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Title: Josey Wales
Post by: RGP on May 20, 2003, 09:20:38 AM
It's good to be back on the board, been mega busy lately. Shame I had to re-register :'( but like the new look forum.

Just saw The Outlaw Josey Wales for first ime last night.

Am I right in saying the man who double crosses Josey in the begining is also the Mayor in Dirty Harry. He looks very familiar.
Title: Re:Josey Wales
Post by: vik on May 20, 2003, 11:40:59 AM
why don't u re-watch dirty harry - just a thought
Title: Re:Josey Wales
Post by: RGP on May 20, 2003, 12:54:33 PM
Will do! I just thought someone may know. I don't get so much time to watch movies these days sadly so it may be a while before I can re-watch Dirty Harry.
Title: Re:Josey Wales
Post by: Brendan on May 20, 2003, 12:57:15 PM
John Vernon played Fletcher in The Outlaw Josey Wales, he also played the Mayor in Dirty Harry.
Title: Re:Josey Wales
Post by: RGP on May 20, 2003, 12:58:49 PM
That's fantastic, thanks for the clarification Nightwing
Title: Re:Josey Wales
Post by: KC on May 20, 2003, 06:37:55 PM
RGP, next time ... try the Filmography right here on this site. No waiting.  :D

BTW, Fletcher didn't double-cross Josey. He was double-crossed himself by Senator Lane, who promised his men amnesty, then had them all shot.
Title: Re:Josey Wales
Post by: RGP on May 21, 2003, 04:55:23 AM
Thanks KC, yeah I know he wasn't double crossed, but in Josey's eyes it would have appeared that way. It was a fantastic ending when they both meet eachother. I was on the edge of my seat waiting for something to happen.

It's also nice how in this western I was left with the impression Josey settles down in the town rather than going off on his own as he does in many other westerns.
Title: Re:Josey Wales
Post by: KC on May 21, 2003, 06:38:43 AM
RGP, Eastwood purposefully left that a bit ambiguous so the audience could make up their own minds. Here's an  excerpt from an interview Clint gave to Richard Thompson and Tim Hunter of Film Comment in 1978:
It's much more interesting for the audience to write with you, to draw with you. ... At the end of Josey Wales, who knows what's going to happen? The audience is rooting for him to go back, but you don't show him going back into the arms of the girl he's left. He's just riding off in that direction, into the sunrise rather than the sunset. Hopefully, it gives you the feeling. The audience is willing him to go back there. That's their participation.

And from an interview with Tim Cahill of Rolling Stone in 1985:
So you have a lot of faith in your audience.

You have to. You don't play down to people, you don't say, "I'd better make this a little simpler, a little more expository." For instance, in Josey Wales, when he rides off at the end of the picture, the editor ... had wanted to superimpose the girl's face over him. He said, "We want the audience to know that he's going back to her." Well, we all know he's going back. The audience wills him back. If he rides off on the other side of town, the audience will say, "Well, he's gonna turn left." It's really looking down on an audience to tell them something they already know. Or tell them something they can draw in because it arises out of the story. I try to make that part of their job.

(Both reprinted in Clint Eastwood: Interviews, p. 60, 121-122)
Title: Re:Josey Wales
Post by: Ravenwind on May 27, 2003, 03:15:50 AM
Bill McKinney,who played Terrill,was in many Eastwood movies,"Gauntlet","Bronco Billy" and the orangutang movies.Sorry you "Any which way" fans,but thats what they are to me. ;D
Title: Re:Josey Wales
Post by: Red on May 27, 2003, 12:37:56 PM
John Quade who played the Comanchero Leader was also in the 'Which Way' films playing Cholla, the leader of the Black Widows.  He also played a character called Jake Ross in High Plains Drifter.

John Russell, who played Bloody Bill Anderson, was Jack Wade in Honkytonk Man and Stockburn in Pale Rider.

Sam Bottoms, who played Jamie, was Leonard James in Bronco Billy.

Woodrow Parfrey, who played the Carpetbagger, was Dr Canterbury in Bronco Billy.

Joyce Jameson, who played Rose, was in Every which way but loose  as Sybil.

Sheb Wooley, who played Travis Cobb, was Pete Nolan in Rawhide from 1959 to 1962.

Matt Clark, who played Kelly, was in Honkytonk Man as Virgil.

William O'Connell, who played Sim Carstairs, was Elmo the Black Widow in both the 'Which Way' films.  He also played Horace Tabor in Paint your Wagon and the barber in High Plains Drifter.

Len Lesser, who played Abe, was Platoon Sgt Bellamy in Kellys Heroes.

Doug McGrath, who played Lige, was in The Gauntlet, Every which way but loose, Bronco Billy and Pale Rider.

Bruce M. Fischer, who played Yoke, was in City Heat and also played Wolf in Escape from Alcatraz.

John Mitchum, who played Al, was in High Plains Drifter and also played Frank DiGiorgio in the first three Dirty Harry films.

Robert F. Hoy, who played a Texas Ranger, was in The Enforcer and Bronco Billy.

And last but not least is Clints son Kyle who is seen briefly at the start of the film as Joseys son.  He had bit parts in Bronco Billy and The Bridges of Madison County and a somewhat larger role as Whit in Honkytonk Man.

I think I got them all........ ;D
Title: Re:Josey Wales
Post by: philo on May 27, 2003, 03:03:58 PM

Nearly ....

Woodrow Parfrey was also Mr Jaffe in Dirty Harrry, selling the most famous hot dog in motion picture history.  ;)

Philo .
Title: Re:Josey Wales
Post by: the stranger on May 30, 2003, 05:16:30 PM
 :o Shame on you all! ;)
Albert Popwell: Wonderful Digby Coogan's Bluff Bank Robber Dirty Harry Pimp Magnum Force Mustapha The Enforcer Horace King Sudden Impact.

Walter Barnes: Sheriff Dix Bronco Billy Tank Murdock Every which way but Loose

Was Kyle also seen in The Rookie and had an ice cream from his father in Thunderbolt and Lightfoot ;) ;D

Title: Re:Josey Wales
Post by: KC on May 30, 2003, 05:55:28 PM
Stranger, this thread seems to be about actors in The Outlaw Josey Wales who have been in other Eastwood films ... not about Eastwood's "repertory company" in general. ;)

There's still one who hasn't been mentioned, however. ;)
Title: Re:Josey Wales
Post by: Callahan on May 30, 2003, 06:09:20 PM
Pat Hingle... ;)

Hang 'Em High
The Gauntlet
Sudden Impact
Title: Re:Josey Wales
Post by: the stranger on May 30, 2003, 06:10:27 PM
 :-[ ;D ;D That'll teach me not to read a thread from the start! ;D ;D
Do you mean Matt Clark, was'nt he also in the Beguiled?
Title: Re:Josey Wales
Post by: philo on May 30, 2003, 06:45:21 PM

KC ,

You must mean Sondra Locke  ;)

Philo .
Title: Re:Josey Wales
Post by: KC on May 30, 2003, 08:12:06 PM
Right, Philo! How could we forget her? :o ;)
Title: Re:Josey Wales
Post by: philo on May 31, 2003, 09:31:40 AM

Wow  :o  I was right ......

Philo .