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The opening scene where the Stranger rides in to town is my favorite in High Plains Drifter.  Walking into a bar for a drink, the people are already getting restless by his presence.  The whole uneasy feeling he gives off as he rides in silence through town is great.  The second best scene, not surprisingly is when he gets everyone ready for Stacey's gang then mounts up and begins to ride out of town.  The look of utter terror on thier faces from the thought of fighting without the Stranger is powerful and exciting.  

I also like the scene where he takes the cigars and gives the candy to the children in the store.  You are left throughout the entire movie questioning wiether the Stranger is a good guy or an evil guy.  

My college history teacher is a huge movie buff.  I enjoy his classes because he often includes films throughout the term to help grasp the era of study.  He knows a lot about movies, and has hundreds in his collection.  

So after class once I asked him about the Eastwood Westerns.  He grinned and said that they were favorites of his.  We briefly discussed GBU, then he brought up High Plains Drifter.  We talked about that on the way out to the parking lot.  I asked him what he thought about the finale and the identity of the stranger.  

He claimed with what seemed to me absolute certainty, "He's an avenging angel of course, punishing the town for thier deeds."

Not that it proves anything, I just found it interesting that one of my favorite teachers was also a big fan of the same films I enjoy.  I tend to agree with him that it is an avenging angel.  He rides into town and starts to have fun with the job at hand, but the dream seems to be a grim reminder of what he is there to do.  

I always took the dialog with Mordacai in the final abdication from the town to mean something different than the interpretation that he was the Marshal incarnate.  

Coming on the heels of the Man with no name films, the Stranger is somewhat similar to that character.  In GBU Eastwood's character rarely speaks but he communicates so much with his actions and facial expressions, and Tuco never knows his name.  Although uneasy allies, I think they somewhat enjoy working together by the end.  

In this same way, I took the smile coupled with the "Yes, you do" to mean that the Stranger and the midget had become friends by the stranger's actions helping the small guy along to a position of equality by the end of the film.  The unspoken phrase communicated to me by the smile is "You may not know my name, but you are the only person who knew me to a degree and saw my good side."

Hey, I could be way off.  But that is my interpretation.  8)

Eastwood's stance and stare are perfect.  The background town on fire really piques your interest.  I have the older release DVD where this poster is the cover for the DVD.  I do have one gripe with the whole thing.  

The sign, it looks far too detailed and colorful.  For me it detracts from the image that Clint and the burning town portray.  The sign just seems unharmed and out of place.  It seems a bit fancy with all the colors.  I dunno, that's just what I think.  

Eastwood News / Re:Clint Eastwood: Gut Instinct News at Last...
« on: September 24, 2003, 08:55:01 AM »
It airs on October 5th?  Does anyone know what time?  I would very much like to record this.  My thanks and respect go out to the members here who played a hand in the creation.  I know it will be a great special.

Good news, Wal*mart just stocked a bunch of the Clint Eastwood Westerns.  I picked up Joe Kid and Pale Rider for $10 apeice.  You can't beat that price.  So I have more to work with.  I went ahead and showed the GBU to one friend.  He had seen part of it on TV before and was dying to know how it ends.  Now everytime we go out to the bars or whatnot he whistles that theme.  Sometimes someone says "Hey yeah, I know that."  or they look at you funny.  Either way it is entertaining.

Now, here is my list of available movies to show.  

Fistful of Dollars
For a Few Dollars More
The Good The Bad and The Ugly
Joe Kidd
High Plains Drifter
The Outlaw Josey Wales
Pale Rider

( Also own Hang em' High but I don't have that one here at school with me.)

Okay, here is my new thoughts on this considering the inclusion of two other movies.

-Fistfull of Dollars before For a Few Dollars More
-Pale Rider to Follow High Plains Drifter?
-Unforgiven is last
-Outlaw Josey Wales as the starter?

What about this:  

The Outlaw Josey Wales
The Good The Bad and The Ugly
Fistfull of Dollars
For a Few Dollars More
Joe Kidd
High Plains Drifter
Pale Rider

What do you think of that order?  I am easily open to suggestions.  I am thinking about maybe going to a larger scale presentation by getting one of the Video rooms on campus and making fliers for a two night movie marathon.  Anyone who can offer advice or suggestions for that venture would be welcomed to respond as well.  I appreciate all the ideas so far.  You guys are great.

