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Eastwood News / Re: Clint : A Retrospective. New Book April 2010
« on: March 12, 2010, 12:34:42 PM »
http://www.thedigitalbits.com/mytwocentsa177.html#030210b

Here is a bit more news not only about the extended version but a planned rollout of many of eastwood's films starting in June (once you get into the link you need to scroll down just a bit to find the info

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Eastwood News / Re: Clint : A Retrospective. New Book April 2010
« on: March 11, 2010, 09:33:57 AM »
Oh good- more double dipping if you're correct on this "to follow later"

So I guess I'll wait to buy the "35 Films" boxed set and see if the extended version gets released later on
(unless they plan to allow the extended Eastwood factor only the blu-ray version, which would suck for DVD owners (not that that's true of course. I am just assuming because thats what usually HAPPENS. Welcome to consumerism in the entertainment field))

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Eastwood News / Re: J.Edgar: Production Information and News
« on: March 11, 2010, 06:40:09 AM »
Guess this means the Mark Twain biopic and the Neil Armstrong biopic are both on hold for now

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Eastwood News / Re: Clint : A Retrospective. New Book April 2010
« on: March 10, 2010, 07:14:00 AM »
Palooka

Now that's some interesting marketing
I understand the 35 Films 35 years set has a 30 page version of the book: Clint A Retrospective (making it a bit of a teaser for the fans who want to buy the book)

NOW we learn from you that Eastwood Factor is actually 90 minutes long! (Thats over a full hour more than the 20 minute piece) If true, that makes the inserted CD thats's in the back of the book a teaser for fans who want to buy the boxed set.

(I'll get it eventually- I'm waiting for amazon to feature a used version for 50m bucks or so)

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Eastwood News / Re: Clint : A Retrospective. New Book April 2010
« on: March 05, 2010, 10:00:33 PM »
Well, KC, take his two most recently acclaimed films (even though they didn't fare well at the boxoffice) Flags of Our fathers and Letters From Iwo Jima

There are a total of ten pages devoted-- many, many lush (and large) pictures and yet just 4 pages of text and much of that shared the page space with the pictures

Now these two films were an acclompishment in several ways
1  He received fresh accolades from critics who praised his unique take on the war
2  This in and of itself is an amazing accomplishment considering the man just came off Mystic River (2003) as well as Million Dollar Baby!(2004)
3 It doesnt really go into the fact that he virtually created LETTERS based on the research he had done on the Japanese Commander who had gone into the war knowing full well he (and his men) would not be returning home
Eastwood commisioned a script from a first time screenwriter and (what seems to be standard practice for him) shot the first draft!

Yes to answer your question-- many of the films do receive a bit of space about the synopsis but more space is dedicated to what made Eastwood decide to do each film more than actual filming or even his musical process (with the handful of films he did the music for)

Of course, I failed to mention that , as with many books, there are paper costs as well as assorted permissions and politics behind the scenes we may not be aware of and all that went into the making of the final book we hold in our hands.  But while it is a handsome book, I sure wish it could have been given just a bit more time and more pages for it to be a truly fitting tribute to a man who has not only accomplished so much, but to a man who has given his fans 40 years of great entertainment

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Eastwood News / Re: Clint : A Retrospective. New Book April 2010
« on: March 05, 2010, 08:53:01 AM »
SLIGHT SPOILERS
SKIP IF YOU PREFER

sigh.....
Well, you know, I WANTED to like it. I really did.
And each reader has their preferences as to what they would prefer to see in a coffee table book of this size
I mean, the pictures are certainly great. A good number of them never had been published that I know of.
But I think the book could stand to be even larger.After all, at the end of the day it IS a coffeetable book.
But this could have been so much more than just a coffee table book (in my opinion)

I think there was very little text, considering this is supposed to be a "retrospective". And what text there was was alot of info I already knew about the man.There could have been a bit more about the making of each film. Well, maybe not EACH film, but at least have a good 5 or 6 pages of text that focuses on his key touchstone films. Dirty Harry and Unforgiven and Mystic River for example. The way it's laid out now each film barely makes room for two pages of text per film.
There is more ABOUT the films I would have liked to see
Explore his unique style of bringing in every film under budget and under time
Maybe reveal the fact he often uses the same character actors in many of his films. (a few interviews with each of them would have been nice so that they could have a bit of spotlight)
Maybe a peek into the offices of Malpaso and see the faces behind the production offices.
He does more than just make films as well.
A few pictures of him golfing would be nice.
But then, that has nothing to do with his filming. Argument accepted there.
So lets explore his musical talent. (the enclosed documentary touches on this a bit but some text in the book itself would have certainly been warrented since his music is a large part of his film career)
But...it's in print now and theres little use complaining now.
It's a really, really NICE book. Don't get me wrong. The documentary is even better (and that could have been a full hour as well not just 22 minutes)
Oh well, book aside, we still have his amazing films to see over and over as we wish. I should think thats all Eastwood would desire anyway. Thats why he made them after all.

