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General Discussion / Re: The Official MEMBER INTRODUCTIONS Thread
« on: October 19, 2006, 08:18:03 PM »
Thanks Americanbeauty. Definitely love it here already. Just picked up "Heartbreak Ridge" on DVD the other day. Good stuff!  (I've already seen it-just mean the DVD experience of Clint is good stuff, but y'all already know that!)  :)

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General Discussion / Re: The Official MEMBER INTRODUCTIONS Thread
« on: October 12, 2006, 07:20:16 PM »
Thank you.

Yeah, I'm having fun reading all the great stuff here and I'm definitely looking forward to "Flags of Our Fathers."

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General Discussion / Re: The Official MEMBER INTRODUCTIONS Thread
« on: October 10, 2006, 08:41:42 PM »
Thanks, Lin. It was my Mom. Things are resuming to some semblance of normalcy now, but we will always miss her. Appreciate it.

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General Discussion / Re: The Official MEMBER INTRODUCTIONS Thread
« on: October 08, 2006, 07:25:59 PM »
Thanks KC. It's much appreciated. I'm doing a lot of browsing right now and enjoying everything, particularly the Eastwood Movie Quotes thread. Great stuff!

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General Discussion / Re: The Official MEMBER INTRODUCTIONS Thread
« on: October 08, 2006, 05:36:30 PM »
Well, I joined a few weeks ago, but due to a major death in the family, I haven't been able to post much. Just getting around to it really.

Love the site. I'm 45-years-old and have loved watching Clint since I was a kid, on TV and at the theaters. He's the best, no doubt. There are still Clint movies I haven't seen, but I'm working on it.

Anyway, glad to be here!  :)

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Clint Eastwood Westerns / Re: Rank The Eastwood Westerns You Have Seen
« on: October 06, 2006, 07:29:33 AM »
A few I haven't seen in a while, so I'm going by memory on the lower three ranked ones, but here goes...

1.The Outlaw Josey Wales
2.Pale Rider
3.High Plains Drifter
4.For a Few Dollars More
5.The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
6.A Fistful of Dollars
7.Unforgiven
8.Two Mules For Sister Sarah
9.Joe Kidd
10.Hang 'Em High

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Clint Eastwood Westerns / Re: Pale Rider and High Plains Drifter
« on: October 04, 2006, 10:04:16 AM »
Thanks for the comments, KC.  :) I guess being Clint's stunt double would call for Buddy to look like him, but I'm amazed at how much he resembles him in HPD. Thanks for the info!

I though about the materializing and dematerializing in PR, except for the scene where he's hiding behind the crates as Stockburn's two deputies go by and he shoots them. Like you said, clever camerawork and Preacher being stealthy.  :)

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Clint Eastwood Westerns / Re: Pale Rider and High Plains Drifter
« on: October 03, 2006, 08:39:02 PM »
Both films are great. I like that Clint has said that whatever the viewer wants to make of it, that's fine. In HPD, I think that Clint's character is indeed the avenging spirit of the sheriff. His fade-in and fade-out from the sweltering desert plains; painting the town red and renaming it "Hell"; Sarah's remark that the dead don't rest if they don't have a marker of some sort; the close-up of Clint being whipped, despite the credits listing Buddy Van Horn as Sheriff Jim Duncan---I think he was given this credit because he was also a stuntman on many Clint films (is still stunt coordinator on Clint's films) including HPD---nevertheless, it is Clint's face and his voice you hear during the whipping scene; Mordecai finally giving Duncan his gravemarker, saying "I never did know your name" followed by Clint saying "Yes you do." Then Mordecai's look of realization, followed by the obvious camera pan right up to the gravemarker with Duncan's name on it.

On the flip side, I think his character of Preacher in PR is human. In the film, he is in more of a protector role than the character in HPD. He doesn't kill until the situation absolutely calls for it (i.e. the arrival of Stockburn and his deputies). It is highly suggested that he knew Stockburn in the past---Stockburn even recognized him at the final showdown. He gives Stockburn the same 6-bullet treatment that Preacher himself survived, except for the final head shot. Mind you, this is just my opinion, but Preacher seems all too human. I don't think a ghost or an angel would have his guns put in a safe deposit box, then go retrieve them.

The only supernatural part for me was the voice calling "Preacher!" Some have theorized that it was Stockburn, but Stockburn didn't know at the time that Preacher was the man from his past. And Stockburn didn't appear to be the type of person to call out like that anyway. I know that Megan calls out for Preacher at the end as he moves on, suggesting that perhaps that is what we were hearing when Preacher said it was "a voice from the past."  In other words, Preacher hears people who have grown attached to him calling for him to come back as he goes from town-to-town. Still, I can't get away from the feeling that this part was a bit supernatural in an otherwise (to me) straightforward Western.

Any theories on what the heck was going on with the "voice from the past?"

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Josey Wales is one of my favorite, if not my favorite Western, hence my user name.  :) I love everything about the film: Josey's deserved reputation as the quickest gunman around; the humor, including Josey's continual tobacco spitting, especially targeting the poor dog; the supporting cast, including Chief Dan George and John Vernon, plus the colorful characters such as Sim Carstairs the ferryman, Granny Hawkins the storekeeper, the carpetbagger, etc.; the dialogue, which is some of the best I've ever heard in a Western; Josey, despite preferring to go it alone, gaining a family along the way; the action set-pieces---I could go on and on.

I first saw this the year it came out at the drive-in. It wasn't a very brightly-lit print, but I loved it anyway. Saw it again at an indoor theater and loved it more. Now, on DVD, it looks better than ever. If you get the chance, buy it. The movie looks pristine and the extras are cool, including a "making of" from the time of the movie and a new "making of" with many of the cast and crew (including Clint, of course) recalling the movie and Clint calling it his favorite of his Westerns.

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