stick to the classics.

A Fistful of Dollars
His first starring role.  The grounding of the Eastwood legend.  The start of everything.

Dirty Harry
The mature Eastwood at the peak of his fame and power. Don Siegel's masterpiece.  A truly great thriller.

Where Eagles Dare
Still more fun than most films I care to think about.  A great girl's own adventure.  And for the sheer nostalgia - my first Clint movie up there on the big screen, four years old... 8)
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Post by: william on January 23, 2003, 07:29:10 PM
To answer Agents' question about a choice between allot of money for a job or a chance to maybe co-star in an Eastwood movie I would have to take the big paycheck instead of the fame since I am too not into Hollywood that much.  :-\
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Post by: KC on January 23, 2003, 08:42:17 PM
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Quote from: Matt on January 22, 2003, 07:32:59 AM    
Tagging:  

LITTLE BILL:  What's your favorite line in Unforgiven?

i'd have to say it's the

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it's a terrible thing to kill a man,
takin away everything he ever had, and everything he ever will

forgive me if it's not 100%
thats the best that i can remember

That's the gist of it ... it's actually
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It's a hell of a thing, killin' a man. You take away all he's got, and all he's ever gonna have.

You'll find a RealAudio file on p. 5 of the "Audio Clips" section of this site!  :D
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Post by: Doug on January 23, 2003, 09:15:59 PM

Doug : Which Clint movie you watch and feel same emotion,don't matter how many times you watch it?

Well, there's a few I've only seen twice, so they don't count.  I might say Honkytonk Man, as I remember when that first came on HBO I watched it about six times that month and was always engrossed.  (Can you believe I haven't seen it since. :-[)  But the easy choice could be Unforgiven.   Of course, I haven't seen it as many times as say Dirty Harry, so it's a bit understandable that I've seen Dirty Harry one or twice when I really wasn't in the right mood for it.  As for Unforgiven my appreaciation and understanding has grown, but the basic emotional response is the same each time I see it.  Usually my emotional response to any of his movies stays the same over time, but occassionally I watch a movie in the wrong mood, and I find myself nitpicking it to death rather than enjoying it.   Good question.


Doug: If Clint decided to continue directing, but act in only one more film, in which genre would you like that film to be?

One last acting role...  I think I'd like to see him in a non-genre movie actually, one that allows him to give a broad performance, and who knows, maybe get another acting nomination.  He's shown he can do the complicated, troubled artist (Honkeytonk Man, White Hunter Black Heart) so maybe he could be play the aging pianist, dealing with ...  Well, something like that.  Or else maybe a suspense movie, the way suspense movies used to be made.  He could be that aging pianist in Europe, and he sees a man murder someone and now he's being stalked by the murderer...  But something clever, well-written, with good depth... something marketed as a drama with the suspense as only part of the story.  It could even have a finale where Clint can be Clint ... for one last time.  :'(

Doug Replace Tyne Daly's character in "The Enforcer" with another actress.

Just for nightwing, I got Julie Newmar.  Wouldn't that have been interesting.  Dirty Harry teams up with Catwoman!  Actually, she probably could have pulled it off.  Uhh, or something like that. :)
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Post by: Doug on January 23, 2003, 10:02:30 PM
Okay, I thought up the five questions I owe...

daisy Which Clint movie have you seen that surprised you the most, in terms of being better than you'd expected?

mgk  If Steven Spielberg had directed The Bridges of Madison County, what do you think the biggest difference in his version of the movie would have been?

AKA   You're required to write an essay on one Clint movie of someone else's choice.  Which movie do you hope you don't have to write about because it would be the hardest to analyze, even though you like the particular movie?

Lilly You go to a dinner party and who are seated next to but Dina Eastwood ... what would be the one question you would most want to ask her about Clint?

Holden I asked this question of Lucas, but he never posted the answer he sent to me.  So it'd be interesting to see what your response would be.   Let's say some John Wayne western had never been made and the script was still floating around in the 1970's or even in the '80's, 90's, or today (you aren't limited by that) and Clint has the rights to it and wants to direct and star in it, with the option of rewriting it to his particular tastes....  So which one do you think Clint could have most made his own and done it so it was at least equal if not better than the original movie?  If you don't like the john wayne part of the question, you can change it to another Classic western.
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Post by: KC on January 23, 2003, 10:23:05 PM
Just two pretty easy tags for me today!


KC.... Unforgiven is never made.. Instead Clint goes ahead with plans to make Pink Cadillac 2. Thereafter his career course remains the same. Do you still end up being such a great admirer of his work ?
Well, in the first place ... if Clint had made Pink Cadillac 2 instead of Unforgiven, I don't see any way his career course could have remained the same ... I think he'd have been lucky to have ever found work as an actor again, let alone as a director (I'm assuming you're projecting Clint as the director of this project, or did you visualize Buddy Van Horn doing an encore as helmer?).  In fact, he probably could count himself lucky if the men in white coats hadn't turned up shortly after the premiere to take him away somewhere where he could never harm a studio's treasury again ...  :o

BUT, if in some alternate universe Clint's 1992 release had been Pink Cadillac 2 ...  ::) and it was a big hit ...  :o and all the others had followed, just as they have in the reality we all know and love ... I seriously doubt I'd have ever gone to see an Eastwood film to this day, unless I'd somehow independently have developed an interest in Siegel or Leone. Can't think of a single one of the post-92 flicks, much as I dearly love many of them now that I've seen 'em, that has an intrinsic "hook" that could have pulled me into the theater.


KC

The trailer for Two Mules for Sister Sara claims "The most action packed Clint Eastwood film ever made". At that time agree or disagree ?
I'd disagree. Two Mules was released in June, 1970. The main "action" is concentrated in about fifteen minutes at the end ... it's a very swift-moving, virtuosically edited sequence, but aside from it and maybe the scene in the beginning in which Hogan rescues Sara from the bandidos, there's not much action in the film. A lot of "operations," maybe, but not much action. At that point in Clint's career, I'd say it had five pretty good competitors in the "action" department: the three Leone films, Where Eagles Dare ... and Kelly's Heroes (released virtually simultaneously with Two Mules).


I tagged one too many yesterday, so I'll just post two new ones for these.

MC:   On the old Board, you posted an interview with David Webb Peoples about Unforgiven. Do you think this is the best script Eastwood has ever worked from, and if not, what is?
Doug: What is your favorite "moment of silence" (as opposed to a line of dialogue) in an Eastwood film?
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Post by: Lilly on January 23, 2003, 10:43:23 PM
Right, I'm gonna get caught up...

KC asked:
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Since you haven't seen all of Eastwood's films yet, is there one (or more) you're putting off because you don't think you'll enjoy it? Conversely, are there any you're "saving" because you expect them to be really good and you want to "defer the pleasure"?
 There isn't a film that I'm consciously putting off watching because I don't think I'll enjoy it.  However, I do sometimes savour the thought of watching what I expect to be a really good Clint film, and put it off, as you put it "to defer the pleasure".  I particularly did that with Bridges.  I wanted to be in the right mood, and also to watch it without being interrupted.  I have to watch movies on a communal TV in our uni. common room, and it's difficult to watch TV without people coming in and talking over it.  So when I watched Bridges I did so at 4am, thinking I'd be left in peace.  Unfortunately one of my house mates came back drunk right at the scene where they are having their last supper together. >:(  This is part of the reason that I haven't seen Unforgiven yet - I know!  :o  ::)  I have been putting that off to enjoy it, but I've kind of given up doing that now because being on the board I keep finding out things about movies that I'd rather not have known before watching them.  So now I'm just gonna try and watch everything soon, but then it'll be a shame to have no new movies to look forward to :(.  Having said that, I find that a lot get better with watching.

Gant asked:
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Streep is unavailable for Bridges. Who do you cast in her role instead.
 ???That's really hard, because Bridges is Clint and Streep, and it's almost sacrilegeous to think of replacing her.  Like I said before I'm not that knowlegeable when it comes to actors/actresses, but if I had to choose one I might go for Debra Winger.  That choice would be purely on the strength of her brilliant and moving performance opposite Anthony Hopkins in Shadowlands.  

(http://www.charitysplace.com/review/images/shadowlands.jpg)

BTW I totally agree with Aka's thoughts:
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Anthony Hopkins in particular said he would love to work with Clint! How cool would that be? Where's the film for that? I want to see that film! Clint Eastwood and Anthony Hopkins! WOW!
That really would be a class combination.

mgk asked
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Which Eastwood movie do you think has the most beautiful scenery
I think I have to go for The Outlaw Josey Wales.  I'm especially thinking of the spectacular Paria River valley in Utah:

(http://www.amwest-travel.com/oldparia1_jp85.jpg)
(Check out American West Travelogue page (http://www.amwest-travel.com/awt_oldparia.html) from which I got the photo, and which talks about the movie set).  Anyone can see how beautiful it is, but as a geologist I find it particularly appealing; all that bare rock gets me excited! ;D 8)
I also loved the autumn colours in the film, especially the shimmering leaves on the trees at the new farmstead.  Autumn is my favourite season, and it's long been an ambition of mine to camp out in the Wild West as the Fall takes hold.  

Here are two of the tags I owe, more to follow...

Palm: If you were in charge of producing a Bridges of Madison County special edition DVD, what would you like to put on it?

[shadow=red,left,300]mgk:[/shadow] I know you have your own answer for the question you asked me, so I'd like to know which Eastwood movie you think has the most beautiful scenery.  
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Post by: Matt on January 23, 2003, 11:19:09 PM

Matt:  What do you think the message or messages are in Eastwood's A Perfect World?  What do you think Eastwood wanted us to take away from the film after viewing it?


I believe the main message in the film is about fatherhood and the responsibility of fatherhood... the effect that fathers have on their children's lives... and how very rare it is for a man to be a good father.  

I'll list several fathers and father figures in this film, and sadly, all of them fail in some way:

Butch's father:  Abused Butch and his mom, abandoned them.

Philip's father:  Abandoned him.

Cleve's father:  We don't know... but he's not around.  Either abandoned or dead.

Red Garnett:  Almost a father figure to Butch, he tried to help him by getting him sent to four years in Juvenile Detention to escape his father's upbringing, but failed miserably when it turned him into a criminal.  Again he tries to help him all these years later, telling the men in their trailer not to shoot if they get a clear shot, and again at the end of the film when he says not to shoot unless he gives the signal.   Butch is shot regardless.  Red failed him again.

JFK:  Father figure to our country, about to be killed which will leave a wounded and lost country in his absence.

God:  Philip's mother is a Jehovah Witness, God is the ultimate father figure.  But being faithful to Him with their religion only makes Philip and his siblings a laughing stock of the neighborhood and they aren't able to participate in "fun" things.  

Bob:  The family man, the only man in the film who is with his family, but he's not a "tough" man.. He allows his wife to yell at the kids, and allows Butch to boss him around.  He protects his family, but at the same time, fails at being a "man".  Can a "real man" be a good father?

Butch Haines:  Becomes a father figure to Philip.  He tries to save Philip from the childhood he had and a father that wasn't worth a damn, and yet by involving Philip in his actions, he will leave an indelible scar on Philip that could be as bad as his father left on him.

The US Federal Government:   Another father figure in the film, a figure of authority of our country.  It failed when the FBI man mistakenly thought Butch was armed and kills him, and years before it failed when it oversentenced Butch when he was only a teenager.

Cleve's grandfather:  He loves Cleve, and yet he can hit him and verbally abuse him without a thought.  

Aside from showing failing father relationships, there's a parallel throughout the movie of Philip being a young version of Butch:   Butch killed a man when he was 8, Philip was 8 when he would shoot Butch, ultimately leading to his demise; and both were abandoned by their father.   Philip said his father would be back.... Butch's father promised they'd get together in Alaska.  They both share a hope and a need for a father, as well as a love and a hatred for the same father that failed them.

What does Eastwood want us to take away from watching this film?  Hopefully something positive... that fathers have an enormous responsibility to their children and to take it very seriously.  I hope that's the message, I like to think there could be something positive in there. :)    There's a quote in the movie Spiderman:  "With great power comes great responsibility"  that actually sums it up pretty well too.

Matt

We all know that the marketing for The Beguiled was one of the worst in Eastwood history . What would you have as the tag line on the poster for a 2004 restoration re-release ?


Hmmm... something new, huh?  How about:

Got Mushrooms?  

Just kidding.  (Are those "Got Milk" ads popular over in England?)

Okay it isn't easy to come up with an ad campaign for a movie, but I'll give it a shot.

How about:  

For Corporal McBurney, the War began when he left the battlefield.

I'm sure someone can do better than that.  Anyone got any ideas?

I owe three tags... coming up.  :D
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Post by: KC on January 23, 2003, 11:35:07 PM
Matt, that's a beautiful essay on A Perfect World.  :D

Thanks so much for sharing that with us!

KC
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Post by: Matt on January 23, 2003, 11:36:30 PM
Thanks.  I was hoping to get all those typos fixed up before you read it though.  ;D
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Post by: Lilly on January 23, 2003, 11:57:29 PM
Here are some of the tags I owe, more coming.
KC: I don't know your taste in music, so I'd like to know: if Clint was going to use a film to promote one kind of music other than jazz/blues, what would you like it to be?  Any particular song(s)/artist(s)?

Matt: You didn't post in the "Eastwood movie music" thread, so I'd like to know your favourite piece of music from any Clint film, for the music itself, rather than how it compliments the film.  

Xichado: I loved your question to mgk regarding that great line by Zelda Fitzgerald.  I'd like to know which other poet you would like to see included in an Eastwood film (maybe by just using lines from his/her peoms, or perhaps by using a script about his/her life).  
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Post by: Matt on January 24, 2003, 12:14:40 AM

Matt: You didn't post in the "Eastwood movie music" thread, so I'd like to know your favourite piece of music from any Clint film, for the music itself, rather than how it compliments the film.  

Well, the only hard part about this question is narrowing down WHICH song in The Good, The Bad and The Ugly is my favorite, or that compliments the film the best.  The main title is great... it's such a pick me up through the film.  Whenever it plays you sit a little closer to the edge of your seat, and you can feel your adrenaline rushing.   I really love that one.   Another piece that I love and which is so beautiful in the film has the opposite effect... it is sad, touching, and just makes you feel melancholy at a very emotional point in the film... that would be "The Story of a Soldier" and it's what the soldiers play when they're ordered to perform while Tuco is being beaten.

I watched a special on Leone and Quentin Tarantino said that he didn't think there was ever a composer and director that complemented each other better than Ennio Morricone and Sergio Leone.  I haven't seen as many films as Quentin, but from what I've seen, I agree.  I love the soundtracks to all the Leone westerns that I've seen... they add a whole emotional element to the films that wouldn't be there with any other composer.  The music has a life of its own, and those soundtracks even without the film conjur up all those emotions in me when I listen to it.  

I did mean to post in that thread, but I wanted to get that tape and find Quentin's exact quote on Ennio and Sergio... I just never got around to it.  :-[

EDITED TO ADD:

Geez, do you think I'll ever read a question properly?  I just re-read this post and noticed you didn't want to know what pieces complemented the films the best, rather what piece I liked the best.  Well, the answer still stands because the GBU soundtrack and those songs are my favorite songs to listen to without the movie.  If I had to go with a song that had vocals as well, (other than "Go Go Go Manco!" ;) ) I'd go with Why Should I Care" from True Crime.
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Post by: Lilly on January 24, 2003, 12:15:52 AM
 :) One for Smith&Wesson44...Welcome aboard!  :D
I read your post about character continuity in Dirty Harry films, so I'd like to know who you think is the best character from those films, other than Harry, and why ("best" for whatever reason you like - your personal favourite, best actor/actress, or most interesting character)?
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Post by: Cal on January 24, 2003, 12:20:42 AM
Wow - what a thread we have going here. Sorry I havent been able to reply and spend nearly as much time as I would like to here but I've never been so busy in my life. Ya I know, excuses, excuses... Anyway, if it is not too late, I'll give this a try:

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Cal~Under what circumstances were you able to meet Clint Eastwood?

The first time I met Clint was in the fall of 1995. My then girlfriend(now wife) and another couple took a weekend trip down to Carmel and we decided to have dinner at The Mission Ranch (back then, it wasnt nearly as popular as it is now). Anyway we were having dinner and the couple was joking about how funny it would be if Clint walked in, knowing I was a huge fan.  Not 10 minutes later, my girlfriend's jaw dropped opened and she said 'Oh my god, Clint Eastwood is walking in!'  She was across the table from me facing the door. I was thinking - yeah right. Not gonna fall for that. Well -surprise surprise! It was great. He ate dinner there and afterwards we approached him outside and talked for a while and took a photo. Very cool guy. Very cool trip. Once in a lifetime experience. This was pre-Web and 6 months before I started this site. I guess that was the inspiration :)


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CAL: If you've told the story over the years, forgive me, I must have forgotten the details, but what was it - as specifically as possible if you can express it - that made you want to devote such an elaborate site to Eastwood? Was there one event or movie or some other site you ran across on the net that pushed you into action?