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Eastwood News / Re: HEREAFTER: Production Information and News
« on: February 10, 2010, 08:30:15 AM »
Wonder what he plans next?
He's no doubt off playing golf for the next month or two and then he'll get the itch to direct again and maybe he'll announce something in the Spring? After all, he's only 79

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An "EXTRAS" fanatic checking in here...

I am looking forward to the soon to be released 35 Films 35 Years collection
BUT--- being a bit broke, I have to look for a deal (for instance Amazon has it available for 125 bucks VS the 179.98 sticker price)
What I may do is wait awhile and hope someone burns the collection into their computer and sells it as "used" on Amazon and buy it that way. After a month or so-- (usually) there is an Amazon review or two where someone will mention how many bonus features there are and if there are new ones or not and how many minutes the features are

Now, the latest Entertainment weekly (issue date Feb 12/19 Special Oscar issue) has a review of the collection on page 90 (they gave the collection a B plus.

But the only mention the extras get there is that aside from the 24 page booklet there is a "decent (but all too brief) doc that follows a chatty Clint as he walks around the lot, literally taking a stroll down memory lane" I assume that means the feature called The Eastwood Factor. Now the "But all too brief" blurb ( to me) obviously sounds like the reviewer wishes there were more but he doesnt mention how long the piece is. Nor is there a mention in Amazon (yet) as to exactly how many of the films within the collection have either the
original bonus features-or new features that have never been released before on previous copies

Now I totally understand that some fans may dismiss the features....Many of them are satisfied to say,"Just give me the film in widescreen and I'm happy"
But for me, this stuff is pretty informative as it shows the man (and his crew) at work. It also provides a glimpse at the crew over the years. See, I'm one of those folks that likes to stay back after the film is over and read the credits. All those boring names that scroll upwards at the end is a list of everyone who made that film you enjoyed. It was a paycheck that fed their family as well as a testiment to the many obsticles they faced while making the film

Dangers such as filming the man on the Eiger mountain , in the film The Eiger Sanction (where one of the stuntment died during filming)
Or making the film The Outlaw Josey Wales where they filmed in more than one state and yet still brought the film in just over a month. (This is an amazing accomplishment considering Eastwood starred and directed BOTH Eiger and Wales practically back to back) These days, Eiger is considered a forgetable film thought the mountain sequences are the best part and Wales is considered one  a classic.

Or planning around a cities construction projects so that they were able to use the actual city locations instead of faking it somewhere more convenient (like in Mystic River where Clint decided to have the crew and cast show up for work at 9 or 10 am and work til 7 to avoid traffic jams (and as I recall that film STILL came in under budget/days)(I think Tim Robbins said that most Fridays they got off work by 4 pm)

The crew on an Eastwood film are a special bunch who know that each hour spent waiting around is an hour of cash being wasted. Now, if they were on other films...they know if the film goes over days/budget thats extra money for them. But (and I assume here of course) the Eastwood crew (many of them longtime veterans for the man) have stayed with him and I would think they take in a certain amount of pride having that credit at the end of his films knowing that they have participated within the legacy of a legend.

If they were in it for the money alone, then I assume (again) that knowing his style (quick and efficient), they would have moved on to other films where they could make more money over a longer shooting schedule with other directors. But many of the crew members that stay with Eastwood obviously like him.


THATS a crew that should be admired
Thats why I enjoy the bonus features
There is so much hard work that goes into a film, normally. But for an Eastwood film that shoots on location and comes in (typically around 34 days on average) on time and provides an enjoyable two hours that really shows on the sreen...thats the work of people who take pride in their job

An example of stars who appreciated the hard work of a movie crew was something I read about James Cagney (you can read this in the trivia section at IMDB. He (according to legend) would pretend to be sick towards the end of a film (or two) so that the crew could get an extra day of work because he knew how little they were paid.

