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Title: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: vik on August 08, 2005, 01:44:23 PM
glory glory man utd

come on the red devils  >:D

and we still have a rio  :)

lets get them debrecen's

man utd season starts tomorrow
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: Gant on August 08, 2005, 11:44:55 PM
3rd place again for you guys.. if your lucky.
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: vik on August 09, 2005, 01:53:30 AM
nah champions as always
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: little_bill on August 09, 2005, 03:34:15 AM
i think utd will be lucky to finish top two if they don't get their heads sorted before saturday, they need a strong start to the season and they've been missing one for the last two seasons.
i think liverpool will make a shock entry in the top three after the CL i don't think they fear chelsea at all, and that could lead to a difficult time for the blues, ye know some of them will be suffering from big head syndrome (they caught it off their manager)
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: vik on August 09, 2005, 02:17:27 PM
3 - 0

that will do for starters

rooney, van nistleroy, ronaldo
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: bito on August 09, 2005, 11:49:11 PM
Good for United, but is was also a team they should beat, but they will not win the Champions League 2005-06


Liverpool plays tonight   come on your reds

Top 4 in Premier League 2005-06

Liverpool  O0   Chelsea  Arsenal  MU   I hope so

Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: vik on August 10, 2005, 01:08:39 AM
hoping and a wishin there bito

liverpool - he he

man utd, chelsea, arsenal, liverpool (maybe)
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: bito on August 10, 2005, 02:22:05 AM
Yes I hope, and I think I have right but we must see to the spring

MU win Premier League no no  :(

Liverpool will win the 19 championchip
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: little_bill on August 10, 2005, 04:14:09 AM
hoping and a wishin there bito

liverpool - he he

man utd, chelsea, arsenal, liverpool (maybe)
considering liverpool are the european champs yous seem to be writing them off very quickly.

utd have a lot to prove this year they haven't started the season well for the last two years, they can't win the prem if they don't have a strong start. i think ferdinand could be a problem, he doesn't want to be there, he's sulking over not getting a big payday move to chelsea but i don't think they want him anymore, he's no loyalty, fergie should find a replacement for him soon.
the match was a bit sloppy yesterday, if that disallowed goal had have stood just after half time it would have been a different story. neville isn't up to scratch yet, he needs more work to be premiership fit for saturday, the talk of michael owen coming is good for the forwards, rooney and van nistelrooy will be out to prove they don't need him, it could lead to some quality performances from the frnt two, but utd again looked weak  across the back.
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: vik on August 10, 2005, 04:26:54 AM
we don't need owen - he is old and past it

we have rooney and ronaldo

van nistleroy will eventually get replaced with young blood - but van nistleroy has the experience of owen and is 100 times better - he was injured last year remember - van nistleroy looked good last night - he has alot to give

rio is just fine - so which of the footballers don't want a big payday

the commentators put keano down last night for making five tackles - football is about tackles - agreed not the arsenal every two minutes type foul - so keano got booked - he did his job

man utd  could have taken home the fa cup but they met an arsenal team who won on penalties, given the league man utd was over arsenal

liverpool as i remember won on penalties - champions of what - they had to be given entry into the championship this year, i am of the opinion you should earn it

man utd had a good season last year - they certainly entertained

i think your opinion is good, but i think slightly incorrect  :) or anyway different and still valid, but heh cool we wait and see
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: little_bill on August 10, 2005, 04:41:59 AM
vik
1. i never said anything about keano, i thought the match was sloppy rom man utd, i thought keano played well, i might not like utd but i love keano, so stop trying to say i said something about him that i didn't.
2. ac milan won the CL two years ago, ON PENALTIES
3.owen is 25 thats 4 years younger than van nistelrooy, he scored 16 goals in 26 appearnces for real, thats brilliant football, he's agreat player, and if fergie is interested i wouldn't be rubbishing him. and ronaldo is a winger, you should be pointing out the likes of smith and saha as your replacment strikers.
4.
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man utd had a good season last year - they certainly entertained
, no they didn't, they didn't win a thing they were miles off winning the prem. and most of it as i said was down to a terrible start, and those are the comments of alex ferguson.
5.
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given the league man utd was over arsenal
no, arsenal were 2nd utd were 3rd

just because you support a team you can't bury your head in the sand and ignore the problems
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: vik on August 10, 2005, 04:43:52 AM
look at the end your opinion is like everyone elses, i accept differences in opionions

it seems you don't like man utd

by the way some footballers never make the grade - smith and saha - show that nothing has changed and kleberson
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: little_bill on August 10, 2005, 04:48:17 AM
i have read it agin, you took out the bit about me criticising keano, which i never did, outside of that your post is still way off man.
rio showed you no loyalty after you stood by him through the missed drugs test scandal and ensuing 9 month ban. he's a mercenary, van nistelrooy was right to have a go at him in japan.
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: vik on August 10, 2005, 04:50:46 AM
i didn't say anything about rio his ban etc. because at this point we were not discussing it and we won't be - thats his problem etc. done and dealt with

and i didn't criticise you, maybe you thought so?