After the Clint trip in 1995, it was early 1996 when I bought a brand new 486 PC with a 14.4 modem. Whohoo!! I've always been sort of computer geek and I wanted to see what this thing they called 'the internet' was all about, namely surfing the WWW with Mosiac (remember that browser?) Anyway once i got on I was hooked and i had to learn everything I could about the Web. So of course I had to build a Web page  :D Rather than build "Cal's Homepage" (boooring  :o ) I focused on something that would keep my attention while I was discovering HTML, Javascript and Photoshop, that of course was Clint Eastwood. The next thing I know, the site starts growing and getting bigger and more people are starting to notice it. Wow - this is cool, i thought. Meanwhile I'm learning more and more about Web developing, thus the site gets bigger and hopefully better and so on and so on. Then I get the call. It's WB. They like the site  and want to help out in anyway and do. Lots of conversations with those great folks, lots a great material and again the site gets bigger and hopefully better. E-mail is pouring in (and still does). People are really enjoying the site now and all the comments and personal messages over the years have been unbelievably heartwarming. The site sort of takes on a life of its own. I start getting kicked off servers becasue the site is getting too many hits so I find myslef fighting to keep it online. WB gives me a choice --they will take it over but I eill loose some of my control and  content, or continue onward myself with limited support, I choose the latter. (Thank you WB fo giving me that choice!) Anyway, I could go on and on about what this 'experience' has been to me both personally and professionaly but I don't want to snore ya! It's been fun, I continue to enjoy it and my only hope is that it's a worthy enough Web site to be associated with The Man With No Name  ;D

Lets see I guess I should ask a question now, before I fall asleep at the keyboard, right? I hope I dont repeat any ones questions but here goes...

KC - You've been around on this board for as long as I can remember, probably ever since I put it up. What keeps you here doing what you do (and will you promiss to keep doing it  ;D ) ?  

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Post by: Lilly on January 24, 2003, 12:34:53 AM
 :D Wow Cal!  That's SO cool!  I think what you've done is amazing, you must be so proud.  Thank you!  :)  So here is another one of the three tags I still owe:
Cal: You said
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The first time I met Clint was in the fall of 1995
does that mean you met him again (sorry if you've already documented this elsewhere)?  I'd like to know how/where, was it associated with your work on this site?  Sorry to tag you when you're busy - just take your time.  

Matt, I liked your answer above.  The GBU score is classic, and I love "Why should I care" too.
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Post by: Matt on January 24, 2003, 12:37:19 AM
It's been fun, I continue to enjoy it and my only hope is that it's a worthy enough Web site to be associated with The Man With No Name  ;D

It is, Cal!  It's the best, most professional site I've seen on the 'net and far better than even the best "official sites".   Thanks for giving The Man's fans this great site, and this message board where we've met so many great people.  This site, and the people who post here are the best.  I'm thrilled to be a part of it. :)

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Post by: Matt on January 24, 2003, 12:58:15 AM
Matt: You've been selected to supervise the release of a new deluxe special-edition Eastwood DVD. What film do you choose, and what special features do you include?

I almost missed this one.  First of all, thanks MC for that great answer to the question I tagged you with.  

Hard question for me, because I have no clue what special features are available to the films that COULD be included.  I'll try to answer the question without that information.  Philo and Stranger can get a good laugh from this.  ;) ;D

Rather than re-release a film that's already out on DVD, I'd choose from the films that we don't have yet.  The three I want the most are Honkytonk Man, Tightrope and White Hunter, Black Heart.  I'm gonna opt for White Hunter, Black Heart because I think we could maybe get more interesting extras.  Here's a list... (don't laugh TOO hard, those in the know)

1.  Clint won't do a commentary, so I'll be realistic and try to have someone else do it.   Maybe Peter Viertel could, or if not, maybe he could just do an interview discussing a little about his experiences working with Huston and Eastwood.   Anjelica Huston has worked with Clint, maybe she would like to do a little interview about her father and Clint.

2.  The trailer... I've never seen it.

3.  A little 5-10 minute thing on the people or tribes in Zimbabwe that were shown in the film.  I heard they kicked @ss for real in that soccer game.   Maybe show a little more of the locations and discuss the rigors of filming there.   (Hey, I'm really trying to think of extras... what do I know?  ??? )

4.  Maybe some deleted scenes, I don't know what they are, but hey... it's a special edition, so pile it on.

Is that enough?  Personally, I'd be thrilled just to have the film itself on DVD in widescreen format.  Hope we get it this year.
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Post by: Lilly on January 24, 2003, 01:34:14 AM
Just want to say that I liked and agree with your answer to my question, Doug:
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One last acting role...  I think I'd like to see him in a non-genre movie actually, one that allows him to give a broad performance, and who knows, maybe get another acting nomination.  He's shown he can do the complicated, troubled artist (Honkeytonk Man, White Hunter Black Heart) so maybe he could be play the aging pianist, dealing with ...  Well, something like that.  Or else maybe a suspense movie, the way suspense movies used to be made.  He could be that aging pianist in Europe, and he sees a man murder someone and now he's being stalked by the murderer...  But something clever, well-written, with good depth... something marketed as a drama with the suspense as only part of the story.  It could even have a finale where Clint can be Clint ... for one last time.
I haven't forgotten your tag, but I've got to go to uni now, so I'll get back later...
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Post by: Matt on January 24, 2003, 01:55:42 AM
Looks like I owe FIVE tags.  I'll get to them.  First, we've got some great answers to some great questions in this thread.  If anyone wants to take one of those posts and start a topic so that we can further discuss the subject and get more people's input, please go ahead and copy the post to a new topic.

Here's my tags:  (It's almost 4:00 AM here and I have to get up at 7:00.  I want to tag so y'all can keep busy tomorrow, but I can't take too long to get good questions.  Sorry if these aren't that interesting)

BDC:    What's your favorite quote spoken by Eastwood?

GANT:     If you could own the same make and model of any of Eastwood's vehicles from the movies, which would you choose?  (I remember you loved the Dirty Harry car, don't know if that's your favorite).

STRANGER:  What's your favorite scene in all Eastwood?

PHILO:  Which character (not actress) from any of Eastwood's films would you most like to date?

AKA:  In all these posts, I can't recall ever knowing this... what film was the big clincher that made you an Eastwood fan?  Was it the first one you saw, or did it take a couple for you to really go "wow"?

I'm off to bed!  G'night everyone. (http://e4u.veiozmedia.com/sleep/schla03.gif)
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Post by: Doug on January 24, 2003, 02:35:36 AM

This is part of the reason that I haven't seen Unforgiven yet - I know!  :o  ::)  I have been putting that off to enjoy it, but I've kind of given up doing that now because being on the board I keep finding out things about movies that I'd rather not have known before watching them.  So now I'm just gonna try and watch everything soon, but then it'll be a shame to have no new movies to look forward to :(.  Having said that, I find that a lot get better with watching.

I know how it is with delaying the moment, but I hope you aren't let down after all the hype.  The thing to do is watch it, then no matter what you feel about it, watch it again back-to-back.  What a great movie!  And you're right some movies only get better with repeated viewings, so you always have that to look forward to.  It took me several viewings of Pale Rider before I saw the power of that movie.  


Here's my tags:  (It's almost 4:00 AM here and I have to get up at 7:00....  

Okay, who will take the first turn at taking in Matt when he's fired for excessive tardiness because of the Clint board? ;D  And yes, Matt, those were great thoughts on A Perfect World.

KC's tag:
Doug: What is your favorite "moment of silence" (as opposed to a line of dialogue) in an Eastwood film?


Wow, what a simplistically great question!  It's kind of like asking, "what was your favorite Bruce Lee punch..."  Clint has used silence better than any other actor, and I think I'd have to watch all his films in a row looking for just how he uses silence to really give the best answer.  However, I think I do have an answer, but it's getting late here too (1:28 pacific time), so I think I'll answer tomorrow, after I've had a chance to review the scene I'm thinking of.  I'd actually intended to answer now, but it's gotten later than I realized and I still need to review the scene.  And it just happens to be from a movie I've been thinking of buying on dvd...hmm...  

Back tomorrow.
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Post by: Smith&Wesson44 on January 24, 2003, 02:55:48 AM
:) One for Smith&Wesson44...Welcome aboard!  :D
I read your post about character continuity in Dirty Harry films, so I'd like to know who you think is the best character from those films, other than Harry, and why ("best" for whatever reason you like - your personal favourite, best actor/actress, or most interesting character)?

Oh, let's see how philosophical this is for you... ;D
I hope this is a good answer for you.

My favorite "character" in all the DH films is...

The Smith & Wesson Classic Model 29 .44 Magnum.  The blue steel, 8 3/8 inch barrel work of art.

Yes , it is an inanimate object, but I can't think of a more powerful object of symbolism in any film of the genre.   I look at the gun as a character.   Think of what it represents:  power.

The power of Harry over the criminal.  The .44 is where the power lies, it's the great equalizer.  When the bad guy is staring straight down the business end of the cannon, he knows that his days as a criminal are over, one way or the other, with him either in a jail cell or a body bag.  The .44 represents what I, the ordinary citizen, can only wish to do what Harry does.  Protect the innocent and run the hoods out of town.  To quote a line from Sudden Impact, "It's the one constant in an ever changing universe."  It's always there, always ready, to put the thugs down.

Now my questions:
Lilly:  What (or who) first turned you on to Eastwood films?

Matt:  You are a cop in the Dirty Harry universe.  You are assigned to be his new partner.  How long will you live? ;D
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Post by: Daisy Abigael on January 24, 2003, 03:55:22 AM
Doug asked :):
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Which Clint movie have you seen that surprised you the most, in terms of being better than you'd expected?

I know this sounds stupid but it must have been Pink Caddy! :-[

I normally hve very high expectations of a new Eastwood movie and I have sometimes been dissappointed, but when this went straight to video in the UK I really feared the worst!

When I finally saw it, I thought it was an okay thriller-comedy with some very good individual scenes and Clint and Bernadette gave convincing, even touching, performances.

I'm not saying it is great, just that it was surprisingly good for a film not judged good enough for cinema release.  It is still the only Eastwood film to be treated in this way.

It goes too silly at the end and doesn't hang together  well as a whole, but it is entertaining and better than some of the films that I saw full of high hopes - City Heat, Heartbreak Ridge, The Rookie...
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Post by: philo on January 24, 2003, 06:18:36 AM
Cal ,

Matt said :

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This site, and the people who post here are the best.  I'm thrilled to be a part of it.

I'm just saying that I couldn't agree more.

Great story , great site and this is indeed a great thread.


Philo .
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Post by: philo on January 24, 2003, 06:22:05 AM

Matt ,

Good choices of extras on White Hunter .
Just to let you know there are 2 trailers that I have come across . One from the US and one from here. they are almost the same except the UK version has an image freeze and then some Uk newspaper quotes . Like most Eastwood trailers it is good .

Philo .  
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Post by: Aline on January 24, 2003, 08:04:36 AM
Conan asked
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Aline Your buying a gift for Clint's birthday, he loves gifts that are somehow related to his films.  What do you choose?

Conan,If I could give a gift to Clint wouldn't be a gun or a sunglasses or a poncho... he must have many of those things already.I think I'd give a painting I made,a script with an idea about a movie story and a video tape with some comments( things that only he may hear).
That is what I'd give to him  :)

I've to formulate six tags.It isn't easy, there are so many questions made already...I wouldn't like ask similar questions.So,only two, for now.

KC

I may be wrong and I really don't know much about Kyle_Clint's son_ but  although some physical resemblance between them I think Kyle hasn't not even half of Clint's striking presence.I mean,it is not always, star's sons inherit the talent their fathers.I know he isn't actor but "comparing" him to Clint, what your impressions about Kyle Eastwood?

Daisy

Would you do some "craziness" to call Clint attention? (nothing aggressive,of course).What it would be?
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Post by: MC on January 24, 2003, 09:01:41 AM

MC:   On the old Board, you posted an interview with David Webb Peoples about Unforgiven. Do you think this is the best script Eastwood has ever worked from, and if not, what is?

I would have to say yes, Unforgiven is the best script Eastwood has ever worked from. Peoples takes a potentially tired genre and completely reinvigorates it by exploding old myths and exploring new questions. Some people believe that the English Bob portion of the film is extraneous, but I completely disagree. In fact, every scene -- and literally every line of dialogue --- seems perfectly written to me.

I'd like to see Eastwood and Peoples work together again. Maybe Eastwood could commission Peoples to write a screenplay for him...

A close second in my book would be John Lee Hancock's superb A Perfect World screenplay. Like Peoples, he takes a tired genre (road movie/chase movie) and digs much deeper.

Of course, Eastwood deserves credit for not commercializing the bold scripts these authors wrote, and for doing them justice on the big screen by adding his own deft flourishes.
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Post by: MC on January 24, 2003, 09:05:22 AM
And now for my tags:

KC: Spike Lee, in criticizing Bird, argued that the film failed to place Charlie Parker's life in an African American context, since the two closest figures to him in the film are both white (Chan and Red). Do you agree or disagree, and why?

Matt: In the powerful climactic scene in White Hunter, a four-word phrase is spoken and then repeated: "White hunter, black heart. White hunter, black heart." It's at once simple and completely ambiguous. What do you think is the meaning of this phrase in the context of this scene and the film as a whole?
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Post by: mgk on January 24, 2003, 11:41:31 AM
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From Doug to mgk  If Steven Spielberg had directed The Bridges of Madison County, what do you think the biggest difference in his version of the movie would have been?

Are these questions getting harder or is it just me? ;)  Since I haven't read as much about Spielberg's approach to directing, I'm going to have to guess here based on the many Spielberg movies I have watched and compare them to the Eastwood movies I have "somewhat" studied.  The first thing that comes to mind is that I don't think Spielberg would have filmed in as much darkness as Eastwood seems to enjoy using. Spielberg seems to prefer crystal clear images whereas Eastwood prefers more of a cloud of mystery over them.

One other thing that I can think of is that Spielberg may want to have more input into how each actor portrays his or her character.  He may have a particular vision of how that character would be in each and every scene.  Eastwood prefers to allow each actor to bring his or her own perception of the character to work each day.

Since both Spielberg and Eastwood collaborated with the script for quite some time, I doubt the story would have changed any.  Speilberg may have toned down some of the romantic scenes but please remember that I'm guessing here.  The story would have been the same but I think the "feel" of the movie would have been different.

I'm assuming you meant for Eastwood to still be playing Robert Kincaid.  If so, then the distinctions I have made above may have become a blur.  Both men respect each other and, therefore, would have adopted ideas from the other.


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From Lilly to mgk:  
I know you have your own answer for the question you asked me, so I'd like to know which Eastwood movie you think has the most beautiful scenery.  


Yes, you are right...I do have an Eastwood movie that I love the scenery in.  There are many because Eastwood prefers to film in the Fall of the year but the one I like the most is Unforgiven because of the many contrasts in the seasons and the images.  Here are a few of the reasons why this is my choice:

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Tagging...

KC: The appropriate age for young people to view an Eastwood movie has come up before.  So, let me ask you the same question you asked of me.  What age do you think is appropriate for someone to view Unforgiven and be able to grasp the full understanding?  Do you think younger than 17 or 18 year olds can understand it or do you think someone should be even older?

Agent: Why do you think James Fargo, Director of The Enforcer, had Ms. Gray of the Mayor's staff be so excessively prim and proper?

AKA: Have you now been able to view all of Eastwood's films or are there still some you haven't seen?

mgk
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Post by: Daisy Abigael on January 24, 2003, 01:12:45 PM
Would you do some "craziness" to call Clint attention? (nothing aggressive,of course).What it would be?

I really do not know what you mean!  ???

Are you suggesting I'm the sort of girl who would use a dubious trick in order to get noticed? :-[

Of course not.  I'd be cool, restrained, sophisticated.

I'd just sit in the corner quietly massaging Newcastle Brown Ale into my long blonde hair...  With my feet!

:o ;D
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Post by: Gant on January 24, 2003, 01:20:48 PM
In answer to Matt's question.... Which vehicle from an Eastwood film would I most like to own....

Mmmm A bit of a tough one here. Assuming I can't have the Firefox.... I would be tempted by those Chevy trucks Eastwood favours in the Every/Any Which Way and Bridges of Madison County movies. Plenty of room in back for my drums.

Then again I did like Harry's car. I've forgotten what it was but I remember someone did post some pics and it was way cool....

Nope.. I'm gonna settle for that big white Caddy from Thunderbolt and Lightfoot... My kinda wheels...

Right... my tag. Theres been a lot of intelligent, informed, educational opinions expressed in this tag game, so let me add to that.