Well, anyway, those are my thoughts. I'm really looking forward to 35 Films.

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Eastwood News / Re: HEREAFTER: Production Information and News
« on: December 28, 2009, 07:02:06 AM »
I read stuckonlife's contribution on page 7 where Eastwood mentioned being on hiatus waiting to film Matt Damon's scenes in the second week of January....hopefully all goes well for the cast and crew so that they can wrap the film. It'll be interesting to see how he manages to put a thriller together
(I believe this is the screenwriters first (written) horror film as well)

I'm already curious to see what he'll announce as his next film ! (Which I'm guessing, after a short break-- we might hear something before summer!??)

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Maybe you are correct Doug. (About BluRay players handling DVDs as well as BluRays)  I sure hope so.

But over time, once DVD sales drop below a certain level it just won't be worth the time and trouble for any studio to keep making DVDs and then only BluRay will be the norm.



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Sadly, I am afraid that I am waiting for my television to die off before getting a newer model
THEN I will have to start looking for a BluRay player that accomadates DVDs although I fear that over the next five years once the wealthier consumers finally take the plunge and buy Blu-Rays exclusively, the market (who is no doubt tracking the DVD sales figures) will begin the final phase-out of DVDs

Face it folks, the clock is ticking.

And so, I figure I'll just catch my "To be watched" films on DVD through netflix for now and I have already stopped buying new DVDs
It's bad enough I'll have to (eventually) re-buy the handful of DVD favorites in my collection (about 50 DVDs-- both films and collected TV series) in the BuRay format but theres no sense STARTING a BluRay collection now anyway until I upgrade the TV

Unfortunately, I really don't see "Hollywood" changing their double dipping schemes....ever. Even with the new age of BluRay.
There's simply way too much money to be made doing this especially with many hot films that are out now facing their 10, 15, 20 and 30 year anniversaries in the future.
Of course....it's like burning a film to sell at work for 5 bucks
Just because you CAN do something (like burning films (which is considered against the law) or something as greedy as double dipping knowing people (being the sheep that we tend to be) will just rush out and buy it anyway--) doesn't mean that you SHOULD    In the end these things tend to hurt everyone else over time and just causes alot of hurt feelings in the long term all over something thats meant to entertain  

Once again-- I refuse to buy Gran Torino NOW without the behind the scenes features that I love to watch in DVD when i know full well that someday they'll release a newer DVD version WITH the features I want.

Normally,  I would accept the fact that down the road, I will have to buy Gran Torino again IF  I wish to start a BluRay collection.

But to force me to buy Gran Torino more than twice (beyond what should already be available:  a   DVD version WITH bonus features I love (heck, demand as a consumer/fan) and then the BluRay version ) is just pure GREED (not to mention, bad business)

I can imagine what Walt would say to the poor clerk behind the counter if HE were the one wishing to buy a new film for his home entertainment and he found it was only available in FULL SCREEN format. That poor clerk would get such a scowl it would curl his toes!

 I bet there are many, many other potential consumers who are boycotting Gran Torino (in addition to many other films connected with other studios) for the same reasons.
Heck, I bet there's alot of potential consumers who are waiting out this inevitable transition to BluRay because they just can't afford it right now

The sad part is this: Once BluRay becomes the new standard, they'll just keep doing the double dip (once all these transition waiters are fully on board)


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Eastwood News / Re: INVICTUS: Reviews and Features in the Media
« on: December 11, 2009, 07:52:16 AM »
Yes, great interview thanks

I continue to be amazed at Eastwood's tenatiousness

Lets face it. The man has plenty of money so he's not worried about work
And yet when he COULD just, for instance, take a year off and tour all the best of the best gold courses and just relax, he's in there doing all the things a director needs to do with each and every film. (which is even more amazing because even though Eastwood makes it look easy-- directing is a very tough job even if you have a great  crew-- he is STILL averaging nearly two films every two and a half years. I dare say that no other popular megastar who would be his age (pick your own actor) would even try to imagine such a workload.

He is obviously enjoying the back nine of this life.

