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Eastwood News / Re: Whatís next for Clint ?
« on: February 21, 2019, 05:16:57 PM »
The old man and sea would be a dream come true. ...

Yes, why not ?
If Iím right, Spencer Tracy played in a theatrical version of The Old Man and The Sea.
But I donít think that Clint is still looking for many roles.
Probably, Clint will stay behind the camera in his next picture.

Eastwood News / Re: Whatís next for Clint ?
« on: February 21, 2019, 05:10:37 PM »
This may sound weird but I'd like Clint played an exorcist priest.

An exorcist priest like Max Von Sydow in The Exorcist ?
Why not ? Clint played Preacher in Pale Rider.
And in the opening sequence of Thunderbolt and Lightfoot, Clint is disguised as a preacher.

Eastwood News / Re: THE MULE: Reviews and Features in the Media
« on: February 21, 2019, 05:05:00 PM »
For those who understand a bit french :

Thank you, Honkytonkman !
This video shows that Clint Eastwood is still popular and beloved in France.
One thing is not really correct though: someone said that Clint decided to hire cinematographer Yves Bťlanger, because he liked his work in Xavier Dolanís movies and wanted a change in lighting department.
Thatís possible.
But I have read that Tom Stern wasnít available during the shooting of The Mule.
So, camera operator Stephen Campanelli introduced Yves Bťlanger to Clint.

Eastwood News / Re: Whatís next for Clint ?
« on: February 17, 2019, 10:50:02 AM »
Although things could change, I think Clint has probably moved on from "Impossible Odds." Once he quits a project to make another film, he usually doesn't go back to make the film he quit.

I personally would like to see Clint move away from telling fact-based stories, especially true-life stories of heroism/biopics. I am hoping that the success of "The Mule," which was only loosely based on a real person, and wasn't a tale of heroism/a biopic, will inspire him to start telling more fictional stories. I think a big reason that "The Mule" did so well was because it was a heavily fictionalized story that was very different than those other films.

Thank you for answering, AKA23 !
I agree with you. Clint has already made a lot of biopics. And I think that his best one is still Bird.
And of course, he told many fact-based stories like the Iwo Jima movies, Changeling, Invictus, J. Edgar, Jersey Boys, American Sniper, Sully and The 15:17 to Paris. The Mule and White Hunter Black Heart were fictionalized stories.
I donít know what would ę Impossible Odds Ľ bring to Clint Eastwoodís movies now.
But officially, Clint didnít quit ę Impossible Odds Ľ. Maybe he just postponed it.
But if he really quit it, I wouldnít be sad.
I would like to see him telling other fictionalized stories too.
An other western would be a
Thank you for answering, AKA23 !
I agree with you. Clint has already made a lot of biopics. And I think that his best one is still Bird.
And of course, he told many fact-based stories like the Iwo Jima movies, Changeling, Invictus, J. Edgar, Jersey Boys, American Sniper, Sully and The 15:17 to Paris. The Mule and White Hunter Black Heart were fictionalized stories.
I donít know what would ę Impossible Odds Ľ bring to Clint Eastwoodís movies now.
But officially, Clint didnít quit ę Impossible Odds Ľ. Maybe he just postponed it.
But if he really quit it, I wouldnít be sad.
I would like to see him telling I ther fictionalized stories too.
An other western would be a dream.


I watched The Mule last night. As always I'm the last one to watch and you must have commented everything possible already so I don't think I have much to add. I went to a talkative friend that distracted me a lot during the movie so I intend to watch it again... alone >:(

What a crazy character. I remember have seen something similar only in White Hunter Black Heart maybe a little in True Crime but this one beat all of them. I love when Clint play characters like that, I love the bohemian personality of Earl, I love the way he dances and sings and he sings a lot ;D As soon as I finish here, I'm posting on the thread reviews and one of them is very harsh, the reviewer says The Mule is the worst Clint movie which I don't agree at all. I'm not a movie critic, I watch movies for fun and I had fun watching The Mule, I didn't go to judge the character. I confess I don't like something that is very regular in Clint movies, extensive dialogues and weepy drama families but apart from that I love the movie and it is now among my favorite ones. :)

I don't think there is spoilers on this but chose to post here.

