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Questions & Answers / Re:Why Blondie?
« on: December 07, 2003, 08:15:45 PM »
Yeah, I have very similar color hair to his in those early films, and I have been called "blondie" before by southern italians,  and arabs although in California I'm not considered blonde and on my dl I have "brown" listed.  I am considered light by the Spanish and Itialian side of my family.                                                                              

Clint Eastwood Westerns / Re:Worth it?
« on: November 30, 2003, 10:17:08 PM »

It sounds like we got hooked in the same way and on the same station.

I loved FAFDM.  I like it better than GBU, but I'm in the minority there. FFOD I liked, but not as much. It has the outline of FAFDM. It's like a charcoal sketch of FAFDM--same basic theme but things aren't as flushed out. Still fun though.

Unforgiven wouldn't have been as good without seeing some of the earlier ones. Outlaw Josey Wales I liked too, but more on the second viewing. That's another one where being familiar with the Eastwood persona and themes beforehand helped. I liked that it takes the POV of a Southerner which was fairly rare.

Just a note..anyone else notice the resemblance between the "boy" in Josey Wales and the one in the Unforgiven? Erase the decades and they could be brothers.

Eastwood News / Re:hang arnie high clint
« on: November 30, 2003, 10:09:37 PM »
I've heard that they *weren't* close. I believe that  given the subtext of this.

Childish, the whole thing. Won't make Arnie look good and I hope he realizes that. It'd be one thing if it was just a decorative post, but it sounds like he has really done a lot of good there.

General Discussion / Re:Would you take a bullet for Clint
« on: November 30, 2003, 10:07:47 PM »
Take one? No, but I might *shoot* a bullet for Clint....who knows what one will do when the adrenaline is going?  ;)

Clint Eastwood Westerns / Re:A brilliant move - A college essay on GBU
« on: November 22, 2003, 11:34:59 PM »
I've just realized this was a few weeks old and you probably already graduated and wrote the paper.

Oh well. :(

How did it go?


Clint Eastwood Westerns / Re:A brilliant move - A college essay on GBU
« on: November 22, 2003, 11:33:59 PM »


What is your topic so we can help you out a little more? I'm not quite clear. What examples or conclusions are you trying to draw from GBU?

If the example is "contrast to the survivale of the fittest" hmmm..

I think the fittest did Survive. Clint who was the shrewdest. Tuco, however, is the question in that venue. The "bad" seemed technically more fit, but Tuco had a scrappy fighter element that the "bad" did not have and here's the main thing: a total lack of pride. He was not arrogant. He knew his situation he just kept fighting. It was pure survival for him: "where we came from you either became a priest or became a way was harder."

As far as being "outside the law"...if one were seeing with clear eyes as they were.."the law" was not all that efficient. Seeing with clear eyes could be described as a trait of the "fittest".


Clint Eastwood Westerns / Re:Favorite GBU Scene and Why?
« on: November 22, 2003, 11:15:48 PM »

Yeah, I know. I always feel just a tinge of guilt for almost ignoring the tender scene with the dying Union soldier (and thinking, well thank GOD they had him die before he noticed Blondie had looked away) and going

"Oo. The Poncho. That's right. Thank you Sergio. "



Hi y'all,

I didn't know where to put this one, but figured this area would do as well as any since I met the fellow fan when I was renting Josey Wales.

I'm standing in line renting three movies, one of which was Josey Wales. I hadn't seen it in a while and I only own the Leone trilogy.

I get up to the register and the guy behind the counter who was probably about 20 (I'm in my 30's) says:

"Oh, that's a good one (when he gets to Josey Wales). I don't like Westerns...except with this guy. They've gotta have this guy in them."

I agreed. I said, "Yeah, I know. I wouldn't watch them before. Then I caught one of these and said, "Oh...well...okay."

He said, " Tombstone. That's a good one."

And you know, I haven 't seen Tombstone yet, so I will.


Questions & Answers / Re:clint's appeal to women
« on: November 06, 2003, 10:11:50 PM »
Geez, you're no fun,  mgk.  I wanted to see the thread, too. What are we going to say that's so terribly inappropriate?   :-*


Eastwood News / Re:Clint and Oprah ....
« on: November 03, 2003, 05:03:53 PM »
What segment was it?  



Eastwood News / Re:Clint and Oprah ....
« on: November 03, 2003, 03:21:28 PM »
I heard on the car radio that Clint will be playing golf with Oprah on her show this week. I'm not sure if the show is today's, but it was the first mentioned on the ad.

Anyone know?


Collectors' Corner / Re:Eastwood on Oprah Show 1997
« on: October 06, 2003, 01:01:49 PM »

The transcript is available from burrelle's for $7 but they say it is an Oprah policy not to have the video  available. (What a bizarre policy).

November 18, 1997
Mr. & Mrs. Clint Eastwood (Eastwood family shares the story of how they met and fell in love and what impact his celebrity status has on their relationship)

Let us know if you find it and the source.


Eastwood News / Re:clint on inside the actors studio; reminder
« on: October 06, 2003, 12:22:47 PM »
I saw most of it. I've never seen or really read an interview before. Interesting to me on a couple of counts:

1. He's so into music
2. His value of silence, listening, and/or tranquilo
3. Living in Carmel as opposed to Malibu or Beverly Hills

These are all things I value and I love the Northern Cal/Big Sur area.  I found this kind of cool because none of these things would be obvious knowing him only by the leone trilogy, josey wales and unforgiven. Maybe Unforgiven a bit.


