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The Dirty Harry Films / Time between Dirty Harry and Magnum Force?
« on: February 14, 2016, 11:56:01 AM »
I believe there was two years between the release of Dirty Harry and Magnum Force.  Was there an indication of how much time was supposed to have elapsed in the story?  Was it assumed two years or sooner. 

Off-Topic Discussion / How long to reach theaters
« on: January 25, 2016, 01:48:20 PM »
I'm looking to the movie experts for the answers to a few questions:

On average, how long does it take from the first day of shooting for a movie to reach theaters?  This is assuming the movie has no special effects. 

Once it is decided that a movie will be made, how long does the planning process take before shooting can even begin? 

I realize all movies are different, but I'm just looking for ballpark figures, and again, for movies with no major special effects.

Off-Topic Discussion / How do some movies make money?
« on: January 20, 2016, 12:50:31 PM »
I recently watched "Tomahawk Bone," a western/horror with Kurt Russell from 2015.  I thought it was a good movie.  Kurt Russell did a great job, and it looked good; in other words, it didn't look like it was filmed in someone's back yard with a cheap camera.  I noticed, however,  that it has only made $24,231 with limited release.  How in the world does a movie like that even begin to make a profit, and why was it not released to a wider audience?  I've noticed there are other movies like this too.

Off-Topic Discussion / How much is a decent box-office?
« on: December 25, 2014, 04:22:15 PM »
In this day and time, how much would you say a movie has to make at the box=office to at least be memorable and for it to be considered a decent take?  I realize that if a movie's budget is $300,000,000 and it grosses $100,000,000 it's not good, or if it's budget was $25,000,000, and it grosses $75,000,000, it was a success.  But, regardless of budget, isn't there an amount that one can say enough people saw it that it was a decent film?  After all, what average person keeps up with profit?

I have always wondered this, but I recently looked at a list on the MSN page titled, "15 Movies You Already Forgot About."  I have listed a few with domestic and world-wide gross in millions: "The Monuments Men" ($78, $155),  "Hercules," ($72, $243),  and "Into the Storm," ($47, $156).  I realize none of those are Titanics, and they may not have made back the budget, althought i believe "The Monuments men" did, isn't that decent?  How much does a movie have to make to be memorable? 

Except for the Ocean's movies, George Clooney, for example, rarely breaks $100 mil with his pictures,  and he is considered one of the biggest movie stars around.  So, how does all this work?

Clint Eastwood Westerns / When did the Spaghettis become iconic?
« on: November 26, 2014, 06:07:07 AM »
What I mean is, at what point did Clint's FFD, FFDM, and TGBU start to be appreciated as great  films and become three that are among those most associated with Clint Eastwood.

I ask that because, the 60s was before my time, and if I'm not mistaken, it is often said that Clint was a star in the 60s, but Dirty Harry made him a superstar.  There are also some movies from that era that probably aren't on the tip everyone's remembrance, unless you are a huge fan of Eastwood.  So, I'm wondering if there was a specific time period or a certain event that caused these to reach the iconic status that they have.   When I say event, I mean that perhaps when Clint became a superstar it caused the general viewers to become interested in his older work and perhaps discovered that these films were real gems, or perhaps they became very popular when they were shown on tv?  In my memory, the music has been used in other films, and they have been imitated in other films over the years, but as I understand it, they weren't a "Titanic" of their time during original release. 

The Dirty Harry Films / Any intended mystery in Magnum Force?
« on: October 24, 2014, 04:00:30 PM »
Was there anything in MForce that was intended to create any doubt among viewers that  the rookie cops were the killers, or was it normal to assume they were from the start; I believe I assumed it was them from the start.  Was the mystery supposed to be wondering if McCoy was part of the team, or were we supposed to think he might be the sole killer and then become totally shocked when we learned he wasn't involved at all but that Lt. Briggs was the leader? 

In other words, how did the movie makers intend for those elements to play out?

General Discussion / Smokin The Hive
« on: April 21, 2014, 06:54:30 PM »
I am a big country music fan and recently reacquainted myself with an album tune that Clint did with Randy Travis around 1990 called "Smokin' the Hive."   It was on Randy's album, "Heroes and Friends"  I remember it from back then, but hadn't thought about it in a long time.  That got me to thinking about some other country songs Clint participated in.  He actually had a #1 with Merle Haggard around 1980 called Bar Room Buddies.  Does anyone else like these tunes?

Clint Eastwood Westerns / Was Lago a new town?
« on: July 27, 2013, 05:33:07 PM »
In HPD, was Lago a fairly new town?  Was this ever mentioned or have anything to do with the plot?  All the buildings and fences seemed so new and neat.  I recall a building being framed as Clint rides in, so, maybe it was a town under construction?