please don't jump to conclusions where they are warranted my post is just fine - i tried to answer what you wrote fairly and i think i did that

this board is about discussion and i think we have done quite well




Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: little_bill on August 10, 2005, 04:58:55 AM
you lied about me saying something about roy keane, and now you say i'm rude,

as for the ban we were talking about rio and his lack of loyalty
i said your better off without him
 you said
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rio is just fine - so which of the footballers don't want a big payday
so i expanded on my opinion on why you're better off without him, you didn't need to talk about the ban, it's my opinion on why you don't need him. it's an example of his lack of loyalty.
pointing out utd's weaknesses doesn't mean i'm a utd hater, i just amn't a utd supporter i already said i don't like them i'm indifferent to them.

all i can see is i posted facts to back up my opinions and you accuse me of being rude.
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: vik on August 10, 2005, 05:00:38 AM
where did i say you were rude ? i have done nothing but said you have an opinion different to mine

so you are indifferent to man utd, fine


Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: little_bill on August 10, 2005, 05:05:52 AM
you do understand that this
 « Last Edit: Today at 05:58:02 AM by vik »
shows that you have now edited your posts. you think you're being smart Vik but the truth is your opinions were uninformed, you stated things about me persoanlly,
a that i criticised keano and
b that i was being rude
and when i called you out on both counts you went back and edited your posts.
have the courage to stand by what you said originally.

Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: vik on August 10, 2005, 05:10:39 AM
why - whats on the board is what i thought

you don't seem to have a sort of reasoning there



Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: little_bill on August 10, 2005, 05:13:18 AM
my problem is you are being dishonest
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: vik on August 10, 2005, 05:19:01 AM
this is a discussion board - you seem to conclude that everything is said is against you

whereas they are good posts - well balanced

Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: little_bill on August 10, 2005, 05:24:47 AM
i'm giving up, my health is more important than your childish games.
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: vik on August 10, 2005, 05:46:11 AM
very sad - it was a discussion on  football - a good one to

think you discredited yourself little-bill

maybe someone else would like to discuss the state of the league

there are a few other teams  :)
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: Gant on August 10, 2005, 09:16:45 AM
I ******' hate em  ;D
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: vik on August 10, 2005, 09:18:26 AM
hate what football?

or possessed by liverpool
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: bito on August 10, 2005, 02:21:09 PM
I like that    Liverpool wins  3-1

Cisse 1, Morientes 2

let us have a good discussion about football and have some respect  for each other teams that is mine opinion

My daughter has a boyfriend there support MU and I respect that  even she and I support LFC 
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: vik on August 13, 2005, 03:53:06 PM
man utd had a good start

a gift of a goal for rooney

looks like van de sar might be a good buy
got a scmieckel attitude to blocking
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: bito on August 14, 2005, 02:04:05 AM
Good for MU, they had a good start and Rooney's goal was a gift

Van der Saar will never be so good as Peter Schmeichel

Liverpool played 0-0 and that was badley, when a Middelsborugh player had got the red card

Come on your red to the next match
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: vik on August 15, 2005, 07:28:11 AM
want owen back - bito?
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: bito on August 15, 2005, 10:28:58 AM

No vik, I think Owen don't want go back to Liverpool, and we have 4 good forwards, but will he back to LFC it's allright with me.

 I think he will stay in Real Madrid and Real is my favourite spanish team
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: Brendan on August 15, 2005, 05:49:43 PM
think you discredited yourself little-bill

HA!! Yes, I'm sure that's exactly what he did, Editty McEditerson.
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: vik on August 16, 2005, 06:59:37 AM
england play denmark tomorrow 1900 - friendly

i think scotland are playing as well, alot of friendly fixtures to get us back into the world scene

for anyone interested in football
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: bito on August 16, 2005, 08:14:19 AM
Yes, Denmark plays against England in Parken, but I think Denmark will loose that match, we have so many players there have injury.

So I think it will be difficult for Denmark to beat England but we can hope.

Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: vik on August 16, 2005, 08:38:44 AM
england are trying new players and if eriksson of old is anything to go by - the whole team will change in the second half - so i  give you odds on bito to win

btw they have given eriksson the nod until 2008 so we are not going to win any cups in the next few years

yes i don't believe it - not many football jobs where the manager fails badly and still gets to carry on  :-[
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: MillionDollarBaby on August 16, 2005, 09:38:49 AM
Liverpool are the kings of Europe and soon we will rule the premiership. Teams like Chelsea are ruening todays footy, they just baught the premiership, they didnt win it by heart. Come in u reds, all the way boys!!!

sophie xxx
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: bito on August 17, 2005, 05:59:04 AM
It's tonight Denmark - England in Parken

I think  England will win they have a much better team than Denmark have, but I hope Danmark maybe can surprice

I hope also it's will be a fair match, so good match to all your football fans in England
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: vik on August 17, 2005, 06:09:19 AM
england play fair as long as their players are not taunted
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: bito on August 17, 2005, 01:53:07 PM
Congratulations to Denmark with the victory against England 4-1   O0

The second half was so good for Denmark  :)
 
So come on Turkey the 3. september we can play good football and we need  a victory there so we can go to VM 2006
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: vik on August 17, 2005, 02:25:54 PM
yeh well played bito - denmark had some good goals there - got behind a poor england defence

kinda wierd on a day david beckham said our time was coming to win a trophy - but you just never know funny game football
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: Lilly on August 17, 2005, 02:57:08 PM
Good for you bito.  Well done the Danes! :)

Bit embarrassing, but as vik says, it's a funny ol' game, and this doesn't dent my enthusiasm for the competitive matches.  We pull it out of the bag for qualifying.  And as usual the first goal was partly David James' fault.

