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« Reply #20 on: December 19, 2002, 06:32:46 PM »

Originally posted by KC, 05-22-2002 06:35 AM  
I fixed it, AgentR ... it's case sensitive. Has to end with .JPG, not .jpg.

Probably there's a subtext in that, too ...   ;)

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« Reply #21 on: December 19, 2002, 06:37:10 PM »

Originally posted by Agent, 05-22-2002 08:05 AM      

Thanks KC! I did originally left it ".JPG," (cut & paste), but for some strange reason it wouldn't cooperate. But thanks nonetheless   :)

As a result, I'm going to edit the above post.

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Flint: "That eagle, why did he attack me?"
Galaxy man: "He's been trained to recognize and attack Americans."
Flint: "An anti-American eagle. How diabolical!"
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« Reply #22 on: December 19, 2002, 06:38:20 PM »

Originally posted by Red, 05-22-2002 11:11 AM      
I have the 30th Anniversary Special Edition DVD of Dirty Harry as part of a five disc box set. On it there is an interview with Andy Robinson in which he states that Don Siegel encouraged him to ad lib and the line, "My thats a big one", was ad libbed by him and not part of the original script.

Just to muddy the waters a little!

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« Reply #23 on: December 19, 2002, 06:39:40 PM »

Originally posted by Agent, 05-22-2002 02:54 PM      
Ahhh! The same motivation that promted Bill McKinney to ad-lib the "Squeal like a pig" line! See the sub-connection here??!! It's all fitting together!

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Galaxy man: "He's been trained to recognize and attack Americans."
Flint: "An anti-American eagle. How diabolical!"
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« Reply #24 on: December 19, 2002, 06:42:56 PM »

Originally posted by baggieb,05-22-2002 10:23 PM      
At the risk of being taken seriously, and dragging this insane thread clear through to the logical conclusion...
In Dead Pool, Harry goes after the killer with a humongous spear gun. And impales him with a spear, pinning him against the wall. Both symbols obviously phallic. How much more obvious a Gay subtext could one wish?????

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« Reply #25 on: December 19, 2002, 06:44:17 PM »

Originally posted by GMAT, 05-23-2002 05:13 AM    
Of course, in the case of Thunderbolt and Lightfoot, the director, Michael Cimino, has admitted to the existence of a "gay subtext" in his film and that subtext squares with the film's main text. Neither is the case with Dirty Harry.

I also don't understand that critic's point, as almost all serial killers in the history of western civilization have been heterosexual white males who, while sexually frustrated, perhaps, have lusted after and killed women in particular. Scorpio, appropriately, seems to take special pleasure in targeting social minorities (women, children, gays, blacks, Catholics).

But you guys have been very clever with these examples. Keep them up ...
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« Reply #26 on: December 19, 2002, 06:46:03 PM »

Originally posted by GMAT, 05-23-2002 05:26 AM      
OK, that critic is ridiculous and makes no sense. He has no justification for calling Scorpio "gay," and even less for terming Harry a "racist" ... this is the kind of sh!t that gives film criticism a bad name.

Scorpio does make something of a phallic joke by commenting on Harry's gun, but then, Scorpio is a perverse individual.


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... his blatant and gleeful homosexuality.

O ... K ... are we sure that BDC, Agent, Red, and Matt didn't secretly collaborate on this article?   ;)
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« Reply #27 on: December 19, 2002, 06:47:09 PM »

Originally posted by Red,05-23-2002 05:36 AM      
With reference to Michael Cimino's gay subtext in Thunderbolt and Lightfoot, don't forget he also co-wrote Magnum Force.

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« Reply #28 on: December 19, 2002, 06:48:43 PM »

Originally posted by Agent, 05-23-2002 06:09 AM      
Oh no - Magnum Force! Just the title alone is very suggestive. I mean....were the 4 merry straight-shooting vigilantes "queer," or what? Who among us will start the Magnum Force thread??

Just kidding, of course....

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« Reply #29 on: December 19, 2002, 06:49:52 PM »

Originally posted by Jonsson45, 10-30-2002 02:52 PM      
Gay subtext or not he was ahead of his time if it was true, look at the shows like Jackass I think its hilarious party boy running around in a thong bumpin up on guys check out the movie Jackass and you will not stop laughin.
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« Reply #30 on: December 19, 2002, 06:51:33 PM »

Originally posted by Nightwing, 10-30-2002 07:16 PM
So what you guys (and gals) are saying here, is that Dirty Harry is gay?!    ??? ???

So thats why he shoved that girl outta the way of the mial box, he had gay porn in there.   :o

Mail box bomb, my ass.

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« Reply #31 on: December 19, 2002, 06:52:51 PM »

Originally posted by Matt, 10-30-2002 07:39 PM      
bdc started this thread as a joke, after an eight page debate on whether or not there was gay subtext in Thunderbolt and Lightfoot.
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« Reply #32 on: December 19, 2002, 06:54:34 PM »

Originally posted by Nightwing, 10-30-2002 07:47 PM      
I know, I was only joking. I know this thread isnt meant to be taken seriously. (or is it?  ??? ;) :P   )

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« Reply #33 on: December 19, 2002, 06:56:14 PM »

Originally posted by bdc28, 11-06-2002 06:20 AM      
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O ... K ... are we sure that BDC, Agent, Red, and Matt didn't secretly collaborate on this article? -GMAT
Ahhh, GMAT, ya got us good didnt ya? Im telling you, there is no fooling the O.G (original GMAT).

On a serious side to this, it is VERY possible that Scorpio be homosexual, or at least try it. Generally in criminal profiling of mass murderers or spree killers, there is usually a question of sexuality (such is the case with Jeffrey Dahmer). Generally this is fueled with a inability to bond with the female gender, and is mistaken as real homosexuality (which is an attraction to the opposite sex, as opposed to having sex with your gender because you are uncomfortable with females).

It WOULD, fit the profile.

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« Reply #34 on: December 19, 2002, 06:57:39 PM »

Originally posted by little_bill, 11-06-2002 06:54 AM      
i think i'm gonna be sick :o

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« Reply #35 on: December 19, 2002, 06:58:45 PM »

Originally posted by philo, 11-06-2002 08:10 AM      
If you look at that masked picture of Andy and then read answer " b " , it is so funny , In fact I laughed all the way through that post .

Well done Agent R

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« Reply #36 on: December 19, 2002, 06:59:59 PM »

Originally posted by Agent, 11-06-2002 08:25 AM      
lol..I'll have to go back & check out what was said -- I've forgotten it's been so long.  8)

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« Reply #37 on: December 19, 2002, 07:01:18 PM »

Originally posted by william evans, 11-08-2002 12:56 PM      

After reading all of this thread, I need to call my wife!   ;D 8)


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« Reply #38 on: December 19, 2002, 07:03:34 PM »

That's the whole original thread.

If anyone would like to continue the craziness... go ahead!  ;D
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« Reply #39 on: April 25, 2003, 11:28:17 AM »

Hmmmm, this is an interesting article.

I was reading this in the latest article of G.M.A.T (Gay Material And Thubplots)...about why the Dirty Harry character never went beyond Sargeant, or liked pairing with a partner.

Its a theory that in some "Serpico" kind of way, he was found in a mens room, and not alone. The then caring, and "understanding" captain, kept trying to pair him up with other "partners", to get something steady going.

Also a clarification. Supposedly his former partner, and his wife, were killed before the first Dirty Harry (this was inferred). There is a theory that they were one in the same person..."wife" being a nickname at the time.

Any thoughts?

By the way, GMAT....I miss you. I hope you know that was my backhanded way of saying WHERE ARE YOU??!?!
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