Clint Eastwood Westerns / Re:Favorite GBU Scene and Why?
« on: September 25, 2003, 11:42:34 PM »
Hey you guys,

Great choices! I almost thought of excluding the graveyard scene from my question because it is so classic, but figured that would be cruel and wrong. :)

Dane: yeah, I remember when I first saw that huge graveyard with the music. Poetic, really.

Matt: yes, that cigar scene is another one I replayed. (see below). And I *love* the way Tuco goes from despondent to eyes glittering with a Pirate grin in a few seconds. If you ever need to perk myself up from a bad mood,  think of that change and pull a Tuco.

Brendan: What is it about the prison camp scene that gets to you the most?

William: yes, that scene was horrifying (in a good way) on first viewing.  The picturesque quality of the scene just added to the horror. It also has great background sound..wind, ravens/hawks, crows that really gives the feeling of spaciousness and isolation.

Eric: I totally understand not being able to name just one. The bridge scene is great (not to mention the segueway into the graveyard scene with Tuco doublecrossing Blondie yet again and hitting his head on the gravestone). The captain dying knowing the bridge is blown gets to me every time.

I asked because I watched GBU over the weekend on DVD on my computer (not the T.V. Different mentality) and was noting the scenes I replayed over to catch little things. I was curious what others notice.

First has anyone ever noticed that Tuco is missing a fingertip in the graveyard scene?

One that I like and always watch twice but isn't a scene I ever see mentioned is the "5 against 2" gunfight.  I've narrowed it down to two reasons:

1. The zen-like element of Clint's character in that scene. It goes way beyond "cool" to almost "languid".

2. The change in Tuco's face from anxiety/fear to ..well, I suppose happiness isn't exactly the word... when he realized Blondie is going to join him and then they walk down to take them on together.

And as ever, the music.


Clint Eastwood Westerns / Favorite GBU Scene and Why?
« on: September 24, 2003, 09:08:08 PM »
What's your favorite GBU scene(s) and why?


I just recently discovered Clint through the Good, the Bad and the Ugly--not previously thinking much about Clint Eastwood or westerns.

The first I saw was the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly by chance on TV.  I watched it on impulse because I'd heard the title before but had absolutely no idea what it was about or even who was in it.

It's true the Clint doesn't appear until quite a ways into the film. Up until then though, my attention was captured by the very fact that I was watching a Western! I'd never done that before probably much like your dorm buds.  I couldn't figure out how serious they were. Some of the scenes were so over the top. Did they know this or was this a function of the age of the movie? (Yes, they did know it. :)  ) I couldn't figure out why this western looked so good. It beat the heck out of some old Sundance catalogue.

But as I said in another thread, it wasn't until Tuco took out his pink parasol that it clicked completely. That was the all or nothing scene for me because the local station cut it to ribbons and I was left wondering how Clint's character got in such bad shape so quickly...were they serious?...until that pink parasol came out. Then it was all clear.

The local station immediately showed it again after it was over which was very helpful. I forget sometimes how much I liked the actual plot of the movie that first I found it so completely **entertaining** .How much it made me laugh similar to "O Brother"  (if you've seeen that) because Tuco adds that evil slapstick quality.  Now when I watch it I tend to be more mesmerized by small details I haven't noticed before. But just as an example, when I first saw the scene with Tuco killing the guy on the train tracks and  then jumping right back on the caboose while taking off his fake army jacket with the famous GBU cry in the background, I laughed my ass off.  I thought it was great on a sheer black humor level.

So, I think you *can* show that one first. Yeah there's a chance they won't make it to the middle part, but trust in your fellow dormies. Just let it sink in. It might take awhile. It took me a few weeks before I realized I must rent all those movies. It was kind of like my first falafel. (What is this? I'm not sure I like it. Maybe I do. No, maybe not. No, yes, I do. I dont' know. What was that?  Then suddenly I found myself craving falafels.)

 If you start it off chronologically it might get unnecessarily like a history lesson and less like entertainment.If you think you must, emphasize Sergio Leone as much as Eastwood. That will get a lot of people who  usually don't like Westerns. Explain that this is the anti-hero Western. The only thing I'd warn them about is the horrible dubbing. I figured they had dubbed the English over Italian they really spoke it was so bad. :)



General Discussion / Re:oh dear..... (Dep't. of bad Eastwood cover art)
« on: September 18, 2003, 12:11:26 AM »
You're right. It was Jean.

Sven on the other hand, is really very good. :)


General Discussion / Re:oh dear..... (Dep't. of bad Eastwood cover art)
« on: September 16, 2003, 02:29:34 AM »
It may just be a Europe Thing. I worked for a co. that  marketed a "straight-to-Europe" DVD and I couldn't believe it when I saw the production art back. They turned one 20-something tan blonde and one 20-something tan brunette into two pasty white redheaded plastic surgery victims.

And no, they didn't do their eyebrows either.

I figured it was because it wasn't high level, but if they're doing it to Clint, I've decided that Europe just has really really bad digital artists.

I'm pretty sure it's all done buy a student named Sven working out of an internet cafe in Amsterdam somewhere.


Questions & Answers / What are they saying in the Morricone chorus?
« on: August 25, 2003, 07:44:54 PM »
Anyone know what the deep-voiced guys are chanting/grunting/singing in the chorus of the various Morricone chorus?

One sounds like "Ho Ho Pecos"  or maybe "Don't go to" something.



Oh that sounds great!  I'd love to go and see it on a big screen. (Nevermind that I'm 3000 miles away). When I saw it was AFI I thought it was local (Calif.), alas.


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