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Title: The Enforcer
Post by: Brendan on December 04, 2002, 01:06:03 PM
Well today I re-watched The Enforcer. Now, the last time I saw it, was quite a few years ago, so I forgot most of it.

Today when I was watching it, I realized it isnt that bad of a movie.

Its just, well, Harry didnt seem like the Harry from 'Dirty Harry'. He seemed more loosened up and he was cracking more jokes.

I dont know, maybe its just me.

But I must admit, there was one scene near the begining when Harry was being demoted to personal, that made me laugh. He said "Personal is for a**holes!" then the cheif said, "I worked personal for 10 years!!" then Harry stood there with a blank expression on his face and just said, "yah". ;D It was quite amusing.

The performances were "marvelous" all around, but the movie still didnt seem to do it for me.

I tried Matt. I will admit, however, that, yes, I was hard on it during the Eastwood Film Survivor.

Its not my favourite Dirty Harry[/b] movie, that one is held by, well, Dirty Harry of course ::). But it does replace The Dead Pool as my fourth favourite Harry movie. So there you go Matt.

Maybe in the next Eastwood film survivor, I wont be so fast to knock it off the island. ;)
Title: Re: The Enforcer
Post by: Holden Pike on December 04, 2002, 01:15:41 PM
I think you're probably insane if any movie other than The Dead Pool is fifth on your list of favorite Harry Callahan flicks.

I'd rank The Enforcer fourth as well. It's not a bad movie, but it doesn't have the darkness of Sudden Imapct or the cleverness of Magnum Force. Tyne Daly was good and Cint is Clint, but the plot line was definitely on the hoaky side and insufferably dated.



And Nightwing, why didn't you post this in the Dirty Harry Forum?!?  ???
Title: Re: The Enforcer
Post by: Brendan on December 04, 2002, 01:24:00 PM
And Nightwing, why didn't you post this in the Dirty Harry Forum?!?  ???

Good question. I really dont know. Maybe it has something to do with the new board? ??? OR maybe its just becasue when I logged on, I saw 'General Discussion' first and just decided to post it here.

The Moderators can move it if they want. 8)
Title: Re: The Enforcer
Post by: Agent on December 04, 2002, 01:28:30 PM
Maybe you're still shaken up over that fender-bender yesterday(?)  :P
Title: Re: The Enforcer
Post by: Holden Pike on December 04, 2002, 01:29:18 PM
Oh, they shall, my friend. They shall. (http://www.movieforums.net/images/smilies/yup.gif)
Title: Re: The Enforcer
Post by: Holden Pike on December 04, 2002, 02:13:26 PM
See.  ;)
Title: Re: The Enforcer
Post by: Brendan on December 04, 2002, 02:33:58 PM
Thanks Holden. ;)

And Agent, that accident could be a possbility.

But, either way, The Enforcer, I believe, still isnt one of Eastwoods best movies. ;)
Title: Re: The Enforcer
Post by: Christopher on December 05, 2002, 10:30:00 AM
The Enforcer is one of my favorite Harry sequels. I also really like Magnum Force a lot. I like the Harry's from the 1970's more than the '80s. (This is all starting to sound really familar to me, like maybe I posted these same thoughts on the old board) I don't want to take anything away from Sudden Impact or The Dead Pool because I've always had a lot of fun watching them as well.
Title: Re: The Enforcer
Post by: little_bill on December 10, 2002, 09:49:16 AM
i'm gonna get hell for this  but  i actually rank them in the order they came out, i like enforcer, i think it shows harry in a different situation, female partner and demoted and then promoted, its kinda cool to see the character handle the situations, the character of harry calaghan in enforcer for me was always the closest to the original dirty harry, something to do with th edetermination and the way he threw away his badge at the end of DH but seemed to be playing happy camper in MF he was back to being grumpy mean and nasty in enforcer.
just my opinion anyway
Title: Re: The Enforcer
Post by: Agent on December 10, 2002, 10:29:23 AM
Yeah, first impressions can stick with you permanently, especially if you first saw certain  Eastwood films as a young kid. I recall The Enforcer being a big deal on primetime network television in the 70s, the “ABC Movie of the Week” (or whatever network it was broadcast on), with TV Guide featuring a half page article on the movie . So watching that with everyone crowded around the big TV in the living room made it all the more exciting. I also recall Play Misty, Beguiled, Joe Kidd, Thunderbolt, High Plains, etc, that were big events on network primetime TV back then (several years before cable was even heard of by most households). I mean, with no video players on the market yet, you made time to watch those because who knew when they’d be broadcast again?

