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Title: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: Adam S. on June 26, 2011, 02:32:34 AM
I had heard some friends talking about the remake of The Mechanic (with Jason Statham, I believe?). I haven't seen it and have no intention of sitting through another CGI explosion fest, but it did prompt me to watch the original version again tonight and, as always, I come away impressed by how underrated Charles Bronson still is as an actor. From supporting roles in classics like The Magnificent Seven, The Dirty Dozen, and The Great Escape to his big break in Once Upon a Time in the West to his iconic portrayal of Paul Kersey in Death Wish (every bit the equal of the original Dirty Harry, in my opinion), he added something unique to every movie he was in. Not to mention Mr. Majestyk and so many others in the '70s. As far as I'm concerned, he, along with Eastwood and Burt Reynolds were the Holy Trinity of '70s cinema.

Even later in his career, although his films were normally panned by critics, the movies were entertaining and he was great in them.
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: The Schofield Kid on June 27, 2011, 11:06:48 PM
One Bronson film that I've always liked was Death Hunt. I haven't seen it in years and I think it was based on a true story about a man hunt in the snowy mountains somewhere in the US. The one scene that sticks in my mind is when the posse is shooting at a log cabin with Bronson inside. Similar to the scene in The Gauntlet and after the shooting stops, some poor sod goes running up opens the cabin door, only to find Chuck laying in this hole in the ground with a shotgun, and Chuck says, "Welcome" and blows the guy's head off.
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: Adam S. on June 28, 2011, 11:46:16 AM
I think it was actually set in Canada, but other than that I totally agree. A really good film.
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: KC on June 28, 2011, 05:49:47 PM
I think it was actually set in Canada, but other than that I totally agree. A really good film.

The synopsis in the IMDb (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082247/) begins:

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Canada 1931: The unsociable trapper Johnson lives for himself in the ice-cold mountains near the Yukon river...

According to the "Locations" page, it was filmed in two Canadian locations and two New Mexico locations. One of the Canadian locations was "Drumheller, Alberta, Canada." Hmmm, do you think someone might have been inspired by that? ???
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: Christopher on June 28, 2011, 07:37:46 PM
I'm a fan of Bronson too. The Mechanic is one of my favorites of his. I like all the ones that have been mentioned here so far, plus quite a few others. Another notable mention is Someone Behind the Door costarring Anthony Perkins.

One movie of his I haven't watched yet but have wanted to is Rider on the Rain.
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: Adam S. on June 28, 2011, 10:24:10 PM
I'm a fan of Bronson too. The Mechanic is one of my favorites of his. I like all the ones that have been mentioned here so far, plus quite a few others. Another notable mention is Someone Behind the Door costarring Anthony Perkins.

Is that the one with Perkins as the psychiatrist or something? I recall bits and pieces of it but haven't seen it in some time.

What are the opinions of some of you on the films he made for Cannon in the '80s? I think that Messenger of Death was an interesting change of pace, albeit not an entirely successful one, while Assassination was mediocre. But The Evil that Men Do, 10 to Midnight, and Murphy's Law are all above average action thrillers in my book. I've never seen Kinjite and I hear that it goes out of it's way to sicken the viewer. Still, I'd like to check it out at some point.
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: Gant on June 29, 2011, 01:54:21 PM
Bronson was great in Hard Times.. I'd like to see some of the European stuff he did in the 60's...
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: Christopher on July 01, 2011, 03:59:28 PM
Is that the one with Perkins as the psychiatrist or something? I recall bits and pieces of it but haven't seen it in some time.

What are the opinions of some of you on the films he made for Cannon in the '80s? I think that Messenger of Death was an interesting change of pace, albeit not an entirely successful one, while Assassination was mediocre. But The Evil that Men Do, 10 to Midnight, and Murphy's Law are all above average action thrillers in my book. I've never seen Kinjite and I hear that it goes out of it's way to sicken the viewer. Still, I'd like to check it out at some point.
Yeah, Perkins is the psychiatrist. It's a great cast.

I've seen just a few of the '80s movies. I remember watching Murphy's Law either earlier this year or sometime last year (would have to check my movie journal!). And I do remember seeing 10 to Midnight. They're okay.

I like some of the westerns like Red Sun and Chino, too.
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: Elizabeth77 on July 02, 2011, 08:58:43 PM
Hard Times is one of my Bronson favorites.  I really like the way he communicates so much while saying so little, yet at the end he's still a stranger about whom you know almost nothing.
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: Jed Cooper on July 13, 2011, 03:27:12 PM
I watched Once Upon A Time In The West not too long ago and sad to say I didn't like it.  My expectations were definitely high because Sergio Leone directed it and it stars Charles Bronson and Henry Fonda.  The directing and acting was okay, but for me it just didn't deliver.  I enjoyed the beginning but didn't care much for the remainder of the film. 

(http://www.movieposter.com/posters/archive/main/10/b70-5159)

I haven't seen all of Bronson's films but would like to.  Has there been a "Top 10" list of Bronson films posted by anyone?  How about a rating for each of his movies?  I've done that with Eastwood and it was a lot of fun.  I'd like to see a Charles Bronson fan do the same here.

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Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: _Clintan_ on March 22, 2013, 03:29:01 AM
Was going to start a new thread about Bronson, but was able to find this existing one so I'll just bump it up.

I'm sad to see so few responces in the thread on an Eastwood forum. Hopefully this revival can bring some more posts in it.

I'm a huge Bronson fan. One of my all-time favorite actors, an extremely underrated one. People who claim he's a one-note actor obviously aren't that well-versed in Bronsonology. While his characters in the 70's and later in his career mostly consisted of The Strong, Silent Type roles, there were some great exceptions. Just watch 1975's Breakout if you want to see Charlie in a different role. His work on TV before breaking through in the movie industry showed he was very versatile.

His work in the western genre is pretty impressive. The Magnificent Seven, Once Upon a Time in the West (IMO the greatest western of all time), Red Sun, Chato's Land and the very different From Noon Till Three are some of the best work he did in the genre.

What makes Bronson so convincing in his tough guy roles is because unlinke Clint, who plays tough guys but underneath it is a gentle guy, Bronson was a tough guy. He played the Strong Silent Types so good because that's what he was in real life. He also had the physique to back it up. He had an amazing body which he kept well up in his 60's, and he never stopped working out. He was fit all his life, the guy could do a hundred push-ups at the age of 73! Working as a coal miner as a kid probably ignited his passion for staying in shape. Some photos:

(http://www.movieactors.com/freezeframes-77/ChatosLand46.jpeg)

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_DsDVIPoDzJw/S3RafGqyNdI/AAAAAAAAANc/2R-qzq0pBV8/s320/chato5.jpg)

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-9P7Nf_W52Z0/TtcTWFDRPVI/AAAAAAAAXF8/eHepmR90kLE/s1600/HARD+3.jpg)

(http://imgc.allpostersimages.com/images/P-473-488-90/56/5613/4HPVG00Z/posters/charles-bronson-breakout.jpg)

All of those pictures are from when he was over 50 years old! Pretty impressive considering he was a heavy smoker at that time (he eventually dropped the habit, thankfully).

He was immensely popular in Europe and Asia for most of his career after he made his breakthrough in some classic European films in the 60's. For a while he was the top grossing star in the world and the most bankable actor in the business. Sweden even had Bronson festivals playing in cinemas all over the country:

(http://www.seriesam.com/p2/charles_bronsonfestival_79.jpg)

At one point, there was a huge billboard in Japan with just Bronson's face on it. Not an ad for anyhing in particular, just his face on a huge billboard. Speaks volumes of how revered he was in Japan. He was so popular over there that he asked Sean Penn if some changes could be made to his character's fate in The Indian Runner because he feared it would not go over well with the Japanese crowd.