Eastwood News / Re:Eastwood on a Last Ride West?
« on: September 15, 2003, 07:29:57 AM »
 :D  This would be very interesting.  Another Eastwood Western would be welcomed by me any day.  The man with no name charcter could be very wiley and crafty as an old man.  By this point he most likely would not get caught and beaten up as he did in his younger days.  He would know enough about the human psychology to really mess with people and play a bigger chess game with a town than ever before.  Should someone find him out, he might still be quick enough on the draw to take a few guys out along the way as well.  

Unlikely, but still interesting.

You guys make some really good points.  I appreciate what has been said so far, this is exactly the type of feedback I was looking for.  When I made this topic, I was just in the planning stages of this event.  After a trip home for the weekend, I have my Collection here on campus, sans Hang em High.  I decided I'd just skip that one as I'd be lucky to match enough people's schedules to watch the others even.  

I see what you all are saying about GBU starting out slow.  I thought some had said it was actually the prequel to Fistfull and Few Dollars more.  So, that coupled with the fact that it is my favorite made me think to show it first.  

Here is what I know for certain:

-Fistfull of Dollars will be shown before For a Few Dollars More

-Unforgiven will be the finale as it more or less wraps up the whole personification of Eastwood's characters.

What I am unsure of:

-Show GBU before or after the other two Leone films?  

-High Plains Drifter after the Spagetti Trilogy?

-Perhaps Josey Wales as the opening act?

What about this:

The Outlaw Josey Wales
The Good The Bad and The Ugly
Fistfull of Dollars
For a Few Dollars More
High Plains Drifter

That would make for a nice film festival.  Think I should just stick with the small group I was going to show it to, or should I spread out and print some fliers?  Maybe show it in the lounge where many people can come?  Not sure which would be best.  Any further comments are very welcome.  Thanks guys.

This comming week I will be unveiling some of the films in my Eastwood western collection to a sceptical college dorm crowd.  After watching other people's favorite movies, and sharing in some discussion, I've at least (hopefully) gotten them interested in giving Eastwood's westerns a try.  

I've hyped them up pretty well, with good reason of course.  I want some of these kids to realize that these movies are classics, and even though many of them were made decades ago, they are timeless and can be enjoyed at the same level as many of today's greatest films.  

I plan to start them off with my personal favorite, The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly.  However, I am unsure what to show after that if thier interest continues.

Here is what I have in my collection, so it will have to be from this list until I get to Media Play to purchase some more of the recent releases in the Clint Eastwood collection series.

Fistfull of Dollars
For a Few Dollars More
The Good The Bad and The Ugly (Showing first)
Hang em High
High Plains Drifter
The Outlaw Josey Wales

I know that collection is incomplete, but it is a decent start.  I think Hang em High should be saved for last if anyone is still around after all the others.  Do you agree, should I begin with GBU?  Then I was thinking of showing OJW second followed by FFDM and HPD?  Then FFD and finally Unforgiven?  

I am unsure what would be the best order to show these in.  Any suggestions are welcome.  I hope at least a few people will come to appreciate the films the same way I do.

Clint Eastwood Westerns / Re: Favourite Clint Western
« on: September 11, 2003, 07:32:22 AM »
I have to disagree with stating that the war scenes in GBU are unecessary.  There was a war going on, and these characters were trying to avoid it while traveling great distances for treasure.  Tuco kills the Union guard and makes his escape from the train to return to his partnership with Blondie.  Blondie has to put up with Angel Eyes and his gang until he can figure out a way to take them down.  

If the movie flowed without those scenes and went from confrontation to confrontation and right to the final scene at the cemetary you would not have appreciated it nearly as much.  They all craved the treasure, and nothing, not even the Civil War would stop them from getting to it.  

Angel Eyes joined up with the Union because as far as he knew, Bill Carson still was the only one to know the treasure's location.  He knew carson was a Confederate soldier, so he figured working for the union he could kill and maim and hunt for Carson all in one nifty little package.

The Union Captain's scene is an important one.  Look down through there at all the men he was ordered to send in a charge.  He knew many of them would not survive it.  He still had to follow orders as a military man.  He got drunk in an attempt to handle his dispair.  Blondie and Tuco grant the man his dying wish, to see that bridge destroyed so at least for then, he would not lose anymore of his boys.  He took his last breath happily.  

