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Trivia Games / Re:15 Questions ... the sequel!
« on: January 17, 2003, 10:22:04 PM »
Sorry to leave you waiting so long Matt!  :o

Is it a Western?  :D

Clint has made a right/wrong move to bring back Philo Beddoe for a third "which way" project. He has insisted that you are the person for the screenplay and wants a five line premise to show the head of the studio. How would you bring everyone back and approach this most difficult task?
Sorry, Philo, I have to answer this one the way Matt did the one about Clint as a drag queen or "biker butch" ... if he came to me for this screenplay, I'd have to be honest and tell him not only would I not do it, but if he wanted my advice, he really should think about retiring before he even considered anything of the sort.  :o

And, even if he then turned around and somehow managed to find someone else to undertake the writing chores, I don't think the project would get off the ground unless he were willing to work with Sondra Locke again (and she with him) ... because who else could be lovely and talented enough in that role?  ::)

A couple of tags...
If Eastwood were coming to New York to visit you what restaurant would you take him to?
What is it about Eastwood and dinner out with me? This is the second time I've had a tag in this line ... ;) Well, I wouldn't take him to one of the fancy French places, even assuming he'd be asking me to "sit back and start asking like a girl" when the check arrived. I'd be nervous enough just to be in his company without wondering if I was picking up the wrong fork or something (not that Clint would look down his nose at me on that account, but the waiters would).

So, if he likes Greek food, I'd probably take him to my neighborhood Greek restaurant, the Greek Kitchen on Tenth Avenue ... or if he was in the mood for hearty American fare with a Southwest accent, we could go to Route 66, a diner-like affair on Ninth Avenue.

Both places might appeal to him for extraculinary reasons ... The Greek Kitchen is right across the street from John Jay College, the "police academy" branch of the City University of New York. And Route 66 would remind him of the 50s TV show by the same name, which starred his old Army buddy Martin Milner ... Both are also conveniently close to my place, and neither has great desserts, so I could suggest we come back here for coffee and dessert afterwards ... I know he'd also like to take a look at my collection of Eastwood lobby cards!  8) ;)

I read that you don’t watch too much tv but I am hoping you know a couple of game shows. Imagine Clint as a host of an existing (one that aired or is currently on the air) game show… Clint would be hosting ______ (fill in the blank) and tell us why. ;)  (hope you say Jeopardy, because that's my favorite one ;D)
Sorry, Xichado, but I have to beg off this one. I wasn't exaggerating, I really do not watch TV AT ALL unless it's something to do with Clint, or baseball (and once in a great while, an old movie). I can honestly say I've never seen a game show in all my adult life. Maybe you'd like to give me another tag, and let someone else have this one.

Since I didn't answer Xichado's, I guess I just owe three new tags ...

mgk: if you could have one animal from any of Clint's movies as a pet, which one would you take? (It would be young and healthy and have all its shots, of course ... and be housebroken. ;) )

Matt: I can't blame you for answering Xichado's tag the way you did, but can you imagine him wanting to play a gay role, but a perfectly ordinary person (or extraordinary, the way Clint's characters are always extraordinary)? If you were his manager and he asked whether he should play a character who seemed right for him in every way except for being openly gay, would you advise him to take the part?

Maybe the guy would be, oh I don't know, an ex-bank robber who teamed up with a handsome young kid for one last job ... ;)

Daisy: If you could journey back to 1968 and get yourself cast in one of the female roles in Where Eagles Dare, would you rather be Mary or Heidi? Or would you write yourself a third part ... one where you might have a little more ... interaction with Lt. Schaffer?

Eastwood News / Re:Eastwood lures back WB exec
« on: January 16, 2003, 10:13:41 PM »
Considering that the source of that item is Variety, the showbiz Bible, it's odd that Joe Hyams's name is spelled incorrectly ... I checked the Variety site (no link, as it's for-pay only), and it's correct there, so maybe Yahoo picked it up early before an edit was done.  ::)

According to the introduction to David Thomson's 1984 interview with Eastwood (Film Comment, Sept./Oct. 1984), Hyams's job at Warners, at the time, was as "an executive 'with special responsibility for keeping Clint happy.'"  ;)

General Discussion / Re:Unforgiven - original title Cut-Throat Wss
« on: January 16, 2003, 06:11:30 PM »
"Cut-throat whores?" That doesn't even make sense ...  ???

A murderer, especially one who cuts throats.

The American Heritage ® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition. Copyright © 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company.

The whores may be ruthless, but they're not cutthroats; it's one of their number who has been cut ... everything but her throat (and her, well, Munny says it, I won't). Everything above her throat, anyway.

