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The CEWB Movie Club / Re: Rear Window (1954)
« on: October 13, 2018, 06:13:29 PM »

This is the turning point of the movie, where Jeff attains near-certainty of Thorwald's guilt, and where most spectators will be similarly convinced. In a movie some analysts have declared to be mostly about voyeurism, it's very ingenious of Hitchcock to make such a point of showing us these now-familiar characters so much closer than usual, then have the focus of the scene be on something we DON'T see.

 O0 That's a great point! 

The CEWB Movie Club / Re: Sabotage (1936)
« on: October 13, 2018, 06:06:12 PM »
I tried to watch this yesterday, and I couldn't get through it. It didn't hold my interest at all. I watched it for about a half an hour, which given the short runtime, was almost half the movie, and it wasn't immediately clear to me what the plot of the movie even was or who the main characters were that I was supposed to be caring about. Very disappointing.

I don't really blame you for giving up on this one. But, the second half is better and makes the film worthwhile. But, the film does look and feel its age.

The CEWB Movie Club / Rebecca (1940)
« on: October 13, 2018, 06:04:34 PM »

This is the discussion thread for Rebecca (1940). Discuss anything about the film that you'd like to!

The CEWB Movie Club / Re: Sabotage (1936)
« on: October 13, 2018, 05:59:50 PM »

Finally, from "Alfred Hitchcock on his Films: Interview with Huw Whelden," originally published in The Listener, August 6, 1964, 18990:

I don't think many people want reality, whether it is in the theatre or in a film. It must look real, but it must never be real, because reality is something none of us can stand, at any time.

Thanks for posting these KC.  I especially like that last bit -- that's pretty heavy. This scene seems so tame now (though still shocking), compared to the "reality" we've gotten used to in modern films.

The CEWB Movie Club / Re: Sabotage (1936)
« on: October 13, 2018, 05:52:44 PM »
On the other hand, "Wear.," in Variety (March 3, 1937) ...

I agree with this review. Wish I could write a review like that.

The CEWB Movie Club / Re: Sabotage (1936)
« on: October 13, 2018, 05:16:03 PM »

I much prefer the title Sabotage to A Woman Alone. My only quibble is it isn't apparent why Mr Verloc, is mixed up with these terrorists and what is behind their sabotage around London.

I assumed he was in it for the money (their theater was failing).  I read that Verloc's first name in the novel the film was based on (The Secret Agent by Joseph Conrad) was "Adolf", and the screenwriter Charles Bennett felt it was important to change that so it didn't appear to be connected in any way to Nazi Germany. In any case, the terrorists just wanted to terrorize because that's what terrorists do.

(And right now, my dog is terrorizing me, because that's what she does. So I'd better cut this post short so I can see what she wants!)

The CEWB Movie Club / Re: Sabotage (1936)
« on: October 10, 2018, 09:57:23 PM »
I could post some excerpts from interviews with Hitchcock where he discusses "THE SCENE," if anyone's curious. I could also post an excerpt from a contemporary review demonstrating that the concept of "spoiler" wasn't around when this film was released.

(From a big Hitchcock project I worked on back in the 1990s ... I found where I put the text files we used.)

I'd be interested!  :)

The CEWB Movie Club / Re: Sabotage (1936)
« on: October 10, 2018, 09:01:50 AM »

"The Woman Alone" doesn't really fit the film, though. Mrs. Verlock was never alone -- she had her husband and her co-workers at the theater, and then the very interested Detective Spencer. I think Sabotage is a fine name, but can be confusing since Hitch released Saboteur a handful of years later (which I think is a much better film).

I'm going to spoil this movie -- so if you haven't seen it, don't read the rest of this post. It's impossible to have a film discussion and not discuss "the scene".



I once read somewhere that one thing you don't do in films is kill an innocent child or a dog. Hitchcock takes out two with one blast. I did NOT see it coming. I really thought it was a big build-up, but the bomb wouldn't go off, or something would intervene to prevent it, or at the very least that the boy would deliver it and be safely away when it blew. I especially thought it wasn't going to go off when they showed the clock tick one minute past the scheduled time. You just don't see this happening in films, and it was so unexpected, even after all that build-up, that it was the highlight of the movie for me. I did read that Hitch said it was the one scene he'd do over again (under public scrutiny), but the film wouldn't really have had anything going for it if he had. Maybe in the 1930's it would have still been considered a good film, even without "the scene", but 80 years later, it wouldn't stand up or be memorable at all.