Some of my favorite movies of his, other than the ones already mentioned:

Hard Times
Death Hunt
Mr. Majestyk

Death Wish series (parts 3 & 4 were typical 80's action cheese fests not to be taken very seriously, entertaining as hell though!)
The Mechanic
Breakout


What are the opinions of some of you on the films he made for Cannon in the '80s? I think that Messenger of Death was an interesting change of pace, albeit not an entirely successful one, while Assassination was mediocre. But The Evil that Men Do, 10 to Midnight, and Murphy's Law are all above average action thrillers in my book. I've never seen Kinjite and I hear that it goes out of it's way to sicken the viewer. Still, I'd like to check it out at some point.

Just want to point out that while The Evil That Men Do was originally planned by Cannon Films, it ended up being produced by Tri-Star and ITC.
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: KC on March 22, 2013, 06:46:49 AM
Thanks, Clintan, good post!
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: TWOMULES on March 24, 2013, 06:09:34 AM
Great post, Clintan. O0

My brother-in-law is a huge Bronson fan. I do have a few of his films in my dvd collection including The Magnificent Seven and Once Upon a Time in the West. One of my favourite Bronson films is Death Hunt. It reminds me of First Blood set in snow in the Canadian wilderness. :D Great acting by Charles Bronson and Lee Marvin.  :)
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: The Schofield Kid on March 24, 2013, 02:22:41 PM
[/i] One of my favourite Bronson films is Death Hunt. It reminds me of First Blood set in snow in the Canadian wilderness. :D Great acting by Charles Bronson and Lee Marvin.  :)

Love that scene where he digs a hole in the cabin's dirt floor and lays down so all the bullets being fired at him miss and then when the door gets flung open, Bronson says, "Welcome" and blows the guy away.
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: _Clintan_ on March 24, 2013, 03:23:57 PM
Thanks guys, I can talk Bronson all day  ;)

Great recent news for Bronson fans is that The Great Escape is coming to Blu-ray in June, and so is Hard Times. UK fans can get their hands on an awesome looking Great Escape steelbook:

(http://www.avforums.com/forums/attachments/blu-ray-steelbooks/378712d1362050435-great-escape-blu-ray-steelbook-8184uczctfl._aa1500_.jpg)

(http://www.avforums.com/forums/attachments/blu-ray-steelbooks/378713d1362050440-great-escape-blu-ray-steelbook-81ju4vrogel._aa1500_.jpg)

(http://www.avforums.com/forums/attachments/blu-ray-steelbooks/378714d1362050445-great-escape-blu-ray-steelbook-91mzo0mlcnl._aa1500_.jpg)

Japan is releasing a digipak version with some cool goodies for those who love that stuff (ehm, me)

(http://ec2.images-amazon.com/images/I/51zot%2BVUGML._SL500_AA300_.jpg)

Hard Times will be released by Twilight Time, a company that limits their releases to 3 000 copies per title. It will probably be up for pre-order sometime in May, I suggest those who want a copy grab it ASAP, because if you wait and it goes OOP, when you finally decide to get it on eBay it will probably cost at least twice as much (60 dollars or more).
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: TWOMULES on March 25, 2013, 11:31:15 AM
Love that scene where he digs a hole in the cabin's dirt floor and lays down so all the bullets being fired at him miss and then when the door gets flung open, Bronson says, "Welcome" and blows the guy away.

Me too! It's a great scene in the movie. :)
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: _Clintan_ on March 25, 2013, 11:32:59 AM
Me too! It's a great scene in the movie. :)
How about the scene minutes later when he comes out, guns blazing? One of my favorite Bronson moments!
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: TWOMULES on March 25, 2013, 11:39:09 AM
How about the scene minutes later when he comes out, guns blazing? One of my favorite Bronson moments!

 O0
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: Rawhide7 on March 25, 2013, 12:47:59 PM
I'm also a fan of Bronson's as well!  Espicially of his Death Wish series!  Great actor!
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: _Clintan_ on July 10, 2013, 06:01:29 PM
Some Bronson news to brighten everyone's day!

There are about 900 copies left of Hard Times before it is OOP, I suggest you get your hands on your copy ASAP if you haven't already: http://www.screenarchives.com/title_detail.cfm/ID/25047/HARD-TIMES-1975/

(http://images3.static-bluray.com/movies/covers/65402_large.jpg)

The Blu-ray got a great review over at Blu-ray.com: http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Hard-Times-Blu-ray/65402/

The Great Escape, however, got a pretty average rating of 2.5 regarding the picture quality. It sure deserved better treatment, since it's one of the greatest movies ever made: http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/The-Great-Escape-Blu-ray/47102/

(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS2w2pgJmybbnKkucQf2XtubwBZjVnseN6U8itpA7OyatwlKY9SgQ)

A little known B-western from 1958, Showdown at Boot Hill, was recently released by Olive Films on DVD and Blu-ray, the latter got a great review: http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Showdown-at-Boot-Hill-Blu-ray/70814/

(http://www.filmsamling.se/temp1/ShowdownAtBootHillBluRay.jpg)

Those of you who are fans of Death Hunt and 1953's House of Wax (in 3D!) are in for a treat!

Shout Factory is releasing Death Hunt on August 20, with some cool special features: http://www.amazon.com/Death-Hunt-Blu-ray-Charles-Bronson/dp/B00CQ8U5ZE/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1373503360&sr=8-2&keywords=death+hunt

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQXieh4g8kfr1IZI6Z83wP6Whhyrc7CQ3NOBMVCnlY16sejohZd)

House of Wax, including original and 3D version is released in good time for Halloween on October 1st: http://www.amazon.com/House-Wax-Blu-ray-Roy-Roberts/dp/B00DQLQN3S/ref=sr_1_1?s=movies-tv&ie=UTF8&qid=1373503437&sr=1-1&keywords=house+of+wax

(http://images3.static-bluray.com/movies/covers/39520_medium.jpg)

Great time to be a Charles Bronson fan!  O0
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: Christopher on July 10, 2013, 06:14:30 PM
I've seen all of those except for Showdown at Boot Hill. I like all those others quite well.

Has anyone seen From Noon Till Three? I happened to notice a 2-film DVD with that and Assassination. I have Assassination on another Bronson pack somewhere, but I don't remember hearing anything about that first one before. I didn't buy it but probably should have since it was probably only $5 or $6, so that could be worth it for the one movie I haven't seen there.
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: _Clintan_ on July 10, 2013, 06:18:45 PM
From Noon Till Three is a great movie, very different from other Bronson movies, same goes for his performance. Definitely worth a purchase. Available on Blu-ray from Germany: http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B0063NT8S8/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3JWKAKR8XB7XF

I was under the impression that From Noon Till Three had only been released in Japan on DVD, never anywhere else. I've seen a standalone DVD on Amazon.com though, but it didn't seem very official and was only sold through sellers on the marketplace.
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: Christopher on July 10, 2013, 06:22:55 PM
This is a region 1 DVD. Here's the Amazon page for it: http://www.amazon.com/Three-Assassination-Charles-Bronson-Ireland/dp/B0095XJ7OI/ref=sr_1_1?s=movies-tv&ie=UTF8&qid=1373505727&sr=1-1&keywords=from+noon+till+three
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: _Clintan_ on July 10, 2013, 06:24:07 PM
Interesting, released less than a year ago. Go for it, definitely worth owning it!
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: Christopher on July 10, 2013, 06:28:28 PM
I found a DVD from the same company (and has the same basic cover design) with 10 to Midnight and Kinjite, and that one I did pick up a little while back.
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: antonis on July 15, 2013, 09:16:27 AM
Just saw the thread.