Thank you, Aline !
Iím glad that you finally got to see it too !
I agree with you when you said that Earl Stone shares some aspects with John Wilson and Steve Everett.
I would say that Earl Stone also shares some aspects with Bronco Billy, Red Stovall, Philo Beddoe and Tommy Nowak.
And like Robert Kincaid, he dedicated his life to his work.

Eastwood News / Re: THE MULE: Reviews and Features in the Media
« on: February 10, 2019, 04:34:12 PM »
Clint did the cover of French magazine Les Cahiers du Cinťma in the issue of February 2019.
This is the first time since the issue of January 2012 for J. Edgar.
Some good articles are written about The Mule.
The review is very positive.

Eastwood News / Whatís next for Clint ?
« on: February 07, 2019, 09:04:19 PM »
Hello everybody,

Do you have some news about Clintís next project ?

Cinematographer Yves Bťlanger said that Clint could start shooting a new picture next spring.

But he didnít mention any particular project.

When The Mule was released in France on January 23, I have read many reviews of the film, which were mostly


A couple of them (for instance, Le Journal du Dimanche, which can be translated as The Sunday) mentioned that Clintís

next film might be Impossible Odds. At this point, itís still a rumor.

What do you think about that ? Do you want Clint to make Impossible Odds ?

The film finally opened here this week and I saw it yesterday.

Since December 14, I haven't read anything about the film here on the board and have avoided anything about it on the net. I didn't look at this members comment thread and even stopped looking at the box office and what was the last Eastwood film you watched topics as the film started to get a mention there.

I wanted to go into the film with no expectations at all. I, in fact had a terrible feeling that I wouldn't enjoy it, award talk before the film was released just pissed me off. Having read members comments now, I'm glad I didn't. AKA calling it a comedy is totally misleading. Sure there is some funny dialogue in the film but that was the case with Unforgiven and Million Dollar Baby, two of Eastwood's grittiest films.

The first half of this film is quite slow but as in the case with a lot of Eastwood films is that Clint is giving you the whole story. Little back stories about the characters pasts etc. The second half picks up as the Feds start closing in and not having known about Leo Sharp (Earl Stone) on which this story is based, I wasn't sure how long it would take for his luck to run out.

I've read since seeing the film, in real life Leo was running drugs for over 10 years and while in the film it states how many runs Earl is making, it wasn't clear to me how long it was from first to last.

The whole cast is great. Eastwood surrounded himself with seasoned professionals and even though the supporting cast don't get a lot to do, they play the parts well. Bradley Cooper and Clint's scene in the diner is probably the highlight for me in the film. One generation talking to another.

Eastwood has played the father figure with a troubled past or estranged from his family a few times in his career, I'm starting to think is it a little autobiographical? Does Clint feel the same about putting work before family?

Overall a very good film.


Thank you, The Schofield Kid !
The relashionship between Clint and Bradley Cooper in The Mule is similar to the relationship between Clint and Ed Harris in Absolute Power. Cooper, like Ed Harris, has a lot of respect for Clintís character.
Clint is a spiritual father for them.

I just saw "The Mule" yesterday in Belgium. Very good entertainment, although I have some reservations that have not spoiled my pleasure to see Clint play this daring old man, and the side "examination of conscience" that can be understood in the second degree. An example of a second degree is the question he poses to Andy Garcia: "How many men do you have to kill to afford such a house?" Answer "Many" (alluding to the many killer roles that Clint has incarnated during his life, certainly). His passion for flowers can be seen as his taste for good cinema ... not necessarily profitable, while the link he has with drug traffickers offers a parallelism with the one Clint keeps with the Warner studio.

My reservations are related to the fact that I perceive something unfinished in the scenario: the characters could be more digs, and, even if it skillfully mixes drama, suspense, and humor, this scenario could have gone much far in each of these three aspects. It's a pretty crazy story, and that crazy side could be a little more exaggerated, I think.  It's also true that not seeing the bad guys arrested or punished is quite confusing and unusual, but it's a detail.

