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Questions & Answers / Re:Anybody read the novel Blood Work?
« on: December 19, 2002, 09:57:54 PM »
No, it doesn't, Lucas ... the whole ending is very different, as is the killer's identity.

In the book, the final confrontation between McCaleb and the killer takes place on a deserted beach in Mexico. Not a ship in sight ... hypertrophied or otherwise.


Collectors' Corner / Re:Josey Wales revolver
« on: December 19, 2002, 08:33:13 PM »
I note it was bought by a "Live Action Floor Bidder," not by an Internet bidder.  8)


Questions & Answers / Re:I got a question for ya.
« on: December 19, 2002, 07:52:45 PM »
It's a voice from the past ...

It doesn't really matter, does it?  ;)


Questions & Answers / Re:Capturing DVD images
« on: December 19, 2002, 07:42:35 PM »
You may need special software ... I assume you're asking about capturing images from a DVD-ROM drive in your computer, as opposed to from a "regular" DVD player?

I found that no screen capture program I had would work with the InterVideo WinDVD software player that came with my computer, so I downloaded Hyperionics' HyperSnapDX. You can download a trial version for free, then purchase a license for $35. Hyperionics explains here why it can be tricky to do caps from DVDs or other video that plays on your computer, and describes in detail how to make their program perform the task in many instances.

Remember, the trial version is free, so if it doesn't work with your setup, you're not out any dough ... and you can still try getting another software player.

I hope it helps.


General Discussion / Re: Favorite Eastwood Quotes and One-Liners
« on: December 19, 2002, 07:10:12 AM »
Scene is near the end when Clint is about to kill Gene Hackman: Hackman exclaims that he doesn't deserve to die like this. Clint responds:  ".....Deserves got nothin' to do with it."
"Funny thing killing a man...take away all he's got...and all he's ever gonna have."
"Yeah I killed women and children. I reckon I've killed everything that walks or crawls, at one point or another."
"Anybody who doesn't feel like dyin' should move on out the back." "......or I'll come back and kill all of ya."
Gene Hackman: "You just shot an unarmed man!" ... Clint Eastwood: "Well he should have armed himself."  

Here are the correct versions of the Unforgiven quotes. Man's gonna put up a web page on Eastwood, he should at least get the dialogue right.

LITTLE BILL: I don't deserve this ... to die like this. I was building a house!

MUNNY:Deserve's got nothin' to do with it!
MUNNY:It's a hell of a thing, killin' a man. You take away all he's got, and all he's ever gonna have.
MUNNY: That's right ... I've killed women and children. Killed just about everything that walks or crawls at one time or another. And I'm here to kill you, Little Bill, for what you did to Ned.
MUNNY: Any man don't want to get killed, better clear on out the back.
MUNNY: You'd better bury Ned right! You'd better not cut up nor otherwise harm no whores! Or I'll come back and kill every one of you sons of b*[email protected]
LITTLE BILL: Well, sir, you are a cowardly son of a b!tch. You just shot an unarmed man!

MUNNY: Well, he shoulda armed himself, if he's gonna decorate his saloon with my friend.


General Discussion / Re:Hypertrophic devices - William Beard
« on: December 18, 2002, 07:56:17 PM »
n. pl. hy·per·tro·phies
A nontumorous enlargement of an organ or a tissue as a result of an increase in the size rather than the number of constituent cells: muscle hypertrophy.

intr. & tr.v. hy·per·tro·phied, hy·per·tro·phy·ing, hy·per·tro·phies
To grow or cause to grow abnormally large.


The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition. Copyright © 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company.

Mr. Beard was speaking metaphorically. His metaphor was drawn from physiology. ;)

The metaphor of "hypertrophy" seems to be fashionable in present day academic writing on film. If you haven't encountered it ... consider yourself lucky, you haven't been reading much of the stuff.

Nevertheless, Beard's book is good and he has a good point, which might be made a little plainer if we take a look at an image ...

I'd say "hypertrophic" is an accurate a word as I could think of to describe that ... thing Harry is holding. It's all the more appropriate if you recall how frequently people in Eastwood's films ... and people commenting on them ... relate a weapon to a portion of the male anatomy. (My, that's a big one.)

Returning to Lucas's post, I think that's a good observation with regard to the ending of Blood Work. You might look back towards the beginning of the film and note another "hypertrophic" ship metaphor, namely the Queen Mary, one of the great ships of modern history ... now lying immobile in the harbor of Long Beach, California, in the background of McCaleb's daily life in his enforced retirement. So, excluding the prologue in which McCaleb was felled by the heart attack, the film comes full circle in terms of its visual metaphors, as Eastwood likes to do with the beginnings and endings of so many of his films.                  


