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« on: May 12, 2003, 05:29:22 PM »

I was thinking about the fact that clint was considering "hanging it up as an actor" :'(. Don't you guys think it would be nice if he just acted one more time... I mean, if his last piece of acting is bloodwork...I don't know but I'd like to see him go off with a big sucess like unforgiven.
 I'd like to remember him as the man with no name or something like that, instead of the man who got a transplanted heart. ;D
 No but seriously, I liked bloodwork, but it's far from beeing top-range eastwood
 Anyone agrees? toughts comments? ???
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« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2003, 08:18:25 PM »

Absolutely.  :) I think something where his character has to face his own mortality, as a senior citizen, head-on, could be an amazing thing to see.
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« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2003, 03:28:39 PM »

I definitely would like to see Clint onscreen again, and hopefully, I think we will. He's said in recent years that the day when he looks up on the screen and says I don't want to see that guy anymore is getting closer, but he's never said that it's here, and that he no longer plans to act. I don't know why a lot of people keep assuming that he can no longer be viable as an actor, and that it would be great to see him on the screen one last time. If that's all he plans to do, then yes, I agree, I'd definitely want to see him onscreen again for one last time if that's his decision, but I think there isn't any reason why he needs to hang it up as an actor. I think he can still find lots of roles for him to play, and I think he should. He certainly cannot go out on Blood Work . That cannot be his very last performance, at least I hope not. That would be a disaster.

Clint is going to do whatever he wants to do, and I don't think at this point that he particularly cares what any of his fans want or think. He's doing this all for himself and because HE wants to do it. I see no reason for Clint to give up acting entirely, and I've been increasingly anxious that that might end up actually happening. He isn't in Mystic River , he isn't going to be in this biopic that he's planning on Niel Armstrong, and we've heard of no project where he's considering starring in addition to producing and directing. I don't know what Clint is doing anymore. I used to think he would do another western, but I don't think he cares about doing another western anymore, at least not one where he would be the star. Maybe he's beyond caring if his fans want to see him on the screen again. Maybe he doesn't care that Blood Work was terrible. I'm really hoping Clint is going to get back in the game sometime soon with an acting role, but maybe not. Maybe he doesn't even think about what we want anymore :(
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« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2003, 04:25:45 PM »

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Maybe he's beyond caring if his fans want to see him on the screen again...Maybe he doesn't even think about what we want anymore

I believe and hope that Clint will do whatever he wants to do. But I really don't think he doesn't care about his fans.
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« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2003, 04:27:29 PM »

I think Clint is like Woody Allen in the respect that he acts in his films in order to get them made.  I think directing means much much more to him than acting.  He wanted the director honor at the Oscars a lot, and I don't know how much he really cared about winning prizes for acting.  Actually, I wish he wasn't so interested in being honored all the time.  It's kind of lame.
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« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2003, 04:30:46 PM »

Actually, I wish he wasn't so interested in being honored all the time.  It's kind of lame.
:o Whoa, there! Where has he ever expressed interest in being "honored"?
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« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2003, 04:33:09 PM »

He was very very concerned about winning the Academy Award, and he really really wanted to win Cannes. And he has had Warner Bros. politicize on his behalf to get retrospectives and festivals.  It's not a bad thing.  Most people are like this.
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« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2003, 04:35:29 PM »

Someone's been reading the McGilligan book.  That's one of Pat's little annoyances that he gloats about all through the book.... Clint wanting the awards.  It's such a lame book.
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« Reply #8 on: May 13, 2003, 04:43:31 PM »

If I was up for a Best Director Oscar, I'd want to win it too. ;)

And somehow, I doubt it's because of Warner Bros. that have gotten him the retrospectives and festivals. It would never have anything to do with him being a HUGE FILM ICON.