Off-Topic Discussion / movie popularity flop?
« on: July 12, 2013, 12:10:25 PM »
How low does the box-office on a movie have to be to be considered a popularity flop?  I know that technically, if a movie doesn't make back it's budget, that's not good, but what is the lowest intake that would still be considered a decent popular movie? 

This is confusing because some actors have a big name, but don't consistently make a killing at the theaters.  I've noticed that The Lone Ranger is being labeled as a flop, but it has made around $57 million in the U.S. so far.  I realize that is no Titanic, and it had a much larger budget, but isn't $57 million not bad for a recent release?  I'm sure it will make more.  I read somewhere that a critic said Hollywood should have learned it's lesson after Space Cowboys; well, it made around $100 million.  Doesn't that make it a fairly popular movie among watchers?

General Discussion / Would he have changed the characters?
« on: August 22, 2012, 03:59:50 PM »
There are several movies that i could imagine Clint being in, but just not doing it like the other actor did it.  Clint said in an interview once that he often thought "less was more" when it came to acting.  I don't recall his exact words, but he didn't seem to think that all emotional scenes called for a break-down and crying.  He has certainly delivered that in most of his movies.  He is always the calm, cool, laid back guy regardless of the character.  He doesn't usually show panic, and anger is usually shown with a gritting of the teeth and a few sly comments instead of a yelling scene.  He doesn't yell out in agony when he's hurt, at least not to the point that some actors do. 

I can see the basic plot of some movies that Clint could have done, like "First Blood," "Taken," "The Shootist," or "Witness."  I wonder how much the script dictates about a character and how much an actor can just make it what they want.  If Clint had been offered these movies, would he have turned them down because they didn't fit his persona, or would he have just played them in the calm, cool manner that he usually does, thus, giving them a different feel than the original?

General Discussion / Was "City Heat" a missed opportunity?
« on: August 07, 2012, 07:20:05 PM »
Was it a missed opportunity for a "huge hit?"  I rarely hear anybody mention "City Heat."  It's almost like it doesn't exist among some.  I mention it to some people and they say, "Oh, I don't even remember that one."  Personally, I have trouble even sitting through it.  I think it has a lot of classic  moments and lines that are as good as any, but that's what it seems like, a movie of moments. 

I wonder why they couldn't have found a stronger script for the two biggest stars of that time?  I wonder who got the script first?  Did Clint call Burt or did Burt call Clint?

I was recently talking with a buddy who is also an Eastwood fan about the "High Plains.."/"Pale Rider comparison on the characters being ghosts.  He said that if Clint leaves it open to interpretation, couldn't the same apply to Josey Wales?  He said one could believe that Josey was actually killed in the beginning and allowed to return for revenge.  How could he have ridden into the union camp in the beginning and not get a scratch and then just disappear from the wagon?  How did he ride in and rescue the Indian, old lady, and young girl without a scratch?  He finally got wounded when Terrill and his band lined up in front of him, but how did they keep from ripping him to shreds? Maybe his journey was nearing an end and he got wounded.

I've never heard this discussed about Josey Wales before, But being that Clint had two other westerns that dealt with this idea,  and if someone likes that concept and wants to interpret it that way, I suppose it's not too far fetched.  Any thoughts?

I heard Clint talk once about having parts of the "Bridges of Madison County Script" re-written to suit how he thought the movie should go.  Is this typical with most all scripts?  I've wondered, for example, if "Two Mules...." was written as a more traditional "cowboy in the white hat saves the day" script, and Clint just altered it to fit the direction he wanted.  I wonder if John Wayne could have used the same basic script, yet made it a "John Wayne" movie.

Clint Eastwood Westerns / Clint saved in the end
« on: May 25, 2012, 08:24:45 PM »
This may have been mentioned a thousand times, but I recently realized that three of Clint's westerns end in a similar fashion.  In "A Fist Full of Dollars," "High Plains Drifter," and "Pale Rider," Clint wins a showdown in the street, and then someone tries to pick Clint off with a shotgun and another character shoots the person and saves Clint.  Clint must have liked this ending.

Questions & Answers / Clint's lines in scripts
« on: September 21, 2011, 05:13:42 PM »
Does anyone know if there were lines in scripts written especially to fit Clint's screen persona, or was it just his unique delivery of the lines that made them seem like nobody else could have said it quite like Clint.

For example, in "The Eiger Sanction,"  Clint had some classic exchanges with Pope in the beginning, like:

Pope: My superior want's to see you
Clint: Your Superior, well that doesn't narrow the field much!

Clint: How long have you worked for dragon, Pope?
Pope: twelve years, why?
Clint: Then he's used to having grief in his life.

Clint: Don't forget your trench-coat.  How's anybody going to recognize you without your disguise?

After Clint emptied his pockets before seeing dragon:
Pope:  No wallet?
Clint: Well, I knew I'd be seeing you; I thought I'd best leave it at home.