Guess what I'm trying to say is, alot of semi-corny Eastwood films today (like Enforcer), were big deals in the 70s, since the chance to view them wasn't too often.

Man, how times have changed.  :)
Title: Re: The Enforcer
Post by: Walt on January 26, 2003, 05:06:49 AM
The Enforcer while it may be the weakest of the original three movies is head and shoulders over Sudden Impact and The Dead Pool .
It's got good villains, a decent partner and a suitably downbeat 70s ending . It also features one of the best set pieces in the series when Harry drives through the shop window 44 Magnum blazing .
Title: Re: The Enforcer
Post by: Smith&Wesson44 on January 29, 2003, 05:10:31 AM
I think of Enforcer as the weakest of the series.  By that I mean slight on action and more focused on character development (Harry's reaction to a female partner, Moore trying to gain Harry's respect).  But it has my favorite scene of any DH...the Tiffany's scene where he beats the bloody blue hell out of the pimp and the bouncer.
Title: Re: The Enforcer
Post by: MikeyJ86 on March 10, 2003, 08:19:37 PM
The Enforcer is my favorite Dirty Harry movie!  I think the dialogue between Harry and his new female partner is enjoyable, and it's wicked cool how Harry bloows the last bad dude away with a bazooka after his partner gets shot.

Dirty Harry is my second favorite only because the Scorpio killer is such an annoying bastard; It's very gratifying when he gets shot.
Title: Re: The Enforcer
Post by: Brendan on March 10, 2003, 10:10:19 PM
The Enforcer is my favorite Dirty Harry movie!  I think the dialogue between Harry and his new female partner is enjoyable, and it's wicked cool how Harry bloows the last bad dude away with a bazooka after his partner gets shot.

Dirty Harry is my second favorite only because the Scorpio killer is such an annoying bastard; It's very gratifying when he gets shot.

The bazooka was a sell-out tactic. I didnt like it one bit. It seemed like they were trying to make Harry a 'Rambo' type guy by making him use the bazooka. Pathetic and lame.

And Scorpio is supposed to be an annoying bastard. That was the character, you wanted him to get what he deserved, and that happened.
Title: Re: The Enforcer
Post by: ajay on March 10, 2003, 10:35:35 PM
nightwing. whenever i think of enforcer one thing which comes to my mind is the conversation that takes place  regarding the personel dept, and the expressions by clint  thereafter. enforcer is good but nowhere near dirty harry or magnum force.
Title: Re: The Enforcer
Post by: Brendan on March 10, 2003, 10:48:48 PM
I wasnt saying the whole movie was a sell-out becuase of the bazooka scene, just that one part. It was a sell out ending. A very disapointing ending from my point of view.  ;)
Title: Re: The Enforcer
Post by: KC on March 10, 2003, 10:55:01 PM
The bazooka was a sell-out tactic. I didnt like it one bit. It seemed like they were trying to make Harry a 'Rambo' type guy by making him use the bazooka. Pathetic and lame
Hmm, Nightwing, since the first "Rambo" film came out in 1982 ... six years after The Enforcer ... it seems reasonable to assume that whatever the filmmakers' intent was with the LAWS rocket, it was not to make Harry Callahan a "Rambo type guy."
Title: Re: The Enforcer
Post by: Brendan on March 10, 2003, 11:12:56 PM
I was just using Rambo as an example. I knew the movie came out way after The Enforcer.

What I was saying, was that they were trying to make some huge action hero that would go around with a machine blowing people away, getting pumped full of bullets, but still going on. The first John Rambo/John McClaine if you will.

I felt as though, they ruined part of the Harry character for me when they made him use that rockett launcher.

All was fixed though, with that elevator scene and then the coffee shop scene in Sudden Impact. :D
Title: Re: The Enforcer
Post by: Matt on March 11, 2003, 12:02:14 AM
What I was saying, was that they were trying to make some huge action hero that would go around with a machine blowing people away, getting pumped full of bullets, but still going on. The first John Rambo/John McClaine if you will.