Blondie's aquisition of the poncho is also a touching scene.  There we see a rebel boy choking for air as he bleeds to death.  Blondie stops and does the only thing he knows to do, cover the boy up, keep him warm and give him a puff of his cigar.  He leaves his jacket with the lad and takes the poncho from the wreaked church.  

Tuco's scenes at the gunshop, hotels and other places are all about thievery and lying and killing.  But even this man has some heart and a brother somewhere that cares for him at the mission.  

All of these scenes are there to further develop the trio before the grand finale in the Sad Hill Cemetary.  Where no matter what your background, or your morals, The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly alike all have a desire for gold.  

This movie is indeed a masterpeice.  I can only hope that I can see the version with restored footage someday.    

Clint Eastwood Westerns / Re:clint on dubbing GBU
« on: August 01, 2003, 07:05:50 PM »
Just as a side question, will there be any other chances for me to see this redone version of the film?  The last time it was supposedly going to be on AMC again I cleared my schedule and got all set with snacks and sodas and pizza and it was just the usual edited for time television version.  

I missed the first airing of the redone film and I am beginning to think I may never get to see it.  GBU is one of my all time favorite movies.  Sometimes I think it is my favorite movie over all others.  It would be nice if there was a new DVD release for this version.  It is one film I would not mind buying another version of.  

I really am interested in seeing the dubbed scenes.  If anyone has any info that would be great.  Maybe someone taped it and I could get a copy off them at the cost of a tape?  I dunno, just an idea.  Sorry to move off the main path of the topic, just seemed like an okay place to ask this.  

Thanks for the info Stranger.

Eastwood News / Re:New Dollar trilogy dvdbox
« on: August 01, 2003, 06:21:15 PM »
I got this set when it was released here in North America.  I am glad my Australian friends can finally purchase the same great set.  

Eastwood News / Re:"Clint doesn't want to act anymore"
« on: August 01, 2003, 05:42:20 PM »
Swartzeneggar made Terminator 3
Stallone is supposedly working on Rocky 6
I hear Bruce Willis will do another Die Hard

These big name stars are doing sequals to the series' that put them on the map.  If Eastwood is seriously going to step out of the view of the camera, I'd be great if he came back for one big name movie as a final hurrah at least.  I know as well as anyone else that it is unlikely, but who wouldn't love a Final Dirty Harry or a great Western to say goodbye to his fantastic acting career.  

Whatever he does, I will remain a fan nonetheless.  I only wish we got something more than the decent but not outstanding Blood Work as a finale.  

Clint Eastwood Westerns / Re:Eastwood's cigar
« on: August 01, 2003, 04:52:04 PM »
Are these cigars available in the United States?  I think it'd be kinda neat to try one of these.

Clint Eastwood Westerns / Re:"No Name" films,...then who is Manco?
« on: August 01, 2003, 04:34:04 PM »
I never noticed that left handed thing before, that is really cool.  I will have to watch for that next time I sit down to re-watch them.

Eastwood News / Re:Escape from Alcatraz
« on: July 07, 2003, 09:32:43 PM »
I have seen Alcatraz twice in my life when they ran it on television.  I really enjoyed the film.  I saw the DVD at Best Buy awhile back but there was something else I wanted that day.  The next time I went with the intent to purchase it was gone.  It seems to be a scarce find on top of being a rather extra-feature-less release.  That was the only time I had ever seen it in a store before.  

General Discussion / Eastwood films on DVD at Great Prices
« on: June 26, 2003, 11:07:17 AM »

I was at Best Buy the other day and I found that they are selling an Eastwood Movie collection two pack of The Gauntlet and True Crime for only $11.99.  They also had Hang 'em High, Fistfull of Dollars, For a Few Dollars More, and The Good The Bad and The Ugly for $9.99 each.  Pretty decent prices for these films if you lack any of them in your collection.  

I already had the westerns, but the two pack was a nice way to pick up those two films for fairly cheap.  Just thought I would give a heads up since it was a such a good deal.  