AKA23  You have to sport one hairstyle as worn by Clint from one of his movies. Whats it gonna be.. The long and wavy look from Misty.. or maybe the brutal flat top from Heartbreak Ridge....Whaddya reckon. ;)
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Post by: Agent on January 24, 2003, 02:19:45 PM
Agent: Why do you think James Fargo, Director of The Enforcer, had Ms. Gray of the Mayor's staff be so excessively prim and proper?
Hmmm…maybe because she reminded him of his mother-in-law? Another wild guess, but maybe they were trying to depict her as a “Pauline Kael” figure, and that was Fargo’s way of giving her what was due. Other than that, I honestly don’t know the real reason.

Okay, back at ya:

mgk: If you were chosen back in 1971 to play one of the following characters in The Beguiled, which one would you have picked: Martha Farnsworth (Headmistress), Edwina Dabney (instructor), or Carol (the flirt)? *And for bonus points, which scene would have been the most difficult to play?

vik:[/b] Out of all the Eastwood movies you own, which one have you viewed the most?
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Post by: mgk on January 24, 2003, 02:52:10 PM
 :)
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From Agent to mgk:  
If you were chosen back in 1971 to play one of the following characters in The Beguiled, which one would you have picked: Martha Farnsworth (Headmistress), Edwina Dabney (instructor), or Carol (the flirt)? *And for bonus points, which scene would have been the most difficult to play?


Decisions, decisions!!  It would have been tempting to want to play Carol...that one would have been fun.  However, being the hopeless romantic that I am, I think I would have wanted to play Edwina because she loved McB and he actually loved her (even though he didn't realize it for a while).  Edwina had a few tough scenes but I think the most difficult one to play would have been when she had to watch Martha Farnsworth amputate McB's leg.  It was almost like Edwina knew that the leg didn't really need to be amputated but she wasn't quite sure and wasn't quite strong enough to stand up to Martha.  And, it had to be painful to watch something so devastating happen to someone you loved.

Tagging...

Palm: Did you like the ending in Unforgiven or would you have rather seen William and Delilah get together at the end?

mgk

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Post by: Aline on January 24, 2003, 02:57:20 PM
No,that wasn't what I meant.

"Do a crazyness for an idol" are little things that qualify you a big fan.Things such as behavior yourself like a fool and don't care if people blame you or not; travel only to watch a his movie that still didn't open in your city and you can't wait; cry if can't time or money enough to do the travel; if see him in a place full of people, be able to confront the crowd trying at least take a look at him closer;shout his name until he could hear, things like that.

 

 
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Post by: Palm on January 24, 2003, 03:55:20 PM
good gosh all mighty i just written down a real long answer to all of my tags and then i got the message that i wasn't logged in  :'( :'( :'(
and everything is gone.........
this is just a check if everythin is working now......
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Post by: Palm on January 24, 2003, 04:11:27 PM
good, seems everything is OK.

My tags where by Conan :worst actress in an Eatwood film. That must be mrs Locke !!!!! I just can't stand her sitting up or lying down, speaking or singing.......she the worst of the worst. I don't know why Clint put her in all those movies (and boy did he regret it later  >:()

Lilly has asked me what i want to see on a special edition of BOMC.
That's a long story Lil.
First of all i'd like to see some scenes from the book "BOMC the film" cos there was more filmed than we got to see. I am especially interested in that scene after they said goodbye for the last time and obviously she ran after him outside ( if you study the last scene closely where she stands near the gate, something isn't right in my opinion, she is all sweaty and her hair is a bit messed up !!!! Look at it another time and you shall see it too).
Than i would like to hear and see Meryl and Clint's experience on how it was to work on BOMC together (in some sort of duo interview).
And last but not least i would love to see some bloopers (if there where any of course).
It is going to be a special 2-dvd edition so it's going to be pricy  ;D ;D ;)

MGK asked me if i likes the end of Unforgiven. And i know i am going to be hated for this and probably be thrown of the board right now, but i didn't like unforgiven at all. I think it was way to dark and moody, i don't like those kind of films. I must admit i only saw it once (one and a half year ago) and probably when i would watch it once more maybe looked at it with another point of view. But i still have the DVD sealed on the shelf.........so i guess i don't feel any hury to do so.

Do i have to get my coat and pack now ???? 8) :-X ;D

before i do i owe some tags:

Conan : did you like BOMC ???

AKA : if you would go to a party and you may dress up as Clint, what outfit would you choose ???

Philo : Why do you like the which way films so much ???

Agent : do you think Clint has a good singing voice ??
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Post by: Doug on January 24, 2003, 04:43:10 PM
From KC:
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What is your favorite "moment of silence" (as opposed to a line of dialogue) in an Eastwood film?

Okay, here's the whole scene from Escape from Alcatraz:

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(Frank starts up the steps to English.  A black inmate bars his path.)
Inmate: Where you going, cracker?
English: [says something I couldn't understand.]  
(Frank says nothing as inmate lets him go on up to English.)
Frank: Something special about those steps?
English: The higher you sit the more status you got.  So we kinda play king of the mountain.  Except here we don't play for fun, man.
Frank: And you're king.
English: Yeah...
(Frank says nothing, starts to turn away and walk down the steps.)
English: Now I figure there's two reasons why you didn't want to sit down on my step.  Either you're too scared, or you just hate n!ggers.  Now which is it, boy?  You too scared?  Hmm?
(Frank says nothing as he sits down beside English.)
Frank: Nah, I just hate n!ggers.
(Silence as both men size each other up.)
Frank: So no one's ever busted out?  [note: this is Clint's last line of dialogue in the scene.]
English: No one's ever made it.  Everyone here's looked for a way out, but there ain't one.  See those hacks?  Most joints have one hack for every seven cons.  There's one hack for every three cons here.  You start sh!tting at night instead of the morning, they want to know why.
(Silence.)
But let's say you're going to try it anyway.  First, you gotta get out of the cell.  Each bar has six hard smaller bars set in a steel tube, with extra steel girding. [I think that's the word.]  And there ain't no way to tunnel out either.  Sh!t.  This island is solid rock.  See that water.  It's over a mile swim to land.  The currents make it seem like ten.  And the water's so cold it will numb your arms in a matter of minutes.
And even if you are a good swimmer, man, you won't have the time to make it.  There are twelve counts every day.  Sometimes I think that's all this sh!thole is, one long count.  We count the hours, the bulls count us, and the king bulls count the counts.

(Frank is silent.)
Guard: (Blows a whistle)  Inside!  Everybody in!
(Silently the two men stand up.)

Clint's use of silence is so incredible throughout that scene.  I can't think of any other actor who can use silence like he can, to both generously give to the other actor (to let them shine with the long monologue) and still hold his own as a force on the screen.


tags..

Matt: Stealing KC's great question, I pass it on to you.  What is your favorite "moment of silence" (as opposed to a line of dialogue) in an Eastwood film?

Conan: If you were forced to watch two Clint Eastwood movies  a day, and when you're through them all , you have to start over, and over, until you're sick of every single one of them ... which would be the last movie you would have grown tired of watching?
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Post by: Daisy Abigael on January 24, 2003, 05:19:01 PM
No,that wasn't what I meant.

"Do a crazyness for an idol" are little things that qualify you a big fan.Things such as behavior yourself like a fool and don't care if people blame you or not; travel only to watch a his movie that still didn't open in your city and you can't wait; cry if can't time or money enough to do the travel; if see him in a place full of people, be able to confront the crowd trying at least take a look at him closer;shout his name until he could hear, things like that.

Er... No.

I'd probably try and buck up the courage to ask for an autograph and then kick myself eternally for failing to do so. ::)

I'm British, Aline, for heaven's sake... :D
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Post by: AKA23 on January 24, 2003, 05:57:09 PM

AKA   You're required to write an essay on one Clint movie of someone else's choice.  Which movie do you hope you don't have to write about because it would be the hardest to analyze, even though you like the particular movie?

Doug, you came up with quite an interesting question here. If I had to write an essay on a Clint Eastwood movie, I think I'd probably be able to do that, and I wouldn't have much of a problem with it. Some films may be easier than others, but it's always good to explore something that may at first seem to be a bit challenging. After all, if it's too simplistic, you won't really grow as a person. There are Eastwood movies that I wouldn't want to write about because I don't like the particular movie, but you've limited the question to movies that I like but that I feel would be difficult to analyze.

 I'll try to pick one of Clint's "artistic" pictures here, one that has been overlooked by the mainstream, but also a film that probably hasn't been critiqued to death already, White Hunter, Black Heart . There are an awful lot of things going on in that film, and at first it may seem like a simple picture, but if you delve deeper, you'll find that it's saying a lot. As some of these things can be quite esoteric and difficult to really grasp at first, I think perhaps I'd miss some of them, and so I wouldn't do as good a job in analyzing it because I probably wouldn't pick up all the subtlety, and I'm not as familiar with that one as I am with other Eastwood films, so that might be a bit difficult.

It's also not the most enjoyable of Clint's films to watch. The character is one of Clint's most animated and interesting portrayals in his filmography, but the film itself isn't particularly enjoyable. It's not the kind of Clint film that you want to go run and put in the VCR (we don't have a DVD yet!) all of the time for its sheer entertainment value.

 I might also be handicapped by the fact that I don't know any of the historical background related to that film, and I don't know much about John Huston so in that way I would be at a disadvantage. It would be challenging though, so I don't think I would have any kind of an aversion to writing about any Eastwood film. It would just present it's own unique set of challenges and difficulties to overcome.

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Post by: AKA23 on January 24, 2003, 06:08:34 PM

AKA:  In all these posts, I can't recall ever knowing this... what film was the big clincher that made you an Eastwood fan?  Was it the first one you saw, or did it take a couple for you to really go "wow"?

You know Matt, I don't really know. I'm not sure when I first started to like Eastwood, but it's been awhile. I've related the story of how I sneakily saw Unforgiven at an early age, and as I watched it when it came on TV about 10 or so years ago, I was only 9 or 10, and at that time, I must have been an Eastwood fan, because otherwise I wouldn't have had any interest in checking it out. Unforgiven wasn't the first of his that I saw (though I don't even concretely remember which Eastwood film that was and at what age) but it was quite striking to me. I do remember also in 1993 when In the Line of Fire came out that I wanted to go see it in theaters, and I remember a few commercials for it, but I didn't get to see it until it came out on video a year later. I think my parents thought it would be too scary for me, and wouldn't take me to go see it. So, in answer to your question, I think it may have been when I saw In the Line of Fire in 1993 when I really said "wow" this guy is great, but that was when I was 9 or 10 years old. It wasn't until 1997 around the time of Absolute Power when I really became more like the fan that I am today, but the admiration of Eastwood did start rather early on, though I can't really pinpoint an exact film experience. Mine is really an ineresting story isn't it? A little kid liking Eastwood. Even at that early age, I really appreciated Eastwood, and I saw something in him that I must have really liked. Maybe I was a bit mature for my age at that time to have liked Eastwood and had the desire to go check out Unforgiven and other Eastwood films at such an early time in my life.  
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Post by: AKA23 on January 24, 2003, 06:25:25 PM

AKA: Have you now been able to view all of Eastwood's films or are there still some you haven't seen?

There are still some Eastwood films that I haven't seen. Movies like Paint Your Wagon and City Heat . I've never seen any of Paint Your Wagon . I tried to watch it one time on TV and I just wasn't able to watch it. With City Heat I've seen parts of it but I've never seen the whole film. I didn't really like the parts that I saw, and there wasn't anything special to the movie for me, so I didn't really feel the need or the desire to go search it out and watch it. I've seen the which way films, but I've never sat down and watched those all at one time, either. I've probably seen the whole films in bits and pieces, but I've never seen it all at one time. I don't really feel that there are any really great films in Eastwood's filmography left that I haven't seen. There's no real hole for me. No films that are really great that I'm saying "I have to see this." I haven't seen all of Where Eagles Dare so maybe that's the only film that I may like that I haven't seen all of yet.

Oh, there is one film that I forgot about but that Eastwood did direct so I suppose I should consider it an Eastwood film. I've never seen any of Breezy . Not even one scene. That film might be worth checking out, but it's so difficult to find, and as Eastwood isn't in it, I don't really feel the absolute necessity to seek it out at all costs. So, I've pretty much seen almost all of Eastwood's films, and the very few that I haven't seen I don't really feel a great need to see. Does that answer your question?

Sorry, I answered this question twice before, and closed the window before I could post it, so it's taken much longer than it should have to answer, and if it's not that great, it's the third time around!
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Post by: AKA23 on January 24, 2003, 06:48:09 PM

AKA23  You have to sport one hairstyle as worn by Clint from one of his movies. Whats it gonna be.. The long and wavy look from Misty.. or maybe the brutal flat top from Heartbreak Ridge....Whaddya reckon. ;)

Hey Gant! Finally a question that really makes me delve deep and analyze ;) No more of this friolity! HEHE..Well, my hair is black, so am I having brown hair now like Clint?? I'll assume not. My hair isn't particularly wavy, and I don't have as much of it as Clint, so I'm not sure  the look would really work, but if those are my two choices, I think the wavy Play Misty for Me look would be better.  What a choice!!! Clint does have great hair though. Even at his age, he has great looking hair though I don't know what was up with the hair for [/I] Blood Work [/I]. It seemed to be cut a lot thinner and shorter than usual. It didn't look as healthy, but maybe that was the look he wanted for the character. Can I have Clint's hair in In the Line of Fire ? I want to be 63 years old and still have that hair! That's pretty rare.
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Post by: AKA23 on January 24, 2003, 06:53:20 PM

AKA : if you would go to a party and you may dress up as Clint, what outfit would you choose ???

I don't know Palm. I've never really been impressed with Clint's fashion sense. He usually does look pretty good in his movies, but when he's not in a movie sometimes I look at him and sometimes I'm just going, why are you wearing that? That doesn't look good, which is strange, because Tehama clothing, from what I've seen, is pretty nice. I'm not really sure Palm. Maybe it would be cool to wear something from the western days. I've never done that before. That might be interesting. Maybe Munny's stuff from Unforgiven .  
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: AKA23 on January 24, 2003, 06:55:15 PM
Hey, I'm sorry that some of these questions took awhile to answer, but I had to eat dinner in between, so I had to close the posts and start over with another post. Otherwise, it would have been a couple less posts, and it would have been faster.

I apoligize. I'm behind in the tagging now. I think I owe something like 7 questions, so I'll try to be back with those later!! For now, I've done enough work!! :) Is that okay guys? I just don't want to do it RIGHT this second.
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Post by: Conan on January 24, 2003, 07:32:29 PM

Conan : did you like BOMC ???

  No, I liked Clint in it and Streep was fine.  And there were some very interesting and powerful scenes with well written dialogue...I just didn't like the story.  When it comes down to it, it really was about a woman cheating on her husband - who was a good man!  Yawnfest; though it isn't my least favorite of Clint's.


Conan: If you were forced to watch two Clint Eastwood movies  a day, and when you're through them all , you have to start over, and over, until you're sick of every single one of them ... which would be the last movie you would have grown tired of watching?

  The westerns would be near the end with "The Outlaw Josey Wales" being the absolute last one.

Tags:

Matt: Eastwood asks you to cast someone for the lead role in "Golf in the Kingdom".  He wants an underrated actor who comes cheap :)  Who do you choose?

Palm: Your on a deserted island with a CD player and allowed one Eastwood movie soundtrack CD to listen to, which one do you choose?

Little Bill: Have you ever had to defend an Eastwood movie?  (Example:  A friend doesn't like a particular Eastwood flick and argues with you)
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Post by: AKA23 on January 24, 2003, 08:34:28 PM
WOW. I owe 8 questions! Two from my answer to MC's question from yesterday, two from Doug's question, and 4 from the other questions that I was asked today!!

Here goes:

KC : Hopefully this will be a relatively easy one for you! I know that you've answered my question on how you became a Clint fan, but I was wondering what it was about Unforgiven that got you into the seat in the theater! You remarked that if it wasn't for that film, you probably never would have seen an Eastwood film, so why was this film attractive to you? You didn't know much about Eastwood, you didn't watch many films, so was it that you were attracted to the Western genre? Did you hear good things about it from friends? Read reviews about it? What was it about the film Unforgiven ?

Matt : Same question that you asked me. When was it that you said "wow" to Eastwood, and really started to appreciate the man and his work, or wanted to find out more about him? Follow up: What attracted you to the web board? What was it about Eastwood and his films that you got to the stage of saying "I want to dedicate all of this time posting, discussing Eastwood, and reading the latest news!" I think for you I'd especially be interested because you don't really see that many films, and other than Eastwood, you're not really a movie fan, so I'd be interested to know what it was about him, and when that point was that you were like "wow." This guy is great!

MGK: : I know that you wouldn't show any Eastwood films to your fourth grade class, and I agree with that, but I saw Eastwood films at a very early age (as I've related on the board many times) and I really don't feel that I've been done any psychological or permanent damage by having watched them at an earlier age. Is it possible, in your estimation, that even though I did see some of these films early on, that the fact that maybe I was a bit more interested (I don't even want to say mature, because I'm not sure that's the right word for it.) might mean that some kids may just be able to handle it, and think critically about it, and be able to appreciate it at an earlier age, and not really be doing any permanent damage to themselves or their development? I know that you wouldn't recommend it, and I wouldn't either to be honest, but I think having had the experience, and not having felt that I've really been transformed negatively by it (and in fact there may have been some positive aspects to it, I think I'm qualified to at least ask the question, or explore the possibilities. What do you think about that possibility?