My second favorite actor.
Seen all his movies (mid 60's onwards).
Death hunt is my favorite Bronson film.Had seen it in a theater when released.

There is a book about the making of the DW series,which I bought a couple of years back.
Sadly no biography though.
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: Jed Cooper on July 17, 2013, 02:03:43 PM
Just saw the thread.

My second favorite actor.
Seen all his movies (mid 60's onwards).
Death hunt is my favorite Bronson film.Had seen it in a theater when released.

There is a book about the making of the DW series,which I bought a couple of years back.
Sadly no biography though.

I'd love to read a biography on Charles Bronson!  Man, that would be so interesting!  What's the name of the book about the Death Wish series?  Can you provide the author and an image?
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: Christopher on July 17, 2013, 02:40:16 PM
Yeah, I would be interested in a book about the making of the Death Wish movies too.

Speaking of Death Wish, I'm surprised the sequels don't seem to be available on DVD in widescreen format. I have the first in widescreen on DVD, but wouldn't mind having the whole set.
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: Jed Cooper on July 17, 2013, 03:01:47 PM
Yeah, I would be interested in a book about the making of the Death Wish movies too.

Speaking of Death Wish, I'm surprised the sequels don't seem to be available on DVD in widescreen format. I have the first in widescreen on DVD, but wouldn't mind having the whole set.


Yeah, the Death Wish series should get a decent reissue treatment; widescreen on dvd & Blu-ray with trailers and bonus material. 
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: Christopher on July 17, 2013, 03:21:49 PM
I was doing some searches for Brian Garfield's original novel Death Wish and came across the book about the making of the movies. It's called Bronson's Loose! The Making of the Death Wish Films

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http://www.amazon.com/Bronsons-Loose-Making-Death-Films/dp/0595379826/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1374099367&sr=1-1&keywords=bronson%27s+loose
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: Jed Cooper on July 18, 2013, 05:41:00 AM
Very cool.  I found a few titles for Bronson fans.  I'd be interested in reading the first 2. 

Menacing Face Worth Millions: A Life Of Charles Bronson by Brian D'Ambrosio (2012)  Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Menacing-Face-Worth-Millions-ebook/dp/B007SJBIB6/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1374150942&sr=1-1&keywords=Menacing+Face+Worth+Millions%3A+A+Life+of+Charles+Bronson)  You may find this interesting:  Brian D’Ambrosio | Menacing Face Worth Millions: A Life of Charles Bronson (http://livelytimes.com/montana-music-entertainment/entry/brian-dambrosio-menacing-face-worth-millions-a-life-of-charles-bronson/)

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The 95 Films and 156 Television Appearances by Michael R. Pitts (2004)  Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Charles-Bronson-Films-Television-Appearances/dp/0786417021/ref=sr_1_11?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1374149979&sr=1-11&keywords=charles+bronson)

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51PJDZW52QL.jpg)

Charlie & Me by Harriet Bronson (2010)  Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Charlie-and-Me-ebook/dp/B004EPYUNU/ref=sr_1_8?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1374150509&sr=1-8&keywords=charles+bronson#_)

(http://billcainonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Book3.jpg)




Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: antonis on July 18, 2013, 06:53:18 AM
I'd love to read a biography on Charles Bronson!  Man, that would be so interesting!  What's the name of the book about the Death Wish series?  Can you provide the author and an image?

Sorry Jed.Just saw your message.
Christopher has got it right.
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: Jed Cooper on July 18, 2013, 07:27:47 AM
Sorry Jed.Just saw your message.
Christopher has got it right.

No worries, Antonis.  Are you going to check out Menacing Face Worth Millions?  I'm going to see if I can get it through one of my library networks.  That and the Death Wish book. 
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: antonis on July 18, 2013, 10:50:30 AM
Are you going to check out Menacing Face Worth Millions?  I'm going to see if I can get it through one of my library networks.  That and the Death Wish book.

I guess so.Next month though,cause I'm preparing for summer vacations :)
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: _Clintan_ on July 18, 2013, 11:23:14 AM
Menacing Face Worth Millions is a great book, the most recent and complete book on Bronson I've ever read. It contains a lot of key stuff already covered in other books, so you get a little bit of everything. Definitely worth a read for all Bronson fans. It's a print-on-demand book only, so I'm not sure if your library can get a copy. It's well worth the money to buy it yourself, though.

I also recommend Bronson's Loose: The Making of the Death Wish Films. It's a bit short, but I guess there weren't that many the author could get in touch with to interview. Interesting read nonetheless.

I believe the recently released Death Wish 2-5 are available in widescreen on Blu-ray, part 2 is the cut version though, so stay away from that one.
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: Jed Cooper on July 18, 2013, 12:09:13 PM
Enjoy your vacation, Antonis! 

Thanks for that information, Clintan.  I'll just do a search on Charles Bronson and see what comes up.  I'm connected to a large network based in Boston and a smaller one my local library is connected to so I'm sure there's at least a few to choose from.  If neither has the Menacing book then it's too bad.  I'll consider buying but I very rarely purchase books anymore, something I love libraries for.  You can take them out to read and then return them without adding clutter to your home.  I have a few books, but not many.  If it's not too pricey I'll get the Menaching biorgraphy, read it and then give it to a friend as a gift because he's more of a fan than I am.

There aren't very many Bronson movies on tv these days and that's too bad.  He's had his share of very good ones that should be on more than they are now.
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: _Clintan_ on July 22, 2013, 04:34:37 AM
I see. I'm the other way around, I like owning the thing and don't mind it taking up space in one of my shelves.
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: The Man With No Aim on July 26, 2013, 01:29:57 AM
Back in the day, I saw Death Wish first and then Once Upon A Time....before I ever saw any of the C E westerns. In fact, I may have seen Dirty Harry before seeing any of the C E westerns. In all the excitement I have lost count myself.

OUATITW was a truly amazing experience. The first time I ever saw it, it was the original uncut version. Cannot praise it enough.

Probably have to rank it as the best western I have ever seen, and I have seen practically all of those that I have ever heard of as being ranked by somebody as the "best western". And a big part of my appreciation of it is the remarkably capable acting performance by Charles Bronson as Harmonica.

Anyone who appreciates the western genre and has never yet viewed OUATITW needs to run dont walk to see it. You will come away amazed. 

If somehow you have never yet viewed OUATITW or GBU, I strongly advise you to FIRST watch OUATITW and SECOND watch GBU. Dont ask why, just do it my way. Afterward, you will know what I mean. 
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: Jed Cooper on July 26, 2013, 05:15:53 AM
Thanks, Man (With No Aim  ;))

Maybe I should've seen Bronson's western first because I when finally had the opportunity within the past year or so to see it, I came away disappointed.  I don't know that it would've mattered had I seen it before the Eastwood/Leone trilogy.  Maybe I would've liked it a bit more, it's hard to tell.  When you're younger your outlook and expectations are far different.  Well, I can only speak for myself.  Bronson is one of my favorites, though.  I've seen plenty of his films that I enjoy and would like to view again.  Funny how Bronson was one of the actors first offered the role in A Fistful Of Dollars and Eastwood turned down the offer to appear in Once Upon A Time In The West.  That's a pity because it would've been great to see him in it, especially with Bronson.  Maybe over winter I'll give Bronson's western another chance.  I very much like The White Buffalo and Death Hunt.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f4/WhiteBuffalo1977.jpg)(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/67/DeathHunt1981.jpg)
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: The Man With No Aim on July 26, 2013, 11:41:32 PM
Jesus tells us...When somebody hits you on one side of your face, turn your face and allow them to hit you again, That is Lord Gods righteousness. But our human reaction is, "As quick as I can, I'm going to take that bastards head off". 