I listened to the match on Radio 5, and I couldn't believe how quickly the mouthy commentators turned against the team and started bemoaning our chances for the World Cup.  This match doesn't really mean much for the long run.  It really peed my off that the second a couple of goals went in, they were sarcastically saying, "I thought we had one of the best coaches in the world".  Typical English moaning. >:(

Anyway, credit to your team bito, they played well.  (I'm watching the TV highlights now.)  Best of luck for the qualifiers - I really hope you get to Germany. 8)

Now...bring on the Welsh! >:D
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: philo on August 17, 2005, 06:51:58 PM


I am not in any way against our future chances, but tonight we were crap.

I am losing a little bit of patience on account of the stupid amount of changes.

Nobody can learn a damn thing from playing some players (with other settled members of the squad) for a matter of a few minutes or one half at the most.

David James and his pathetic excuse should never play for his country again.


Philo .

Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: philo on August 17, 2005, 06:53:38 PM


I must add  ....

Nothing against Denmark, quite simply they took the chances they had and scored some good goals.


Philo .
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: MillionDollarBaby on August 18, 2005, 03:36:46 AM



I am losing a little bit of patience on account of the stupid amount of changes.

Nobody can learn a damn thing from playing some players (with other settled members of the squad) for a matter of a few minutes or one half at the most.







They do that cos cryers like moriniho tell the manager not to allow lampard and terry play a full game. Its not the managers fault, im sure he would like to play the best possible team through out the whole match, but there club managers dont allow it mainly becasue they have a big premiership game in 3 days
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: vik on August 18, 2005, 03:40:13 AM
not so - the ruling is he could play them if he wanted to

this is the national squad - they should be playing a full match together - this falls solely on eriksson as has all the other matches

who is mourinhno anyway - who cares about him
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: buckfastbigd1888 on August 18, 2005, 03:43:26 AM
 ;D                                                                                                                                                                          Come on the old Denmark hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah. Cant help myself with that due 2 the fact Scotland got a credible result for a change. While our invincible brothers south of the border got as we say humped by a bunch of scandinavians. England for the world cup they say,  theyll b lucky 2 qualify come on the wales.
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: Gant on August 18, 2005, 09:06:31 AM
Wales...  ;D

England were poor.. only Rooney seemed to be taking it seriously. We wern't too bad in the first half but just stpped performing in the second..

James is the Ena Sharples of fooball..Always got his head in the back of a net. ;)

Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: MillionDollarBaby on August 18, 2005, 10:50:19 AM
whats do u mean, dont u know anything about football, club managers can not allow there players to play international football if they wanted because its there players and its risking them getting injured, and for someone whos posting in a football thread, i cant believe u dont know who morinho is. He is Chelseas manager, the club who won the premiership and the club liverpool BEAT in the champions  league semi final.

i do hate it wen england always change the players around, but sometimes he as no choice
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: vik on August 19, 2005, 02:45:10 AM
who doesn't know moronhino is he's the whiniging whining baby that should have nothing to do with english football  ... enough said

alot of people here know their football very well and for those who don't they are still entiled to express an opinion

Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: buckfastbigd1888 on August 19, 2005, 03:54:23 AM
 >:D                                                                                           Big weekend up in Scotland this weekend because the show that is the old firm derby is in town. Ive Been looking forward to this one for months now even though Celtic have been pretty poor. However, when it comes to these games no one can predict whats going to happen though i think Celtic will win. Another fact anyone slagging Mourinho should just hope he quits chealsea and goes to their club. Hes done in 3 seasons what other managers cant do in their full careers. That includes Sir Alex, Wenger, Benitez and any one else to be honest. So any one who supports anyone but Chealsea I feel for you because the title will be going nowhere but stamford bridge as long as Mourinho and Abramovich are in town and if you dont like it tough!!!!
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: vik on August 19, 2005, 04:07:03 AM
yeh celtic v rangers games are good we sometimes get them on tv

from my  point of view on moronhino is that there is more to football than whinging managers and i hope he never comes to my team and that the same as wenger

and the same with eriksson - good riddance they do very little for the english game - go back to the continental rubbish of winning whatever the cost - me i would rather see good football

some of the best football was not played by chelsea - it take two teams to make a game and there are a few more than chelsea in the premiership

english football is about responsible players and coaches
i would never want to see ferguson replaced by any continental

english football very rarely had the tugging of shirts the kicking off the ball etc. that comes with some other teams

so many good goals are lost because someone pulls the shirt of someone, sometimes not even on the ball but prevents goals being scored

if rooney and ronaldo are the future of football then its going to be good
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: Gant on August 19, 2005, 05:00:51 AM
Come on Millwall   ;D
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: vik on August 19, 2005, 05:09:46 AM
hope they beat chelsea  ;D
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: MillionDollarBaby on August 19, 2005, 06:36:21 AM


alot of people here know their football very well and for those who don't they are still entiled to express an opinion



i didnt say u couldnt express an opinion but wen u say "the ruling is he could play them if he wanted to" is a statement which is wrong, and thats all im correcting
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: vik on August 19, 2005, 06:40:50 AM
what are you going on about ?