 ???  I don't see it.  I mean, not even close.   Harry was never "pumped full of bullets", but he did take a bullet here or there... he took one in Dirty Harry... and still kept "going on."  Doesn't make him a "Rambo type," does it?   What's so bad about him using the Laws rocket?  It was part of the storyline, it didn't just come out of nowhere like the harpoon gun in The Dead Pool.

But, I guess this just had to become another thread comparing Eastwood to either Schwarzenegger or Stallone.  That's been going on since you started posting regularly... even if there IS no comparison.  ;)
Title: Re: The Enforcer
Post by: Christopher on March 11, 2003, 12:37:14 PM
The harpoon gun in The Dead Pool was overdoing it a little, the rocket in The Enforcer was convenient.

I just noticed this from Smith&Wesson's post from a little while back:
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I think of Enforcer as the weakest of the series.  By that I mean slight on action and more focused on character development.
This is something that I've always liked about the Harry movies from the '70s in general. They aren't as focused on action the way Sudden Impact and The Dead Pool are. In those last two, you get the feeling people are getting shot just for the spectacle of it.
Usually, I can't decide which movie to put second on my list of favorites from the series, The Enforcer or Magnum Force. I like both just about equally.
Title: Re: The Enforcer
Post by: Matt on March 11, 2003, 04:44:09 PM
The Enforcer is actually my favorite Harry sequel.  The villains aren't as good as the death squad cops in Magnum Force, but they're a world better than those in Sudden Impact.  I think Kate is by far a more interesting partner than Early Smith... there's just a ton more character development here, and that's an important factor to me.  And Harry is just a little "dirtier" in The Enforcer than he is in Magnum Force.  I guess they were trying to quiet the "fascist" remarks with Magnum Force and bent over backwards to make sure everyone knew they were wrong about Harry if they thought that... and in so doing, they made Harry the #1 cop in San Francisco.   I thought it was great to see Harry bucking the system again in The Enforcer, instead of trying to fix it like he did in Magnum Force.  And some of my favorite Eastwood scenes of all time are in The Enforcer, mainly the "7 point suppository" and "oral examining board" scenes... just great Callahan moments.

Sudden Impact is more visually mature and adept, but it's more a Jennifer Spencer movie than a Harry Callahan one.   And while I love Harry's one-liners, someone else here once said  that's all there IS to this movie... just one snarly one-liner after another.  You know what?   That was a pretty good call.

I like Magnum Force, but I rate it third, and Sudden Impact is fourth.  The Enforcer has a few weak moments, but the good moments more than make up for those.  It's just fun to watch and a real enjoyable couple of hours.
Title: Re: The Enforcer
Post by: Brendan on March 11, 2003, 10:11:36 PM
???  I don't see it.  I mean, not even close.   Harry was never "pumped full of bullets", but he did take a bullet here or there... he took one in Dirty Harry... and still kept "going on."  Doesn't make him a "Rambo type," does it?   What's so bad about him using the Laws rocket?  It was part of the storyline, it didn't just come out of nowhere like the harpoon gun in The Dead Pool.

But, I guess this just had to become another thread comparing Eastwood to either Schwarzenegger or Stallone.  That's been going on since you started posting regularly... even if there IS no comparison.  ;)

I dont care anymore.

And I dont care anymore what you people think about Arnold Schwarzenegger. Hate him if you want, I really dont care.

I didnt like the Enforcer all that much, and my opinion will never change on it. Say what you will about it, I didnt like it.
Title: Re: The Enforcer
Post by: Matt on March 12, 2003, 08:39:18 PM
Nightwing, this is a discussion board.  You made a statement that some of us didn't agree with and we responded to your post... that's what we do.  That's sort of... the whole reason we're here.  I'm not trying to convince you that you should like The Enforcer... everyone doesn't have to like and dislike the same movies, you're free to have your own opinion.  But if you give opinions that are a little off-the-wall, like the idea that they were trying to make Dirty Harry a Rambo-type character because he used a Laws rocket... or that he got pumped with bullets and kept going... you may have to defend your post if others come along and offer their differing opinions.