According to Schickel (Clint Eastwood, p. 452), the title of Peoples's screenplay when Eastwood first saw it in 1983 was The Cut-Whore Killings. Eastwood changed it to Unforgiven, after asking Peoples' permission, when he finally put it into production in 1991. Sometime in between it was given the working title The William Munny Killings; I have a "production draft" screenplay dated 1984 that bears that title.


Clint Eastwood Westerns / Re:The future of Big Whiskey
« on: January 16, 2003, 07:21:42 AM »
The poor guy's minus an eye!

Clint Eastwood Westerns / Re:The future of Big Whiskey
« on: January 16, 2003, 01:01:16 AM »
I remembered there already is a carpentry shop in Big Whiskey ... or at least there is the establishment of F.D. O'Dell, Mortician, which also has signs advertising "Carpenter" and "Undertaker." Oh well, I'm sure there'd be plenty of work for two ... Beauchamp can go into partnership there ... ;)

General Discussion / Re: Favorite Eastwood Quotes and One-Liners
« on: January 16, 2003, 12:36:29 AM »
I think Munny has an equal share in the dialogue in that scene, Doug .... only we can't quote it here, because it's in his face, the tone of his voice, and his gestures.

Watch him especially when he stands near the door ... outside that door, we can barely make out the tree that marks Claudia's grave, and sometimes the gravestone itself.  And every time he turns to look out that way, we know he's thinking of her.

I love that scene.


Clint Eastwood Westerns / Re:The future of Big Whiskey
« on: January 16, 2003, 12:32:32 AM »
Nightwing ...   ::)

I just know who's gonna be last!  >:(


But seriously, folks ... Or, sort of seriously ... ;)

I think the women will take over the leadership in the town. Charlie Hecker doesn't want any part of being a deputy any more, he's going to go out to the Bar T and see if he can take over the job of one of the two cowboys they've recently lost under such tragic circumstances. Maybe Alice will take on the role of sheriff herself.

Maybe the women will turn Greely's into a meeting house for the teetotalers' movement ...  they'll change the name of the town to Temperance, and travelers will be required to check their whisky bottles at the city limits.

Beauchamp will move into Little Bill's house to work on his book. He'll get so carried away making repairs to the roof that he'll never get around to it, though, and his wife will come from back East looking for him. (You remember that he's the only character in the movie who wears a wedding ring.) She'll ride part of the way out West on the same train with Mrs. Ansonia Feathers, who was going to visit the grave of her only child in Kansas ... and she'll hear an earful about the likes of William Munny ... thieves and murderers, the lot of them.

When Beauchamp decides to settle down in Big Whiskey and open a carpentry shop, Mrs. Beauchamp will give up on him. She'll journey on to San Francisco, to write the book herself ... There, she'll meet the rich and successful owner of the fashionable dry goods establishment, Munny's Emporium ... she'll divorce W.W., marry Will, and have her hands full trying to discipline her stepchildren, who are growing up pretty wild.

Eventually, though, young Will will see the light, and join the San Francisco Police Department. This will start a family tradition; his son will also go into police work, and the son will have a daughter who will grow up to marry a big strapping Irish cop by the name of Callahan ... it'll be round about 1930 by that time. The rest is history ... ;)

Clint Eastwood Westerns / Re:The future of Big Whiskey
« on: January 15, 2003, 10:50:32 PM »
This is a great topic, Matt! I've often wondered myself about what happens after the end of the movie ... and for that matter, about what happened before the beginning. (Just the way Clint likes it, according to his frequent statements in interviews.)

You do know that when Eastwood finally decided the time had come to make Unforgiven, a property he'd owned for several years, he contacted the screenwriter, David Webb Peoples, and asked him to write a new ending ... where Delilah would end up on the hog farm with Munny? He actually shot this scene, too, but he changed his mind before finishing the film. Peoples reports:

[Clint] called me to say he was going to make the picture at last, what did I think of Morgan Freeman as Ned, what did I think of Unforgiven as a title, and what did I think of rewriting the ending so that Delilah, the cut-whore, would wind up at William Munny’s hog farm?

I was flattered to be asked about casting and the answer was easy enough: what writer wouldn’t want Morgan Freeman saying his or her words? ...  As far as rewriting a scene, a seasoned professional by now, I was glad to do my best to please the director, the star and the producer, all rolled into one.

I worked two days and sent off the pages, surprised to see how well Clint’s idea for tying up the story and putting a sort of bittersweet upbeat twist on it worked.

And again I didn’t hear from Clint for a long time. Then, in June of 1992, I got a call.

