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Eastwood News / Re: THE MULE: Reviews and Features in the Media
« on: January 16, 2019, 07:41:37 PM »
This is great, Hocine. Thanks for sharing. I find the most interesting thing about this to be that Clint appeared to sometimes forget his lines, which at his age would be expected, but would improvise instead. That shows that his mind is still pretty sharp, since that's a difficult thing to do at any age.

Another thing that I found pretty cool is that the cinematographer thinks that Clint might have another movie he's doing in the spring, and that Yves doesn't think that this will be Clint's last role as an actor.

Similar to "The Bridges of Madison County," it seems like Clint resisted including some of the big emotional scenes that other directors seeking Academy Awards for their stars might have included, and that Clint and the editor Joel Cox often chose the more light hearted scenes to include in the movie. Perhaps "this is the last one, so help me God," might have been one of the scenes that was left on the cutting room floor as a result.

Youíre welcome, AKA23.
Yes, I agree with you. I think that itís pretty nice that Clint could improvise.
I think that Clint is not really obsessed with telling the right lines.
For example, if an actor doesnít tell the right word but sounds authentic enough, itís alright then.
Clint thinks that some mistakes can help the scene to look real.
For instance, in Mystic River, during the first police interrogation scene, Sean Penn accidentally spilled his cup of coffee on the table, after Laurence Fishburne asked him an embarrassing question about his criminal past. The fact that Sean spilled his cup of coffee wasnít planned at all but Joel Cox and Clint put this mistake in the movie because it looked real.

When Yves Bťlanger announced that Clint may shoot a new film in the spring, I was really excited.
I hope Yves was right.
Iím curious to know more about this new project. What about Impossible Odds ?
We have no news since October 2016.
In my opinion, it seems that Clint gave up Impossible Odds. But who knows ?
And I also hope that Clint will be back in front of the camera someday.

About choosing the light hearted scenes:
It reminds me an interview with Meryl Streep on shooting The Bridges of Madison County.
In an Oscar worthy scene, Clint was supposed to cry. But instead of showing his tears to the camera and the audience, Clint turned his back. Meryl Streep was surprised about that because many actors would have shown their tears in order to win an Oscar.
So Iím not really surprised that Joel Cox and Clint decided to leave some tearjerking scenes on the cutting room floor.

It's up to $90.5 million in the United States alone as of this weekend. Just $9.5 million to go until $100 million. It will be party time soon! :)

Thatís great !

Eastwood News / Re: THE MULE: Reviews and Features in the Media
« on: January 12, 2019, 06:47:01 AM »
Iíd like to share this interesting conversation between Michael Goldman, author of Clint Eastwood: Master Filmmaker at Work, and cinematographer Yves Bťlanger on shooting The Mule:

Eastwood News / Re: THE MULE: Reviews and Features in the Media
« on: January 02, 2019, 12:21:41 PM »
Thats a great article Hocine. Really enjoyed that.. Thanks

I'd love to see Bronco Billy on the big screen.. I missed it first time round..

Youíre welcome, Gant !
I hope youíll be able to see Bronco Billy on the big screen some day.
Seven years ago, before J. Edgar came out in France, there was a retrospective of all the movies directed by Clint in the French cinematheque. Dirty Harry and The Good the Bad and the Ugly were screened too.
So, I had the opportunity to see all the movies I hadnít seen on the big screen yet, such as The Eiger Sanction,
The Gauntlet, Firefox, Heartbreak Ridge, The Rookie.
Bronco Billy, I think that I had seen it before that retrospective, in a small movie theater in Paris.
I think that Bronco Billy remains one of his best and most charming movies.
His performance is also one of his best. Many people believe that the way Bronco Billy handles his Wild West show is similar to the way Clint handles his Malpaso company. Bronco Billy is close to Honkytonk Man and The Outlaw Josey Wales. Even I have not seen The Mule yet, Iím not really surprised that someone made a parallel between Bronco Billy and The Mule.

Eastwood News / Re: THE MULE: Reviews and Features in the Media
« on: January 01, 2019, 09:24:43 PM »
I would like to share this interesting article, comparing The Mule with Bronco Billy:

Eastwood News / Re: THE MULE: Reviews and Features in the Media
« on: January 01, 2019, 08:32:08 PM »
"Newsweek" has a really interesting and thought-provoking article which is part career retrospective and part a review of "The Mule." I really enjoyed reading it. There are some minor spoilers for "The Mule" in this.