And yes, it's a little tiresome to read post after post of yours that compares Eastwood in some way to Stallone or Schwarzenegger... they're not in the same class of actor or film-maker.  If either of them branch out into movies that have as much range as Eastwood's shown in his career... westerns, cop, romance, musical, comedy, drama, thriller, murder mystery, documentaries, etc.  and then directs them, composes the music for them, casts them, produces them, assists in the editing, and whatever else goes into making a film which I'm sure Eastwood sinks his teeth into... I could understand the comparisons.  But as it is... I stand by my statement... there IS no comparison.  It doesn't mean I hate Schwarzenegger... I honestly don't care enough about him or his films to hate him. If you're a big fan of his, that's fine.  Find a message board where they discuss his films... and then compare them to Eastwood's films time and time again and see how long before that gets tiresome to HIS fans.
Title: Re: The Enforcer
Post by: Brendan on March 12, 2003, 09:49:11 PM
I understand Matt. I apologize for my post and after re-reading it now, I know it wasnt really fair. Last night, some unpleasentess happened, and I shouldnt have brought my emotions to the board, and said what I said. I'm sorry.

Now, I agree that we all have our own opinions and we should expect retaliation. Thats a given.

But what it seems to me is that they were getting away from the Harry Callahan from 'Dirty Harry' and turning him into something else. The use of the rocket launcher bothered me becuase it was too over the top, just like the use of the harpoon gun in 'The Dead Pool', it wasnt needed.

'The Enforcer' did have great moments, I'll give it that, but whenever I think about it, I think of the bad moments. And just not getting the same satisfaction out of it as I did with 'Dirty Harry' and 'Magnun Force'.

Maybe oneday, after many viewings, it will grow on me, and I'll come to like it. Who knows?

Heres an idea, add this film to the 'Film Discussion Forum'. I own the film, so it would be easier for me to watch it within the next few weeks and write notes down.

Maybe some stuff discussed there will change my mind?
Title: Re: The Enforcer
Post by: Matt on March 12, 2003, 10:03:38 PM
We'll probably discuss the Dirty Harry series in order... and mgk, KC and I have also already started wondering the best way to approach the discussions on these films.  I think we've decided (though we're likely to still change our minds) that we'd like to break them up a little instead of doing them one after the other, because that way if a Dirty Harry fan comes along to the forum when we're done discussing them... he won't have any to look forward to until we recycle the discussions in... TWO YEARS!  :o

Anyway, it might be a while before we get to The Enforcer for that reason, but there's no reason we can't continue to discuss it in this thread, or in other threads while we're waiting.

Back to the discussion...

Another thing I like about The Enforcer is Harry's sadness... (just love to see Harry tortured. ;) )  I think he had really grown to caring deeply for Kate, and she dies in his arms.  She was his partner--he was responsible for her... she saved him--he couldn't save her.  This is heart-breaking.  I like seeing this side of Harry better than the Harry that women-want-but-none-can-have (Carol and Sunny both throw themselves at him) in Magnum Force.   It's just my opinion, but it's the character and character development that I love so much in The Enforcer... better than the story.  And I love Tyne Daly's and Albert Popwell's performances.... just great, great characters.
Title: Re: The Enforcer
Post by: Christopher on March 14, 2003, 09:35:42 PM
I just watched The Enforcer again tonight.

Two words that immediately come to mind are: Marvelous and Swell.

Yeah, everything I've said before about this movie holds up (for me, anyhow). It really is the 2nd or 3rd best Harry movie. I'm leaning towards 2nd right now, but who knows how I could feel about it the next time I watch Magnum Force.
Title: Re: The Enforcer
Post by: Matt on March 14, 2003, 09:59:53 PM
 If only the rooftop chase scene was a little shorter...

I agree, it's a great movie.   8)
Title: Re: The Enforcer
Post by: Christopher on March 14, 2003, 10:01:37 PM
If only the rooftop chase scene was a little shorter...
Really? I enjoyed that chase scene. Something about the music in that scene just sounds cool to me.

One thing that struck me odd about that scene, though, was when Kate is running along on the ground, she suddenly comes to this place where she can see Harry chasing that guy on a building across the street. Am I explaining that well enough? I found it odd that they could get all the way on another building. Of course, I could have seen all this the wrong way.
Title: Re: The Enforcer
Post by: Matt on March 15, 2003, 03:02:46 AM
 ???  I remember them jumping from one building to another at least once.
Title: Re: The Enforcer
Post by: Christopher on March 15, 2003, 10:34:47 AM
I do recall them jumping on some other buildings, but I'm just puzzled. I probably should have added something to this statement:
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I found it odd that they could get all the way on another building
on the other side of the street.