Daisy : What's the most overlooked Eastwood film? Is there a film that you really like a lot that doesn't seem to get the recognition that you feel that it deserves, or isn't admired in the same light that you feel that it should be? If so, what is that film, and why do you think that is?

Lilly : You're obviously a great admirer of In the Line of Fire . Is that your favorite Eastwood film? I'm quite an admirer of it as well (it may be my favorite Eastwood flm), but I'm just wondering what it is about that film that you like so much? What is it about the film, and why do you choose it?

Sorry guys! I owe 3 more, but I'm creatively tapped out right now :) That should get you started!

 
 
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Post by: Christopher on January 24, 2003, 09:28:56 PM
KC asked:
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Christopher: I hear you're a Scorsese fan. Could you picture Clint in a leading role in any Scorsese picture released to date?
That's a pretty good question. I haven't seen every movie Scorsese has directed, but I tried to think of Clint in the ones that I have seen. Of the eight movies I've seen, no, I couldn't picture Clint in any of them. I do believe that the types of characters that Clint and Marty seem attracted to are silmilar (flawed, to say the least), and that could make for an interesting project.

Conan asked:
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Christopher Eastwood just released his own brand of cologne (Eastwood Essence), but it smells like ass and he asks you what you think.  Are you brutally honest with him?
I wouldn't be quite that blunt with him, I would probably tell him that I had really sensitive nostrils (or something else to try to come up with an excuse).

Agent asked:
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Christopher, You are settled in your new pad, finally living on your own, when there is a knock at the door. Standing there is an armed robber demanding you had over at least 3 Eastwood DVDs. Which 3 out of your current DVD collection would you hand over?
Gee, thanks for making me want to stay home forever. When I am out on my own, I'll have nightmares about gunman who want my Eastwood DVDs. :D
Lets see, 3 DVDs: The Dead Pool, The Gauntlet, and Blood Work
 
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Post by: Matt on January 24, 2003, 09:39:57 PM
Okay, who will take the first turn at taking in Matt when he's fired for excessive tardiness because of the Clint board? ;D  

Doesn't look like anyone volunteered, Doug.   :'(

Lucky for me, my dog woke me up needing to go out... I didn't even get to sleep through till 7:00.   >:(

Oh well....  :-[

Matt:  You are a cop in the Dirty Harry universe.  You are assigned to be his new partner.  How long will you live? ;D

I wouldn't die because I'd be smart enough to know how poorly Harry's partners fare, and I'd never work alongside him.   The minute they'd assign me as Harry's partner I'd move to Philadelphia!  (http://www.stopstart.freeserve.co.uk/smilie/plane.gif)


Matt: In the powerful climactic scene in White Hunter, a four-word phrase is spoken and then repeated: "White hunter, black heart. White hunter, black heart." It's at once simple and completely ambiguous. What do you think is the meaning of this phrase in the context of this scene and the film as a whole?

Well, I've never thought it was more than it appears, so maybe this would be another topic to open up on the board if anyone else has a different interpretation of it.  What it means to me... Wilson's the "white hunter", an outsider to them, he's not one of their own.  "Black heart" just means that he's cold-hearted, unfeeling, selfish, callous, unscrupulous.   He's a white man with a dark soul.  

Matt: Stealing KC's great question, I pass it on to you.  What is your favorite "moment of silence" (as opposed to a line of dialogue) in an Eastwood film?

I thought this would be hard because there's so many great "moments of silence" to choose from, but once I remembered this scene, I stopped trying to think of any other.  It's definitely one of my favorite scenes... the end of Thunderbolt and Lightfoot.  (http://home.swfla.rr.com/mattreigns/thunderboltcig.gif)  

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LIGHTFOOT:  You know something?  I don't think of us as criminals, you know?  I feel we accomplished something, a good job.  I feel proud of myself, man.  I feel like a hero.

THUNDERBOLT:  (Watching him closely, very concerned) You all right kid?  You don't look so good.

LIGHTFOOT:  I believe you are right.  (Lightfoot slumps over, dead.)

THUNDERBOLT:  (Pulls the car off the road, takes off his sunglasses)  You all right, kid?  (He checks Lightfoot's pulse, holding his hand against his neck, and realizing he was dead, looks at him as the loss fills him.  He puts his sunglasses back on, breaks the cigar in half... and drives away.)

The end of that scene, Eastwood says so much without any words, and I'm also amazed at how much he was able to convey through facial expressions in that entire scene even when his sunglasses were ON.   Jeff Bridges is also amazing... I really love that scene.


Matt: Eastwood asks you to cast someone for the lead role in "Golf in the Kingdom".  He wants an underrated actor who comes cheap :)  Who do you choose?

Wow, who knows?  I'm SO out of touch with actors who aren't really VERY famous.  How old would this actor be?  Tell you what, if you can give me an idea of the age of this character, I'll try to think of someone.  I can pretty much guarantee you my answer will suck though.   :)

Matt : Same question that you asked me. When was it that you said "wow" to Eastwood, and really started to appreciate the man and his work, or wanted to find out more about him? Follow up: What attracted you to the web board? What was it about Eastwood and his films that you got to the stage of saying "I want to dedicate all of this time posting, discussing Eastwood, and reading the latest news!" I think for you I'd especially be interested because you don't really see that many films, and other than Eastwood, you're not really a movie fan, so I'd be interested to know what it was about him, and when that point was that you were like "wow." This guy is great!

Hey, AKA... that looks like two tags to me.  You want to know what attracted me to the web board, and what made me an Eastwood fan.  Make up your mind, son.  Pick one.   :D
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Post by: Matt on January 24, 2003, 10:01:18 PM
Tell you what, it's a Friday night and I have nothing better to do.  I'll answer them both, and then you'll have one less tag to have to come up with.  

I've told the story on the board a dozen times, sorry to all who are already sick of reading this.  ;)

It was about 1983, I was 18 and had never seen an Eastwood film or a western.   (Amazing compared to the rest of you who have been fans since early childhood.)   I actually didn't see much TV at all, but my older brother had a small television in his room, 14" screen, rabbit ear antennas, AWFUL reception... I wasn't allowed in his room, but he went out for the night so I snuck in there and started flipping channels.  I happened to come across the scene in Hang 'em High where they're about to hang Jed, when the old man says "Hang him".   As you can imagine, that grabs a person's attention.  I stopped flipping the channels, watched the scene, they hung him... the title flashed across the screen and I was like WOW!  This is cool!  I remember wondering who the actor was and on the commercial breaks the announcer said "We now return to Clint Eastwood in HANG 'EM HIGH!" and I remember thinking, "Oh, I've heard of him."  Well, the movie ended and I thought it was really great.  Couldn't believe I enjoyed a western.  Then they announced to stay tuned for the second of their double feature, "Clint Eastwood in HIGH PLAINS DRIFTER."  I thought "Cool, another one."  Jesus, I can't tell you how totally incredible watching that movie for the first time was... even on that crap TV with the lousy reception.   I was an instant fan by the end of the night.  As much as I love all Eastwood films, his westerns are still my favorites.  

Soon after that night, I went to B. Dalton's and looked for a book on Clint Eastwood so I could learn more about his movies, and they didn't have any.  >:(    But, I ordered "The Films of Clint Eastwood" by Boris Zmijewsky and Lee Pfeiffer and took note of all the names of the films he was in and started reading the TV Guide looking for those movies to be on.  I videotaped them and watched them over and over again.   I was a die hard fan by the time Sudden Impact came out and went to see that in the theater.  I was one of those annoying people that went around saying "Go ahead, make my day."  Even found that on a bumper sticker and slapped it on the bumper of my '84 Cavalier.  Ahhhh, those were the days.

As for how I found the web board, well I was just surfing and found the site, checked out the web board and read it for a while.  I read a lot of boards that I don't post on, and this one was no different.  You may never have heard from me if it wasn't for Gunny.  He really pissed me off with some anti-American statements and I registered just so I could give him a lashing.  So everyone who's sick of me can blame Gunny. :)  Once I started posting, I got addicted to it, mainly to the people that post here, who I think are really fun and great people.  

Tags coming up....
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: AKA23 on January 24, 2003, 10:05:19 PM
Ohhhh, you're so difficult my friend! I already owe 3 more tags!! I didn't view it as two different tags but if you do then forget about the web board part of the question, and focus on the what made you an Eastwood fan, "wow" this guy is really great part! hehe..

Ohh, and Matt, that's Jeff Bridges , not Jeff Daniels! I made the same mistake myself a couple of times, so it gave me a little laugh when I read that. Unless you'd like to compliment the illustrious Jeff Daniels (AKA Buddy Noone) for a performance that he didn't give ;)

Very nice performance. It garnered him an Oscar nomination for a film that wasn't the typical film targeted for any kind of Oscar consideration.
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: Matt on January 24, 2003, 10:08:40 PM
Oh damn... I finally made that mistake.  I can't tell you how many times I've ALMOST written "Daniels" instead of "Bridges".  I'll go fix it.   :-[

As you can see, I answered both.
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: AKA23 on January 24, 2003, 10:16:36 PM
Yeah, it's an easy mistake to make! No problem though Matt! It's not a big deal. Thanks for answering both questions pal! Okay, I got two more questions to go now :)
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: Matt on January 24, 2003, 11:52:18 PM
Attention!

We're gonna wrap this game up at the end of the weekend... at least for a little while.  We don't want to burn everyone out on the board with all the tagging and answering.  So, get all those burning questions you want to ask out of your system now, and on Sunday we'll stop tagging and leave the thread open only to answer the outstanding tags.  After a few weeks or months we'll start it up again.

I'm working on other ideas of things to do to keep us busy on the board everyday.   So keep checking back!

Here's my tags:

Red:  Out of all the child actors that Eastwood's directed, whose performance do you like the best?

AKA:  You see a beautiful young woman at Blockbuster... she's looking at renting a Vin Diesel film and notices you looking through the Eastwood section.  She asks if he's as good as Vin.   :o   What film would you hand her to try to convince this poor unfortunate creature that Eastwood blows Diesel away?  (And you have to convince her to watch it with you.   You know, just to make sure she has an educated Eastwood fan nearby to answer any questions she may have after watching it. ;) )

mgk:  You've been a fan of Eastwood since Rawhide, right?  If so you should be able to answer this...  After knowing Eastwood as the clean, kindly Rowdy Yates, do you remember what you thought the first time you saw him on the big screen?  Which movie was it?  What I'm hoping here is if you remember being blown away by the difference in his character from Yates to the "Man with No Name" or Harry Callahan roles.

MC:  Which film of Eastwood's were you most unimpressed with.  What was it about the film that you didn't like?  (If it's Blood Work, please answer with your next choice since you already answered this on Blood Work)  Sorry if this is so close to the last time I tagged you, but I love your critiques of the films.

Doug:  I'm gonna steal one of AKA's questions here... I remember you wrote once that you had been reading the board a long time before posting... what was it that got you to finally sign up and talk to us?  Was there a particular discussion that really interested you or that you wanted to post your views on?

Xichado:  Which of Eastwood's films did you not like that much the first time you saw it, but that you really grew to love the more you watched it.  (We had this topic on the board, but I don't think you posted in it.)
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: AKA23 on January 25, 2003, 01:22:53 AM
Attention!

We're gonna wrap this game up at the end of the weekend... at least for a little while.  We don't want to burn everyone out on the board with all the tagging and answering.  So, get all those burning questions you want to ask out of your system now, and on Sunday we'll stop tagging and leave the thread open only to answer the outstanding tags.  After a few weeks or months we'll start it up again.

I'm working on other ideas of things to do to keep us busy on the board everyday.   So keep checking back!

Ahhhh..NOOOO! Other ideas? I love this idea. Personally, I'd like to see this game continue. I don't see why we necessarily need to stop it. What does everyone else think? I thought it was a brilliant idea, and it really adds a lot to the board. We all get to know each other a bit better, the questions are fun and interesting, and it gives us all something to think about :) Unless it really is becoming difficult for everyone to keep up or there's a general consensus that the originality is wearing away, I'd be up for keeping the game going!  ;D Who's with me?  :D
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: AKA23 on January 25, 2003, 01:35:35 AM
Two more of my questions:

Ally : What is it about Eastwood that you like so much? You've dedicated an awful lot of your time to Eastwood (especially with that dissertation) and I'd guess that, like me, you're not real popular with your love of Eastwood at such an early age. I doubt that there's really a lot of young women like yourself around in your circles who share your passion for Eastwood. What is it about Eastwood, and what attracts you to these films that may seem a bit atypical and uncharacteristic of what the mainstream would call the "normal" thing? If you'd like, you can include a discussion of when you really fell in love with Eastwood..what film you were watching..what it was about that film...etc....

Stranger : It seems that a lot of us have favorites from Eastwood films that are widely different depending on when we first started watching Eastwood, or what we grew up with, but even with that, there are certain classic Eastwood films (like Dirty Harry for example) that seem to be appreciated as a "favorite" no matter what the generation. Are there certain films that really transcend those types of things? Why do you think that is that some films seem to be so widely appreciated in Eastwood circles across the different generations of Eastwood fans, and does that have something to do with it? I notice that I like several films from the 90's perhaps because that was the time that he was making movies for me, the movies I first saw in the theater, or were exposed to, or that were more or less set in "my" time period, but I can also make a very good case that I like them because the 90's was truly one of the best decades for Eastwood films. Do you see a conflict here, and what would you say about those interesting things that I pointed out here?  
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: AKA23 on January 25, 2003, 01:58:39 AM
Attention!

AKA:  You see a beautiful young woman at Blockbuster... she's looking at renting a Vin Diesel film and notices you looking through the Eastwood section.  She asks if he's as good as Vin.   :o   What film would you hand her to try to convince this poor unfortunate creature that Eastwood blows Diesel away?  (And you have to convince her to watch it with you.   You know, just to make sure she has an educated Eastwood fan nearby to answer any questions she may have after watching it. ;) )

Geez, what is this? First I'm scoring at the movie theater, now I'm picking up a "beautiful young woman" at the video store! I think people are trying to tell me something here! I need a more exciting life! I don't DO any of these things. Well, hopefully we'd have something in common, or we'd "click" or something, otherwise I could just recommend a film and she'd just hate it and then where would I be then!  ;) I don't really know. I think this poor beautiful creature probably likes Vin for his hot body or something ridiculous like that..hehe..there's no other reason to like him...so picking one of my favorite Eastwood films from the 90's wouldn't really be helping the cause. We'd need a film where Eastwood was in his prime here. I'd recommend High Plains Drifter or one of his other westerns...but I don't know if she likes westerns. Most girls don't like westerns. I think I'd ask her what kinds  of films she likes...my inclination is to pick one of his great westerns where he's playing the rugged individualist anti-hero type character, or one of his great films from the 90's, but that probably wouldn't work with this girl. I'd just be concerned that I'd want to pick something that she'd want to watch. Hmmmmm....who the hell knows? haha...if we're going for sheer Eastwood cool factor, nothing beats Dirty Harry but that one is quite violent, and has a few shocking scenes for the uninitiated, and this girl probably wouldn't be a huge fan of all that violence. For this girl who likes Vin Diesel, I don't really know Matt. None of Vin Diesel's films are even remotely similar to Clint's! You can't even try to compare them! I think I may just chance that she likes westerns, and pick The Outlaw Josey Wales . It's a great film, it's PG and doesn't have a lot of graphic violence so if the girl didn't like that, I'd be covered. It IS a western, but it's a good film, I like it, and Clint's character is really cool, he looks good, etc...there are a lot of issues to discuss and reflect upon...and it's a good exposure to Eastwood as well. Sounds like a good first time Eastwood experience to me!

As far as getting her to watch it with me, I don't know about that one. That's a tough one Matt! Perhaps you could give me some advice!  :P All I know is wanna go hoist some oysters is probably not the way to go!
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: mgk on January 25, 2003, 07:00:44 AM
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From Matt to mgk:  You've been a fan of Eastwood since Rawhide, right?  If so you should be able to answer this...  After knowing Eastwood as the clean, kindly Rowdy Yates, do you remember what you thought the first time you saw him on the big screen?  Which movie was it?  What I'm hoping here is if you remember being blown away by the difference in his character from Yates to the "Man with No Name" or Harry Callahan roles.

Well, you got your wish...I was blown away just like everyone else was when "little Rowdy Yates" appeared on the big screen in Fistful of Dollars as the Man With No Name.  The maturity level of Clint Eastwood jumped from being a naive young sidekick on Rawhide to what appeared to be a much older man, mature beyond his years, and hardened by life when he appeared in that first spaghetti western.  

Both characters...Rowdy Yates and the Man with No Name...usually found trouble.  But, Rowdy found his trouble because his naivity and immaturity led him there and he often needed help to get out of it.  The Man with No Name found trouble because he was looking for it with an intent to erase it and didn't need anyone else to help him.