He invited me over to Warner Bros. to see his picture, complete now except for the mix. ... I went over to Warner Bros. and met him in person for the first time. As he ushered me into the theater, he told me he’d thrown out the two scenes I’d rewritten, said it was better the way I’d written it the first time.
(From an essay by Peoples, "He's going to shoot you if you disappoint him," in the AFI Life Achievement Award tribute book, 1996.)

Eastwood actually threw out the ending Peoples originally wrote, too, which featured a brief homecoming scene with the kids, in favor of the single long shot of Munny paying a last graveside tribute to Claudia ... then fading out ... as we have it now.

Matt, one slight correction ... you ask, "What about the surviving deputies?" Actually, only one member of Big Whiskey's law enforcement team survives the carnage at Greely's ... Charlie Hecker, the coward of the bunch.  ;)


General Discussion / Re: Favorite Eastwood Quotes and One-Liners
« on: January 15, 2003, 10:21:58 PM »
You missed a few, Matt ...

MUNNY: I seen him, Ned. I seen the Angel of Death. I seen the river, Ned. H-He's got snake eyes.
NED: Who, Will? Who's got snake eyes?
MUNNY: The Angel of Death. Oh, Ned ... oh, Ned. I'm scared of dying!
NED: Easy, partner. Easy.
MUNNY: I seen Claudia, too.
NED: Well, that's good, Will, that's good you saw Claudia, ain't it?
MUNNY: Her face was all covered with worms ...  Oh, Ned, I'm scared. I ... I'm ... I'm dying. You won't ... No, don't tell nobody... Don't tell my kids ... none of the things I done ... You hear me?
NED: All right, Will.

THE SCHOFIELD KID: Sh|t. I thought they was gonna get us. I was even scared, a little. Just for a minute. Was you ever scared in them days?
MUNNY: I can't remember. I was drunk, most of the time.

LITTLE BILL: I'll see you in Hell, William Munny.

MUNNY: Yeah ...

And a personal favorite ...  8)

MUNNY: All right now, I'm comin' out. Any man I see out there, I'm gonna kill 'im. Any sonofab*[email protected] takes a shot at me, I'm not only gonna kill him, I'm gonna kill his wife, all his friends. Burn his damn house down. Nobody better shoot.



Oh, AKA! I was just kidding! I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings! I know you put a lot of thought into your answer. But you shouldn't feel bad about being compared to Wilson ... he's one of Clint's best characters, isn't he? And, maybe he talks a lot ... but only because he has a lot to say! ;)  :)  ;)

Trivia Games / Re:Connect Clint
« on: January 15, 2003, 07:35:23 PM »
Carson gang?

Only Carson I can think of in an Eastwood movie would be Bill Carson, but there's only one of him ... and the poor guy's minus an eye ...  

I think you've almost got it, though, zoso. Try a little harder!  ;) :D

Matt, it's plain that the only Eastwood character that AKA resembles AT ALL is John Wilson from White Hunter, Black Heart.  ;)

Why? None of the others TALKS nearly enough!  :o  ;D

General Discussion / Re:Clint's Pop
« on: January 15, 2003, 06:52:37 PM »
 ::) Once again ... for the umpty-umpth time ... from the FAQ  for this site ...
Q: Who is Clint Eastwood's father?

A: Clint Eastwood's father is Clinton Eastwood, Sr. (Stan Laurel is NOT Clint Eastwood's father. Kill this false rumor!)

William, the author of the website to which you have kindly provided a link is not being wholly serious ... ;)


Collectors' Corner / Re:Dina's first interview with Clint
« on: January 15, 2003, 01:27:13 AM »
 :D baggieb, is that you?  ;D

Palm, there's a website for KSBW ...

If you find out anything, let the rest of us know! ;)

Eastwood News / Re:Mystic River publcity photo...
« on: January 14, 2003, 11:45:51 PM »
It seems is like a number of other sites that don't allow direct linking to their images. If you paste the url of the picture, which is , into the address window of your browser while you're on this page, and hit "enter," you'll see the picture. If you then hit "back," you'll see it on this page. It won't work to click the link I just gave; you have to copy and paste it ... then hit "enter."

All in all ... it's easier to follow the link to the site in the first place.  ::)

Trivia Games / Re:Degrees of Seperation
« on: January 14, 2003, 06:36:55 PM »
And ... Dust to Dust was released in 1994, not 1997! ;) (Not that I've ever seen it!  :o )

I have seen Heat and Dust ... a Merchant-Ivory movie from 1983.