It may not be a goof or anything, I'm probably mistaken.
Title: Re: The Enforcer
Post by: ajay on March 15, 2003, 09:45:33 PM
i think in both 'enforcer' and 'the dead pool' using the bazooka and harpoon was overdoing a bit. harry has always trusted the magnum and that is what he should stick to,the way he  did in dirty harry and sudden impact.
Title: Re: The Enforcer
Post by: davytriumph on March 19, 2003, 12:06:54 PM
I totally agree with you ajay,  those endings were poor.

And was`nt the ending for "magnum force" a little disappointing too??
Title: Re: The Enforcer
Post by: Hemlock on March 20, 2003, 05:46:24 PM
And was`nt the ending for "magnum force" a little disappointing too??
I remember thinking that way when I first saw it (I was about 11 years old ;D).Today I think it was clever idea to put Harry in the situation where he could not just shoot the bad guys.
The"Man got to know his limitation"line in the end is marvellous.
Title: Re: The Enforcer
Post by: Big Ed Mustafa on November 10, 2003, 09:24:56 PM
Its just, well, Harry didnt seem like the Harry from 'Dirty Harry'. He seemed more loosened up and he was cracking more jokes.

I dont know, maybe its just me.

I felt that way as well, but even more so about the portrayal of Harry in The Dead Pool. It would seem to me that at that age (let's just assume 58, since that was Clint's real age in 1988) that Harry would be more grouchy and fed up with the system then ever. I think the character just wasn't written well for TDP, and could've been done a hell of a lot better. It seems like the writers tried to make Harry more like a Bruce Willis (in the Did Hard films) style hero, especially with the one-liners like, "you're $#!t outta luck" and when he tells Donnely that Rook is "hangin' out back there." Lines like that sound like something Schwarzennegar would say.
Title: Re: The Enforcer
Post by: Bronco_Billy on November 25, 2003, 10:10:27 AM
poor entry in the series frankly , stupid hippy villians.
 
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Title: Re: The Enforcer
Post by: skippy on December 05, 2003, 11:22:45 AM
the best secene i like is at the end where he's the chief and his partener is  the cop. Opppps thats the Rookie never mind.         :-[
Title: Re: The Enforcer
Post by: Gant on December 06, 2003, 12:19:08 PM
For me the whole series gradualy goes downhill after Dirty Harry. Thats not to say that there isn't much to enjoy.. Eastwood always gives an entertaining performance.. I guess as the series preogressed it just bacame harder and harder to come up with original ideas... If I was trying to impress someone I'd show them the first one only.

Magnum Force is a good slick thriller and stands up well today as such. I think The Enforcer has a lot going for it, the humor, Harrys relationship with Tyne Daily's chatacter but on the whole it isn't a great movie.. it just has a handful of good/fun moments. I ernjoy watching it but it falls a long way short of the first two entries in the series in my opinion... As for Sudden Impact.... To be honest I find some of this a little difficult to watch today. All that violence against Locke is not enjoyable and I found the ending a little too contrived. It doesn't really work as a thriller tho' of course there are some nice directorial touches and I like the soundtrack on this one. As for dead Pool.. Nahhhhhhhh best left... ;)