The CEWB Movie Club / Re: Sabotage (1936)
« on: October 09, 2018, 07:02:00 PM »
Well, I hope what I said was vague enough not to be a spoiler! (If you don't think so, we can delete these three posts.)

No, not at all. And we don't have a lot of people participating, so we can spoil it soon anyway!

The CEWB Movie Club / Re: Rear Window (1954)
« on: October 09, 2018, 07:00:03 PM »
I just watched Rear Window for the I-don't-know-how-many-th time, and caught something I don't think I ever noticed before. Almost all the film is shot from within Jeff's apartment, with the camera looking at him, or looking at Lisa or Stella or Doyle from his point of view, or looking out the window, again from Jeff's point of view as he studies the exploits of his neighbors. As Doug said a few posts up ...
But there is one scene when Hitchcock breaks out and actually takes the camera up close so we can see the neighbors more clearly ... shifting from a subjective to an objective point of view, if you will. It's a key scene in the movie, maybe THE key scene in the movie, and it involves not something we see, but something we don't see.

Does anyone know the scene I mean?

We are ready for the big reveal!

The CEWB Movie Club / Re: Rear Window (1954)
« on: October 09, 2018, 06:58:43 PM »
He wrote music for Alvin and the Chipmunks?! :D

More than that -- he was the creator of the Chipmunks, and the original voice of all three Chipmunks!

The CEWB Movie Club / Re: Sabotage (1936)
« on: October 09, 2018, 06:57:09 PM »
I haven't re-watched it yet, but I know it has a classic Hitchcock suspense scene, which ends differently from what audiences probably expected.

Yes, that is the best scene and the one I was mentioning above that I wanted to avoid spoiling... at least for a little longer while we let everyone have time to watch.

The CEWB Movie Club / Re: Rear Window (1954)
« on: October 08, 2018, 11:32:47 AM »
I'm intrigued to find out now.

In case you had any trouble (you could have probably looked on the back of one of your favorite albums):

The CEWB Movie Club / Re: Sabotage (1936)
« on: October 07, 2018, 10:18:49 AM »
Oh boy -- I wanted to love this, but I just didn't. The sound quality was so bad I needed to watch it with subtitles (I read that the copyright holder failed to renew their copyright and it fell into public domain and now anyone at all can record and sell this movie so it's often not a good print or poor sound quality).  There was one scene that I really liked, and it surprised me -- but I don't want to post spoilers until others have seen it, so I'll discuss that later.

I didn't dislike it, but I didn't love it. I didn't feel it was one of Hitchcock's best, but it was still okay, and a decent film from the 30's.

The CEWB Movie Club / Re: Rear Window (1954)
« on: October 06, 2018, 04:10:10 PM »
I wanted to just give a little appreciation for the red circle filter Hitchcock used to show us Thorwald's point of view after Jeff's flashbulb blinds him. (Wait, that isn't from Jeff's point of view - could it be the shot KC was referring to?)

It might look a little bit cheesy today, but if you've been blinded by a flash in a dark room, it brings back memories of what you really do see within those few seconds of adjustment. So I thought it was very effectively done.

The CEWB Movie Club / Re: Rear Window (1954)
« on: October 06, 2018, 03:58:19 PM »
Is it? It's still as seen from Jeff's apartment -- though the camera is zoomed in closer and Lisa and Jeff aren't looking through binoculars or the camera lens. We don't see anything in that shot that couldn't be seen from Jeff's vantage point.

The CEWB Movie Club / Sabotage (1936)
« on: October 06, 2018, 02:24:06 PM »

This is the discussion thread for Sabotage (aka The Woman Alone). Discuss anything about the film that you'd like to!

The CEWB Movie Club / Re: Rear Window (1954)
« on: October 06, 2018, 02:15:40 PM »
Going back to the Hitchcock cameo -- Christopher might be interested in knowing what the pianist/composer did with his life after Rear Window.

It's music related (if you can call it that).

The CEWB Movie Club / Re: Rear Window (1954)
« on: October 06, 2018, 01:43:02 PM »

Okay, I give up! I even scanned through it again. The only scenes that we see the neighbors closer up is through Jeff's telephoto camera lens.

The CEWB Movie Club / Re: Rear Window (1954)
« on: October 06, 2018, 09:18:15 AM »
 ;D Literally laughed out loud at Maude Flanders' explanation of where she was for a week. This is awesome. Thanks for posting!

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