Excuse the sarcasm, please. I know it's a part of the entertainment industry to campaign for awards, but there's all sorts of reasons that are behind the campaigning, but whether Eastwood has done any of that or not, I don't honestly know.
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« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2003, 04:50:39 PM »

McGilligan wanted to make Clint look like a monster, and did everything he could to prove it in his book.  I read it with a BIG grain of salt.  In the end, instead of getting the image of Clint being a selfish and angry man who would trample everyone in his wake to get what he wanted... I thought  it reflected VERY badly on McGilligan... he was out to try to ruin the reputation of one of America's favorite actors, one who is loved by nearly everyone he's worked with.  And since McG went to such extraordinary measures to prove his point, he's the one who comes out looking like the jerk.
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« Reply #10 on: May 13, 2003, 05:07:44 PM »

Matt, it's from the Richard Schickel book.  And just to verify, nobody, especially not I, said Eastwood was an icon because of awards.  Schickel wrote that Warners obviously help Eastwood get these honors and showcases because he brought films in under budget and made poor sequels to help the studio.  
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« Reply #11 on: May 13, 2003, 05:10:16 PM »

I read Schickel's book too, and I don't recall reading anything about how he had an interest in being honored all the time.  That's straight out of McGilligan.  Are you sure you didn't read that one?  That particular negative slant is only one part of the ugliness of that book.
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« Reply #12 on: May 13, 2003, 05:16:20 PM »

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I'm not even gonna say anything
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« Reply #13 on: May 13, 2003, 05:16:36 PM »

Yes, I never read McG book.  I looked at it once and thought it only analyzed films based upon critical response from newspaper critics (who cares what newsies think?) and boxoffice reports.  Schickel didn't make it seem spurious that Clint wanted honors, but rather natural for a Hollywood veteran to want accolades, which it is.  I don't think this it is terrible that Clint plays the studio system, and vice versa; I just wished he himself wasn't so interested in these things.  Hey, Hemingway accepted awards.
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« Reply #14 on: May 13, 2003, 05:17:50 PM »

Misty71, you quoted me wrong.   :)
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« Reply #15 on: May 13, 2003, 05:20:29 PM »

Yeah i know, I modified it
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« Reply #16 on: May 13, 2003, 05:26:23 PM »

Okay ... Wendy,

If you didn't get it from McGilligan's book, then where ARE you getting it from?  What makes you state, as a fact, that he's so interested in being honored?  
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« Reply #17 on: May 13, 2003, 05:36:51 PM »

I'm sure Clint wanted the awards that he's gotten, and I'm sure that he's honored by having received them, but I don't think he goes out compulsively campaigning for awards and trying to get honored. I'm not even sure that he's all that concerned with getting honored. I'm not attacking Wendy or her viewpoint, and she could be correct, but I don't see it. If he was so concerned with being honored, I think he would have made very different films. The films that he has made over the years are mostly completely shunned by the Academy. He isn't interested in making the kinds of films that would get him awards. If he wanted a Best Actor oscar, I think he'd be taking different roles. The fact that he doesn't, and the fact that he does what he wants to do and makes the films that he wants to make regardless of how they are received is a great argument for him not being overly consumed with winning awards and garnering accolades.

On a different note, I do think that Clint cares to some degree what his fans think, and I'm sure that he prefers that his fans stick with him and support the things that he is doing, but I don't think that he'd change what he wanted to do for us. Even if all his fans want to see him continue acting, I don't think that's going to motivate him to act if he doesn't want to. Clint beats to the tune of his own drum. In some ways, that's a very good thing, but that also means that he isn't going to be influenced by his fans to any large degree. He'll continue to do exactly whatever it is that HE wants to do. He isn't going to act just because all his fans tell him that's what he should do. That was my point.
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« Reply #18 on: May 13, 2003, 06:46:46 PM »

Schickel (p. 466) on Eastwood and how he reacted to the announcement of the Oscar nominations for Unforgiven:

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Just as [Eastwood] had refused all along to admit how much this film [ Unforgiven ] meant to him, he now refused to admit how much he wanted this recognition for it. He would just quietly do everything possible to assure the right outcome. The strategy was to remain tastefully present in the minds of Osdcar voters, without looking as if he was desperate for their favor.
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« Reply #19 on: May 13, 2003, 07:05:38 PM »

That's hardly:

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... so interested in being honored all the time.

And it's not lame.

For what other films has he heavily campaigned for an Oscar?  

It's just the same mindset that McGilligan had... as if he was obsessed with winning awards.  For a man to campaign in a dignified manner for an Oscar for one film out of over 40 he's done... it's not the same thing.
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