Fistful of Dollars shocked the movie-going public in 1964 because of its new approach to a hero of a western movie.  The Man with No Name was more of an anti-hero with character flaws that ran as deep as our own.  Compared to the run of the mill good guys who had been starring in westerns, this was different and most all of the movie goers liked it.  However, critics , who felt it was their job to protect the general public from any and every thing that might corrupt them, criticized it for its negative impact on the Christian morality of the so-called masses.


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From AKA to MGK: : I know that you wouldn't show any Eastwood films to your fourth grade class, and I agree with that, but I saw Eastwood films at a very early age (as I've related on the board many times) and I really don't feel that I've been done any psychological or permanent damage by having watched them at an earlier age. Is it possible, in your estimation, that even though I did see some of these films early on, that the fact that maybe I was a bit more interested (I don't even want to say mature, because I'm not sure that's the right word for it.) might mean that some kids may just be able to handle it, and think critically about it, and be able to appreciate it at an earlier age, and not really be doing any permanent damage to themselves or their development? I know that you wouldn't recommend it, and I wouldn't either to be honest, but I think having had the experience, and not having felt that I've really been transformed negatively by it (and in fact there may have been some positive aspects to it, I think I'm qualified to at least ask the question, or explore the possibilities. What do you think about that possibility?

AKA, there is a huge distinction to be made here.  My opinion as to what is appropriate for young people to see in the theater is always based on the maturity level of each individual young person.  But, if you are in a school setting, it is imperative that you err on the side of caution because you, as a teacher or a principal, do not have the final word on what students should be able to see and at what age.  That is a parent's God given right and educators have no right to intrude on the guidelines the parents have set whether you agree with them or not.

Almost every young person has seen every movie they ever wanted to see by the time they are 17 or 18 years old whether they should have seen them or not.  Did some of those movies have a negative influence on them?  Maybe.  Did some of those movies have a negative influence on all of them?  No.  AKA, did you see Eastwood movies in a school setting or did you see them because your parents thought you were mature enough to see them...or, maybe you saw them without your parents' permission?

The bottom line is that it is not my ultimate privilege, as a teacher,  to determine what movies someone else's child can or cannot see.  It isn't even my privilege to determine what someone else's child can watch at my home...those decisions should be left up to the individual parents; it is their right to determine that.

The original question that KC asked me was how old I thought young people needed to be before they could fully understand the complexities of the movie Unforgiven.  She didn't ask me whether I thought it was okay for them to see it outside of a school setting or whether it was okay if they saw it for pure entertainment value whether they could understand it or not.  I stand by what I said earlier that I think mature 17 or 18 year old young people can understand what  Unforgiven is about if they are watching the film with the proper guidance.  But, it is important to remember that it is extremely difficult to find an entire class of students, even honors students, who are at the same level of maturity and it is irresponsible to gamble with the one or two who may be immature and unable to understand what you are presenting to them.

I could go on and on here but even I'm tired of listening to myself talk.  I'm glad you don't feel that watching Eastwood movies early in your life was harmful to you in any way and I hope you are right.  But, your decision to watch them at whatever age you chose to watch them is between you and your parents and not something I, as a teacher or even as another parent, should have any influence on.

mgk
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: Smith&Wesson44 on January 25, 2003, 08:44:20 AM
Ahhhh..NOOOO! Other ideas? I love this idea. Personally, I'd like to see this game continue. I don't see why we necessarily need to stop it. What does everyone else think? I thought it was a brilliant idea, and it really adds a lot to the board. We all get to know each other a bit better, the questions are fun and interesting, and it gives us all something to think about :) Unless it really is becoming difficult for everyone to keep up or there's a general consensus that the originality is wearing away, I'd be up for keeping the game going!  ;D Who's with me?  :D

Other ideas?  There's a game I started in the trivia forum called complete the scene that not too many have looked at yet.  Check it out if you haven't already and if you like, jump in!
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: Matt on January 25, 2003, 09:21:33 AM
I could go on and on here but even I'm tired of listening to myself talk.

I'm not tired of it.  Man, what a post!  There's more wisdom in those paragraphs than I've ever read on this board.  

Really great to have you posting again, mgk.   :)
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: Matt on January 25, 2003, 12:33:12 PM
Personally, I'd like to see this game continue. I don't see why we necessarily need to stop it. What does everyone else think?

If a lot of people are still really enjoying this game and want to keep playing, we can keep it going a little longer.  I've been enjoying the game too, however, I feel if we keep it going too long, it will burn everyone out... people may start dreading seeing themselves tagged not only because the question might be really hard, but because coming up with new tags might be difficult.  I thought it would be a good idea to stop it before it got to that point, and then bring it back again later, when it was a little fresh again.

The board is really slow on the weekends lately... football fever?  So I don't know that there will be many people around to reply to this, but... if it seems to be a lot of great fun for the time being, let me know and we can keep it going a little longer.
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: AKA23 on January 25, 2003, 04:52:36 PM
Wow, the board is REALLY dead today. It MUST be due to Superbowl weekend! Anybody still out there?
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: Lilly on January 25, 2003, 06:35:49 PM
 :) Yeah Doug, I know what you mean:
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I know how it is with delaying the moment, but I hope you aren't let down after all the hype.
 I'm always careful of that, and I find that everyone has such varied opinions on films that I try to forget about reviews etc and just see it my way.  In this case, the sooner the better, I think. :D
Hey S&W, that's a great answer 8), thank you:
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Oh, let's see how philosophical this is for you...
I hope this is a good answer for you.

My favorite "character" in all the DH films is...

The Smith & Wesson Classic Model 29 .44 Magnum.  The blue steel, 8 3/8 inch barrel work of art.

Yes , it is an inanimate object, but I can't think of a more powerful object of symbolism in any film of the genre.  I look at the gun as a character.  Think of what it represents:  power.

The power of Harry over the criminal.  The .44 is where the power lies, it's the great equalizer.  When the bad guy is staring straight down the business end of the cannon, he knows that his days as a criminal are over, one way or the other, with him either in a jail cell or a body bag.  The .44 represents what I, the ordinary citizen, can only wish to do what Harry does.  Protect the innocent and run the hoods out of town.  To quote a line from Sudden Impact, "It's the one constant in an ever changing universe."  It's always there, always ready, to put the thugs down.

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There's a game I started in the trivia forum called complete the scene that
I did check out your "Complete the scene" game, and that's a great idea.  My knowledge of Dirty Harry isn't up to scratch, but I look forward to contributing in the future. :)
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: Lilly on January 25, 2003, 06:44:22 PM
good gosh all mighty i just written down a real long answer to all of my tags and then i got the message that i wasn't logged in  :'( :'( :'(
and everything is gone.........
this is just a check if everythin is working now......
Yeah palm, that's happened to me too :(, but did you see a "back" link on the error page that comes up?  When that first happened to me I thought I'd lost all my text, but clicking "back" brought it up so I could copy it before logging in again :).  When I'm writing a long post I usually copy it every so often, just in case. :)
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: Lilly on January 25, 2003, 08:07:42 PM
 :)Doug asked:
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You go to a dinner party and who are seated next to but Dina Eastwood ... what would be the one question you would most want to ask her about Clint?
 Gee that's tough; most questions would be unaskable! ;)  I can't think of much that isn't already in the public domain that wouldn't be prying.  I might ask her about that pot-bellied pig  ;D  Does Clint really have one and why ???, what does he call it, and does he talk to it? :D

(http://www.northrup.org/photos/animals-other/low/mother-pot-bellied-pig2-tn.jpg)

Smith&Weston44 asked:
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What (or who) first turned you on to Eastwood films?
 DAmbrosia asked me a similar question in the first thread of this game:
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What film caused you to become an Eastwood fan?
 
Much easier this one.  It was In The Line Of Fire, of course!  It was just a few months ago; I had of course heard of Clint, but never really noticed him before.  The movie was on the TV one night in our common room at university, and I started watching it while I ate my supper.  Of course I got hooked!  Clint was so good in that film, and the other actors and the script were great too.  So after that I thought I'd check out the internet for Clint stuff, and the rest is history.  I joined this board, got lots more Clint movies, and got to know all you cool people online here!
But to answer your question more precisely, there is also another point...the very first reason I noticed Clint was because he looks a bit like a guy that I sort of dated (and who I still have half an eye on  ;)).  People say he reminds them of Clint, so I thought "I must check out this Clint guy and see if he is as sexy as ___".  Trouble was he ended up being sexier than my guy  ::) :-* ;D

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You're obviously a great admirer of In the Line of Fire . Is that your favorite Eastwood film? I'm quite an admirer of it as well (it may be my favorite Eastwood flm), but I'm just wondering what it is about that film that you like so much? What is it about the film, and why do you choose it?
 I love In The Line Of Fire; it is a brilliant movie, and as I said above it was the first Clint film I watched, so it is special for me for that reason too.  However it isn't my very favourite Eastwood film.  Bridges of Madison County wins that contest, but if I had to rank it, it may well come second, or at least in the top five.  

I think the idea for the plot was brilliant - interfingering the fictional story with the real event of Kennedy's assassination gave the story an edge that is uncommon in most thrillers.  I'm not normally a huge fan of suspense/thriller movies, but this was an exception.  The screenplay was excellent, some of the dialogues were so well-constructed (see Matt's post on page 5 of the "Favorite Eastwood quotes" thread (http://www.clinteastwood.org/forums/index.php?board=3;action=display;threadid=42;start=60)), especially those over the phone between Horrigan and Leary, and the wonderful chemistry-laden flirtations between Frank and Lilly.  Malkovitch was a fantastic villain, and Russo was strong in her role.  The movie seemed to get the right mix of pace and suspense with gentler scenes developing the characters, and allowing the romance to flourish meaningfully, rather than as a standard "add-on", as often seems to be the case in films these days.  The role seemed to be perfect for Clint - the hero, but with plenty of the inner struggle that he likes to portray - and he acted superbly; the scene quoted in posts above, in which he talks about Dallas 1963, being a shining example.  I remember when I first watched the film being impressed by Clint's use of facial expression, especially in the scenes with Lilly.  The way he casts glances at her (when they eat ice cream on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial, for instance) conveyed the sexual tension wonderfully.  

I like the fact that a lot of thought had gone into trying to make the life of Secret Service agents realistic, attested to by this being the first film that was officially approved by the Secret Service, who assisted in its making.  Their input helped to ensure another point I liked about the film; the strong role of the main female character.  It was good to see Clint's lady friend being an independent capable professional, rather than a traditional helpless chick, and most of the time Lilly was dressed sensibly and appropriately, in trousers rather than some flouncy outfit.  Even the sex scene was done tastefully.  It can't have been easy to make a movie about extraordinary events and an extraordinary profession seem realistic, but that is what was largely achieved.  We saw into the life and inner feelings of a Secret Service agent, not the usual invincible action man.  

Petersen did a great job as director.  I'm not a fan of excessive superimposition and fancy shots in movies, but I thought the fading together of Frank's face with images from 1963 was very effective.  

And let's not forget another excellent Ennio Morricone score. :)

All the elements combined to make an entertaining film, that has a more thoughtful level as well.  Before this film I never owned a movie and had hardly ever seen a film more than once.  That soon changed, and I appreciated more each time I watched it.  

So, that's my bit said  ;), gotta go think up some tags...
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: AKA23 on January 25, 2003, 08:19:14 PM
I owe another two on account of that beautiful girl at Blockbuster:

KC : You seem to not really hold In the Line of Fire in as high a regard as a lot of us on the board. I was wondering why that was. It has a great script, great acting, and it's an interesting suspense/thriller. Are you not really a fan of these types of movies, or is it partly because it's the only film in the 90's that Eastwood didn't direct, and you'll automatically hold films that Eastwood directs above films that he didn't? How do you think the film would have been different if Eastwood directed it? I'm not sure we would have had the same type of film. This one seemed to have more action, be more suspenseful, have a bit of a faster pace, and I think that was good for this particular film. A lot of people criticize Eastwood's self-directed films for being too slow in pace, and this one wasn't. We know why he didn't direct it (or why he says he didn't direct it), but how do you think the film would have been different if he did in fact direct it, and would you have liked it better with the changes you feel he may have made to it as director?--I'll think up another one later.
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: Lilly on January 25, 2003, 08:31:20 PM
Hey Aka, I'm in the dark here - why did he say he didn't direct it  ???
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: AKA23 on January 25, 2003, 08:34:37 PM
He said that he wouldn't be able to do a good job on all of the promotional stuff and the post-production with A Perfect World as well as direct In the Line of Fire . He didn't want to have to deal with A Perfect World and In the Line of Fire around the same time, so he asked Wolfgang Petersen to direct, and he would only star.
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: Lilly on January 25, 2003, 08:46:35 PM
Cheers Aka  :)  Interesting...but I wonder if that's all there was to it   ???
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: AKA23 on January 25, 2003, 08:53:08 PM
Cheers Aka  :)  Interesting...but I wonder if that's all there was to it   ???

Me too. I'm sure that KC would be able to give you a more complete answer, but it looks like that's all there was to it and if there were other reasons for it, I don't think we'll ever really get an answer publicly. If you'll notice, it's also not a Malpaso Production, so all Clint really did for the film, as far as I know, was act in it, but what an acting job it was!
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: KC on January 25, 2003, 10:05:42 PM
I owe another two on account of that beautiful girl at Blockbuster:

KC : You seem to not really hold In the Line of Fire in as high a regard as a lot of us on the board. I was wondering why that was. It has a great script, great acting, and it's an interesting suspense/thriller. Are you not really a fan of these types of movies, or is it partly because it's the only film in the 90's that Eastwood didn't direct, and you'll automatically hold films that Eastwood directs above films that he didn't? How do you think the film would have been different if Eastwood directed it? I'm not sure we would have had the same type of film. This one seemed to have more action, be more suspenseful, have a bit of a faster pace, and I think that was good for this particular film. A lot of people criticize Eastwood's self-directed films for being too slow in pace, and this one wasn't. We know why he didn't direct it (or why he says he didn't direct it), but how do you think the film would have been different if he did in fact direct it, and would you have liked it better with the changes you feel he may have made to it as director?--I'll think up another one later.
AKA, can't you ask me one question instead of four or five?  ::) I still owe the answers to five tags from yesterday ...  :o
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Post by: Doug on January 25, 2003, 10:38:06 PM
Actually, Matt I got my first computer in 1997, so I imagine it wasn't too long after that that I thought of searching the web for Clint Eastwood, and this was the best site I found at that time.  (Still is, of course!)  So I saved it, and checked back every so often to search through it, listen to the RA's, and what not.  I don't remember seeing a message board at that time.  (When did that start?)  Finally, I did notice it, but I wasn't into posting on message boards, and one time I checked it out and saw a discussion about GBU, I believe.  I didn't check back again for a while.  Then for whatever impulse, I started looking in every now and then, and I remember being amazed at how knowledgeable everybody was about film in general and Clint in particular, and I thought I had nothing to add. Then in June 2001 I moved from Dayton Ohio to Las Vegas and in July I registered, but I don't think I posted anything right away.  At some point I did (obviously) but I can't remember what it was.  Probably something like what's your favorite western, or something like that, where I could give an opinion without feeling like I needed to be an expert.  I got involved mainly because I liked hearing what everybody had to say and it's been entertaining.  It's taken me forever to keep who's who straight in my mind, though. :D  And I will say I've learned so much from this board, and it's even revitalized my enthusiasm toward Clint -- not that I ever stopped being a fan, but up to about a year ago I'd only seen his movies after Unforgiven once.  So now I've made a point of seeing them all again, plus a lot of older ones I hadn't seen in a while, and I'm ready to watch them all over again.

Tags:

Daisy:  There's humor present in even the spaghetti westerns, as well as the movies he made afterward (even in his most violent movies), so how much do you think humor has contributed to the success of his career?

AKA: I know Clint has stated that The Gauntlet was partly a statement against excessive police violence (I'm paraphrasing, obviously), but do you think the movie comes across to an extent as an anti-police movie?  (Heck, he's the hero, but he doesn't get his act together, so to speak, and stop drinking until after he's put into the position of having to defy the police.)  
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Post by: Lilly on January 25, 2003, 11:15:33 PM
I quite agree Palm:
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Lilly has asked me what i want to see on a special edition of BOMC.
That's a long story Lil.
First of all i'd like to see some scenes from the book "BOMC the film" cos there was more filmed than we got to see. I am especially interested in that scene after they said goodbye for the last time and obviously she ran after him outside ( if you study the last scene closely where she stands near the gate, something isn't right in my opinion, she is all sweaty and her hair is a bit messed up !!!! Look at it another time and you shall see it too).
Than i would like to hear and see Meryl and Clint's experience on how it was to work on BOMC together (in some sort of duo interview).
And last but not least i would love to see some bloopers (if there where any of course).
It is going to be a special 2-dvd edition so it's going to be pricy    

Yeah, I'd love to see the cut scenes, especially the one you mention, and another one shown in the book but not in the film is them having breakfast the morning after they first get together.  That looked like it could have been a good scene.  
Bloopers would be fun.  From the photos in the book of Clint and Meryl on-set, it looks like they had a good relationship; there must have been some fun moments caught on camera.  I'd like to see a "making of" documentary on the DVD.  Perhaps also a five minute feature on rural Iowa and it's people would be good (it's a much maligned state, and BOMC helped to put it on the map as being more than just cornfields and hicks), maybe with some short interviews with the people of Winterset who worked as extras (in the cafe scene).  A featurette on the music in the movie might have been cool, with Clint talking about his composition of Doe Eyes.  