Aside from these reservations, I had a great movie time.

I do feel that scenes are missing (and the comments I read here about missing sentences, as they appear in the trailer, confirm this feeling). I would be happy to discover in Bluray a long version of the film (wait and see). I do not remember seeing any scenes, like the one where Clint puts money in a box in front of a young black woman (0'30 '' from the video link below), but maybe have I seen it without paying attention? Do you remember?

Thank you for your review, Honkytonkman.
Iím glad that you enjoyed The Mule.
I also noticed that some scenes that we see in the videoclip of Tobey Keithís Donít Let the Old Man In are actually missing in the film.
I donít think that we will see an other version of The Mule in Bluray because Clint Eastwood just doesnít do that.
I think weíll see the theatrical version in Bluray.
The only Clint Eastwood film that we can see deleted scenes in Bluray is In the Line of Fire but itís directed by Wolfgang Petersen. And of course, The Good the Bad and the Ugly has its long version but itís an other story.

While watching "The Mule" something that I noticed that is not typical of films that Eastwood directs is that it seemed to me that Clint included a lot more close ups, especially of his character, than he typically does. Did anyone else notice that as well, and why do you think that was done for this film?

Yes, I think youíre right.
The Mule is focused on Clintís character with many driving sequences.
So, close ups may be logical.
Close ups can show Clintís face and skin better and the fact that he got old.

I have finally seen The Mule this week in Paris, France.
Actually, I have seen it twice.
The first time was on Wednesday night and the second time was on Friday night.
The theater wasnít so crowded on Wednesday but it was full on Friday.
And I plan to see it again on Saturday afternoon.

I like The Mule very much.
The first thing I can say about The Mule is that Clint Eastwood shows that heís really a great actor and a great movie star. He deserved an Oscar nomination for his performance at least. I mean it.
Clint is talkative, he sings, he dances. Heís just wonderful.
The best thing in The Mule is just the physical presence of Clint Eastwood.
His face, his body, his eyes, his voice are immediately recognizable.
Even he got older. The Mule is definitely built around Clintís character.
As AKA23 told us last month, thereís really nothing to spoil in this film.
Itís about Earl Stone, an old man who is probably near the end of his life.
Indeed, heís nearly 90 years old and lived most of his life for working as an horticulturist.
Earl loves flowers and spent more time with them than with his own family.
Earl missed most of the familial events like his daughterís wedding and graduation.
But because of digital technologiesí development, his business is over.
Earl is broke and had to find an other job to make money, save his house from foreclosure and finance his granddaughterís wedding. He wants to keep enjoying life too. So, he accepted to drive.
The direction in The Mule is very minimalistic and simple.
I like the score of Arturo Sandoval and all the old songs we can hear.
When Clint sings Willie Nelsonís On The Road Again, I had the feeling to hear Clint Eastwood singing in Honkytonk Man.
Dianne Wiest, Bradley Cooper were good, although their roles are secondary.
The rest of the cast is good too. Yves Bťlangerís photography is not so dark. I would say sunny most of the time.
The best scenes are probably the ones Clint shares with Cooper and Wiest.
He has a great chemistry with them. Andy Garcia is funny and reminds me Tony Montana character played by Al Pacino in Scarface. But a softer and non paranoid Tony Montana.
The dance scene with women in bikinis close to the swimming pool are useless for the story itself.
But they are funny and tell something about Earl Stone: he enjoys life though heís nearly 90 years old.
The Mule is a companion piece to Gran Torino like Bronco Billy is a companion piece to Honkytonk Man.
The Mule is definitely lighter than Gran Torino, even thereís some sad scenes.
The Mule is more a road trip and a comedy drama than a thriller or an action movie.
This movie is a tribute to Clint Eastwood, like Gran Torino, and speaks about Clint Eastwood.
Itís about his lifetime, his regrets, his failures and his success. Itís about the importance of family.
Itís about America and the cost of the American dream.
There are some priceless life lessons.
Itís always a great pleasure to see Clint on big screen.