[ANSWER to Question asked to me]

I would show The Outlaw Josey Wales or perhaps Escape from Alcatraz.  These are both good films that may make someone have a change of heart about Eastwood.  The best thing would be to find out what misconception the person had about Eastwood.  If they thought he was all Cop movies then I'd stay away from Dirty Harry series or the Gauntlet as an Introduction movie.  If they thought he was all Westerns then maybe Josey Wales wouldn't be the best choice.  Alcatraz seems to get anyone's attention with the whol plot of Jailbreak.  Then slowly introduce other films that shocase the best of Eastwood's acting coupled with the best plots.  That is what I would do to re-introduce the non-Eastwood fan to his work.

( Just a Side note - I had final Exams at College because I am on the Trimester system.. I had four long Term Papers to write as well.  That explains my absense.  Thanks for the note though.  I really appreciated it.  I hope to gte back into the discussions here.  You guys are all great.)

I watched it Saturday at 5PM, and was sorely disappointed to find the regular television edited version with scenes cut out of it.  Tuco picks a revolver and goes with it.  In the full version he plays around with three of them and uses parts to make one that suits him best.  Sao many small scenes were cut altogetehr to make it fit the televised time slot.  And I am certain the part of Tuco running through the cemetary at the end was run at a faster pace than normal because It almost gave me motion sickness watching it and I know it doesn't go that fast on my DVD of the film.  

I do hope to find out when they run the full cut with remastered deleted scenes again.  I really want to see it and maybe tape it.

Clint Eastwood Westerns / Re:Goofs in For A Few Dollars More
« on: May 17, 2003, 10:49:52 PM »
I am also interested in this.  If anyone can provide some screen captures to look at it would be most appreciated.  

First let me thank everyone for sharing thier stories, I have found them all very interesting.  I have one of my own, hopefully you will find it interesting as well.

I am 22 years old, so I don't recall much of anything that happened to me before around 1984 or so.  Anyway, just saying that I am probably younger than most of the fans here, but still a devoted fan nonetheless.  

Anyway, how I first became interested.  Once, on a Sunday afternoon when I was around nine or ten years old I was playing around in the house making noise and otherwise frustrating my father.  He told me to sit down on the couch and shutup.  He stopped on one channel and said I should watch a movie with him that was about to come on.

While the comercials were running he told me about how Grandpa had loved westerns and how he liked them a lot too.  He said they were entertaining to watch.  I sat there through the story and thought of what I coud have been doing had I stayed in my room.  Every other western he had made me watch had seemed really corney to me because the villians always missed and they'd have campy music and unrealistic sets in the films.  

What was this film?  "The Good the Bad and The Ugly"?  "What the heck is this nonsense?"  I thought to myself.  But, the music seemed kinda cool to me in some odd way.  I started to get up and sneak out of the room.  My dad told me to sit back down and relax.  So I gave in and sat there.

Next thing I knew this unknown guy played by Eastwood was shooting the noose off of Tuco's neck and collecting money again and again.  I thought "Wow, that guy is pretty creative with that little scheme."  Then I just decided to watch, people were dying and the plot was getting thicker with a promise of buried Gold from the lips of a dying Bill Carson.  

I was hooked, I watched the movie all the way through until the end.  My dad had long since fallen asleep, as he tends to do on Sunday afternoons, but I still sat there and watched.  The awesome three way showdown at the end and the music, oh the music fit perfectly and set the mood all the way through.  Eastwood had given that poor confederate soldier a puff on his cigar before the lad died.  They had blown the bridge and granted the dying Union Captain his last request.  Would Tuco and Blondie turn on each other at the end?  I wondered how things would turn out.  

I smiled and laughed at the end the way Blondie ended things.  I was so impressed, I thought then, and probably still think now that it is the best western I've ever seen.  

Then when it was all over, I sat there feeling satisfied that Eastwood had delivered a film that, as another member here put so gracefully, "Hit the spot."

The Television then said to stay tuned to see "For a Few Dollars More."  I watched that one too, and ever after I was hooked.  

One regret I have is when Unforgiven hit theaters.  I begged my dad to let me go with him to see it at the theater, but he was going with some friends for work and did not take me.  Another six years went by before I ever actually got to see it.  But I had seen almost all of his other westerns by then.  

I forgot to mention Dirty Harry, I got into those too.  They also played a big part in making me an Eastwood fan.  It is sad that so many kids today do not appreciate Eastwood or even know much of his work.  I was converted by my Dad, and I now collect the films on DVD.  Eastwood is without a doubt my favorite actor now.  That just about wraps it up I guess, I've gone on long enough with this "Short" story.   ;D  

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