And of course WIDESCREEN would be a must! :)
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Post by: AKA23 on January 26, 2003, 12:08:31 AM
Sure, KC. I see two linked questions there, but you're right, it is more than one question. If you'd like, you can just answer how you feel it would have been different if Eastwood directed it, but I was also really interested as to why the film seems to be a favorite of a lot of people, yet you don't hold it in a very high regard yourself. I was interested in why as well, which is probably why I asked both questions. They're really tied together, and might naturally flow in a discussion on the film, but if it helps for you to answer just one, you can do that too I suppose. I didn't realize that you had so many tags!! I'm sorry KC. :(
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Post by: AKA23 on January 26, 2003, 12:42:10 AM
You can always hold off on answering my question tomorrow or really whenever you feel that you have time or want to do it. Feel free to postpone it if you like. I'm going to bed now anyway, so I'll answer Doug's question some time tomorrow. Feel free to put my question down as last priority if you're feeling pressured KC.
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Post by: allycat on January 26, 2003, 06:04:30 AM
Eep! Can I say eep? I don't know how I can possibly keep up with all the questions I have to answer - I've had to be away for 2 weeks because I had a phenomenal amount of work to do. In the past two weeks I've written the equivalent of my Clint dissertation - 10,000 words! I've just had to stay indoors all the time working, it hasn't been much fun at all, I can tell you. So I apologise for not keeping up with this, but I didn't have a choice. I'll try and answer your questions after I've had my lunch. Sorry I've been away, I missed you all very much!

Love ally xxxxx
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Post by: Xichado on January 26, 2003, 11:19:36 AM
Xichado:  Since you are familiar with F. Scott Fitzgerald, is there a book that Fitzgerald wrote that you would like to see Eastwood make into a film?
MGK,
I was going to say that I am not able to answer your question because the only F.S. Fitzgerald book I ever read was “Tender is the night” and that was almost 10 years ago. The first time I ever heard of Zelda Fitzgerald was from a Janis Joplin’s biography and it captured my attention, then I read Zelda: A biography and WOW  :o what a woman, what a life and of course her husband was a great part, if not the greatest, of her life.

I have seen the Great Gatsby and it was the kind of movie that just didn’t click for me :-\. I talked with some friends that are familiar with F.S. Fitzgerald’s work and arrived to the following conclusion: F.S. Fitzgerald’s work is a very auto-biographical work and both him and Zelda are the main characters of his work, in different stages of their lives… which I already knew from Zelda’s biography.

Since Fitzgerald’s work is about the Fitzgeralds, one question appears in my mind: which book reflects best the Fitzgeralds and their lives and, at the same time, I would like to see Eastwood make into a film?

My first though was “Tender Is The Night”, because it’s a more mature book and reflects upon everything the Fitzgerald came across. BUT… there is also the feminine version of this book. It’s called “Save Me The Waltz” by Zelda Fitzgerald, the only book she ever wrote and some say it’s a distorted “Tender Is The Night”.  Zelda, by the early 1930’s was already in a mental institution, read a draft of “Tender Is The Night” and I think she realized it was the resume of their lives and in turn she decided to write her side of the story.

“Tender is the night” or “Save me the waltz”? “Save me the waltz” or “Tender is the night”? MGK, I cannot make up my mind. It’s hard to decide.

I would like to see these books coming to life in a movie (“Tender is the night” was already made into a movie, but I’ve never seen it) and I think the only way to do it is to make a movie about the Fitzgeralds’ life and reveal how all of the characters in both Scott’s and Zelda’s work were created, how they [the Fitzgeralds] lived their life and how much of that life is reflect in their work.
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Post by: KC on January 26, 2003, 12:23:38 PM
All right, this is REALLY inferiorating. I worked hard to answer all my tags ... hit "Preview" ... and got an error message "Your message is too long. Please go back and shorten it, and resubmit." And when I hit "Back" ... IT WAS ALL GONE!  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

At least, I had composed most of it off line.  ::)

I'll be back shortly, with the condensed version, or with a version in two installments.  >:(
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Post by: Matt on January 26, 2003, 12:27:01 PM
I've had a problem using the preview button too.  I had gotten an error message a couple of times that I couldn't use parenthesis in HTML tags.   (I don't even know what that means.)   When I hit "back", the message was gone.  And I've lost some good length posts too.  Now, whenever I type a really long post, I automatically block and copy it, then try to post it.  Just in case I lose it, I can paste it back in.  

Sorry to hear that happened to you.  Man, that must have been a lot of work to be too long for a post.  I've never seen a message like that.
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Post by: KC on January 26, 2003, 12:33:09 PM
I owe SIX tags from Friday, and one from yesterday. First, Friday's:


KC: I don't know your taste in music, so I'd like to know: if Clint was going to use a film to promote one kind of music other than jazz/blues, what would you like it to be?  Any particular song(s)/artist(s)?
Well, the only kind of music I'm really fond of is classical music (and some Swedish popular music, but let's not go into that). And my favorite varieties of classical music are opera and the art song. Clint already did a movie that featured two opera arias on the soundtrack (I'm sure you know which), so maybe he could do one about a washed up Lieder singer journeying to Carnegie Hall in search of one more comeback ... in the dead of winter, and his car keeps breaking down ... Soundtrack by Schubert: "Die Winterreise."


KC - You've been around on this board for as long as I can remember, probably ever since I put it up. What keeps you here doing what you do (and will you promise to keep doing it  ;D ) ?  

Well, there are days when I want to say, with Josey Wales ...
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Because I got nothing better to do!

Or even with Harry ...
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I don't know. I really don't.

But MOST days, I don't think I could do any better than repeat Cal's own words from this same post ... the ones Matt already quoted:

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It's been fun, I continue to enjoy it and my only hope is that it's a worthy enough Web site to be associated with The Man With No Name.

And also, I enjoy interacting with all the great people who come here!


KC
I may be wrong and I really don't know much about Kyle_Clint's son_ but  although some physical resemblance between them I think Kyle hasn't not even half of Clint's striking presence. I mean,it is not always, star's sons inherit the talent their fathers. I know he isn't actor but "comparing" him to Clint, what are your impressions about Kyle Eastwood?
Kyle was fine as a young teenager in Honkytonk Man. Clint said he thought he had something of a "thirties look" about him, and I'd agree. Other than that, I haven't seen much of him, except in his couple of cameo roles and in photographs ... Yes, it's occurred to me that whatever "it" is that Clint has, Kyle plainly hasn't got "it," but that doesn't bother me, in the first place because Clint is one of a kind, and in the second place because Kyle isn't in the acting profession, as you note ... not that he probably couldn't have been a successful actor, even a leading man, had he applied himself in that profession ... just not the same kind of screen presence and superstar that his father is.

Or for another example, Michael Douglas looks a lot like his father, all the more now as he ages, and he's a fine actor, but I don't think anyone would ever think of him in the same superstar terms as Kirk Douglas. Lightning just doesn't (often) strike twice in the same place.


KC: Spike Lee, in criticizing Bird, argued that the film failed to place Charlie Parker's life in an African American context, since the two closest figures to him in the film are both white (Chan and Red). Do you agree or disagree, and why?
Well, since the screenplay was largely based on Chan Richardson's memoirs (and written by a white guy), there was no way the story was going to be wholly within an "African American context," and I don't see why it should have been. Eastwood wasn't interested in telling an "African American story," he was interested in telling a story about a jazz musician, a creative genius, a complicated, difficult, brilliant, tormented, tormenting, loving individual. If he had tried to place this story wholly within an "African American context," no doubt Lee and others would have criticized him for having the effrontery to do so when he is not African American himself.


KC: The appropriate age for young people to view an Eastwood movie has come up before.  So, let me ask you the same question you asked of me.  What age do you think is appropriate for someone to view Unforgiven and be able to grasp the full understanding?  Do you think younger than 17 or 18 year olds can understand it or do you think someone should be even older?
Well, one reason I asked you that question was because you've raised a child, and you've been a schoolteacher. I've never done either, and I don't have much contact with kids. From my own experience growing up ... I think I could have "gotten" Unforgiven, or much of it, when I was in high school, maybe even in the ninth or tenth grade. But I don't think many of my schoolmates could have. It's another question as to whether it would have appealed to me then ... I didn't like Westerns, at all, when I was that age.


To shorten this post, I'll stop here and continue in a new one ...
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Post by: KC on January 26, 2003, 12:38:15 PM
My last tag from Friday ... an "easy" one from AKA ...  ::) ;)


KC : Hopefully this will be a relatively easy one for you! I know that you've answered my question on how you became a Clint fan, but I was wondering what it was about Unforgiven that got you into the seat in the theater! You remarked that if it wasn't for that film, you probably never would have seen an Eastwood film, so why was this film attractive to you? You didn't know much about Eastwood, you didn't watch many films, so was it that you were attracted to the Western genre? Did you hear good things about it from friends? Read reviews about it? What was it about the film Unforgiven ?
Well, by the time Unforgiven came out, I had begun to appreciate this "American art form" (as Eastwood calls it), the Western, and I was seeking out classics of the genre when they turned up in repertory cinemas. So I might have gone to see the film just because it was the first true Western to get a full theatrical release in several years, and because I knew of Eastwood's reputation as an actor in Westerns (I didn't really know much about Eastwood the director, at the time).

Besides, it got a good review (by Vincent Canby, Aug. 7, 1992) in the New York Times ...

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Time has been good to Clint Eastwood. If possible, he looks even taller, leaner and more mysteriously possessed than he did in Sergio Leone’s seminal Fistful of Dollars a quarter of a century ago. The years haven’t softened him. They have given him the presence of some fierce force of nature, which may be why the landscapes of the mythic, late 19th-century West become him, never more so than in his new Unforgiven. As written by David Webb Peoples and directed by Mr. Eastwood, Unforgiven is a most entertaining western that pays homage to the great tradition of movie westerns while surreptitiously expressing a certain amount of skepticism ...

... and the story line as reported there sounded interesting. But I think more than anything else, it was the poster ... which was exhibited all summer in a supersized variant looming over Times Square, on my way to work in the mornings. It was so different, so dark and mysterious, compared to most movie promotions of the time (which typically showed a male star's big head staring straight at the camera). I once wrote an essay about the poster as an introduction to a screening of the film in a film studies class. Here are a few excerpts from that.

(http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/34/003_UNFORGIARP.jpg)

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This image from the poster for Unforgiven will serve as well as anything can to illustrate the film’s principal concerns. It shows us the back of the main character, presenting him as a strong, powerful man, no longer young, facing away from the spectator as if to conceal himself and the entire burden of his being from our scrutiny, yet confronting us with a measure of his strength, and with his head turned just enough our way so that in the nearly lost profile no one will fail to recognize him, or at least the actor and filmmaker who stood model: Clint Eastwood, the director/star of the film the image promotes. Thus the filmmaker’s celebrity, or notoriety, which he cannot or will not entirely elude, symbolizes the character’s past notoriety, a part of his being that cannot be severed from the present anonymity in which he seeks to extinguish it, fervently as he might wish it. But does he really wish it so fervently? More important, do we?

The image is dark, on the side towards the spectator, suggesting the darkness of the auditorium from which the character will be observed, but also the darkness of the past he has turned his back on. However it is dark in front of him too ... and much of the significant action of the film will be played out in darkness or semidarkness ... and portray or recall the darkest of deeds. But proceeding from an unknown source, just enough light strikes the figure to ignite a rim of brightness around it, touching also the bit of the face we are privileged to view, and the hands clasped behind his back, holding— but we will return to that presently. This is a lighting effect much favored by Eastwood is his films ... It can ... suggest, as it seems to here, that a character so distinguished is singled out in some way by a light of unearthly origin, but more likely one emanating from an infernal, rather than a celestial, source.

... Because behind his back, concealed from potential spectators in his diegetic world, but affronting the gaze of those who will witness his drama from the safety of the cinema auditorium, the man holds a huge revolver. Whatever this means to his detractors, for his admirers it completes the picture in a satisfying way, for they expect no less from Clint Eastwood when he stars in a Western. ... Though he is portraying a character who is really quite unlike the others in the string of indomitable loners, flawed heroes and mysterious wraiths that constitute the majority of his most memorable previous screen appearances, he cannot but be aware that he is drawing on the audience’s memory of them, both to intensify the impression of the character’s violent but triumphant past, and to augment the humor (for Unforgiven is also a very funny film) of seeing the film’s leading player continually frustrated in his exertions to control the things he ought to be able to handle best, his horse and his gun.


Be back shortly with my answer to Saturday's tag ... another AKA special ...  ;)
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Post by: KC on January 26, 2003, 12:43:20 PM

And now I owe another one from yesterday, thanks to AKA ... here's his tag as originally stated ...
KC : You seem to not really hold In the Line of Fire in as high a regard as a lot of us on the board. I was wondering why that was. It has a great script, great acting, and it's an interesting suspense/thriller. Are you not really a fan of these types of movies, or is it partly because it's the only film in the 90's that Eastwood didn't direct, and you'll automatically hold films that Eastwood directs above films that he didn't? How do you think the film would have been different if Eastwood directed it? I'm not sure we would have had the same type of film. This one seemed to have more action, be more suspenseful, have a bit of a faster pace, and I think that was good for this particular film. A lot of people criticize Eastwood's self-directed films for being too slow in pace, and this one wasn't. We know why he didn't direct it (or why he says he didn't direct it), but how do you think the film would have been different if he did in fact direct it, and would you have liked it better with the changes you feel he may have made to it as director?--I'll think up another one later.

And then as condensed, at my request ...  ::)
Sure, KC. I see two linked questions there, but you're right, it is more than one question. If you'd like, you can just answer how you feel it would have been different if Eastwood directed it, but I was also really interested as to why the film seems to be a favorite of a lot of people, yet you don't hold it in a very high regard yourself. I was interested in why as well, which is probably why I asked both questions. They're really tied together, and might naturally flow in a discussion on the film, but if it helps for you to answer just one, you can do that too I suppose. I didn't realize that you had so many tags!! I'm sorry KC. :(

Good night, AKA, can't you just accept that some people don't share your opinions?  ;) I saw In the Line of Fire less than a year after Unforgiven, it was the second or third film I had ever seen Eastwood in, and while I was perfectly satisfied with it as an entertaining and competent thriller, and I enjoyed Eastwood's performance, I simply didn't think of it in the same terms as Unforgiven; it's not in the same class in terms of narrative complexity, imagery (sheerly visual and symbolic), nuanced characterizations from every major and most minor performers, musical accompaniment (spare me another routine Morricone score, please!), moral problematics ... you name it. In short, Unforgiven was my moviegoing experience of the decade, In the Line of Fire was just another movie I saw in 1993 (and not nearly as memorable as Eastwood's other 1993 release, A Perfect World). I'm happy to watch it again, but I wouldn't travel to another state to do so (as I did once for Unforgiven). It's like the difference between, say, Le Rouge et le Noir and a newsstand paperback that you grab to read on an airplane.

As to how it would have been different if Clint had directed it ...aside from a different use of music, fewer closeups and point-of-view shots for his own character, and darker scenes, probably there would have been fewer big crowd scenes and more intimate ones. I don't think, however, that it would necessarily have been any better, just different.

Let me add, though, that I thought and still think In the Line of Fire was head and shoulders over the other major thriller release of the summer (which outgrossed it at the box office), The Fugitive. At least it had a couple of well-drawn characters. The Fugitive was nothing but plot.


I owe NINE tags. Hope to get them in before the deadline.
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Post by: Christopher on January 26, 2003, 02:22:52 PM
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I have seen the Great Gatsby and it was the kind of movie that just didn&#8217;t click for me
Interesting that this subject matter should come up now, I finished the book, The Great Gatsby, today. Excellent book! It was one of those books that I just didn't want to put down.

Now, I owe a couple of questions:

Doug: If you could only buy one more Eastwood DVD to add to your collection, which would it be?

KC: I have no idea how you feel about Martin Scorsese, and I have no idea how you felt about the answer I gave to your question, so I'll ask you the same thing: Can you picture Clint in any of Scorsese's movies to date?