In The Mule, director Clint Eastwood is overshadowed by actor Clint Eastwood.
Without Clint, there wouldnít be The Mule. Pure and simple.
But The Mule is a very good movie, very funny, very entertaining.
Itís not as good as Unforgiven, The Outlaw Josey Wales, Million Dollar Baby, Mystic River, Bird, A Perfect World,
The Bridges of Madison County, Letters From Iwo Jima, Honkytonk Man and High Plains Drifter.
But I think that The Mule is not so far from the level of Gran Torino.
Earl Stone is one of the best Clintís characters.

Nowadays, the American cinema lacks movies like The Mule.

Thank you so much, Mr Eastwood !

Eastwood News / Re: THE MULE: Production Information and News
« on: January 25, 2019, 08:15:55 PM »
This weekend Clint Eastwoodís The Mule will cross the $100 million mark at the domestic box office. Itís a mulestone! Itís hard to overstate how impressive this showing is: A movie about an 80-something codger driving around the country became one of the biggest hits of the year in relation to its cost despite being mostly dismissed by critics and getting no love at the Golden Globes or the Oscars. The success of The Mule is as remarkable as the success of Crazy Rich Asians.

Thank you, Saman Moradkhani !
This article is a good reminder :)

Eastwood News / Re: THE MULE: Reviews and Features in the Media
« on: January 16, 2019, 07:41:37 PM »
This is great, Hocine. Thanks for sharing. I find the most interesting thing about this to be that Clint appeared to sometimes forget his lines, which at his age would be expected, but would improvise instead. That shows that his mind is still pretty sharp, since that's a difficult thing to do at any age.

Another thing that I found pretty cool is that the cinematographer thinks that Clint might have another movie he's doing in the spring, and that Yves doesn't think that this will be Clint's last role as an actor.

Similar to "The Bridges of Madison County," it seems like Clint resisted including some of the big emotional scenes that other directors seeking Academy Awards for their stars might have included, and that Clint and the editor Joel Cox often chose the more light hearted scenes to include in the movie. Perhaps "this is the last one, so help me God," might have been one of the scenes that was left on the cutting room floor as a result.

Youíre welcome, AKA23.
Yes, I agree with you. I think that itís pretty nice that Clint could improvise.
I think that Clint is not really obsessed with telling the right lines.
For example, if an actor doesnít tell the right word but sounds authentic enough, itís alright then.
Clint thinks that some mistakes can help the scene to look real.
For instance, in Mystic River, during the first police interrogation scene, Sean Penn accidentally spilled his cup of coffee on the table, after Laurence Fishburne asked him an embarrassing question about his criminal past. The fact that Sean spilled his cup of coffee wasnít planned at all but Joel Cox and Clint put this mistake in the movie because it looked real.

When Yves Bťlanger announced that Clint may shoot a new film in the spring, I was really excited.
I hope Yves was right.
Iím curious to know more about this new project. What about Impossible Odds ?
We have no news since October 2016.
In my opinion, it seems that Clint gave up Impossible Odds. But who knows ?
And I also hope that Clint will be back in front of the camera someday.

About choosing the light hearted scenes:
It reminds me an interview with Meryl Streep on shooting The Bridges of Madison County.
In an Oscar worthy scene, Clint was supposed to cry. But instead of showing his tears to the camera and the audience, Clint turned his back. Meryl Streep was surprised about that because many actors would have shown their tears in order to win an Oscar.
So Iím not really surprised that Joel Cox and Clint decided to leave some tearjerking scenes on the cutting room floor.

It's up to $90.5 million in the United States alone as of this weekend. Just $9.5 million to go until $100 million. It will be party time soon! :)

Thatís great !

Eastwood News / Re: THE MULE: Reviews and Features in the Media
« on: January 12, 2019, 06:47:01 AM »
Iíd like to share this interesting conversation between Michael Goldman, author of Clint Eastwood: Master Filmmaker at Work, and cinematographer Yves Bťlanger on shooting The Mule:

Eastwood News / Re: THE MULE: Reviews and Features in the Media
« on: January 02, 2019, 12:21:41 PM »
Thats a great article Hocine. Really enjoyed that.. Thanks

I'd love to see Bronco Billy on the big screen.. I missed it first time round..