I know we're not counting made for TV movies here, but I can't resist pointing out that this Eads fellow (sounds like an acronym) was in a project called The Spring in 2000 ... costarring in that was a lass by the name of Alison Eastwood.  ;)

General Discussion / Re:Tag, you're it! (Swell, another Eastwood game)
« on: January 13, 2003, 09:52:30 PM »
I've answered SEVEN tags today ... one went way back to Jan. 9 (when I was tagged two other times, which I've answered), two to Jan. 11, three to Jan. 12, and one to today. I make it that I owe one tag for the Jan. 9, two for the first Jan. 11 and one for the second, two for the first Jan. 12 and one each for the two others ... and two for today. Let's see, six and two and two and carry your one ... that makes TEN questions I owe! :o

OK, I'll try to keep 'em short and sweet ... and try to ask people who haven't participated too much yet. I've gone through the lists of members and picked out a few real old timers ... going back three or four years with this Board.

Alex: I'm assuming you're the same Alex I remember from way back when on the old Board ... If your kids are old enough for Clint, by now... what will you pick as their first Clint film? Or, if you've already started them on Clint, what was the first one ... and did they like it?

Aline: Clint is coming to Brazil to film a new thriller, and you've been assigned as his assistant in charge of helping him scout locations. Where would you take him?

Rose: Same question as Aline's but applied to your part of the world.

baggieb: What's your favorite landscape shot in an Eastwood move, just in terms of the landscape, not what it means to the story?

Blu: Well, maybe no more Dirty Harry. Would you like to see Clint do another film with San Francisco as the setting, or would that just awaken too many melancholy thoughts about how it ISN'T a Dirty Harry?

Clintfan: Can you name one piece of Clint memorabilia you'd like to own, but have never managed to "score"?

GregHayfner: What's your favorite song sung by Clint in one of his movies?

jjgonski: you once said ... on 03-15-99 at 07:23 PM, to be exact (it was in one of the select few threads from back then that I saved), "Although Unforgiven was an absolutely outstanding piece of work, GBU still stands above." Is that still your assessment?

the stranger: If you could add ONE "special feature" to an existing Eastwood DVD ... what would you add to which one?

gwb: Which of all the more than ONE HUNDRED atavars that Matt so generously designed and supplied for anyone on the Board to use (see this thread) do you like the best? I'm asking because I really, really wish you would use it as your own ... instead of the one I designed for myself! ;)

General Discussion / Re:Tag, you're it! (Swell, another Eastwood game)
« on: January 13, 2003, 07:48:31 PM »
Whoops ... I still haven't provided new tags in exchange for the ones I answered this morning ... and now I see I have two MORE outstanding ones  ...  :o

??? K.C.......... Agent......... are you avoiding my tags.... or Am I missing your Answers?
This is getting a bit mixed up ;)
I just plain missed it, Stranger, I'm sorry ... I did a search in this forum to pick up all the "tags" for KC, but I forgot to search K.C. also! ;)

K.C.: You have the chance to go back to the 70's to only One specific location or set for One Clint scene, you can observe, take photos, recording equipment etc, where do you go? :o
OK, that's a good question and a hard one. One scene only? The first thing that comes to mind would be one of the "Lago" scenes of High Plains Drifter, just because that was such an extraordinary set ... like no other "Western" town ever seen in the movies ... but then, to pick only one scene? Couldn't do it ... Maybe the finale of The Gauntlet? It could be fun to hear what all the cops firing at the bus had to say about the invincibility of the vehicle ... and why they weren't firing at the tires! ;)

No, I think I'd pick the "bank robbery" scene in Dirty Harry ... so I could get it straight, once and for all (with my camera and recording equipment) whether he fired six shots ... or only five! ;)

One thing's for sure, I would NOT pick the climactic scene of The Eiger Sanction! You'll never get me up in one of those things!  :o

   i'd like to know if there's any other clint book plans in the works or if you have any interest in writing about him again?
Personally, I wouldn't mind writing about him again, but so far, no one is asking me to! What I'd really like to do is work on special edition DVDs ... of a new kind, and they wouldn't require any commentary from Clint, if he didn't want to do it. I have a lot of material, some ideas and even some programming skills, and I'd like to make scholar's editions of Eastwood movies, with connections to voluminous numbers of reviews and critical studies, linked to specific shots in the films ... fully linked and indexed script(s) of course ... and contextual multimedia essays. Holden's seen Multimedia Hitchcock (a computer kiosk exhibit at New York's Museum of Modern Art), which I worked on ... imagine doing something like that for each individual Eastwood film. Starting with Unforgiven, of course!  :D

OK, now I have to get to work on those new questions. I think I owe about ten!  :o


General Discussion / Re:Tag, you're it! (Swell, another Eastwood game)
« on: January 13, 2003, 07:40:56 AM »
I'm behind by FIVE tags! Here are my answers; questions will have to wait a bit longer, sorry ...