And while it would be understandable for him to have kept cranking out differant variations of Dirty Harry (as well as variations on his still popular western genre) he chose a more risky route by directing films that held a mirror up to the human condition and despite the odds (for a former well established action star) he succeeded in spades. Winning Oscar after Oscar in addition to dozens of other awards

I dare say that while he left a large portion of his male audience behind (the kind who only wish to watch him if he is Harry or on a horse) he gained so much more with the directing career he chose to pursue. Most especially in the last decade when he focused almost exclusively on the human condition and left that action image behind him (well, aside from Gran Torino, but even then, Torino is arguably much more than a look at the life of a grizzled old vet who in actuality only has maybe four brief "action" scenes in the whole film. (The face off with the hoods on the corner when he rescues Sue, "Get off my lawn", the face off with the gang punk when he beats him up on the guys front lawn, and the ending-- all of which probably only amount to a total of fifteen minutes compared to the rest of the film)

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Eastwood News / Re: Clint : A Retrospective. New Book April 2010
« on: September 30, 2009, 06:13:53 AM »
Quite interesting
But a few questions spring to mind, which, seeing as how this is several months out still, will have to wait.
Still.......

I am naturally assuming that this is a kind of update/follow up to Mr Schickel's excellant 1996 bio of the man
(which stopped around '92's Unforgiven/'95's Bridges of Madison County)

Obviously, if it is.... the book should cover (to some extent) Eastwood's film library from 95 on, when he arguably hit his peak.
Maybe we'll get more insight into Eastwood's decision to ease away from acting and focus on directing.......
With luck, since there is probably still time before the book goes to print, we can get some details about the filming of the upcoming
 "Hereafter" which is due to start filming shortly

The most interesting thing I noticed is this----

UK and the US descriptions mention this :   Har/DVD
I wonder if there will be a DVD that comes with the book? (After all, the page count is 288 which is HALF the size of the 96 Bio.

Thanks for the heads up- I'll be sure to keep an eye out for this beauty

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Eastwood News / Re: DVD: Clint Eastwood: 'American Icon Collection'
« on: September 08, 2009, 04:15:11 AM »
I've sung its praises here before but in my opinion, getting this set just for The Eiger Sanction alone, is worth it.

 The film, now kind of dated and silly in parts with its (very) cardboard characters and at times, cheesy dialogue, has some very, very impressive and stunning footage of Eastwood (yes, thats really him in all those scenes) and the other actors (as well as the brave, minimal crew that was behind the camera) risking everything on the actual Eiger mountain.

So grab a large popcorn and favorite drink, sit back and enjoy this film. Don't worry, there's plenty of attractive women, some good action and the usual
sprinkling of great Eastwood one liners. But trust me, once they get on the mountain in the last portion of the film (depending on the size of your television screen) the film really gets interesting.
But like I said...Thats really Eastwood there on the screen. Being careful to be sure. But the backdrop on which he is playing is stunning.

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Eastwood News / Re: Clint Eastwood ICON
« on: August 26, 2009, 11:46:29 AM »
I like the Outlaw Josey Wales cover better
Eastwood isn't out to kill anyone in sight on that one. Lets remember that Eastwood IS after all, a remarkably gentle person in real life and the characters he PLAYS, are the killers. Also he has directed several rather "gentle" films in his day where not a shot is fired. All of this reveals a remarkable man/filmmaker/producer with a wide pallette of work
Plus the fact that while Josey Wales turns out to be a killer through the course of that film, he still shows moments of humanity even to the end.
The cover (to me) certainly is a definitive reflection of the Josey Wales character
Might have been more crowd appealing if they would have gone with a collage (spelling-sorry) of his characters: Say, Dirty harry, a few of his westerns and no doubt, a shot of Eastwood as a director behind the camera

But in the end- its whats inside the book that counts.

Also-- the horsey butt on the bottom left probably indicates a wrap around cover illustration , but yes, I do agree that the art department should have caught that during the making of process-- it IS a distraction

But i do like the cover

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Eastwood News / Re: Happy Birthday Clint!
« on: May 31, 2009, 02:25:31 AM »
Happy BD to Mr  Eastwood
He's never backed down on what he wants to do with his career
His work ethic is both an inspiration and a gift that future generations can enjoy
Thanks for countless hours of great cinema

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Questions & Answers / Re: GRAN TORINO ON DVD
« on: April 28, 2009, 05:57:23 AM »
The basic sound quality and picture from a DVD at an official place of business?
I have no problem and I can enjoy the film with little complaint

I think it's a shame that many, many folks who buy burned versions of films from Joe Blow on the street (alot of which are out of focus or have the screen tilted or you see a multitude of people getting up to get popcorn or whatever or you hear the laughter (or worse- comments-- of people near the guy filming the movie) feel that they did indeed "see" the film in their home
But then THOSE people arent really concerned about quality, they just want to see the film

Now granted, the bonus features are mostly something for fans who love that kind of thing. Most people on June 9, are just interested in seeing the movie and thats fine. But there are those of us who enjoy the film enough where we want to see it a few more times as soon as we can AND the DVD is the only way to do that and so we, too, will buy it.