Youíre welcome, Gant !
I hope youíll be able to see Bronco Billy on the big screen some day.
Seven years ago, before J. Edgar came out in France, there was a retrospective of all the movies directed by Clint in the French cinematheque. Dirty Harry and The Good the Bad and the Ugly were screened too.
So, I had the opportunity to see all the movies I hadnít seen on the big screen yet, such as The Eiger Sanction,
The Gauntlet, Firefox, Heartbreak Ridge, The Rookie.
Bronco Billy, I think that I had seen it before that retrospective, in a small movie theater in Paris.
I think that Bronco Billy remains one of his best and most charming movies.
His performance is also one of his best. Many people believe that the way Bronco Billy handles his Wild West show is similar to the way Clint handles his Malpaso company. Bronco Billy is close to Honkytonk Man and The Outlaw Josey Wales. Even I have not seen The Mule yet, Iím not really surprised that someone made a parallel between Bronco Billy and The Mule.

Eastwood News / Re: THE MULE: Reviews and Features in the Media
« on: January 01, 2019, 09:24:43 PM »
I would like to share this interesting article, comparing The Mule with Bronco Billy:

Eastwood News / Re: THE MULE: Reviews and Features in the Media
« on: January 01, 2019, 08:32:08 PM »
"Newsweek" has a really interesting and thought-provoking article which is part career retrospective and part a review of "The Mule." I really enjoyed reading it. There are some minor spoilers for "The Mule" in this.

Thank you for sharing this article, AKA23 !
Indeed, itís a good article.
However, I would add Letters From Iwo Jima among the great movies Clint did since Unforgiven.
Of course, Letters From Iwo Jima is not really popular, unlike the movies mentioned by the author of the article.

I expected more people to have posted in this thread too John, so glad you did. Do you have any friends that might be interested in posting on our board?

So did I.
I donít know. Maybe some members have not seen it yet or they have been too busy for posting a review.
In France, The Mule will be released on Wednesday, January 23. So, I have to be patient.
Anyway, itís coming soon.
I think that the Muleís posters will appear next week in public areas.
I will post a review in this thread as soon as possible.
By the way, I really enjoyed your reviews full of informations and details, AKA23 and KC.
I found them very interesting.
Iím so excited and curious to see the last Clint Eastwood picture and his performance as an actor.
I hope that it will do well at the French box office: Gran Torino, Million Dollar Baby, Invictus and American Sniper did very well here. Even Hereafter did well.
Welcome to the board, John !

General Discussion / Re: How'd you become a Clint fan?
« on: December 19, 2018, 03:24:35 PM »

I really enjoyed your story.

My name is Hocine. I am from the suburban area of Paris, France.
The first Clint Eastwood film I have seen is The Good the Bad and the Ugly, on videotape.
I was 7 or 8 years old and it was in 1989 or 1990.
Then, I saw For A Few Dollars More and Hangíem High, on videotape too.
On TV, I saw The Outlaw Josey Wales, some Dirty Harry movies and many others.
The first Clint Eastwood movie I saw in a movie theater is In the Line of Fire.
I was 11 years old and I went alone to the theater.
The Bridges of Madison County is the first movie directed by Clint that I saw in a theater. I was 13 years old.
I started to record on videotapes all the Clint movies that I could when I was 13.
Very soon, I admired Clint Eastwood as an actor and as a director.
I collected many magazines and articles on Clint.
Books played a major role in my passion for cinema and particularly for Clint Eastwood movies.
From True Crime to The 15:17 to Paris, I have never missed a Clint Eastwood movie in a movie theater.
In 2011, the French Cinematheque did a retrospective of films directed by Clint: I saw many of them.

My favorite Clint Eastwood film as a director:

Unforgiven, The Outlaw Josey Wales, Million Dollar Baby, Mystic River, Bird, Honkytonk Man, A Perfect World,
The Bridges of Madison County, High Plains Drifter, Pale Rider, Bronco Billy, Play Misty For Me, White Hunter Black Heart, Breezy, Letters From Iwo Jima, Gran Torino, American Sniper, Flags of Our Fathers, Sully, Changeling

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