Thank you for sharing this article, AKA23 !
Indeed, itís a good article.
However, I would add Letters From Iwo Jima among the great movies Clint did since Unforgiven.
Of course, Letters From Iwo Jima is not really popular, unlike the movies mentioned by the author of the article.

I expected more people to have posted in this thread too John, so glad you did. Do you have any friends that might be interested in posting on our board?

So did I.
I donít know. Maybe some members have not seen it yet or they have been too busy for posting a review.
In France, The Mule will be released on Wednesday, January 23. So, I have to be patient.
Anyway, itís coming soon.
I think that the Muleís posters will appear next week in public areas.
I will post a review in this thread as soon as possible.
By the way, I really enjoyed your reviews full of informations and details, AKA23 and KC.
I found them very interesting.
Iím so excited and curious to see the last Clint Eastwood picture and his performance as an actor.
I hope that it will do well at the French box office: Gran Torino, Million Dollar Baby, Invictus and American Sniper did very well here. Even Hereafter did well.
Welcome to the board, John !

General Discussion / Re: How'd you become a Clint fan?
« on: December 19, 2018, 03:24:35 PM »

I really enjoyed your story.

My name is Hocine. I am from the suburban area of Paris, France.
The first Clint Eastwood film I have seen is The Good the Bad and the Ugly, on videotape.
I was 7 or 8 years old and it was in 1989 or 1990.
Then, I saw For A Few Dollars More and Hangíem High, on videotape too.
On TV, I saw The Outlaw Josey Wales, some Dirty Harry movies and many others.
The first Clint Eastwood movie I saw in a movie theater is In the Line of Fire.
I was 11 years old and I went alone to the theater.
The Bridges of Madison County is the first movie directed by Clint that I saw in a theater. I was 13 years old.
I started to record on videotapes all the Clint movies that I could when I was 13.
Very soon, I admired Clint Eastwood as an actor and as a director.
I collected many magazines and articles on Clint.
Books played a major role in my passion for cinema and particularly for Clint Eastwood movies.
From True Crime to The 15:17 to Paris, I have never missed a Clint Eastwood movie in a movie theater.
In 2011, the French Cinematheque did a retrospective of films directed by Clint: I saw many of them.

My favorite Clint Eastwood film as a director:

Unforgiven, The Outlaw Josey Wales, Million Dollar Baby, Mystic River, Bird, Honkytonk Man, A Perfect World,
The Bridges of Madison County, High Plains Drifter, Pale Rider, Bronco Billy, Play Misty For Me, White Hunter Black Heart, Breezy, Letters From Iwo Jima, Gran Torino, American Sniper, Flags of Our Fathers, Sully, Changeling

With more than 17 M$, it was a pretty good opening weekend for The Mule whose production budget is around 50 M$.
At least, The Mule can gross between 80 M$ and 100 M$ at the end of its exploitation in America.

Eastwood News / Re: THE MULE: Reviews and Features in the Media
« on: December 16, 2018, 05:13:00 PM »
In my previous post, I meant:
Joe Kidd is still entertaining even if itís not among his best westerns.

Eastwood News / Re: THE MULE: Reviews and Features in the Media
« on: December 16, 2018, 04:47:35 PM »
    What are your favorite Clint movies ?

BTW, to answer your question Hocine, my favorite Eastwood movies in no order.....A Top 11

Dirty Harry                                                         Directing only:  Letters From Iwo Jima, Breezy, American Sniper, Bird                                                         
The Good,The Bad And The Ugly
White Hunter Black Heart
Gran Torino
Joe Kidd
Where Eagles Dare
High Plains Drifter
Million Dollar Baby                                           
The Beguiled
The Outlaw Josey Wales

Thank you for your answer, Perry !
Some of your favorite Clint movies are actually among my favorite ones.
About the movies you quoted, Joe Kidd is generally considered as the weakest one by the critics.
I think that the weakest part of Joe Kidd is the script which was unfinished when the shooting started.
However, the photography of Bruce Surtees is beautiful and Lalo Schifrin music score is good too.
Joe Kidd is still entertaining even if itís among the best westerns Clint did.