Lilly: Since you're a newer Clint Eastwood fan, how is it that you came to this site? Was there something about him that just made you want to look him up on the internet? (I'm asking this because there are actors that I like, but I've never tried to find any sites devoted to them)

William: Who's your favorite Eastwood co-star?
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Post by: Xichado on January 26, 2003, 02:24:32 PM
Xichado: I loved your question to mgk regarding that great line by Zelda Fitzgerald.  I'd like to know which other poet you would like to see included in an Eastwood film (maybe by just using lines from his/her peoms, or perhaps by using a script about his/her life).
Hey Lilly,
This is even harder than MGK’s question. Mainly because I don’t think that the poetry I read would fit in any Eastwood movie (well, except for the BMC).

The poetry I read can be divided into three areas: Portuguese (from different periods), Romantic (mainly Novalis, Shelley) and XX century american/british poetry (mainly Edna St. Vincent Millay, Ted Hughes and, of course, the last of the great poets: Jim Morrison).

I tried to think of a way to mingle Eastwood with the poetry I read BUT I find myself in a dead end: artistically, they are in opposite ends. And if I were to include lines from poems in the BMC then I would have to choose the poems of Camões (aka Camoens), 1524?-1580. Portugal’s most beloved poet and a romantic at heart, lived a life full of misfortunes and adventure, loved deeply his women (from a slave to a noble woman, from a Portuguese woman to a Chinese woman) and, due to life’s misfortunes – sometimes caused by these women-, ended up alone and impoverished… on the other end, he embellished the Portuguese language and gave his nation its epic “The Lusiadas”. Here’s one of his poems, to one of his “ladies” and something that Robert Kincaid could easily whisper into Francesca’s ear…

“My lady,
If some jealous god should snatch thee from my sight
In all thy loveliness of snow and rose,
And no longer might I see those eyes
Whose splendor is the sun’s despair,
Never could he tear thy image from my heart,
So sealed and dedicated to thee,
There it is and there it stands
Impregnable against all assaults of fate”

But I don’t see Eastwood making a movie about him, mainly because it would be a 1500’s Portuguese period movie and, honestly, I can’t picture Eastwood doing it, just not his style.

In the meantime I have been reading “The Book of Disquiet” by Bernardo Soares, one of Fernando Pessoa’s heteronym. Fernando Pessoa (1888-1935) was another Portuguese poet .I think a movie based in his life would be a very artistic piece and, yes, I would see Eastwood doing it.

Fernando Pessoa was born in Portugal and was raised in South Africa, returned to Portugal when he was 17 and lived most part of his life within the city of Lisbon. Lived alone in a furnished bedroom. And was the major influence in the Portuguese avant-garde literature. What’s so peculiar about him? Well, he was 6 different poets/writers. Pessoa was so gifted that he “created” 5 new different artists within himself, to which Pessoa called heteronyms. These heteronyms all wrote in different styles and had different personalities, different biographies and different ways of seeing the world… Pessoa would often write to newspapers/magazines and express, using his own name or one of his heteronyms, a critic or support to another one of his heteronyms, playing this way an artistic chess game with the Portuguese literature movement of the 1920’s.

Pessoa explained these artistic mutations, by writing “I created myself, echo and abyss, by thinking. I multiplied myself by going into myself”  in the Book of Disquiet, which happens to be the prose diary of a lonely man and his reflection of the world, his dreams, his random thoughts. Pessoa worked in this book for the last 2 decades of his life and he never completed it, the disordered scraps were found in a trunk after Pessoa’s death (together with thousands of unpublished poems by the different heteronyms) and the book was only publisher in 1982. I am currently reading the English version.

Pessoa remains a mystery, a gifted one. And I would like to see his life in the big screen, see the birth of these heteronyms and the “game” Pessoa played with them.
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Post by: KC on January 26, 2003, 02:48:41 PM
Interesting reflections on Camões and Pessoa, Xichado ... who translated the Camões excerpt? It reads well in English.  8)
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: KC on January 26, 2003, 06:27:53 PM
I'm going to post a couple of the tags I owe now, and will try to get to the others in the course of the evening.

mgk: What female character in an Eastwood film do you think is the best match for the character Eastwood plays in that film (regardless of whether he "gets lucky"! ;) )

MC: What is the most disturbing or troubling moment for you in an Eastwood film?

Matt:  Eastwood's characters have been fathers or father surrogates in a lot of films besides A Perfect World. What's your favorite "father-son moment" from one of them? Or "father-daughter moment," if you prefer. ;)
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Post by: AKA23 on January 26, 2003, 07:18:02 PM

AKA: I know Clint has stated that The Gauntlet was partly a statement against excessive police violence (I'm paraphrasing, obviously), but do you think the movie comes across to an extent as an anti-police movie?  (Heck, he's the hero, but he doesn't get his act together, so to speak, and stop drinking until after he's put into the position of having to defy the police.)  

As far as Clint's character is concerned, Ben Shockley is just another one in a long line of Eastwood's fallible, human, yet still convincing and effective characters. He gets the job done, but he isn't perfect, and he has his own difficulties, his own insecurities, his own problems. He's an interesting character because he is so fallible. He is so broken up at times. His abuse of alcohol only contributes to building that kind of a fallible persona. He has to be. Everybody doubted that he could get the job done, that he could take on the corruption and prevail against seemingly insurmountable, certainly overwhelming odds, but he did it. It's an Eastwood character, and we expect nothing less.

In regards to the way the police are portrayed in the film, certainly it isn't complimentary. The police hierarchy is involved in everything, and so there's a lot of corruption and misbehavior on the part of the police but let's remember that the police in this film, at least at the lower levels, aren't doing anything wrong. They are just following orders. They're given the wrong orders and the wrong information in regards to Ben and Malley, and when they figure out what's going on, they stop, and they don't continue to pursue him. They realize when Ben exposes the hierarchy that they shouldn't follow the orders of the corrupt leaders, and they don't. In a way, that does show the police in a good light. Sure, it's over the top, and the film does very effectively satirize excessive police violence, but the film as a whole I don't feel is hostile to the police as an institution. Like many Clint films, it exposes the corruption within the institution, and it dispenses the aproppriate form of justice in regards to the perpetrators of that violence and that misbehavior, and the police hierarchy are involved in all of that, but I don't feel that it's necessarily across the board a scathing critique of the law enforcement community, no.  
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Post by: mgk on January 26, 2003, 07:35:08 PM
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From KC to mgk:  What female character in an Eastwood film do you think is the best match for the character Eastwood plays in that film (regardless of whether he "gets lucky"!  )

Good question, KC!!!!!

And, I thought I knew what my answer was going to be immediately...then I made the mistake of thinking about it a little longer and remembered some others.  Now, I have to go and REALLY give it some thought.

mgk
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Post by: KC on January 26, 2003, 08:32:33 PM
As far as Clint's character is concerned, Ben Shockley is just another one in a long line of Eastwood's fallible, human, yet still convincing and effective characters. He gets the job done, but he isn't perfect, and he has his own difficulties, his own insecurities, his own problems. He's an interesting character because he is so fallible. He is so broken up at times. His abuse of alcohol only contributes to building that kind of a fallible persona. He has to be. Everybody doubted that he could get the job done, that he could take on the corruption and prevail against seemingly insurmountable, certainly overwhelming odds, but he did it. It's an Eastwood character, and we expect nothing less.
AKA, as a matter of record ... at the time The Gauntlet came out (1977), Shockley represented a very different sort of Eastwood character, especially for his cop movies. Up till then, he'd been the cop as superhero ... Coogan to a certain extent and of course, even more so, Harry Callahan. He is clean cut, cool and absolutely infallible, when it comes to defending the innocent and rendering the guilty hors de combat, if necessary by force of his .44 Magnum. Shockley, by contrast, when the film begins, is a washed up, drunken failure. It takes him half the film even to figure out who his enemies are ... and even then, he's not the one who takes charge of relieving society of the burden of their being (Mally is) ... all he does is barrel that bus through the gauntlet, refusing to let them kill him, a negative sort of heroism at best. That he found the will and resolution within himself to do that much, to "get the job done" even though he knows it could cost him his life, is Shockley's triumph and the main point of the film, in my mind ... and it opened the door for Eastwood to play many more "fallible, human, yet still convincing and effective characters," as he's tended more and more to do in his later years.
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Post by: KC on January 26, 2003, 09:10:30 PM
I'm going to post a few more of all those tags I owe ...

Blu:  Who's your favorite of Clint's partners, and why?

Doug:  Which of the "bad guys" in Eastwood's films do you think it the most human and believable? (Perhaps you'd better limit that to films where there are clearly good guys and bad guys.)

Conan:  You're going to fly to Japan and you have your trusty portable DVD player with you, but you can only squeeze one Eastwood DVD into your carry-on. Which do you take?

Be back with a few more in a bit ... :)
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Post by: Doug on January 26, 2003, 09:32:04 PM
From Christopher:
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Doug: If you could only buy one more Eastwood DVD to add to your collection, which would it be?

A tough question, but at least I don't have to write an essay... ;D  My collection is so bare compared to his total number of films, but I do have a lot of the essentials.  But I only have one of his '90's movies, only one of his '80's (besides the two DH's), so hmm...  I'm really, really looking forward to Where Eagles Dare, as it's quite possible I haven't seen that movie since the 1970's, and then not all the way through.  I've seen the whole movie but in pieces, and only remember the general gist and some of the more memorable scenes.  But I'd really like to own White Hunter, Black Heart too.  And i could see watching it a few times within the first year of owning it.  So assuming it's going to be released here sometime this decade I'm going with White Hunter, Black Heart.

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Christopher:  It's only fair as your dvd collection is similart to mine to inquire which would your choice be. (If you could only buy one more Eastwood DVD to add to your collection, which would it be?)

Xichado Clint Eastwood decides to act in his next movie, but he doesn't want to direct it -- who would you like to see be the director?  It could be any genre of movie.

Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: KC on January 26, 2003, 09:43:15 PM
And here are the last three ...

AKA:  Your wish has been granted, your dream has come true, you get to meet Clint Eastwood. And the first thing he says is, "What did you think of Blood Work?" Do you tell him the truth ... or hedge a bit?

Baggie:  Clint's heard you're a great cook and he wants to come over for dinner ... better make that, he and Dina want to come over for dinner. What will you fix? And will you ask him to come early and scrape the carrots? ;)

Holden: What is your favorite line—or moment without a line—in Unforgiven? (And ... would you use it to inspire a football team, if you were a coach? ;) )

Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: Doug on January 26, 2003, 09:48:46 PM
Doug:  Which of the "bad guys" in Eastwood's films do you think it the most human and believable? (Perhaps you'd better limit that to films where there are clearly good guys and bad guys.)

Without overthinking it, I'll go with Evelyn Draper played by Jessica Walter in Play Misty for Me as the most human, believable bad "guy."  I know for some people she may seem too out there, but then they're lucky not to have met someone like that.  Sure, in the end she goes all out psychotic, but up to that point she's a very believeable character, with a very well defined motivation.  (And hey, there are psychotic people out there in the world).  I remember about eleven-twelve years ago I was introducing my friend to the films of Clint Eastwood and we watched Play Misty for Me and he got chills because he had had a girlfriend who had acted much like that, even up to the suicide part, all to gain control and manipulate him.  

Another tag.
DAmbrosia  
What was the reason you chose "DAmbrosia" as your username?  If I recall that's the lawyer in The Dead Pool and he doesn't have a big role, but there must be something you liked about the character.  [KC corrected me, he's the DA in Sudden Impact, which is what I originally wrote, but changed, as I got the two movies confused. ::)  At least it didn't cost me $50 as my mix up with the phone company did, after they disconnected my service.... :-[]
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: KC on January 26, 2003, 10:14:14 PM
KC: I have no idea how you feel about Martin Scorsese, and I have no idea how you felt about the answer I gave to your question, so I'll ask you the same thing: Can you picture Clint in any of Scorsese's movies to date?

This one I can answer quickly, at least ... I haven't seen all of Scorsese's movies, but I don't think I could see Clint in any of the ones I've seen. Their styles as filmmakers are so totally different! It might be interesting to see them work together, though ... they just might surprise everyone by bringing out things in each other that haven't been prominent in their respective work to date.

Two more tags:

Daisy:  You can time travel and rewrite one line in any Eastwood film. Which one would you pick and what would you change it to? It can be a line you just don't like, or one you think you could "improve" a little. (Please, keep it "decent" ... children are watching! ;) )

mgk:  A last one in this game for you. What's the greatest "weather" scene in an Eastwood film? By which I mean ... the weather is noticeable enough (nice or nasty) to be reckoned a player.


Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: AKA23 on January 26, 2003, 11:00:09 PM

AKA:  Your wish has been granted, your dream has come true, you get to meet Clint Eastwood. And the first thing he says is, "What did you think of Blood Work?" Do you tell him the truth ... or hedge a bit?

WOW, I'm meeting Clint! Really? Are you serious? Well, that's enough for me! LOL...I think I'd tell him the truth. I'd say that I was disappointed in it and that I thought that he'd done better films. I think he'd agree with that himself! If you mean would I go on this huge tirade calling it terrible and saying that I hated it or anything like that, no, I wouldn't do that, because that would just be completely disrespectful, but I wouldn't lie and say "oh, I thought it was great Clint," because I didn't. Besides, I think he's probably the kind of guy that would appreciate honesty from his fans and if he asked me that question, he probably wouldn't be asking it just to get an answer that he'd want to hear. That doesn't sound like Clint's style to me. I think he'd appreciate the honesty.
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Post by: Matt on January 27, 2003, 12:59:35 AM
Matt:  Eastwood's characters have been fathers or father surrogates in a lot of films besides A Perfect World. What's your favorite "father-son moment" from one of them? Or "father-daughter moment," if you prefer. ;)

I have two favorite father-child moments and they're both in Absolute Power, but in the first one, Clint's character isn't even in the scene.  Still, it says more about the character and his feelings toward his daughter than any scene that he WOULD be in.   It's the scene where Seth and Kate go to Luther's house, and Kate notices the pictures of her through the years displayed lovingly throughout the house:

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KATE WHITNEY:  He wasn't at these places.  My college graduation.  My law school graduation.  The night my mother and I -- we went out to celebrate because I had gotten my first job.  (Looks at another picture)   Me alone on the steps.  I'd just won my first case.  I used to think sometimes I'd come home and I'd sense that he'd been to the apartment.  That he'd been looking at my things, checking the refrigerator, shaking his head because he never thought I ate right.  (Her voice is cracking, she's so moved by the love that she now knows he feels for her by seeing these pictures, that although she had put up a wall between them to keep him from hurting her again, the wall starts to break down.)  I know it sounds crazy, but I've always felt - - I've always felt that he was around.

And my favorite scene that includes Eastwood as a father is later in that film, the last scene where Kate is recovering in the hospital.  Luther has come to visit her and Kate wakes up to see him standing beside her.

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KATE:  You don't have to fuss.  (Kate slowly lifts her hand, and Luther takes it in his.)

LUTHER:  I know.

KATE:  Am I gonna be all right?

LUTHER:  Yeah.  We're gonna be just fine.  

(Kate smiles and Luther smiles gently back.  He sits down on a nearby sofa and picks up his sketchbook.  As Kate watches him, still smiling at the new closeness they share, we see that Luther is sketching her portrait.)

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Post by: AKA23 on January 27, 2003, 01:10:53 AM
Great answer Matt! I totally agree with your selections. When KC said father-daugher moment my mind immediately went to Absolute Power , and you picked some of the very scenes that I was thinking about!

I would add the scene where Seth and Kate are in her apartment, and she opens up the refrigerator to see that Dad has bought her all this food!! It really shows his love as well.

Even early in the film, I'd almost say the first scene that we see her in is another one of those great moments. He knows he's going to run, but he doesn't want to go without telling his daughter, and his "being as you're the only family I have" line really touched me. You could see even then that he really loved Kate, and she just never realized it until that moment where she saw all of those pictures at the house.

Your two scenes are the best ones though! Great comments Matt! :)
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: Matt on January 27, 2003, 01:15:16 AM
NO MORE TAGGING!

We're closing down this game, but leaving the thread open to anyone who was tagged so they can still answer the questions posed to them.   We still want to hear the answers to all the outstanding tags, but please do not tag anyone else when you're finished answering.

Thanks to everyone who participated in this game.  It was a lot of fun, struck up a lot of great conversation, and we got to know each other all a little better.  In a few months, we can always bring the "Tag" game back.  In the meanwhile, we're coming up with other ideas to keep everyone busy.  So keep checking the board!  

Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: Doug on January 27, 2003, 01:55:17 AM
It has been a lot of fun, Matt.  Maybe to get some of the people to talk we could find all the unanswered questions and put them in one post (or a few) and  they could answer now without the pressure of having to post any tags.  I know only about half of my tags were answered.  But perhaps they didn't want to get too involved in a message board game when they only check in every so often, or maybe they felt intimidated about having to tag fellow members.  Or maybe I just asked really bad questions.   :D  No, that's not it, my questions were great. ;D  Right?  Well, whatever....  I know I was waiting for a reply from Philo and Holden who were participating, so maybe they just didn't see the posts or were overwhelmed with other responsibilities...