OUATITW kind of maximized the expression of "When I can, I'm going to take that bastards head off".

So, in terms of a film confronting a viewer with the viewer's grappling with his primal instinsts versus an attempt to try to be righteous in respect of a higher calling in a spiritual or religeous sense, OUATITW hit a 800 foot home run (US nomenclature, for non-baseball aware folk).
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: antonis on November 25, 2013, 01:32:13 PM
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John Landis on Chato’s Land

http://trailersfromhell.com/chatos-land/
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: Hemlock on November 26, 2013, 08:20:52 AM
I´m also a huge Brosnon fan but what I´ve always disliked in his films that there is way too many times his wife,Jill Ireland in them.Now she was truly appaling actress.Especially disliked her in Love and Bullets which could`ve been awesome Bronson thriller without her.

Anyways if we`re talking about his"solo"films and therefore not mention great films like forexample Dirty Dozen,Magnificent Seven,The Great Escape or Once Upon A Time In The West I´d say that these are my favourites from him ( not in any particular order):

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/fi/thumb/4/41/Mr_Majestyk_movie_poster.jpg/250px-Mr_Majestyk_movie_poster.jpg)(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/fi/f/f0/Death_wish_movie_poster.jpg)(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/fi/thumb/7/76/Hard_times.jpg/250px-Hard_times.jpg)(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/d4/Chatos_land_Poster.jpg/220px-Chatos_land_Poster.jpg)(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/e5/The_Mechanic_%281972_movie_poster%29.jpg/220px-The_Mechanic_%281972_movie_poster%29.jpg)

Also would like to mention St.Ives,Breakheart Pass,Telefon,Borderline and Death Hunt.
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: Jed Cooper on November 26, 2013, 08:22:50 AM
Definitely some great films there, Hemlock.  Bronson truly was one of a kind.
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: antonis on February 03, 2014, 10:11:54 AM
quite interesting article...

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CINEMA RETRO SPECIAL REPORT: PAUL TALBOT ON THE MAKING OF CHARLES BRONSON'S "THE EVIL THAT MEN DO"

(http://www.cinemaretro.com/uploads/evilposter.jpg)

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By Paul Talbot

The poster screamed: “Most criminals answer to the law. The world’s most savage executioner must answer to Bronson.” Since the late 1960s, Charles Bronson’s name on a marquee was a guarantee of unchained action. When The Evil That Men Do opened in 1984, fans were hit with the expected violence─but this time they were also assaulted with thick layers of sadism, sleaze and depravity. And they loved it.

http://www.cinemaretro.com/index.php
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: Jed Cooper on February 06, 2014, 02:40:40 PM
quite interesting article...

(http://www.cinemaretro.com/uploads/evilposter.jpg)

http://www.cinemaretro.com/index.php

Very cool!  Thanks for sharing.  Sad to say I've never seen The Evil That Men Do.  I'll have to be on the lookout for that one.
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: Hemlock on February 14, 2014, 04:18:11 AM
I´d say that The Evil That Men Do is one of my least favourite Bronson film...actually I don`t like it at all.I don`t mind (some)violent and action but this is way too graphic with violent and sadistic to my likeing.I would not recommend this one to anybody.
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: The Man With No Aim on February 14, 2014, 05:23:25 AM
I´d say that The Evil That Men Do is one of my least favourite Bronson film...actually I don`t like it at all.I don`t mind (some)violent and action but this is way too graphic with violent and sadistic to my likeing.I would not recommend this one to anybody.

Saaay, sadistic violence in the name of righteous vengence .....Sounds like my kind o' movie. Thx for the alert.

I became a big Bronson fan after the first Bronson movie I ever saw. Probly was Death Wish. I were a architeck at the time and so he resonated with me. And I recall vividly thinking that Jill Ireland was real cute. And I didnt care if she could act good or not.  But in all the excitement I have forgot exactly. He was magnifico in Once Upon A Time In The West.
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: osramau2 on February 15, 2014, 05:05:26 AM
Charles Bronson is my second fave actor after Clint, Red Sun is an excellent movie, Mr Majestyk is right up there, but Chatos land is one of his best in my opinion, why does he need to say anything? aren't actions louder than words? anyway that's just my opinion, I have always loved the vulture in the poster, The Japanese B2 is cool

(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/1024x768q90/801/pv0x.jpg)
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: Christopher on February 15, 2014, 05:08:11 PM
I haven't seen The Evil that Men Do, but I'd check it out. I'll watch about anything that Bronson did. A few weeks ago I saw The Stone Killer, which I thought was okay.
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: Christopher on March 14, 2014, 10:42:23 AM
During this past week, I've watched Kinjite: Forbidden Subjects and 10 to Midnight. I've seen 10 to Midnight before but not Kinjite. Both movies are on the same DVD that I've had for a while but just now got around to watching. I can see why these two movies were paired together since Kinjite is about a prostitution ring and 10 to Midnight is about a killer who targets women. I liked both a lot.
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: Hemlock on March 16, 2014, 08:00:59 AM
On his"later"films I vaguely remember that I liked Murphy`s Law.He also did fine job in Sean Penn`s Indian Runner.A bit different film from Bronson I´d say.

Anyways about week ago I had a bit of "Bronson festival" and watched Dead Hunt,Mr Majestyk and The Mechanic.As said all good films.
I started to feel urge to watch them after reading this particular thread  ;)
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: Jed Cooper on March 16, 2014, 08:31:10 AM
During this past week, I've watched Kinjite: Forbidden Subjects and 10 to Midnight. I've seen 10 to Midnight before but not Kinjite. Both movies are on the same DVD that I've had for a while but just now got around to watching. I can see why these two movies were paired together since Kinjite is about a prostitution ring and 10 to Midnight is about a killer who targets women. I liked both a lot.

I've seen Kinjite and 10 To Midnight but it was years ago.  Hell, decades!  I didn't care for them much at the time but since then my admiration for Charles Bronson films has grown so I'd like to see them again to see if I form a different opinion.
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: Jed Cooper on March 16, 2014, 08:31:51 AM
On his"later"films I vaguely remember that I liked Murphy`s Law.He also did fine job in Sean Penn`s Indian Runner.A bit different film from Bronson I´d say.