whatever your discussing i don't know if its football

Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: MillionDollarBaby on August 19, 2005, 10:37:44 AM
im sorry but u are wierd, how can u not know whats going on when ur the one that sed it and im quoting it. just face it, u think u know something about football and ur wrong, tough luck

sophie xxx
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: vik on August 19, 2005, 02:12:01 PM
why don't you try and actually write your point of view - however limited it seems to be - you write like you have trouble understanding anything, so how you expect anybody else to understand it
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: Gant on August 19, 2005, 02:29:45 PM
Come on gals..calm down.  ;)
It's only a game.
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: MillionDollarBaby on August 19, 2005, 03:09:42 PM
write down my point of view?, what do u think i done on my first post, here, to make u understand a little better which doesnt seem something that u can do ill put quotes in, if u know what they are!

Philo wrote this - 'I am losing a little bit of patience on account of the stupid amount of changes.

Nobody can learn a damn thing from playing some players (with other settled members of the squad) for a matter of a few minutes or one half at the most.


so i got my POINT OF VIEW across my saying - 'They do that cos cryers like moriniho tell the manager not to allow lampard and terry play a full game. Its not the managers fault, im sure he would like to play the best possible team through out the whole match, but there club managers dont allow it mainly becasue they have a big premiership game in 3 days'

but u obviously know nothing about football cos u sed - not so - 'the ruling is he could play them if he wanted to'

I again got my point across by saying whats do u mean, dont u know anything about football, club managers can not allow there players to play international football if they wanted because its there players and its risking them getting injured, and for someone whos posting in a football thread, i cant believe u dont know who morinho is. He is Chelseas manager, the club who won the premiership and the club liverpool BEAT in the champions  league semi final.


do you understand now?......
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: vik on August 19, 2005, 03:18:55 PM
ok could you clarify these 2 questions if they are in the above

1. are you saying eriksson couldn't play players - i am asking you who could he not play?

he had nearly a full squad on the pitch, he had a full set of reserves

eriksson is an adult if he can't play players i think he would have said, he also has a duty to the country and to the people who pay to watch the games, from what i gather before the game he said he would be playing with no changes or minimal(it would be a full squad work out)

2. so are you saying eriksson was under strict instructions not to play players? or did some  have injury doubts

(and nobody really cares about moronhino he is a big baby)





Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: philo on August 19, 2005, 03:20:36 PM

Quote
Philo wrote this


I knew I would be involved here somewhere.  :D


Gant is right .... It is only a game and opinions.



Philo.  
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: vik on August 19, 2005, 03:25:29 PM
yeh but at least the opinions could be coherent   ;D
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: Matt on August 19, 2005, 08:03:30 PM
im sorry but u are wierd, how can u not know whats going on when ur the one that sed it and im quoting it. just face it, u think u know something about football and ur wrong, tough luck

sophie xxx

Not to change the subject, but how difficult IS it to write out the words "you", 'you're" and "said", use apostrophes, proper punctuation and the shift key? Internet shorthand may speed up the poster a few fractions of a second, but it takes the readers longer to try to decipher what's being said. And, if you want to be taken seriously here and on any message board, proper writing skills help a lot.

And please (and this goes for vik as well) disagree with members as much as you want, but keep personal insults out of your posts and try to respect other members' opinions. Familiarize yourself with the Community Standards (http://www.clinteastwood.org/forums/index.php?topic=3322.new#new) and post accordingly so that all members can enjoy a pleasant posting environment here.
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: MillionDollarBaby on August 20, 2005, 02:36:33 AM
1. are you saying eriksson couldn't play players - i am asking you who could he not play?


I meant, moriniho wont let terry and lampard play full matches. Most of the players who come off at half time are instructed to play 45 mins only, or ofcourse erriksson would play the strongest team for full 90 mins. But Club managers are the ones who instruct this. Take Emre for newcastle an example, he went on international duty and got injured for 6 weeks. Sounsess now says he shouldnt ave let him play because he is an important player.

and yes moriniho is a baby, and i hate him
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: vik on August 20, 2005, 03:21:06 AM
cool - thanks for making it clearer  :) what you say is very interesting

emre isn't english is he? so he doesn't really apply to england

as far as i know eriksson said bar injury he was fielding the strongest team - so maybe lampard and terry just are not required

and thats how eriksson should view it and should have played the players for 90 mins so they can play together like brazil etc.

Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: MillionDollarBaby on August 20, 2005, 03:54:21 AM
ok, No, emre isnt english, but its the same for all countries as souness said. Not so sure about Terry but Lampard is deffinetly a first team player, as i said moriniho will have told erriksson not to play him a full game, due to big games in the premiership and he doesnt want them to get too tired or injured. Club managers can only tell them how long to play if its a frendly as far as i know, they couldnt decide how long they can play in the world cup, and that what it was a friendly.
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: vik on August 20, 2005, 04:07:06 AM
cool


my view is eriksson lets the fans down and as far as i can see he doesn't care and so should be gone

as for terry i don't like his way of playing so he is no loss
lampard is the better england player but come the day if they don't put the effort into playing then it shows

and usually thats what happens the lack of practice lets them down - david beckham then tries to do everything

as from what you have pointed out nothing is going to change
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: MillionDollarBaby on August 20, 2005, 04:11:50 AM

my view is eriksson didn't have to make the changes
at half time thats has always been his downfall and will continue to be





Ok its your view but its a fact that club managers can decide how long there plaers play in frendlies, erriksson cannot do anything about it and thats a fact
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: vik on August 20, 2005, 04:14:39 AM
yeh you were to quick i edited that bit because it wouldn't matter whatever eriksson did as far as i am concerned he isn't very good - whoever he had it wouldn't make any difference

each world cup they go into camp where they have all the players? nothing to do with managers then

as you an see i am intersted in your viewpoint because i
think other countries have the same problem but why are they getting further in the trophy games?
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: MillionDollarBaby on August 20, 2005, 04:22:49 AM
well yes, erriksson hasnt done too bad, England always play well in competitive games, I think when we played Denmark, England treated it too muc like a frendly and were not up for the fight as much as denmark. Dont get me wrong, Denmark took there cances well, lets just see how we do in the world cup
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: bito on August 20, 2005, 09:59:05 AM
The Old Firm 

Rangers beat Celtic 3-1  I like that, when I support  support them

Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: buckfastbigd1888 on August 20, 2005, 10:08:47 AM
 >:(                                                                                                   Right now im sitin depressed with Celtic gettin thumped again. However im optimistic as again Celtic were cheated with a shoking refereeing performance which unfortunently i have witnessed several times in these games. Two sending offs again players were both wearing hoops agin both were not deserved. However up untill they were sent off we were dominating so cause for hope.
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: vik on August 21, 2005, 12:37:16 AM
man utd having a good start to the season
looks like van nistleroy is back to form


celtic starting the season with a bit of bite, yeh so much rests on the refereeing

thought west ham were a bit unlucky as well, not sure that was a tackle from behind, this is football
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: vik on August 21, 2005, 11:51:14 AM
actuallty was it middlesborogh
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: Gant on August 21, 2005, 12:11:45 PM
Fluke goal from Chelsea..... >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: vik on August 21, 2005, 12:21:02 PM
yeh - chelsea and arsenal looked pretty flat
especially for the beginning of the season

Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: little_bill on August 21, 2005, 12:29:54 PM
Fluke goal from Chelsea..... >:( >:( >:(
they don't look an invincable as last year, a good sign for the chasing pack, arsenal looked far from their best
a 90th minute goal to beat wigan and a fluke against a weak looking arsenal (77 minutes before they tested petr cech  :o)
this is throwing all conceptions of the league on it's head, maybe they pushed too hard last year and it's catching up with them
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: vik on August 21, 2005, 12:54:14 PM
should james get a repreieve?
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: MillionDollarBaby on August 21, 2005, 03:00:27 PM
Many people say after a team such as chelsea who have a huge squad of huge players win the title then become cocky and all want first team places. I could see this happening as it is already starting to with robben. i mean what was the big fuss over getting essien when he is on the bench, he will hardly ever drop lampard. Look at Parker who just moved to Newcastle, he is a quality player who was wasted for 2 years, got unhappy cos he was never picked, this will happen again and again. Chequek-Book team, thats all ill say.
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: philo on August 21, 2005, 03:56:29 PM


Well done West Ham on several levels.

I will settle for that away point.


Philo .
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: Gant on August 22, 2005, 12:53:50 AM
Well said baby.. I totally agree.
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: little_bill on August 23, 2005, 11:55:59 AM

Well done West Ham on several levels.

I will settle for that away point.


Philo .
i'll be delighted if the hammers stay up this season, they are a premiership team, no doubt, their history alone demands it.
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: Gant on August 23, 2005, 04:30:41 PM
Watched a good doc on Bobby Moore this evening. What a geezer.
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: vik on August 23, 2005, 11:15:08 PM
1966

yipppeeee


(http://www.mysterymermaid.com/forum/attachment.php?s=&postid=28712)

Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: Lilly on August 26, 2005, 03:15:15 PM
Well done Liverpool, your third Super Cup!  And another Euro comeback.O0

(http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40734000/jpg/_40734256_cisse300x245.jpg)
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: bito on August 26, 2005, 11:27:09 PM
I'm agree with you Lilly

it was great LFC won the third Super Cup and it was deserved   :)
 
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: bito on September 03, 2005, 04:46:23 AM
It's tonight  Denmark plays against Turkey in VM qualification, it will be a exciting game because Denmark shall win the match 

Come on Denmark

England plays against Wales and England will win that match, I think so
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: vik on September 03, 2005, 11:52:40 AM
great to see eriksson's new formation worked so well NOT

when is eriksson going to leave
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: bito on September 03, 2005, 02:03:13 PM
2-2 between Denmark and Turkey  :-[