« on: December 18, 2002, 07:43:50 AM »
And they only have four in stock  :o ... so order yours now! (More coming soon.)


General Discussion / Re:Eastwood as auteur -
« on: December 18, 2002, 07:41:32 AM »
Lucas, see Schickel's Eastwood biography, p. 390-391, for confirmation of what Matt says.  We included Tightrope among the films directed by Eastwood in the Filmography of Clint Eastwood: Interviews ... I think that was a first.


Trivia Games / Re:Eastwood Quotes
« on: December 18, 2002, 01:26:06 AM »
Hmm Gant ... if it were said by Sondra  :o ... it wouldn't be in the "Eastwood quotes" thread ... would it?  ;)


Clint Eastwood Westerns / Re:Eastwood westerns on DVD
« on: December 17, 2002, 09:43:48 PM »
Most, but not all of them are, Larzz ... see this thread.


Clint Eastwood Westerns / Re:Question about the f-word(from Unforgiven)
« on: December 17, 2002, 09:18:02 PM »
Why, shore, Antipatros ... here are a few.

Oh, fudge!

Shoot! Shucks! CRAP!

Golly gee! Gosh darn it all anyway!

Dag nab it!

I don't give a freakin' gol darn!

Lots of other good ones ... none of which are heard in Unforgiven (except maybe the edited-for-TV version). If anyone is interested in continuing this train of thought, perhaps it had better be down in the Off Topic forum. ;)


Questions & Answers / Re:Mortimer's BIG gun
« on: December 17, 2002, 08:59:21 PM »
According to Spaghetti Western maven Christopher Frayling (Spaghetti Westerns, rev. ed., London: I.B. Tauris, 1998, p. 169) the gun is a "Buntline Special (Uberti reproduction model, with detachable shoulder-stock)."

The "Buntline Special" is a name commonly given to a Colt revolver with a 16 inch barrel.

Its nickname is an allusion to the pulp writer "Ned Buntline" (pen name of Edward Zane Carroll Judson), who allegedly gave five oversized weapons (usually described as having 12-inch barrels) to Wyatt Earp and four of his Dodge City peace officer colleagues in 1876, to reward them "for the color they supplied" in his Western stories ... according to journalist Stuart N. Lake in his 1931 Wyatt Earp: Frontier Marshal.

This story is, however, thoroughly debunked by William B. Shillingberg in his article "Wyatt Earp and the 'Buntline Special' Myth" (Kansas Historical Quarterly, Summer 1976 (Vol. 42, No. 2), pages 113 to 154 ... which I just happen to have pulled up on the Internet, at .

Apparently ... Colt did manufacture a limited number of Peacemakers with 16-inch barrels (though none with 12-inch barrels) ... and the detachable skeleton stock formed part of the Colt exhibit at the Philadelphia World's Fair of 1876, where Buntline might have seen it. But there is no evidence that he ever owned or gave such a gun to Wyatt Earp or anyone else.

Oh well ... Print the legend!  8)

Clint Eastwood Westerns / Re:Question about the f-word(from Unforgiven)
« on: December 17, 2002, 01:53:40 AM »
Who's in a "mood," Doug? I hope I don't sound touchy ... but I guess we have strayed a bit off topic.  :-\

Anyway, if anyone has any more documentary evidence of how cowboys, ranch hands, sheriffs and outlaws actually talked in the nineteenth century, and what terms they favored when they were in a "profane" mood ... please do post it here!


Clint Eastwood Westerns / Re:Question about the f-word(from Unforgiven)
« on: December 17, 2002, 12:53:39 AM »
Well, it should be clear that English didn't evolve from any form of what we think of as German, but from a remote "West Germanic" ancestor. English has more in common with Dutch, evolutionarily speaking, than it does with modern German.

Here's a link to a tree of the Germanic languages (modern German is shown as "High German, New").


Questions & Answers / Re:"Which Way" soundtracks
« on: December 17, 2002, 12:12:27 AM »
I've never heard of them being on CD ... I'm pretty sure those two films, unlike 1989's Pink Cadillac, were released before CD became the dominant format for recorded music. Doesn't mean they couldn't have been re-released on CD, but I don't think they were.


Clint Eastwood Westerns / Re:Question about the f-word(from Unforgiven)
« on: December 16, 2002, 10:05:45 PM »
Actually, both modern German and modern English evolved from common roots ... along with Dutch, Swedish, Norwegian, Danish, Icelandic, and a few others. They are all "Germanic languages."