Anyways about week ago I had a bit of "Bronson festival" and watched Dead Hunt,Mr Majestyk and The Mechanic.As said all good films.
I started to feel urge to watch them after reading this particular thread  ;)

Wow, I've heard of Indian Runner but never knew Charles Bronson appeared in it!  I'll have to check it out!
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: Jed Cooper on March 16, 2014, 08:32:46 AM
I wonder if there's a comprehensive Bronson dvd set out there, similar to what's been done for Eastwood.  If not, there damn well should be!
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: Christopher on March 16, 2014, 04:00:03 PM
The book Bronson's Loose has been mentioned in this thread earlier, and I just checked to see about the price for it, and I really don't want to pay much for it so I checked to see what else has been written about him, specifically biographies. I ordered one from 1983 by David Downing from the library (I couldn't find Bronson's Loose from the same search). There aren't many books written about his life, but the few reviews of this one on Amazon make it sound like it could be interesting, even though it was written 20 years before his death!
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: Jed Cooper on March 17, 2014, 06:56:32 AM
The 40th Anniversary Edition of Death Wish was released on Blu ray earlier this year:  Amazon/Death Wish (http://www.amazon.com/Death-Wish-40th-Anniversary-Blu-ray/dp/B00G575PD4/ref=sr_1_2?s=movies-tv&ie=UTF8&qid=1395063256&sr=1-2&keywords=charles+bronson)

(http://screenconnections.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/death-wish-40th-anniversary-blu-ray-cover.jpg?w=356&h=458)

Apparently, the rest of the series is also available on Blu ray.  Although, I'm not 100% sure these are American covers or if they're even available on Blu ray in the U.S.

(http://s0.discshop.fi/img/front_large/93260/death_wish_2_blu_ray_dvd.jpg)  (http://s2.discshop.fi/img/front_large/93262/death_wish_3_blu_ray_dvd.jpg)

(http://s1.discshop.fi/img/front_large/93241/death_wish_4_blu_ray_dvd.jpg)  (http://s0.discshop.fi/img/front_large/94055/death_wish_5_blu_ray_dvd.jpg)

Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: Christopher on March 18, 2014, 06:06:40 AM
I did an Amazon search and did find some different covers for 2, 3, and 4.

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51u1aq3QWKL.jpg)(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41rf9QSHUVL.jpg)
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41Nyg9OZO6L.jpg)

I didn't remember that Lawrence Fishburne was in Death Wish 2. I'm pretty sure I've seen all of the movies at some point, but I remember part 3 the least. Part 4 might have been the first one I ever saw. As a kid my family borrowed some videos from some relatives, one of which was that one.
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: Jed Cooper on March 18, 2014, 07:51:18 AM
I did an Amazon search and did find some different covers for 2, 3, and 4.

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51u1aq3QWKL.jpg)(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41rf9QSHUVL.jpg)
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41Nyg9OZO6L.jpg)

I didn't remember that Lawrence Fishburne was in Death Wish 2. I'm pretty sure I've seen all of the movies at some point, but I remember part 3 the least. Part 4 might have been the first one I ever saw. As a kid my family borrowed some videos from some relatives, one of which was that one.

These covers are an improvement over the ones I found.  I believe Jeff Goldblum was also in Death Wish 2.
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: Hemlock on March 18, 2014, 08:38:45 AM
I believe Jeff Goldblum was also in Death Wish 2.

Jeff Goldblum was actually in first Death Wish  ;)

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_ZVkb0M61jmc/TNnyApSsjcI/AAAAAAAABY8/C7M6Wgw_8HI/s400/jeff+goldblum.jpg)
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: Jed Cooper on March 18, 2014, 08:41:56 AM
Jeff Goldblum was actually in first Death Wish  ;)

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_ZVkb0M61jmc/TNnyApSsjcI/AAAAAAAABY8/C7M6Wgw_8HI/s400/jeff+goldblum.jpg)

I stand corrected.  I did know that, just mis-typed  :D
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: Christopher on March 18, 2014, 09:31:55 AM
I've seen Kinjite and 10 To Midnight but it was years ago.  Hell, decades!  I didn't care for them much at the time but since then my admiration for Charles Bronson films has grown so I'd like to see them again to see if I form a different opinion.
I noticed earlier in this thread I said that I'd seen 10 to Midnight and referred to it as being okay, and now after this most recent viewing I said I liked it a lot. So it does sound like it's grown on me.
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: Jed Cooper on March 18, 2014, 10:10:34 AM
I noticed earlier in this thread I said that I'd seen 10 to Midnight and referred to it as being okay, and now after this most recent viewing I said I liked it a lot. So it does sound like it's grown on me.

Good to know, thanks.  O0
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: Hemlock on March 22, 2014, 09:50:08 PM
Just watched this

(https://eu.movieposter.com/posters/archive/main/77/MPW-38851)

Quite good...and there`s Jeff Goldblum as a thug in this one too  ;)
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: Hemlock on March 24, 2014, 08:32:10 PM
...and now I watched these

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/0d/Ten_to_midnight.jpg/220px-Ten_to_midnight.jpg)(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/7f/Red_sun_movieposter.jpg/220px-Red_sun_movieposter.jpg)

First one being (like I remembered) crap and latter being entertaining if not great.
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: Jed Cooper on March 25, 2014, 08:38:00 AM
Just watched this

(https://eu.movieposter.com/posters/archive/main/77/MPW-38851)

Quite good...and there`s Jeff Goldblum as a thug in this one too  ;)

I've heard of this one but haven't seen it yet.  Looks good.
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: Jed Cooper on March 25, 2014, 08:38:59 AM
...and now I watched these

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/0d/Ten_to_midnight.jpg/220px-Ten_to_midnight.jpg)(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/7f/Red_sun_movieposter.jpg/220px-Red_sun_movieposter.jpg)

First one being (like I remembered) crap and latter being entertaining if not great.

Yeah, that's how I remember 10 To Midnight but haven't seen Red Sun yet.
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: Christopher on March 28, 2014, 09:37:50 AM
I'm pretty sure I've seen all of the movies at some point, but I remember part 3 the least.
I don't believe I had seen part 3 before. I didn't remember anything about it. I watched all 5 movies within the past week, and do enjoy all of them. I'd place 3, 4, and 5 a little lower than part 2. The first one is excellent.

I was surprised to see that Jimmy Page from Led Zeppelin did the musical score for parts 2 and 3. I liked the music in part 2 especially.
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: Gant on April 08, 2014, 11:33:56 PM
Hard Times is easily my favourite Charles Bronson starring film....
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: Jed Cooper on April 09, 2014, 05:59:00 AM
Hard Times is easily my favourite Charles Bronson starring film....

Another Bronson film I've yet to see.  I think I attempted it years ago when it aired on tv once but gave up.  I guess I was just too much an Eastwood fan.  I'd like to check it out now, though.

Gant, what are the similarities/differences between this and Eastwood's 'Which Way' films?
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: Hemlock on April 09, 2014, 06:45:53 PM
Gant, what are the similarities/differences between this and Eastwood's 'Which Way' films?

Even though I´m not Gant, I´d say that the biggest differences are that Hard Times is a drama and Which Way films are comedies...and the only similarity is bare knuckle fighting  ;)
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: Gant on April 10, 2014, 02:47:29 AM
I gotta be honest... I'm not really a Bronson fan.. I re watched Death Wish a while back and thought it quite terrible...
However he's perfectly cast in Hard Times... I like the period detail and the fight scenes are extremely well done.. Charlie does convince...
As Hemlock said.... Hard Times is a tough little drama whereas The Every  Which films are knockabout farce.....

Sometime ago there was a celebrity/charity deathmatch type deal on facebook where various tough guy actors were pitched against each other to find the ultimate champ.... Bronson got blown away in the later stages... The winner

William Smith.... :)
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: Christopher on April 10, 2014, 07:56:25 AM
I recently finished Bronson's Loose after having read the original Death Wish novel by Brian Garfield and watching all the movies. Bronson's Loose is a very interesting short book about the making of all five Death Wish movies. Bronson didn't seem to care much for most of the sequels, and Brian Garfield hated all of the movies. Garfield and Michael Winner (the director of the first three movies) were both quite outspoken on the topic. Garfield felt the films glorified the vigilante and the violence, and Winner referred to Garfield as a "bloody idiot" because Garfield seemed surprised the films were violent ("What did he think he'd written, Snow White?" Winner said--that's close to the exact quote from the book).