I think Denmark must be home from Germany next year

they should have won the match
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: vik on September 04, 2005, 12:30:24 AM
yeh considering their game against england bito
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: vik on September 07, 2005, 12:50:40 PM
rooney one of the best players and nowhere to play

wonder what formation they are suppose to be playing

well done scotland

come on england
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: vik on September 07, 2005, 01:41:35 PM
well done northern ireland

(http://forum.skill-club.com/images/smilies/jeroen.gif)

perhaps eriksson will leave - what we have been asking for for the last 2 years might just happen
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: bito on September 07, 2005, 03:41:21 PM
Bad for England tonight

Denmark won 6-1 against Georgien   O0

It was a great match of Denmark, but I think we will not go to Germany next year  :(
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: philo on September 07, 2005, 07:40:25 PM


England were poor.

The only thing I was pleased about was that at least they admitted it.

No interview from the coach.


Philo .
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: Gant on September 08, 2005, 12:23:36 AM
Disaster  >:(
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: little_bill on September 08, 2005, 08:00:00 AM
could be worse Gant, you could have lost to a sub par french team, one minute of class from henry and it was all over. but if they qualify france will need to improve, ireland are awful at the moment, and france never looked like they were in control, if thats the best makalele and zizou can do they should have stayed in retirment
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: vik on September 08, 2005, 12:18:10 PM
can't believe someone would take on an idiot like eriksson and not be able to get rid of him

no performance contract?
maybe a cup sometime?

Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: vik on September 10, 2005, 01:45:55 PM
ooh united held at home by man city
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: philo on September 10, 2005, 01:52:41 PM

West Ham play Villa tomorrow.


Fingers crossed.


Philo .
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: philo on September 12, 2005, 07:33:34 PM

West Ham 4  Aston villa 0


What a result .  :o


Philo .
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: bito on September 12, 2005, 11:14:30 PM
A great result for West Ham   O0

Tonight  CL starter and I look forward to it

Real Betis - LFC  come on your reds

Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: vik on September 13, 2005, 05:11:52 AM
man utd vs vilarreal and no ronaldo

hope rooney is feeling ok
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: bito on September 14, 2005, 02:40:39 AM
Betis - LFC  1-2   

a good start for LFC

Lyon - Real Madrid 3-0  uha uha what a bad game Madrid played,  but Lyon played good and deserved to win that match
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: little_bill on September 14, 2005, 05:54:51 AM
madrid seem more interested in becoming a brand and selling merchandise than actually winning, since beckham joined they've increased their over seas pre season touring in asia and america but if memory serves they only won the kings cup (an equivalent to the league cup) in the two years!!
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: philo on September 14, 2005, 09:06:43 PM


Rooney needs to get a grip.

I was watching the 1973 cup final last night (a great final) no cry baby antics like there are today and very sporting.

Sad to see the way some so called professionals behave today.


Philo .

Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: vik on September 14, 2005, 11:01:06 PM
yeh rooney is acting very badly

i think its more an england thing than man utd

when your let down by erikkson and his stupid antics it goes through to club

he is young and erikkson has put undue pressure on him

you wouldn't see a good manager do that

Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: vik on September 15, 2005, 04:39:49 AM
the refereeing wasn't good though - all those fouls
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: philo on September 15, 2005, 09:46:21 AM


To be fair Vik, I only saw the highlights. He does know he is in the spotlight at the moment and I wish he would calm down.
He is a great talent, but that is not everything and is not included in the word "sportsman"


Philo .
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: vik on September 15, 2005, 09:48:40 PM
regardless whats the point of putting so much pressure on him - i remember ferguson saying he would look after ronaldo - perhaps he could do the same for rooney
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: philo on September 15, 2005, 09:55:06 PM


I think that is what people are hoping will solve the problem.

The fans will be out for him and he needs to keep his head.

I won't complain is he is not playing for any reason when Man utd  play West Ham.  :D


Philo .

 
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: vik on September 15, 2005, 09:55:53 PM
i bet  ;D

west ham hoping for a win  ;)
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: vik on September 15, 2005, 10:31:12 PM
i have just seen that the referee said rooney had it coming - that referee should be sacked - he shouldn't go in to a game with an agenda to red card a player or any idea like that against a player

referring has got more biased and bad and this just proves it
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: little_bill on September 16, 2005, 06:34:06 AM
the referee said rooney had it coming from his actions earlier in the game, he didn't go into the game looking to book him,



he shouldn't have carded him for the clapping anyway , a stern talking to would have done in that case and a warning that next time he's off
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: philo on September 17, 2005, 12:32:47 PM

Fulham 1 - West Ham 2

This is going too well ...... we are peaking too early.