But then, to just bring out a version with a second disc that those same fans will have to buy because they want the bonus features too---
well, its just wrong. I for one have been hit by this economy and I can't really afford to buy the DIRECTORS CUT/SPECIAL EDITION/ ANNIVERSARY EDITION/ or whatever they call the second, third and fourth version of the film.

Actually, there are a huge number of people who are investing in higher quality televisions that will lean towards the BluRay format, enough in fact that in another dozen years or so, the DVD will go the way of the VHS tape. Progress is a war where there are many casualties

Anyway, no matter what the format our favorite film are released on, there will always be a studio or two who will see extra cashflow potential in double dipping. Either way, you do get the main thing you are buying: the film. It all depends on how badly you want to see the bonus features

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You know what?
I got burned last time with Flags of Our Fathers because when that came out on DVD, knowing full well that Eastwood RARELY if EVER allows for audio commentary extras let alone any decent behind the scenes extra featurettes (though Unforgiven, Bridges, Blood Work and Space Cowboys had some sort of decent featurettes attached) thats over 10 minutes in length, I bought the DVD, figuring, well, I own the definitive version of the film

And then they released it later on with some bonus features

So now comes Gran Torino. A film I went and saw in the theater and loved. I feel it's one of his top ten best works in his career. So, as I said, I went to the theater to support the man's efforts and then I went home to wait for the DVD, which comes out in June.

I saw news today about the upcoming DVD release--which only has two (count them TWO) features .....get this.....about cars and how they help men "bond" or whatever.

Which is fine and dandy since it looks like their obviously going for the "male" market (a market that obviously LOVES cars)
But the ironic thing here (in my opinion) is that the car itself, the Gran Torino,  is just, if anything, a "B" character in the film. (not even that, since it's only seen in maybe ten total minutes in the whole film!)
The film is about so much more than just "cars"

It's about getting along with others and racism and tolerance and violence etc etc etc. To add to my pain is the fact that the DVD  looks to be about 23 bucks!!! And yes, Walmart or similar markets will have it on sale for around 17 bucks if I really go out of my way to search for a deal. (But then they wonder why alot of people are saving money  and just getting a burnt copy from Joe Blow at work. So I have to wait another 7 months or so and see if a double dipped copy with some sort of better bonus features will be included (like behind the scenes of the film, a chat with the screenwriter who did an amazing first draft, a look at the Homung culture (a culture that had more screentime than the CAR)

sigh. Anyone else have the feeling of being slightly ripped off by this news? (Amazon has artwork of the backcover where you can zoom in and read the text of the **cough** bonus features)

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Eastwood News / Re: GRAN TORINO: Reviews and Features in the Media
« on: February 16, 2009, 01:39:23 PM »
Gran Torino nearing the "Top 200 Films of All Time" mark

http://www.the-movie-times.com/thrsdir/alltime.mv?domestic+ByDG+200

But I doubt it will hit the mark, though it's pretty close (It's got 127 million now (Domestic only) and needs just over 12 million more to hit the top 200 of all time. It's bringing in about $ 500,000 per day (still !!!) 

(Though if you combine the world total boxoffice it might already be there)

I believe that's the highest one of Eastwood's films has ever been on the chart (see the link)

Hats off to the man!


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Eastwood News / Re: GRAN TORINO: Reviews and Features in the Media
« on: January 26, 2009, 04:43:51 PM »
I'm no expert but it's still making a million a day so I bet it will be around at least until Oscar night
(which is a shame since they didn't see fit to nominate it for much--seeing as how it has such an underlying message about tolerance and the "Unforgiven"s message of nonviolence)

It will more than likely hit second run theaters by late February and be gone by Spring
My guess is it will quietly be a DVD sometime in the summer (long after Eastwood completes filming The Human factor in Africa)

But again, I'm not an expert but I should think Warners is pretty happy about the millions being dropped off by the truckload out back after giving him (probably) 35 million to make the film

If anyone wants to follow Torino (or some other favortie film) here is a link
http://movies.yahoo.com/mv/boxoffice/daily/

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