My favorite Clint movies:

As a director only:
Bird, Mystic River, Letters from Iwo Jima, Breezy, Flags of Our Fathers, American Sniper, Changeling, Sully

As an actor only:
The Good the Bad and the Ugly, For A Few Dollars More, A Fistful of Dollars, Dirty Harry, Thunderbolt and Lightfoot,
The Beguiled, Hangíem High, Magnum Force, In the Line of Fire, Escape From Alcatraz, Tightrope (unofficially directed by Clint)

As an actor and director:
Unforgiven, The Outlaw Josey Wales, Million Dollar Baby, A Perfect World, The Bridges of Madison County,
Honkytonk Man, High Plains Drifter, Pale Rider, Bronco Billy, Gran Torino, Play Misty for Me, White Hunter Black Heart, Heartbreak Ridge

I havenít seen The Mule: in France, it will be released on January 23.
I will see it for sure.

Eastwood News / Re: THE MULE: Reviews and Features in the Media
« on: December 16, 2018, 03:29:15 PM »

Hocine, Gran Torino to me is a top 5 movie of Clint's career as far as I'm concerned. I did like Sniper very much. That's about it for the decade since 2008. My tastes run very different from most in here. I'm not as enamored with Unforgiven as just about every one else is and that's fine. My point is I just haven't cared for the movies Eastwood has been involved with since 2008 and neither has an audience outside of Sniper.....

Itís very interesting, Perry.
I think that we have the right to like what we want.
If everybody liked the same movies, there wouldnít be so many interesting discussions.
In my opinion, the last decade is not the best of Clintís career.
However, I was able to enjoy each movie he did. Even Hereafter, Trouble with the Curve or Jersey Boys.
American Sniper is probably his best movie of the last decade.
About Gran Torino, itís a very popular movie and I like it very much.
When I talk about Clint movies with some friends who are not necessarily die-hard fans of him, they inevitably quote Gran Torino.

Eastwood News / Re: RIP Sondra Locke
« on: December 16, 2018, 11:35:52 AM »
I actually loved her in Bronco Billy. I think the only role in which she was miscast was as Lynn Halsey-Taylor. The Which Way films would have been less painful to watch if we didn't have to listen to her sing.

Cancer has taken too many men, women and children's lives. It touches all of us to one degree or another.  :(

RIP Sondra.

Actually, among all the movies in which she shared the screen with Clint, Bronco Billy was her favorite one.
She liked The Outlaw Josey Wales too. But she wasnít particularly fond of The Gauntlet or Sudden Impact.

Eastwood News / Re: THE MULE: Production Information and News
« on: December 16, 2018, 07:55:03 AM »
And we're happy to have you. 8)

However ...

Honkytonkman and Hocine, I've enjoyed reading your long and very personal posts in French, but they don't really belong in this thread ... and a lot of our members don't read French. I wish you could paraphrase them, in English, in a couple of threads that are more suited:

The Definitive List Of Eastwood Related Books

What was your first Clint Eastwood movie, and how did it affect you?

How'd you become a Clint fan? (We've had other threads on this topic, but this old one is the only one I could find easily.)

Anybody met Clint?

Or feel free to start a new thread on some of these topics, such as why one should never see an Eastwood film that's been dubbed! But in English please, because we'd like everyone here to keep up with the conversation. :)

Thank you, KC !
I understand what you mean. Everybody has to understand what is going on here.
Fortunately, we can tell our experiences, our stories and personal feelings in English. :)

Eastwood News / Re: THE MULE: Reviews and Features in the Media
« on: December 14, 2018, 09:50:54 AM »

       AKA23...... For some reason after Gran Torino I have not liked any of Eastwood's movies. 15:17 really did it for me. I shut the movie off after 40 minutes. The Mule from what I read, even the positive reviews seems like a retread of other performances from the past and the movie doesn't parallel the real story. So, whats the point?....

Perry, did you actually like Gran Torino ?

What are your favorite Clint movies ?

Why do you think it's in so many fewer theaters than "Sully" or "The 15:17 to Paris?" Does anyone have any thoughts on that? I would have thought given the subject matter of the movie, the A-list cast, and the rare occurrence of Eastwood returning to the screen, Warners would want this to be in as many theaters as possible.

Warner Bros is probably waiting for the first box office results before playing The Mule in more theaters.
The 15:17 to Paris didnít do very well at the box office.
So, Warner Bros may be careful this time.
Sully was a popular and well known story before being a movie.

Well, I think it's likely his best movie in the last decade, but I haven't really enjoyed much of his output in the past decade. I always like the movies in which he acts better than the ones in which he doesn't. I very strongly preferred "Gran Torino." By second-tier Eastwood, I just mean it's not going to be one of my top 10 favorites, not that it's not a well-made film.