The rooftop chase in The Enforcer may be a tad overlong but it's got a great jazzy soundtrack. On the whole I guess The Enforcer wasn't too bad for a third in the series movie... just not a patch of the first two.
Title: Re: The Enforcer
Post by: Perry on December 09, 2003, 04:08:35 PM
HI:
       I think i might have responded to this sometime ago, but here it goes. I thought they should have quit after Magnum Force. I thought it was a good serquel, but that scece at the end with Harry and David Soul's character on the bikes where all you see is the helmet fall tot e ground and Soul go flying in the river has to be one of the worst directed scenes i ever saw for a big confrontation. the Enforcer was ok, but I thought the movie really lacked a good villian and that scene where tyne Daly is running and Harry is after that guy goes on too  long. Sudden Impact I didnt care for prob because Sondra Locke in anything Clint did ruined any movie he did.As far as The Dead Pool...That was a payback movie for Warners Brothers because they financed Bird. So, all in all Dirty Harry was  stiil, and is the best one of them all..
Title: Re: The Enforcer
Post by: The Schofield Kid on April 24, 2005, 04:55:40 AM
I like The Enforcer,to give Harry a woman partner was pure genius.At the start he doesn't like it one bit,but as the film goes along he gradually accepts her.The look on Harry's face when he sees that Kate is his new partner is a classic.The chemistry between the two was great.
I don't mind the end to The Enforcer,I think a bullet wasn't enough for Harry to kill Bobby Maxwell.Bobby had killed Digiorgio and when Kate died in Harry's arms you can see the anger in Harry's face.When Kate says to Harry just before she dies to get him(Bobby)Harry says you can count on it,you know it's going to be a little different from the first two movies.
One thing that I noticed today for the first time was the scene where Harry is talking to Big Ed Mustapha and Harry says that if you don't help me I'll tell everyone you're an EAR.I always thought he said queer,but with the DVD subtitles it's definitely EAR.I never heard this expression before,what's it mean?
Title: Re: The Enforcer
Post by: KC on April 24, 2005, 08:11:24 AM
I assume "ear" is cant for one who reveals secrets of the underworld to the police, i.e. rats on his fellow crooks.

Thanks, tgy, for reviving all these oldies but goodies!  8)
Title: Re: The Enforcer
Post by: nightwolf05 on March 22, 2006, 04:59:51 PM
I watched The Enforcer last night for the first time in several years.
I thought the beginning of the movie was not th best acting I have seen from Clint.
The way he acted in the personal change scene did not seem to flow natural.
And I felt the same type of performacing in the other actors in that scene as it just looked like acting not a natural flow.
Then the movie kicked in and the acting was much better and kept my attention.
I enjoyed the rest of the movie right up to the end.
But I felt a tad disappointed at the ending simply because it just seemed to end so quickly.
So I did not like the ending as it just seemed like there was room for a continuation even if the main plot was to stop the guys who where blowing up the city etc.
I enjoyed the movie.
But I cant say this will be on my list of favorites.
nightwolf05
Title: Re: The Enforcer
Post by: Philo Beddoe Jr on March 23, 2006, 08:33:49 AM
I wonder why they re-used the Bogie title?

WKC.
Title: Re: The Enforcer
Post by: nightwolf05 on March 24, 2006, 11:34:50 AM
I don't think the title was Bogie!
I think Adding the Enforcer into the name also helped fans realize it was Dirty Harry.
And Clint Eastwood certainly fits the part of the Enforcer :-)
I watched the movie again last night without interuption this time.
I liked it much better.
I think what I did not like about the personnel change scene was more the actor playing Clint's boss.
But as soon as that office scene ended!
The plot of the movie began to flow and I enjoyed it very much.
Still cant say its a favorite.
I think my favorite of all so far is Every Which way but loose.
However there are many Clint Eastwood movies I have not seen yet.
I plan on watching as many as possible that I have not seen.
And I will enjoy posting my thoughts on these movies as I watch them.
just my 2 cents worth !
nightwold05
Title: Re: The Enforcer
Post by: Doug on April 10, 2006, 04:30:09 PM
I don't think the title was Bogie!

I think you misunderstood wkc.  The Enforcer was the name of a 1951 Humphrey Bogart movie.   ;)
Title: Re: The Enforcer
Post by: mary mary on April 13, 2006, 04:11:13 AM
Just to save any other confusion, Bogart's Excellent THE ENFORCER is also known in some countries as Murder Inc.

I like The Enforcer, for me it was a more fitting way to end the series of film's, as I tend to think that Sudden Impact and Dead Pool took the original persona of Harry Callahan to almost unrecognisable depths. The stories were hugely overinflated and I just didn't think that Harry looked like a cop of the 80's and 90's. A familiar ingredient missing from The Enforcer is of course a Lalo Schifrin score, he was asked to do it, but was scoring Voyage of the Damned at the time (Sad for us, good for him, as he won an Academy Award nomination for the score).