KC: Do you think Clint has another realistic shot at a masterpiece? Is there another Unforgiven left in him? A film that will bring him widespread commercial and critical acclaim or was that film probably the best that Eastwood can expect in that department? In a related question, what subject matter or story would you like to see Clint tackle that he hasn't done before? I'm just wondering if Clint can do it again. Yes, we know the potential is there, but I mean is it realistic?
AKA, NO ONE on earth has a "realistic" shot at a masterpiece. Not the most gifted, nor the most ambitious. Being gifted and ambitious helps, of course ... but masterpieces just happen ... once in a million tries. And, most things that are hailed as masterpieces on their first appearance, are relegated to the dust heap of history within the year.

I can't think, offhand, of any subject matter I'd like to see Clint try, though after reading through the "Horror Films" thread ... maybe he could find something new to say in that genre. I'd want it to be psychological horror, though ... where the intent wouldn't be so much to shock the audience as to impress them with the resilience of the human psyche in the face of extreme stress.

We once had a discussion on the old Board about how well Eastwood works with  children, and that it would be interesting to see him direct a children's film ... that's another possibility.

KC : What was it that spurred this amazing interest in Clint Eastwood and his films, especially at a later age in life?
"A later age in life"??!! I like that! I'm not quite ready for Social Security yet! ;)

As far as I know, you didn't really grow up loving his films, so you were attracted to him really as you grew and matured yourself. You've only been a Clint fan for really 10 years or so when you first saw Unforgiven, so what was it that at that time made you this huge fan that you are and gave you the desire to do so much and learn so much about Clint Eastwood and his films? It takes a certain amount of dedication to go ahead and say I want to edit a book on Clint Eastwood! I'd just like to know what started it all, if there is something that you can pinpoint and that spurred your interest. Had you never given his films a chance before,  and saw with Unforgiven something that you hadn't seen, or did you not really like Clint Eastwood but someone told you that with Unforgiven it was a different kind of film?
AKA, as I've explained many times before, it wasn't a question of "growing and maturing," or of "not giving Eastwood's films a chance" or of "not liking Clint Eastwood" before Unforgiven ... the simple fact was that I had never seen an Eastwood film ... not a single one ... before I saw Unforgiven. There was no particular reason for it, I didn't see a lot of mainstream American films ... and I didn't have a TV, so I never happened across one by chance. So, Unforgiven was the beginning. I think its quality speaks for itself; who wouldn't want to know everything about the creator of that ... yes ... masterpiece? As for "going ahead and saying I want to edit a book on Clint Eastwood" ... if THAT were that easy, I'd have done it a few years earlier! I was asked to be the co-editor of that book, by the person who did the most (besides Clint himself) to nurture my interest in Eastwood: Prof. Robert Kapsis, who taught a class in Eastwood at New York's New School in 1993. The film series that was an adjunct to that class was where I saw my first large group of Eastwood films after Unforgiven ... and the rest is history. ;) By the time Prof. Kapsis came to be invited to edit Clint Eastwood: Interviews, he knew it would be a better book if I joined the project as co-editor, so he graciously made that a condition of his participation.

KC Clint decides to run for president and you are asked to join his campaign team but you disgree with some of his policies, what do you do?
Red, I think I'd tell him ... "Clint, don't do it! The world needs more of your films, not another presidential candidate! Presidential candidates are a dime a dozen ... each of your films is one in a million!" And, I'd decline. ;)

KC Who was your favorite movie star before Clint Eastwood?

I didn't have a favorite, before Clint. I thought it was beneath me to make a big deal of movie stars ... directors were the thing. Of course, Clint is a director too, which didn't hurt his cause with me!

I can't think of any other contemporary American stars that I really liked at the time I discovered Clint. I was (still am) fond of actors from the classic American cinema ... Cary Grant and Gary Cooper, Greta Garbo and Marlene Dietrich, to name a few. And I was a big fan of foreign cinema, especially from countries whose languages I've studied. I liked Max von Sydow, Liv Ullman and others in Ingmar Bergman's films. I guess maybe my favorite foreign actor (though I never managed to see many of his films) was a German, Matthias Habich. He starred in a film I liked a lot, Volker Schlöndorff's Coup de Grâce (Der Fangschuss).

K.C.:  Who do you think Sondra Locke is seeing now ??  

A shrink ... or I hope so, for her sake! ;)

OK ... I'll post my "tags" tonight.

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