I also found it interesting Winner spoke about how Bronson didn't want to end the movie the way they did, with the iconic pistol shooting hand gesture. Bronson feared it would make it look as if his character enjoyed killing. One of the things I've always really liked about the first Death Wish is that you watch Kersey's character become unhinged. After he uses the sock full of quarters to get out of a mugging, he comes back to his place and slings the sock all around, striking a plant at one point in time, I believe. He looks like a real madman in that scene. And then after he shoots his first mugger, he comes back and throws up. It's really a disturbing movie.
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: _Clintan_ on April 13, 2014, 11:47:13 AM
Darn it, seems like I've missed a lot of Bronson chat! I subscribe to this thread, yet I haven't gotten any notification. What's up with that?

I haven't seen The Evil that Men Do, but I'd check it out. I'll watch about anything that Bronson did. A few weeks ago I saw The Stone Killer, which I thought was okay.

Bronson's own Dirty Harry! One of my favorite Bronson movies of the 70's!

I´d say that The Evil That Men Do is one of my least favourite Bronson film...actually I don`t like it at all.I don`t mind (some)violent and action but this is way too graphic with violent and sadistic to my likeing.I would not recommend this one to anybody.

I was quite surprised when I watched this because it wasn't nearly as graphic or violent as I had read about - and I watched the uncut Australian DVD which has the most footage. I love it, one of the best from the 80's!

During this past week, I've watched Kinjite: Forbidden Subjects and 10 to Midnight. I've seen 10 to Midnight before but not Kinjite. Both movies are on the same DVD that I've had for a while but just now got around to watching. I can see why these two movies were paired together since Kinjite is about a prostitution ring and 10 to Midnight is about a killer who targets women. I liked both a lot.

Kinjite seems to be disliked by a lot of Bronson fans, I feel it is very underrated. I much more enjoy that one over Messenger of Death and Assassination.

Apparently, the rest of the series is also available on Blu ray.  Although, I'm not 100% sure these are American covers or if they're even available on Blu ray in the U.S.

(http://s0.discshop.fi/img/front_large/93260/death_wish_2_blu_ray_dvd.jpg)  (http://s2.discshop.fi/img/front_large/93262/death_wish_3_blu_ray_dvd.jpg)

(http://s1.discshop.fi/img/front_large/93241/death_wish_4_blu_ray_dvd.jpg)  (http://s0.discshop.fi/img/front_large/94055/death_wish_5_blu_ray_dvd.jpg)

These are the Scandinavian releases of the movies, I think they are all 1080i, not 1080p and I think I remember someone writing the picture quality being slightly poorer compared to the US releases. Of course, Death Wish V is only available in Scandinavia at the moment, so you may have to bite the bullet on that one. Please be advised that Death Wish II is cut on all releases. I'd stay away from that one until they come out with an uncut one. I have the Australian box set and the extremely rare Greek workprint VHS so I can watch it in its longer versions anyway.

I also found it interesting Winner spoke about how Bronson didn't want to end the movie the way they did, with the iconic pistol shooting hand gesture. Bronson feared it would make it look as if his character enjoyed killing. One of the things I've always really liked about the first Death Wish is that you watch Kersey's character become unhinged. After he uses the sock full of quarters to get out of a mugging, he comes back to his place and slings the sock all around, striking a plant at one point in time, I believe. He looks like a real madman in that scene. And then after he shoots his first mugger, he comes back and throws up. It's really a disturbing movie.

I always just viewed that as a "You better watch it, there's a new vigilante in town", not like he's eager to kill him just for the satisfaction.

Now a heads up for all Bronson fans - Violent City will be released on Blu-ray in Germany in June with hopefully some new extras:

(http://i61.tinypic.com/33o070w.jpg)

http://www.amazon.de/Brutale-Stadt-Blu-ray-Charles-Bronson/dp/B00HNHM3O4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1397413627&sr=8-1&

Really looking forward to that one!
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: KC on April 13, 2014, 06:16:47 PM
Darn it, seems like I've missed a lot of Bronson chat! I subscribe to this thread, yet I haven't gotten any notification. What's up with that?

I don't know ... Everyone is subscribed to (receives notification for) all threads they've posted in by default. Anyway, it's good to hear from you again, _Clintan_!  :)
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: Christopher on April 13, 2014, 06:25:11 PM
I was quite surprised when I watched this because it wasn't nearly as graphic or violent as I had read about - and I watched the uncut Australian DVD which has the most footage. I love it, one of the best from the 80's!

Kinjite seems to be disliked by a lot of Bronson fans, I feel it is very underrated. I much more enjoy that one over Messenger of Death and Assassination.
I agree with both of these statements. I don't know if The Evil That Men Do was uncut or not--I bought a VHS of it that was done in 2000 or 2001. I liked it a lot. There are some cringe-worthy scenes involving violence towards men's... uh, private region. It certainly ain't comfortable to watch, but I didn't feel as if it was too much.

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Please be advised that Death Wish II is cut on all releases.
I mentioned about buying the four movie set that has Death Wish 2-4 on it, and you can tell very obviously that Death Wish II was a cut version.

I watched St. Ives the other evening and liked it too. It was fun to not only see Jeff Goldblum play another hood in a movie with Bronson, but there was also Robert Englund.

(http://www.imfdb.org/images/thumb/b/b8/RE-s%2Bw.jpg/600px-RE-s%2Bw.jpg)
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: Hemlock on April 17, 2014, 10:05:30 AM
Gave it another chance to The Evil That Men Do and it was not as disturbing with it`s violence as I remembered it to be (maybe I´ve toughned or something) but it was still bad film.In every possible way.
Hard to believe that the same director of St.Ives,Guns Of Navarone and original Cape Fear made films like The Evil That Men Do and 10 to Midnight  :-[
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: _Clintan_ on April 18, 2014, 08:07:45 AM
I made the best purchase I've made in recent memory some weeks ago, when I found a copy of Donato and Daughter, a TV-movie Bronson did in 1993. It has only been released on DVD with an English audio track in Holland - and that was 14 years ago, so it's extremely rare. I'd been looking for one for several years, managed to get it sealed, too. I felt like a kid at Christmas.

The movie itself is pretty good, by TV-movie standards. Surprisingly violent, too.
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: Hemlock on April 20, 2014, 11:36:45 PM
This one intrest me:

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f4/WhiteBuffalo1977.jpg/220px-WhiteBuffalo1977.jpg)

Never have seen it so I´m intrested in to hear what you guys think of it ???

Also From Noon till Three intrest me a bit but it has that horrible wife of his  ;)
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: _Clintan_ on April 21, 2014, 03:47:22 AM
I love The White Buffalo. It has its fair share of critics, but I think it's one of his most entertaining movies from that period of his career (he struggled with choosing the right scripts at the end of the 70's & early 80's). The practical effects are cool and pretty well made IMO, but others used to today's CGI effects would probably say otherwise. The atmosphere throughout the whole movie is eerie and the score by none other than John Barry is terrific. There is even some good old shootouts in it. If you like Man Vs. Wild movies, you'll like it even more

From Noon Till Three is a must for Bronson fans! If you're looking for a different Bronson movie, this is the one that has to be seen. I also think it's Jill Ireland's best performance and believe it or not, she even has more screentime than Bronson! I didn't think that ruined the movie at all, then again I've never really been too bothered with her on his movies. Something a lot of people don't know is that she has a beautiful voice, which she got to show by recording a song for the movie, which played during the end credits.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gTIu7CCRbc

The song received a Golden Globe nomination.
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: antonis on April 22, 2014, 10:06:24 AM
I made the best purchase I've made in recent memory some weeks ago, when I found a copy of Donato and Daughter, a TV-movie Bronson did in 1993. It has only been released on DVD with an English audio track in Holland - and that was 14 years ago, so it's extremely rare. I'd been looking for one for several years, managed to get it sealed, too. I felt like a kid at Christmas.