The Enforcer does benefit from some great set pieces, I think the Liquor store hold up is a cracking scene, and the Alcatraz encounter I think works quite well for the film's climax, I can't help thinking that the final of The Enforcer was originally intended to bring the series of film's to a close, I see Harry truly beaten, not in a professional sense, but personally, I see a man who has seen a young woman killed, and perhaps more importantly, killed while saving Harry's life, which I think is the point that is often quickly forgotten. I'm left thinking that Harry is going to carry the weight of Kate's death, and for me, it would have been a more fitting end to the series, life just isn't all about happy endings.
Title: Re: The Enforcer
Post by: philo on April 13, 2006, 06:31:30 AM

I totally agree. The end of any Harry film up to and including The Enforcer was always reflective.

With all the talk of doing another Harry film I have always felt that we should have said goodbye to him in 1976.


Philo .
Title: Re: The Enforcer
Post by: Americanbeauty on April 13, 2006, 03:16:55 PM
I agree.

The first three Dirty Harry's were very good -my opinion  ;)

But the two other sequels shouldn't have seen the light of the day. Sure there are some good things in both Sudden Impact and The Dead Pool -Eastwood's one of them  ;), but 5 was definitely too much.


This said, I like The Enforcer a lot. One of the things that appealed to me the first time I watched it, was the "relationship" Harry/Kate Moore. You find out that although Harry looks and acts like a "macho" sometimes, he's capable of emotions. Hard nosed with a soft side.

Besides, it is very funny.
When Harry is called on the scene of a hold-up and "gives" the guys the car they've requested, when he goes to personel, when he meets the mayor and is suspended by McKay (the "seven point suppository"  ;D), when he talks with Kate ( "Does everything have a sexual connotation with you?"  ;D that scene was great), when he says  "marvelous" and "Oh, sh*t!" (I know that's not much, but it CRACKS-ME-UP when he says that  :D) ....

I also like the end very much, because it is reminiscent of Dirty Harry ... Harry feeling powerless and disenchanted, disgusted by the system, the corruption.

The Enforcer is pure Dirty Harry  8)
Title: Re: The Enforcer
Post by: Christopher on April 13, 2006, 09:11:53 PM
Of all the sequels, I think I tend to watch The Enforcer more than the others.
Title: Re: The Enforcer
Post by: Lilly on April 14, 2006, 07:02:52 PM
I can't help thinking that the final of The Enforcer was originally intended to bring the series of film's to a close, I see Harry truly beaten, not in a professional sense, but personally, I see a man who has seen a young woman killed, and perhaps more importantly, killed while saving Harry's life, which I think is the point that is often quickly forgotten.

Maybe that's why his sympathy for Jennifer Spencer in Sudden Impact was sufficient to cause him to bend the rules at the end? ???  This tie-in of the female character theme is something I hadn't noticed before.  I'm not saying it was by design, necessarily.
Title: Re: The Enforcer
Post by: mary mary on April 14, 2006, 07:32:26 PM
That's an interesting point Lilly.
Title: Re: The Enforcer
Post by: Philo Beddoe Jr on April 22, 2006, 01:41:18 PM
I've said somewhere else that I like the fact that Harry finally found a girl in The Dead Pool.

He had been alone too long :'(.

WKC.
Title: Re: The Enforcer
Post by: MrC on July 30, 2006, 08:46:53 PM
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Title: Re: The Enforcer
Post by: Perry on September 05, 2006, 11:58:36 AM
I can't help thinking that the final of The Enforcer was originally intended to bring the series of film's to a close, I see Harry truly beaten, not in a professional sense, but personally,


You know, Thats a really good point. I never relly thought about that, plus remember DiGiorgio got killed too, So Harry in a sense lost two people.
The Enforcer I have to admit I like in some aspects, but for the wrong reasons. The 'Larry Dickman" scene is a riot as well as some of the one liners." Thats mighty White Of You".HAH! There are some pretty funny stuff, but I always felt that chase scene with Eastwood and Daly chasing that dude in the streets. rooftops was sooooooooooooo long. Let;s face it no one was ever going to beat the original. Like I always felt, They should have quit after Magnum Force.
Title: Re: The Enforcer
Post by: Perry on October 06, 2006, 03:24:39 PM


Interesting thing about  one of the actresses who was in The Enforcer and thats Samantha Doane who played Wanda and also the Biker Chick in The Gauntlet, buts she actually an author and lecturer and metaphysician for hypotherapy regression which i guess is some sort of self healing. She actually has a website.
Title: Re: The Enforcer
Post by: KC on October 06, 2006, 05:14:44 PM
Thanks for this information, Perry. Here's the link you forgot:

http://www.samanthadoane-bates.com/
Title: Re: The Enforcer
Post by: Americanbeauty on October 06, 2006, 07:02:00 PM
Interesting info, Perry. Thanks for the link KC.
Title: Re: The Enforcer
Post by: Philo Beddoe Jr on November 20, 2006, 10:06:23 AM
Just rewatched this on my 100 inch projection screen.