It was a fun game, anyhow...
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Post by: philo on January 27, 2003, 07:32:06 AM

Thanks Matt ,

I am someone that still has several to answer and it is good for me that the pressure of further tags is now off .

Commentary answer coming up .


Philo .
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Post by: Agent on January 27, 2003, 09:14:41 AM
Agent : do you think Clint has a good singing voice ??
Personally, he (did) have a pleasant, smooth voice in the past ('50s-'70s). If you ever get a chance to listen to any of his songs he recorded way back when (in the '50s I think), they don't sound bad at all. Kind of a "Ricky Nelson" type feel to them. Very simple teenage stuff, but pleasant to listen to. There's a little sample on the  Eastwood CD-ROM of that stuff.

But getting into serious singing, no, I find him a little hard to listen to, as in Paint Your Wagon. I hate to say this, but I kind of wince when I hear him singing in that movie, it just lacks something. But the 50s' ballad stuff isn't bad at all.

I'm just glad Dirty Harry wasn't a musical.... ;)
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Post by: KC on January 27, 2003, 09:21:46 AM
There are also samples of his early (and later!) singing  performances on the "Recordings" (http://www.clinteastwood.net/recordingartist.html) page of this site. According to the data there, his first recording was released in 1961.  8)
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Post by: Agent on January 27, 2003, 09:34:03 AM
Ah, thanks KC. I really need to surf other parts of this site more... :) Matter of fact, I think I'll do that now...

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Post by: Christopher on January 27, 2003, 12:21:32 PM
A friend of mine told me a while back that he watched a few minutes of Paint Your Wagon on TV, and thought that Clint sounded pretty good. But on the other hand, my dad doesn't like Clint's singing in that movie. In fact, he won't watch the movie to begin with. He isn't really crazy about Honkytonk Man either. I'm not sure why I'm throwing this in, but I am. :D

Now for the question I came here to answer.
Doug asked:
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Christopher: It's only fair as your dvd collection is similar to mine to inquire which would your choice be. (If you could only buy one more Eastwood DVD to add to your collection, which would it be?)
Excellent question, Doug. ;) ;D I believe I'd have to go with The Beguiled. I've only seen it about 2 (possibly 3) times only on TV, but I've always thought it was great. The scene after they amputate McB's leg is wonderfully acted. Eastwood wouldn't have had to say a word in that scene, and his expression could have said it all.

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Post by: Lilly on January 27, 2003, 01:04:53 PM
 :) Cool answer KC, thanks:
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Well, the only kind of music I'm really fond of is classical music (and some Swedish popular music, but let's not go into that). And my favorite varieties of classical music are opera and the art song. Clint already did a movie that featured two opera arias on the soundtrack (I'm sure you know which), so maybe he could do one about a washed up Lieder singer journeying to Carnegie Hall in search of one more comeback ... in the dead of winter, and his car keeps breaking down ... Soundtrack by Schubert: "Die Winterreise."
 What about this Swedish stuff...are you an Abba fan? ;) They rock!

Xichado, thank you for your thoughtful and (as so often) instructive answer about poets.  Pessoa sounds very interesting, and I like the Camões poem you quoted:
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“My lady,
If some jealous god should snatch thee from my sight
In all thy loveliness of snow and rose,
And no longer might I see those eyes
Whose splendor is the sun’s despair,
Never could he tear thy image from my heart,
So sealed and dedicate to thee,
There it is and there it stands
Impregnable against all assaults of fate”
As KC said, it translates very well, which so often isn't the case.  


I see I'm too late with the several tags I owe, apologies for that, but here is my answer to my final tag.  

Christopher asked:
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Since you're a newer Clint Eastwood fan, how is it that you came to this site? Was there something about him that just made you want to look him up on the internet? (I'm asking this because there are actors that I like, but I've never tried to find any sites devoted to them)
I think after watching In The Line Of Fire I thought I'd just do a Google image search to see if I could find a nice photo of Clint.  I found a couple of sites with a few things and didn't think much about it, then I surfed on to this site and thought, "wow, this seems pretty comprehensive".  At that time I knew nothing about Clint so I enjoyed reading Cal's biographical pages.  I had a quick look at the board but didn't pay much attention to it.  Later I found a computer at uni. with a sound card so I listened to all the audio clips, which are just great.  The site made me aware of the amount and breadth of Clint's work, and as I learnt more I came a more committed fan.  Eventually I'd looked at everything on the site, so I started reading the board.  I got such a friendly reception and I realised this board is a special community, and that made me want to be part of it.  
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Post by: mgk on January 27, 2003, 03:50:52 PM
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From KC to mgk:  What female character in an Eastwood film do you think is the best match for the character Eastwood plays in that film (regardless of whether he "gets lucky"!  )

As I said earlier, KC, this is a good question.  The first female character I thought of was Aggie (Marsha Mason) from Heartbreak Ridge.  Then, of course, I thought of Francesca (Meryl Streep) from The Bridges of Madison County.  Shortly after that, I remembered Lilly (Rene Russo) from In the Line of Fire.  All three of these female characters were great counterparts to Eastwood's character...each in her own way.  But, I think I'm going to stick with my original thought.  There is just something about the self-confidence of Aggie up against the macho Gunny Highway.  And, her total understanding of who this man was and of the vulnerabilities he was feeling were critical to us understanding this man.  The life they had shared together, the war they went through together, the hopes and dreams they had once shared, as well as the disappointments, were vital to this story.  And, in spite of all those years and all those turmoils, they both still loved each other.  In a time when he felt like his world was falling apart, she was his "rock."  

Although Francesca was certainly one half of one of the best love stories ever told on screen and the difficult decisions she had to make made us feel just as torn as she was, I still think Aggie was a better match for Eastwood's character.  Lilly held Frank together and the chemistry between the two of them was electric but those things still aren't quite enough to make me choose her over Aggie.

Hope that's what you were looking for on that question.

Now for your second question.


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From KC to mgk:   A last one in this game for you. What's the greatest "weather" scene in an Eastwood film? By which I mean ... the weather is noticeable enough (nice or nasty) to be reckoned a player.

You certainly socked it to me with these last two questions.  Two films came to mind when I read this question...Unforgiven and The Bridges of Madison County.  In Unforgiven, I felt like the weather was another character in the movie because it set the mood for how dismal the conditions were in those days and how difficult it was for William Munny to get past the weather just to survive and to finally complete his mission.

However, the nod is going to go to The Bridges of Madison County as my answer to this question.  Seeing Robert drenched in rain while longing for Francesca to get out of that truck and come with him made his desperation and his loss of the woman he loved so dearly seem even more painful.  Without that rain and without the pathetic vision of him standing there, I don't think we would have felt the overwhelming sadness that we did.

Thanks for a great game, Matt!!!!!

mgk
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: Matt on January 27, 2003, 04:14:46 PM
It has been a lot of fun, Matt.  Maybe to get some of the people to talk we could find all the unanswered questions and put them in one post (or a few) and  they could answer now without the pressure of having to post any tags.  

Good idea, Doug.  I'll get to working on that compilation and will post it... maybe in a new thread since this one is so long. :)
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Post by: Brendan on January 27, 2003, 08:04:41 PM

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Matt - If Playboy offered you to be the photographer for Allisons shoot, would you do it? But there is one exception, Clint gets to monitor you and watch your every move.
 

Sure!   :D  But I'd rather be the iceman.   You know I'd be UP for the job.  ;D

(Anyone who's seen the pictures will know what I'm talking about.  And no "The Iceman Cometh" jokes.  ;) )

Just saw the spread. (http://64.207.13.28/mysmilies/contrib/blackeye/Eyecrazy.gif)(http://216.40.249.192/mysmilies/contrib/blackeye/drooling3.gif)
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Post by: Conan on January 27, 2003, 08:41:22 PM
  I'm not usually a gamer on here, but that was a pretty fun.

  That drooling smiley is cracking me up Nightwing.
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: Brendan on January 27, 2003, 08:52:06 PM
Im still trying to recover from that photo spread.(http://64.207.13.28/mysmilies/contrib/ruinkai/smashfreakB.gif)<---- KC
                                                                                  <----- Me
 

Yes, it was a great idea Matt. Cant wait till you start it back up again in a few months. Thanks. ;)
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: Conan on January 27, 2003, 08:58:34 PM
Conan:  You're going to fly to Japan and you have your trusty portable DVD player with you, but you can only squeeze one Eastwood DVD into your carry-on. Which do you take?

Ahh, one more tag for me.

  You hit the nail on the head here KC.  I do this exact thing, though Tokyo is just a stopover to somewhere else.  And yep, I only have room for one or two DVDs in my laptop bag.  In case anyone needs to know...Business class on Delta and Singapore Air (I love this airline) has the laptop power plug-in.  Some of Korean Air's fleet has them as well.  
  Anyway, I've seen the Eastwood Dollars trilogy in-flight before.  My choice isn't indicative of my favorite Eastwood movie; just what I feel like seeing the next time I'm on an airplane - and that would be "High Plains Drifter".  Which I'll be bringing with me on my next trip.  The last trip's selection was "Killer Klowns from Outer Space" and "Das Boot" :)
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Post by: Daisy Abigael on January 28, 2003, 06:03:26 AM
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What's the most overlooked Eastwood film? Is there a film that you really like a lot that doesn't seem to get the recognition that you feel that it deserves, or isn't admired in the same light that you feel that it should be? If so, what is that film, and why do you think that is?

Crikey!  That's a toughie, AKA! ;D

I would say Coogan's Bluff doesn't get the acclaim it deserves, mainly because it is overshadowed by Dirty Harry.

Harry was a real breakthrough movie for Clint - superstardom!  And Clint was first discovered as a western star and to many he still epitomises the movie "cowboy".

But, in between, there's Coogan. This was a real transition film for Clint - taking him from the western star of the sixties to the super-cop star of the seventies.

It is a transitional film for Don Siegel as well.  It links Dirty Harry with the more conventional, but still excellent, Madigan (with Richard Widmark) which Coogan's Bluff resembles in some ways.  Together they form a loose tough-cop trillogy, examining the roles and responsibilities of law enforcement officers in the modern age.

I hate some of the cod-youth-subculture schtick.  And some of the interiors are too stagey.  But the action and the humour and the touches of mean-streets realism combine to make this a very exciting and interesting proto-Harry.

The fact that Coogan is a western hero morphing into a cop hero is very appropriate to Clint's image and career at the begining of the seventies.

Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: Xichado on January 28, 2003, 08:37:56 PM
Xichado:  Which of Eastwood's films did you not like that much the first time you saw it, but that you really grew to love the more you watched it.  (We had this topic on the board, but I don't think you posted in it.)

That would be Bronco Billy. I saw it for the first time many years ago and didn’t like it, it didn’t appeal to me.
I caught the movie last year on tv and my opinion changed, I enjoyed it, and I watched it again and again… and I have to say that Bronco Billy is my favourite Clint Eastwood movie. It’s a very simple and naïve movie with an important message and it always brings me a smile, entertains me and makes me feel good.
 
Recently, a friend told me that Fitzgerald’s “The Great Gatsby” was a story about those who reach for the American dream and those who use that same dream to self-indulge themselves in wealth and power. And I think Bronco Billy is that same kind of story, you have the true dreamers on one side (Bronco Billy and his gang that stay together thru thick and thin) and the gluttons on the other (Ms. Lilly and the rest of her greedy “world”). And I like to see the true dreamers win.  :)


Xichado Clint Eastwood decides to act in his next movie, but he doesn't want to direct it -- who would you like to see be the director?  It could be any genre of movie.

Tim Burton.
I love Tim Burton, I think he’s a really creative man. I have enjoyed all of his movies since Beetlejuice (…well, I didn’t like the remake of the Planet of The Apes that much, mainly because I am a big fan of the original Apes’ movies, and I kept comparing the original with the remake and the original Planet of the Apes is so much better ::)).

If Clint Eastwood and Tim Burton were to work together that would be sooooooo cool and would bring Clint back to his early days as an actor in sci-fi movies. But it’s very unlikely the old punk would agree to work with Tim Burton and especially in a sci-fi movie but I would like to see it though  ;)
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Post by: Matt on January 28, 2003, 08:51:35 PM
That would be Bronco Billy. I saw it for the first time many years ago and didn’t like it, it didn’t appeal to me.
I caught the movie last year on tv and my opinion changed, I enjoyed it, and I watched it again and again… and I have to say that Bronco Billy is my favourite Clint Eastwood movie. It’s a very simple and naïve movie with an important message and it always brings me a smile, entertains me and makes me feel good.
 
Recently, a friend told me that Fitzgerald’s “The Great Gatsby” was a story about those who reach for the American dream and those who use that same dream to self-indulge themselves in wealth and power. And I think Bronco Billy is that same kind of story, you have the true dreamers on one side (Bronco Billy and his gang that stay together thru thick and thin) and the gluttons on the other (Ms. Lilly and the rest of her greedy “world”). And I like to see the true dreamers win.  :)

That's cool, Xichado.  I had posted in the thread that Bronco Billy was one of two movies that had that same effect on me.  As I said over there:

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Two movies that I disliked when I first viewed them many years ago, were Bronco Billy and The Eiger Sanction. I felt the first was rather juvenile, and the latter extremely slow-paced. But watching them now, roughly twenty years later, I loved them both immediately. More than repeated viewings, I see the difference in my opinion of them to be based on changes in me as a person due to maturity, life experiences, and basic personality changes from a teenager to a mid-30s adult.


Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: baggie on January 29, 2003, 09:31:07 PM

Baggie:  Clint's heard you're a great cook and he wants to come over for dinner ... better make that, he and Dina want to come over for dinner. What will you fix? And will you ask him to come early and scrape the carrots? ;)


I have had enough company who are used to "upper crust" to know that sometimes the most plain of meals is the best route to go. I can't compete with great chefs, so I wouldn't even try. I would, however, dig through my family cookbook for some really good stuff.  I don't know what he likes, but I know what I like!  ;D So I would probably cook my pork chop and yam cassarole a la orange. And waldorf salad, using pecans. With fresh, warm Italian herb bread. And homemade cherry-berry pie. I would con my friends who drink wine into donating the proper wine, although I would go with Jekel Vineyards Johannesburg Reisling, myself. And since I have it on good authority that Clint indulges in cookies, I would make my favorite Oatmeal-chololate chip.   God, now I have made myself hungry...

And I have quite a reputation for not having everything in order, so I probably would end up with them peeling the apples! Both Clint and Dina. So I wouldn't  be tempted to scrub the tub!   :-*
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: KC on January 29, 2003, 11:42:05 PM
I loved it, Baggie!  :D
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Post by: baggie on January 29, 2003, 11:53:42 PM
Baggie(b):   You're having dinner with a friend at the Mission Ranch, and you're discussing John Denver's music.  At some point during the conversation, Clint happens to sit close enough to overhear part of your discussion.  He explains that he's working on a film that would have a feel similar to Bronco Billy and he was looking for just the right song for a slow dance between him and his leading lady.   Clint asks if there's a John Denver song that you would recommend for a scene like that.  Assuming that you're not in a state of shock, and are capable of answering him ;) what song would you recommend?

Funny you should pick that scenario...up to the Clint part, that has happened many times. We often sit around at Mission Ranch Restaurant or the Rio Grill and discuss John's music and other legacies.  It would be very easy for such a conversation to be overheard.
I was with some of my John Denver group last weekend and put this question to them.  We all agreed that the song which first came to mind was For You originally from the Higher Ground cd. I tried to find a web site that would have an audio sample, but couldn't.
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: KC on January 30, 2003, 12:04:47 AM
I was with some of my John Denver group last weekend and put this question to them.  We all agreed that the song which first came to mind was For You originally from the Higher Ground cd. I tried to find a web site that would have an audio sample, but couldn't.

This song. Baggie?

The .wav file link works!  8)

http://www.legacyrecordings.com/johndenver/sounds.html
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Post by: Doug on January 30, 2003, 02:15:32 AM
John Denver and Clint Eastwood ... my mom's two favorites.  I grew up with both.  But Clint's artistic view has always been a little ...um, darker,and closer to my heart, and even more so as I've grown older, and even movies like Bronco Billy grow on me more because of it's relation to his total artistic view.  John Denver had a dark side, but he didn't let it show enough in his music -- for good and bad.  When I got a computer and learned my way around it, it became my mission to find the album Aerie on cd, and get it for my mom.  I had to buy an overpriced import from Japan, but I finally got it for my mom and myself -- it's my favorite album of his.

I have to say I've never heard (that I know of) the song For You.   I'm sure my mom has it; it's a nice song.  
Title: Re:Tag, you're it! #2 (Swell, another Eastwood game)
Post by: Matt on January 30, 2003, 06:58:43 AM
Since this thread is so long, I moved all the unanswered tags over to THIS (http://www.clinteastwood.org/forums/index.php?board=3;action=display;threadid=357) thread and I'm going to lock this one now.  

http://www.clinteastwood.org/forums/index.php?board=3;action=display;threadid=357