The movie itself is pretty good, by TV-movie standards. Surprisingly violent, too.

A great buy indeed. I've seen this movie several times during the 90's but never again since. Kind of disappeared. A good film by all standards.
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: Rawhide7 on April 22, 2014, 08:37:50 PM
Just finished watching Death Wish 2.  Really enjoy watching the Death Wish series.  Charles Bronson is a fabulous actor.
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: antonis on April 23, 2014, 09:25:00 AM
Saw again the rarest of them all " yes Virginia there is a Santa Claus".
 Perhaps the most out of character Bronson role , along with the Indian runner. A film shot not long after his wife (Jill Ireland ) passed away & Bronson portrays an emotionally broken widower.
A well made by all means tv-movie.
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: _Clintan_ on April 23, 2014, 10:25:18 AM
Saw again the rarest of them all " yes Virginia there is a Santa Claus".
 Perhaps the most out of character Bronson role , along with the Indian runner. A film shot not long after his wife (Jill Ireland ) passed away & Bronson portrays an emotionally broken widower.
A well made by all means tv-movie.

Do you mean rare performance-wise? If so, I tend to agree. It's a cute little Christmas movie, I make it my mission to watch it every holiday season.
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: antonis on April 23, 2014, 10:45:33 AM
Do you mean rare performance-wise? If so, I tend to agree.

Exactly...
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: _Clintan_ on April 23, 2014, 11:14:48 AM
This is something I wrote on another forum regarding Bronson's 7 year stint with The Cannon Group between the years 1982-1989:

Not a popular opinion among Bronson fans, but I actually like the Cannon years. It's probably because I love 80's action movies, 80's scores, 80's cheese and of course, Charles Bronson. Nevertheless, I think a lot of his Cannon movies offers good entertainment, and not in a so-bad-it's-good way.

Love these:

Death Wish II-IV
10 to Midnight
Murphy's Law


Good, but don't measure up to the previously mentioned:

Messenger of Death
Kinjite: Forbidden Subjects


Pretty bad:

Assassination

People claim Cannon ruined his career and some even say they ruined his legacy, I think that is pure bull$#!t. Shortly before joining Cannon he made Caboblanco and Borderline, two movies that flopped, are seen as some of his worst movies and even pissed off fans, who wondered if Bronson even cared about the movies he made at that point. Had he given up? He listened to the fans and followed up those turkeys with Death Hunt before joining forces with Cannon on Death Wish II. The rest, as they say, is history. If anything, I think Cannon may have prolonged his career as a box office star. He may have been forced to do TV-movies a little earlier than in the early 90's if he had added more flops to his name in the early 80's. A lot of kids of the video era were introduced to Bronson through his Cannon movies, so he got a whole new audience.

A lot of people like to say that he was only in it for the paycheck in the 80's. While that may be true, he was always in it for the paycheck, which he was quite frank about, as were others around him. Yes, he liked to work with better scripts in the 70's, but at that point in his career he was the biggest star in the world and had offers thrown his way, with great scripts to choose from. After a few bombs and disappointments, less of those probably came his way in the 80's. So he did exactly what he had done previously, work for the paycheck, only this time in movies with lesser scripts that used the established, stereotypical Bronson persona. This benefitted both Bronson and the fans. Bronson got a nice paycheck (reportedly 3 million dollars) for each movie and fans got the Bronson they loved to see on the big screen, only these movies may not have aged that well compared to his 70's work. Honestly, after Love and Bullets, Cabo Blanco and Borderline, I don't think fans at that time were too upset with Bronson making movies like 10 to Midnight, the Death Wish sequels and Murphy's Law.

Are the best ones he did for Cannon capable of competing with the best ones he did in the 60's and 70's? In my opinion, no. It would be hard for anything he did in the 80's to top some of the great stuff he did back then, considering he wasn't getting the same offers anymore.

So, in short, I enjoy most of his Cannon movies and revisit them quite often. I don't view them as a dark period in Charlie's career, nor do I view them as a highlight. They are what they are, I'm thankful for them and am proud to have them in my collection.
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: Christopher on April 24, 2014, 06:54:23 AM
Good post, Clintan. I agree with that. The movies from that era are fun, and some are really good.
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: Hemlock on April 25, 2014, 05:13:18 AM
Well I still think 10 To Midnight stinks and at times in Bronson`s Cannon movies it looks like he`s just doing same character over and over again (well in Deat Wish films-series he did  ;) )...and yet those films are quite entertaining.

I´d love to see Murphy`s Law again.Vaguely remember that to be good and funny too.
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: _Clintan_ on April 25, 2014, 05:25:59 AM
Well, I don't think his dildo-inserting, racist character in Kinjite: Forbidden Subjects is a lot like the reporter he plays in Messenger of Death, or the depressed, drunken cop on the run in Murphy's Law. If you only scratch the surface, it could appear to be so, but the same goes for a lot of Clint Eastwood characters/performances.

And yes, 10 to Midnight stinks, of delightful 80's cheese ;) God I love the soundtrack to that movie, I listen to it quite often.
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: Hemlock on April 25, 2014, 05:45:30 AM
Well, I don't think his dildo-inserting, racist character in Kinjite: Forbidden Subjects is a lot like the reporter he plays in Messenger of Death, or the depressed, drunken cop on the run in Murphy's Law. If you only scratch the surface, it could appear to be so, but the same goes for a lot of Clint Eastwood characters/performances.

Good point(with Eastwood vs Bronson) and it`s been awhile since I saw those three films.

Always though he could act and he should`ve shown the range more often...I guess that`s my point.He had loads of charisma and that carried many films.Only because of him 10 To Midnight is barely watchable.Film`s many flaws lies elsewhere .
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: _Clintan_ on April 25, 2014, 06:10:29 AM
After the success of Death Wish, he got away with showing more range just once, in Breakout. But that movie was a well made action adventure ride and it was his first movie to be released after Death Wish, so it had all the makings of a box office success. Later on when he tried to do different things and show range in movies like St. Ives and From Noon Till Three, the audience wouldn't have any of it and the movies flopped.

A good case of damned if you do, damned if you don't.
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: Christopher on April 25, 2014, 06:12:13 AM
I do think Bronson is a better actor than he gets credit for sometimes, and I think it could be said that he was a better actor than he probably gave himself credit for. Indeed I think he could have varied his roles a bit, and he could have had a career more along the lines of the type Eastwood has had as an actor.
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: _Clintan_ on January 31, 2015, 08:12:47 PM
In September last year, a very rare 80's Bronson movie was finally released on DVD - Act of Vengeance, a Cannon produced TV-movie. Highly recommended for the completists. Now all we need is a release of The Sea Wolf on DVD and fans can own every movie Bronson did from 1970 up to his last movie, Family of Cops III (1999) on either DVD or Blu-ray.