Pretty good DVD transfer which held up well for the big screen.

Good nostalgic experience.  Interesting mixture of light hearted humour with deeply tragic moments as well. 

WKC.
Title: Re: The Enforcer
Post by: little_bill on November 20, 2006, 12:12:27 PM
I can't help thinking that the final of The Enforcer was originally intended to bring the series of film's to a close, I see Harry truly beaten, not in a professional sense, but personally, I see a man who has seen a young woman killed, and perhaps more importantly, killed while saving Harry's life, which I think is the point that is often quickly forgotten

i've no link for this but when watching the eastwood season on Irish Television about 10 years ago the chap introducing the films explained that Eastwood made Sudden Impact and Dead Pool after moving Malpaso to a new studio (from Universal to WB i think)and that they pressured him into making Harry Movies as they were guaranteed moneymakers, apparently it was the pay off for letting him make his own movies. so then you'd be right about the enforcer being an ending.

now i can't vouch for anything there, also i know malpaso weren't behind Dirty Harry and they were WB already but i think the deal was eastwoods own projects were malpaso who were tied to Universal. anyway someone like Matt or KC or Brendan will sort it out if they happen by i'm sure. ;)
Title: Re: The Enforcer
Post by: Philo Beddoe Jr on November 20, 2006, 01:04:55 PM
nah,

the series hasn't ended yet  ;).

WKC.
Title: Re: The Enforcer
Post by: Brannigan on December 16, 2012, 09:46:27 PM
I just watched this one for the first time in a while and I gotta say, I don't remember it being so disappointing. The plot seemed weak and even some of the dialogue was weak. But I think the biggest draw back was the quickly emerging cliche's, e.g Harry is a dinosaur, Harry needs to accept women and minorities, etc. Unfortunately while these were good in the original Dirty Harry and even Magnum Force, they were tired in the Enforcer. It also seemed that the character of Harry Callahan was played for laughs. The test of Moore was entertaining, but ultimately came off more comedic than it should have. Finally the plot. Surely they could have come up with something more exciting than a James Bond-ish type plot of kidnapping and ransom. I think it would have worked better if they could have come up with a Charles Manson type group instead and thus give the villains some sense of danger.
So what does everyone else think? 
Title: Re: The Enforcer
Post by: The Schofield Kid on December 17, 2012, 02:32:06 AM
I've always enjoyed The Enforcer for all the reasons you just mentioned, Brannigan. Harry's working relationship with Kate. The comedic aspects in the film worked well for me as well. Harry's disgust at being partnered with a woman at the start but by the end of the film, she just maybe the best partner he's ever had.
Title: Re: The Enforcer
Post by: Brannigan on December 17, 2012, 09:22:25 AM
I actually felt that while Harry's relationship with Kate was good, I was cringing at times because it appeared as though they might have ended up together, which would have been totally against Harry's creed. I am of course talking about the scene at Coit Tower where they are having a beer after Harry has been dismissed from a case. Kate is talking about sex and it just started getting uncomfortable.
Title: Re: The Enforcer
Post by: Denis91 on August 30, 2016, 12:06:57 PM
There are some quotes which are difficult to understand for non-American people. For instance when Callahan says : « This is the Fillmore chapter of the VFW... Very Few Whites». On the French version, Fillmore isn't mentioned. What is the meaning of this sentence, please ?
Title: Re: The Enforcer
Post by: KC on August 30, 2016, 07:30:53 PM
The Filmore District is a neighborhood in San Francisco, historically known for its African-American population.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fillmore_District,_San_Francisco

http://www.blackpast.org/aaw/fillmore-district-san-francisco

If you are wondering about "V.F.W.," it more usually stands for Veterans of Foreign Wars, a veterans' group with chapters all over the U.S.
Title: Re: The Enforcer
Post by: Denis91 on September 01, 2016, 12:17:48 PM
Thanks a lot for your explanations.