Getting a ticket to the premiere was actually pretty easy. Planning the trip was the hard part. The date was posted on a site that announces when advanced screening are held. From there, I had to register for an event hosting website, build a profile, include my photo and other descriptive information, and then request the ticket. I think I got notified that I got the ticket on Thursday evening in my email, and two hours later I had confirmed that I wanted it. I left my apartment Sunday morning, so I had at most 2 days to put this trip together. Buy the tickets, finish up my work tasks so that the team wouldn't be disadvantaged, notify my supervisor, and arrange accommodations with friends that live in the LA area. It was a LOT to do, but I pulled it off.

Unfortunately, I really didn't see Eastwood at all. It was pretty disappointing. He was on the other side of the street doing red carpet interviews, so we saw the back of his head a lot and not much else. He didn't introduce the film before it played, which I was expecting and hoping that he would do. It was still pretty cool to be among the first audiences to see a new Eastwood film though.

Thank you very much for answering, AKA23 !

Being able to attend the world premiere of The Mule is pretty cool. :)
And yes, that would have been great, if you had really seen Clint.

About Clintís filmography in the last decade, he did some good films such as Sully and American Sniper.
He directed some great actors who gave fine performances like Morgan Freeman and Matt Damon in Invictus, Leonardo DiCaprio in J.Edgar, Bradley Cooper in American Sniper and Tom Hanks in Sully.
I enjoyed Jersey Boys, even itís not really considered among his best work.
Hereafter and Trouble with the Curve were watchable but not memorable.
The 15:17 to Paris is the most disappointing film that Clint did in recent years.
So, Iím optimistic for The Mule and I hope that Iíll enjoy it.

In my opinion, his last true masterpieces are Letters from Iwo Jima, Million Dollar Baby and Mystic River.

I honestly don't know how I feel about this film yet. I think I may have to see it again, now that I know what this movie truly is and that all the trailers have been lying to us. Earl Stone is hilarious, but also very insensitive. He speaks Spanish to kind of ridicule the Hispanic drug dealers and the Hispanic drug dealers are caricatures and stereotypes of threatening, menacing criminals and are not fully realized characters, but since that's true of everyone in "The Mule" besides Stone, I didn't really see it that way. I think that was probably what people are thinking of when they say this film is racist/offensive.

For me, the highlight of the film was Arturo Sandoval's score. It's definitely one of the better scores for an Eastwood movie, but at the same time, it also often doesn't fit the comedic tone and tenor of the film. Sometimes Arturo Sandoval's score feels like it belongs in a different, weightier, more emotionally resonant movie than "The Mule." But, if you listen to the score on its own, it is beautiful, and unlike Clint's scores, he doesn't play the same notes over and over again. The pieces are often unique and different scenes have quite different music at times. So, for me, that was the stand out.

I can't wait to see the box office for this movie and the critics reviews. I really don't know what the consensus will be. What I can tell you is this, in my opinion, there is no way that "The Mule" will be nominated or win any Oscars or critics awards. It's not that type of film. So, my friends, go watch "The Mule," and then let's come back here and discuss. I think this could be one of our most interesting times here at the web board. If you have questions, I'm happy to answer them, so feel free to write in the spoilers thread or send me a private message.

Thank you for sharing your reaction, AKA23 !
Iím just curious about how easy it is to attend a world premiere of a big movie in Hollywood.
I have always thought that these special events were only made for the press and people from show business.
So, was it easy to get a ticket for the world premiere of The Mule ?

About your reaction, itís interesting and intriguing at the same time.
I still want to see The Mule next month.
Indeed, it will be released on January 23rd in France.
Very soon, when I learned that Clintís character would be called Earl Stone and not Leo Sharp, it was pretty obvious that The Mule wonít be a biopic.
Clint has already mixed some comedic and dramatic elements in some movies like Honkytonk Man, Space Cowboys and Gran Torino. So, Iíd like  to see how Clint handles all these elements in The Mule.

Among the movies Clint did this last decade, where would you put The Mule ?

Eastwood News / Re: THE MULE: Production Information and News
« on: December 12, 2018, 07:17:40 AM »

Kyle is on the video link , he stands next to Maggie , to the right.

Thank you, Honkytonkman ! You are absolutely right.
Actually, I had not seen the video link.

Eastwood News / Re: THE MULE: Production Information and News
« on: December 10, 2018, 11:30:53 PM »
We have some pictures from the world premiere of The Mule.
However, there is a big mistake: the title talks about Kyle Eastwood but heís not in the pictures.
This is Alison Eastwoodís husband who was mistaken for Kyle Eastwood.

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