For those of you who like to upgrade your favorite Bronson movies to Blu-ray, Mr. Majestyk and Breakheart Pass were released on the format this past fall, and The White Buffalo is coming in April. The German release of Violent City seems to have been postponed indefinitely. Hopefully we have a good Bronson year in Blu this year.

Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: Christopher on February 01, 2015, 07:29:43 AM
I was just on IMDb and saw that Bronson was in three episodes of Alfred Hitchcock Presents. I'm not sure I've seen any of those. I remember his episode "Two" in Twilight Zone. Two of Bronson's Hitchcock episodes were in season 1, which means they're currently available on Netflix (they just have the first three seasons).
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: antonis on February 01, 2015, 07:41:47 AM
In September last year, a very rare 80's Bronson movie was finally released on DVD - Act of Vengeance, a Cannon produced TV-movie. Highly recommended for the completists. Now all we need is a release of The Sea Wolf on DVD .

1)I hope they didn't use the VHS cover for this Act of Vengeance DVD release.Totally misleading.
2)I'm almost certain there is a Danish DVD of the Sea Wolf around.
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: _Clintan_ on February 01, 2015, 09:12:18 AM
1)I hope they didn't use the VHS cover for this Act of Vengeance DVD release.Totally misleading.

Which one are you referring to? The American?

2)I'm almost certain there is a Danish DVD of the Sea Wolf around.

This would shock and THRILL me if true. Please, if you can, look into it. I'm dying to replace my Swedish VHS tape of it.
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: antonis on February 01, 2015, 09:20:55 AM
Which one are you referring to? The American?

This would shock and THRILL me if true. Please, if you can, look into it. I'm dying to replace my Swedish VHS tape of it.
1)(http://www.picsforfriends.info/upload_image/abad49006f6fc1d746e454c7bbf8bc90.jpg)

2)Sorry, ... Spanish

http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Sea-Wolf-Charles-Bronson/dp/B00A8OB4UI
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51n-w9jBm0L._SY300_.jpg)
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: _Clintan_ on February 01, 2015, 09:34:15 AM
Yeah, the French VHS of Act of Vengeance is misleading. Here's the German DVD cover, same as the German VHS cover: http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B00LX19AY2/ref=s9_simh_gw_p74_d0_i1?pf_rd_m=A3JWKAKR8XB7XF&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=0SE7S2EPB8MZ1QWXH2M1&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=455353687&pf_rd_i=301128

One hilarious thing is the back cover, it has a bad photoshopped picture of Bronson from Death Wish V on it, what makes it even worse is that in Death Wish V, he has a mustache, which he doesn't in Act of Vengeance!

Oh yes, the Spanish version of The Sea Wolf. Ordered that one some time ago, because it was supposed to have an English audio track on it. When I got it, however, it only had Spanish and GERMAN! Pissed me off royally. There is a German DVD of it, but only with German audio.
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: Christopher on February 27, 2015, 05:57:20 PM
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51y3uFMPWHL.jpg)(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51pzpSZJFRL.jpg)

I've just recently recieved these two DVDs in the mail--the first a double feature with Rider on the Rain and Farewell Friend, and the other with Cabo Blanco and an episode of U.S. Marshal Bronson guest starred in. Rider on the Rain is the only one of these I've seen before. In fact I have a cheap DVD version of it but replaced it since this is widescreen and the picture quality looks good. O0
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: antonis on February 28, 2015, 12:22:35 AM
Rider & Farewell are two of Bronson's best.
I was lucky enough to watch the second one in a theater during the '80s.
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: _Clintan_ on August 17, 2015, 12:35:13 PM
If anyone have missed it, Twilight Time (same company that released the now OOP Blu-ray of Thunderbolt and Lightfoot) are releasing Ten to Midnight. Here's the awesome cover:

(http://www.joblo.com/images_arrownews/10tomidnighttwilighttime.jpg)
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: Gerry on August 29, 2015, 04:46:56 PM
I like Charles "Buchinsky" Bronson  O0 .
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: antonis on December 07, 2015, 02:35:54 AM
Really liked the first one,so I just bought this one.Has anybody read it ?

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/513VJte7lcL._SX331_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg)
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: Christopher on December 07, 2015, 12:51:17 PM
I read the first one earlier this year, and didn't even know about a second one! Thanks, antonis, I'll check on it sometime. Might be worth a read.
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: Christopher on December 25, 2015, 11:01:57 AM
I just took advantage of some gift cards and ordered Bronson's Loose Again. O0
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: Rawhide7 on December 25, 2015, 03:05:25 PM
Gift cards are great for things like this.  Charles Bronson is great!
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: Christopher on December 23, 2018, 02:09:26 PM
I was browsing DVDs and saw this movie called Death Kiss, which was released this year: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7886442/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_2

Take a look at the cover. :D :o ;D
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Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: KC on December 23, 2018, 10:11:19 PM
^ That's pretty funny. Apparently this Robert Kovacs, aka Robert Bronzi, is trying to make a career as a Charles Bronson "doppelgänger." Here's an interview with him:

http://bzfilm.com/talks-interviews/robert-bronzi-bzfilm-interview/
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: Gant on December 24, 2018, 02:32:14 AM
My Nan looked tougher... !!
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: Christopher on December 24, 2018, 01:48:55 PM
^ That's pretty funny. Apparently this Robert Kovacs, aka Robert Bronzi, is trying to make a career as a Charles Bronson "doppelgänger." Here's an interview with him:

http://bzfilm.com/talks-interviews/robert-bronzi-bzfilm-interview/
There's really an uncanny resemblance in those photos!
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: AKA23 on December 25, 2018, 10:22:01 AM
It's pretty ridiculous how much this guy is trying to look like Charles Bronson. He must sound different, no, or is he trying to imitate Bronson's voice as well?
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: KC on December 25, 2018, 01:54:19 PM
Bronson could speak? ??? :o
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: AKA23 on December 25, 2018, 03:48:02 PM
KC, to be honest, I've seen very few movies that he's been in. The first "Death Wish," and "The Family of Cops" series of movies that he did when he was in his 70's. I kind of like him as a personality, but am not really familiar with his acting beyond those few movies. I wasn't really a fan of the "Death Wish" concept, so I never saw any of the sequels. 
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: Christopher on December 25, 2018, 06:11:33 PM
I'd watch Death Kiss out of curiosity. I didn't buy it though. :D That could be a rental for me. I am a Bronson fan, which should be obvious from this thread. I can get into Bronson kicks from time to time and have a decent collection of his movies on DVD.

AKA, I have the Family of Cops movies on DVD, but actually I've only seen the first one. Maybe I should do a little marathon there.
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: Gant on December 26, 2018, 03:55:42 AM
I reckon Hard Times is easily Bronsons best movie

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Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: Christopher on February 29, 2020, 09:06:17 PM
I watched Death Kiss today, which I posted about above in December 2018 (I guess that's one way to spend Leap Day  :D). I watched it on a free streaming service called Tubi. They have ads so the movies/shows on there are free, but there was only one commercial break during the movie. Anyway, the movie was okay. AKA asked a while back about if Kovacs is trying to sound like Bronson as well, and I'd say not really. He didn't speak much but it didn't sound like he was trying to sound like him. Most of his lines were around two words or so. For real.

Daniel Baldwin is named on the poster I posted before, but I hadn't realized that he was in the first Family of Cops movie. I wonder if he shared stories on set about working with the real Bronson.
Title: Re: The Charles Bronson Appreciation Thread
Post by: Christopher on November 03, 2021, 07:25:20 PM
Today, November 3, marks what would have been Charles Bronson's 100th birthday!