 :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\


Philo .
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: vik on September 17, 2005, 02:16:20 PM
man utd and the walking wounded - can't believe the problems in defence
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: bito on September 17, 2005, 11:34:39 PM
Well done West Ham  :)

LFC - MU today 

Come on your reds beat them
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: little_bill on September 18, 2005, 08:27:40 AM
bit of a lacklustre draw, only decent attempts were garcia break through on the left of the goal area and van nistelrooys chip
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: vik on September 19, 2005, 03:06:16 AM
yeh not a great match and man utd lose keane   :( more defence woes
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: bito on September 26, 2005, 11:25:24 PM

Champions League again tonight  O0

There are 2 interresting matches
 
Man. U - Benfica, we can see it in danish TV

Ajax - Arsenal

I think United will win, but Arsenal will loose to Ajax
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: vik on September 27, 2005, 12:16:07 AM
yeh poor sir alex - hate to see a defeat for man utd come on lads
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: vik on September 27, 2005, 01:47:49 PM
ooh close - good game to watch

well done lads

glory glory man utd
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: bito on September 27, 2005, 11:52:25 PM
It was close and MU was lucky to win the match

Tonight  LFC - Chelsea and we cant see it in danish TV so I look forward to it

I hope the Reds will win   2-0

Come on your Reds
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: vik on September 28, 2005, 06:23:06 AM
eh close umm nevermind
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: vik on September 28, 2005, 02:46:20 PM
oops bito - good game although a bit messy at times

it is always going to be hard to beat chelsea
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: bito on September 28, 2005, 11:29:54 PM
Yeah, it was a good match

LFC had deserved to win I think they played best. 

they should have a penalty when Gallas took his hand to help

I hope LFC will beat them in Premier League Sunday
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: little_bill on September 29, 2005, 04:40:59 AM
wrong person up front cost us bito, crouch can't cut it in the big teams. it should have been cisse adn sinama from the start, chelsea are a little slow at the back, much like liverpools defence, physically strong but lacking in pace, we could have punished them a couple of times only for crouch was out of position and people like garcia were left to run at the defence, cisse shouldn't be started on the wing, he should be played up front, why does rafa keep insisting on playing those two donkeys up front in rotation(morientes and  crouch)
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: bito on September 29, 2005, 07:19:09 AM
I'm agree with you little_bill, but it will be better to Sunday
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: little_bill on September 29, 2005, 08:30:09 AM
i'm thinking that myself.
the way liverpool dominated chelsea should show the other clubs something though, if you go in full force on chelsea and give them no respect you can beat them, if chelsea continue to play llik ethat there's no reason liverpool can't win on sunday, and if we can beat them then utd and arsenal shouldn't have any problems with them( except for arsenals cock- up at the start of the league)
i can't understand why mourinho insists on starting drogba over crespo. and essien, £23m i wouldn't give £23.99 with how badly he's settling, are you kiddin me, thats what happens when you pay over the odds price in football.
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: philo on October 01, 2005, 08:11:52 PM

Sunderland 1 - 1 West Ham

I am pleased if we can pick up point(s) on the road.


Philo .
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: vik on October 01, 2005, 11:51:51 PM
some good games this round

fulham 2 -man utd 3

nice to rooney back
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: little_bill on October 03, 2005, 05:20:37 AM
mcwhoopaged is the only word for it, no way was the differnce between the two teams 4-1, it should have only been 2-1 but it showed up the weakness, especially what rafa said about him not getting the players he wanted, there are too many passengers on the lfc team, (traore, finnan,hyypia,hamann, garcia,crouch) and don't get me started on reina, when is dudek back?
chelsea deserved the win on the day they played better football while liverpool were too busy flapping their gums.
stevie and jamie are the only two who give their heart and soul  each time




bad weekend for the ferdinand brothers at west ham and manchester. neither team lost but the brothers were atrocious, did anyone see rio pulling away from the second goal and then trying to blame van der saar, he has real team spirit that boy.
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: vik on October 03, 2005, 05:44:01 AM
bit worrying crouch is going to play for england

man utd have lost a lot of defenders and always do have a bit of lack of understanding at the back - i think it is now worse - ferdinand did not have a good game but i don't believe all the mix up that seems to be happening is all him


what did you think of the last goal?  offside or not?
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: little_bill on October 03, 2005, 07:14:33 AM
who's last goal?
utd or chelsea?
 either way i thought all 10 goals in the two games (fullham2-3 man utd)  and (liverpool1-4 chelsea) were good, i didn't think there was any problems with them, i was really angry at liverpool playing cole onside and then screaming at the ref that he was offside, it symbolised everything that was wrong with the team, too busy talking and not playing.
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: vik on October 03, 2005, 07:42:03 AM
last man utd goal - whether van nistleroy came from an original off side position?
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: little_bill on October 03, 2005, 07:56:54 AM
didn't see anything wrong with the goal, van niselrooy looked better on saturday than he has in a long time, he's back to the way he was about 2 years ago the goal machine, the game was live on setanta sports here in ireland. i hate watching sky on a saturday, 8 old footballers sitting around a group of tellys oohing and ahhing, describing the action., just show the bloody match >:(
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: vik on October 03, 2005, 08:16:27 AM
cool - there was alot of talk on tv about the goal

yes van nistleroy been given the ball and he looks back to full fitness, and wayne rooney beginning to look back on form to

i thought liverpool well behind the game and a bit messy at the back which was unlike them, good goal by gerrard though
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: little_bill on October 03, 2005, 09:00:04 AM
they were ok in the first half, but liverpool looked like the y couldn't win the conference in the second half, let alone champions league.
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: vik on October 06, 2005, 04:44:52 PM
ooh england vs austria  - is this the end of sven 
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: bito on October 06, 2005, 11:36:42 PM
I don't think so vik, England will win that match.