Nurse: Are you healthy?
Clint: Shall I turn my head and cough?
Nurse: No known infections?
Clint: Nothing other than the usual; syphilis-running sores and clap!

His movies were full of lines that I think only Clint could have delivered.  Would other actors have had those same lines?

Questions & Answers / Gauntlet questions and comments
« on: September 21, 2011, 04:43:33 PM »
Ok, I'm not going to ask, "why didn't the police just shoot the tires out on the bus"?  Nope, I'm not going there. ;D

1.  Do you think Clint played a "dumb" character in this movie?  I've read opinions to that affect, but I don't think he was.  I think he was thrown into a situation that would have been difficult for anyone to figure out.  I assume he wasn't a cop who had experienced things like Dirty Harry, so I'm sure it quickly felt surreal.  He's asked to deliver a nothing witness for a nothing trial, and suddenly both the mob and police are shooting at him.    I think he just had a difficult time believing his own department was trying to kill him.  i think he didn't question Blakelock's assignment more because Blakelock was new and Ben didn't have a feel for him yet.  He knew he was "spit-and-polish" and one to tip-toe around.  Ben probably thought, "Ok, I'll play along with this crappy assignment "this time" and see what happens. 

2. Was Ben really as "washed up" as Blakelock thought?  I don't think so.   I believe the idea was that the hooker needed to be killed off, so he will send along a drunken- bum cop who will screw it up and nobody will care if he gets killed too.  But i never thought his drinking actually caused a problem.  It was obvious he liked it, he kept some with him and took drinks at times, but he was never actually "drunk" during the chase.  It wasn't like he was drunk at crucial times or more interested in drinking than he was figuring things out and doing his job.  I think his handling of the biker gang, helicopter, and bus ride took someone with some skill who had his wits about him.  I'm sure Harry might have had a different thought process, but I don't think he could have handled the physical aspects any better than Ben. 

3.  What do you think happened to them after the credits rolled? 

4.  When the constable let Ben and the hooker out of the car, how did they make it to the Arizona border on foot at the same time the constable arrived in the car?

Off-Topic Discussion / Stars and production companies?
« on: September 16, 2011, 07:37:45 PM »
Do most big stars have their own production companies?  I read that Adam Sandler has one.  I guess since I'm a big Clint Eastwood fan that I knew he had Malpaso, but I thought it was something special and never thought much about others.  Is it no big deal for an actor to have their own production company?

Off-Topic Discussion / Any reason to post new stuff?
« on: September 15, 2011, 05:59:49 PM »
I have been a member since 2008 and have over 200 posts, so I haven't really burned it up, and I don't visit daily, but has everything been discussed here to the point that any post would just be the "same old thing" and not interesting.  It just doesn't seem like posts get much response.  I posted three in the Dirty harry section, and as I return, mine are still at the top of the board with very few responses.  I could post more topics, but when I click on and see my name three times in a row, I feel like I'm hogging the board.  Or, are people here just more of a "serious" nature and don't care for chit chat about minor things.  On other boards I am on, people seem to like shooting the bull about minor things; they often turn into fun.

I posted one called "Clint's western Beards,"  which I agree isn't a deep topic that will be discussed in Congress, but I thought it might spark some discussion.  The topics seem to get a lot of views, but very few responses.  I'm just wondering if the board is just slow or if most topics are just considered lame and unworthy of a response.  I'm a huge Clint fan and could probably post new comments and questions regularly, but it just seems pointless. 

The Dirty Harry Films / Wouldn't Harry have been fired?
« on: September 12, 2011, 04:23:03 PM »
Ok, I know it's a movie, but wouldn't Harry have been fired for all his actions instead of being given a tongue thrashing, or at least have been suspended with a deep investigation, especially in today's politically correct environment?  First, he searches without a warrant at the football stadium, shoots a suspect who had his hands up, denies him medical attention, and tortures him until he confesses the whereabouts of the girl.  We were all rooting for him, but that was certainly grounds.  The DA would hang him today.

Then, he is accused of beating up the suspect.  He didn't do it, but it sure looked like he did.  Again, the Chief gives him a chit chat and he continues working.  As viewers, we knew what was going on, but nobody else knew for sure.  It seems public outcry of police brutality would have forced the department to take action. And that was just the first movie! :o

The Dirty Harry Films / Was there any edge by "The Enforcer"?
« on: September 04, 2011, 04:05:11 PM »
I was too young to remember the controversy when "Dirty harry" came out, but I understand it took a different approach than police movies had to that point, and some other actors turned it down due to it being too controversial.  Then, "Magnum" force looked at where to draw the line with that type of attitude.  Was Dirty Harry still a controversial topic by "The Enforcer," or had it turned to entertainment by then?  Not that there's anything wrong with that, I enjoyed all the movies to a degree, but wasn't the edge gone that had been around earlier?

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