The "f-word" in modern German is so similar to the word in English that it's obvious they are "cognates" ... meaning they derive from a common Germanic root. But the English word doesn't "come" (so to speak) from the German word, or of course ... vice versa.  ::)

As far as I know (Antipatros can correct me if I'm wrong) the "f-word" (or forms of it) doesn't get thrown around as a curse word in modern German the way it does in English. Germans are more likely to use the "s-word." As for the Swedes, Norwegians and Danes ... they eschew the words for sexual activity and the scatological words altogether when they really want to curse. Instead, they invoke various words meaning "Hell" and "Devil."  :o

Andere Länder—andere Sitten!  ;)


Clint Eastwood Westerns / Re:Eastwood westerns on DVD
« on: December 16, 2002, 07:49:49 PM »
Hi, Larzz ... I see you're in the Netherlands. You're lucky you could get Two Mules for Sister Sara ... it's not available on Region One DVD as yet.

I think of the Eastwood Western "canon" as comprising ten films ... no more, no less. ;)

Three by Leone:
  • A Fistful of Dollars (1964)
  • For a Few Dollars More (1965)
  • The Good, the Bad and the Ugly (1966)
Three by "other directors":
  • Hang 'em High (Ted Post, 1967)
  • Two Mules for Sister Sara (Don Siegel, 1972)
  • Joe Kidd (John Sturges, 1972)
And four by Eastwood himself:
  • High Plains Drifter (1973)
  • The Outlaw Josey Wales (1976)
  • Pale Rider (1985)
  • Unforgiven (1992)
I don't think of the other films you mention as Westerns. Paint Your Wagon is a musical comedy, but since it does have Western themes and is set in the West during the Gold Rush, it might belong in a really comprehensive Western collection.

On the other hand, I can't fit The Beguiled into the Western genre at all. It has nothing of the themes, motives or genre commonplaces of the Western except for its general chronology; it's set during the American Civil War. But so is Gone with the Wind ... and few would consider that a Western.


Questions & Answers / Re:Why Can't I Come In?
« on: December 16, 2002, 07:36:28 AM »
Hi, Daisy, sorry you are having trouble. You're not the only one, believe me ... all three of the Moderators were having similar troubles last week. I could get in only sporadically from Sunday through midweek, and Matt was out altogether until the weekend, at least using his own server. mgk has also been out for a whole week now and is just starting to see the site once in a while.

It all has to do with the Domain Name having been transferred and just "resolving." In some areas, that resolution takes longer to be finalized than in others. You can read a bit more about it in this thread.

I don't know if you have your PMs set up so you can see them in your e-mail, but I'll PM this to you too, just in case.


Questions & Answers / Re:What's NOT on dvd
« on: December 16, 2002, 01:05:00 AM »
OK ... here goes. First, what IS on DVD (Region One):
  • A Fistful of Dollars
  • For a Few Dollars More
  • The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
  • Hang 'em High
  • Paint Your Wagon
  • Kelly's Heroes
  • The Beguiled
  • Play Misty for Me
  • Dirty Harry
  • Joe Kidd
  • High Plains Drifter
  • Magnum Force
  • Thunderbolt and Lightfoot
  • The Eiger Sanction
  • The Outlaw Josey Wales
  • The Enforcer
  • The Gauntlet
  • Every Which Way but Loose
  • Escape from Alcatraz
  • Bronco Billy
  • Any Which Way You Can
  • Firefox
  • Sudden Impact
  • Pale Rider
  • Heartbreak Ridge
  • The Dead Pool
  • Bird
  • Unforgiven
  • In the Line of Fire
  • A Perfect World
  • The Bridges of Madison County
  • Absolute Power
  • Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil
  • True Crime
  • Space Cowboys
  • Blood Work (announced for Dec. 27)
Next, what still is NOT on DVD (Region One):
  • The Witches
  • Coogan's Bluff
  • Where Eagles Dare (unconfirmed release date March 15, 2003)
  • Two Mules for Sister Sara
  • Breezy
  • Honkytonk Man
  • Tightrope
  • City Heat
  • Pink Cadillac
  • White Hunter, Black Heart
  • The Rookie

Discussion Board Troubleshooting / Re:Attn: All Old-timer Newbies
« on: December 15, 2002, 11:30:04 PM »
I'm guessing your strikeout total is nowhere near as high as his, either?  :P ;) :D

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