I can see that match and I will enjoy me to it.


Denmark vs Greece, I think Denmark will win against the European Champions 
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: vik on October 07, 2005, 12:04:07 AM
what do you think of the new england striker crouch - 6 foot 4 inches - good name

wonder if anyone praticed knocking the ball in for him when the call comes in they will all crouch  ::)
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: vik on October 07, 2005, 01:54:07 AM
why campbell for ferdinand??
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: little_bill on October 07, 2005, 04:12:58 AM
i reckon last weeks nightmare performance from ferdinand is why he dropped him, i actually think he's got it worng, if he insists on playing terry then carragher suits terrry's style best to play with but if he's putting on either campbell or ferdinand he should stick with the ferdinand /campbell partnership as the complement each other so well.

if crouch scores i'll kill him, he won't do it for liverpool.
england SHOULD beat austria but don't forget they hauled back a two goal deficit to draw in austria.so they're a bit of a tricky side


Ireland have the mighty cyprus tomorrow.i'm prediciting a 7-0 scoreline......
for cyprus.
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: vik on October 08, 2005, 12:38:34 AM
hope your right little_bill - england win

i hope wales, scotland and northern ireland can win as well
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: vik on October 08, 2005, 02:33:28 PM
ooh close shave for sven - nevermind the football what an awful game

bad luck to becks

where did they get that ref from
he was a bloomin joke
i think even my mum could see
that poor becks was not to blame

where did they get ref from
his main game must be twiddlwinks
because everytime becks tried to play
the ref took out his card

where did they get that ref from
didn't he see the austrian takea dive
of course not because the fool
was lookin the other way

where do they get them refs from
everytime an england player gets the ball
regardless if its rooney or becks
there gonna given em a card

glory glory england lets go and win in germany
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: philo on October 08, 2005, 07:01:29 PM

We will never win the world cup playing like that.

We were poor.


Philo .
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: bito on October 08, 2005, 11:44:57 PM

Denmark won 1-0 against Greece, and have still a chance to go to VM

I agree with you, England played badley, and will not win the World Cup with that play

My favourite is Brazil, I like football as they play.
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: vik on October 09, 2005, 12:07:12 AM
quite bito there isn't an european team who can play anything like brazil unfortunately, but that not to say brazil isn't without some negativity in their game

by the way they said if english league  took on all these foreign players it would be good for the english league games, instead its got worse and more negative and less goals have been scored, and the england team play worse (i am not saying all foreign players but certainly there should be only a certain amount so that
the home players get a chance)

like the person who took on sven without a clause to kick the donut out, it seems they don't think first 
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: Gant on October 09, 2005, 12:45:18 AM
Poor performance from England (despite some bad decisions by Ref)
We should have gone all out to nail em and we didn't. Very negative and depressing.
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: vik on October 09, 2005, 12:59:00 AM
yes- sven the donut has lost the art of football, the defense was horrible   :-\

yeh and anybody could read the ball into crouch, you won't win games that way, even if any of them got on target which they didn't

and crouch can't play any other way
all predictable and negative
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: little_bill on October 09, 2005, 03:59:37 PM
i've been saying crouch is rubbish since the start of the season, if liverpool wanted to waste 7million they should have given it to me.
your ref was $#!te, sorry for the language but it's true. neither challenge from beckham warranted a free, nevermind a card.

you might get your way about the english players in the english league soon, with Uefas rules coming in over the next three years where approx 3/4 of the team must be not only english but alsoi naturalised to the club (i.e brought up through the youth teams or else playing for the club for over 5 years.) something like that, not sure of the exact ruling.

look on the bright side you didn't play well and you beat austria, we struggled to stay on the pitch with cyprus(no offence, but do they even have footballs in cyprus) ireland are pure muck, i'd be embarressed if we got to germany
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: bito on October 12, 2005, 02:18:08 AM

Who will be number one England or Polen, I think England will win and win the group.

Kazachstan vs Denmark,  Denmark should win that match and I hope Albania take a point from Turkey so Denamrk can get a play off match
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: bito on October 29, 2005, 10:51:58 PM

It was good Liverpool beat West Ham 2-0  O0
so we LFC fans can be happy again after 2 loose matches

I saw MU loose to Middelsbourgh, what a match Middelsbourgh played well done  O0

Wigan must be a big surprise in Premier League, they are number 2
I think that is good for them but how long will they be there
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: Gant on October 30, 2005, 01:40:50 AM
Bad day at the office for Man U..... ;D
Title: Re: football (english,champions,uefa) season 2005-2006
Post by: little_bill on October 30, 2005, 04:42:47 AM
I think that is good for them but how long will they be there

well as long as thgey are winning they'll be there, they've already put in great performances against some big teams.
it took chelsea til the 94th minute to score against them, they were robbed