Baseball 2004

[Matt]

Anyway, Julian Tavarez was incredible for the Cards tonight, pitching two shut-out innings with three broken bones in his left hand.



It's been one hell of a postseason.

[Brendan]

That's a shame. (NOTE: I'm not being sarcastic or anything, I really mean it.) I turned on the radio at work and they said "8-1 for Boston" and I was like, "What the (expletive deleted)?!"

[Matt]

... and I was like, "What the (expletive deleted)?!"

I know several of us who were saying that since Sunday night.  

[KC]

 

[Brendan]

Man #1: OH MY GOD!! BOSTON WON!!!

Man #2: YEAH!! FINALLY!!

Man #1: I'M GONNA PUNCH YOU NOW!!

Man #2: YEAH... wait, what?

An unidentified Boston Red Sox fan is covered in blood after being injured outside Fenway Park in Boston, Massachusetts October 20, 2004. Riots erupted after the Red Sox defeated the New York Yankees in Game seven of the ALCS to secure a spot in the World Series. Photo by Jessica Rinaldi/Reuters

From Yahoo!:

Violence Flares in Boston After Red Sox Win

Thu Oct 21, 7:33 AM ET

BOSTON (Reuters) - Scattered violence broke out on Thursday after thousands of Boston Red Sox fans converged on Fenway Park to celebrate their baseball club's historic win over the New York Yankees that puts them in the World Series (news - web sites).

Local television footage showed most fans milling peacefully around the ballpark after Boston's 10-3 victory over the Yankees in New York. But a few dozen people turned violent, jumping on cars, lighting fires, fighting and vandalizing signs and storefronts before police in riot gear moved in to disperse them.

Police said they made about half a dozen arrests and about the same number of people were injured in the fracas.

Boston police had warned in advance they would not tolerate any post-game violence and deployed hundreds of officers around Fenway Park.

How nice and ridiculously pathetic all at the same time!!

(Article can be found here and the photo here.

[vik]

i hope he ain't gonna put that ketchup on a hotdog  

[Brendan]

YEAH!!

Woman Dies After Red Sox Celebrations Turn Violent

BOSTON (Reuters) - A college student died on Thursday after being injured along with at least 15 other people in violence that erupted after the Boston Red Sox beat the New York Yankees to advance to the World Series.

Emerson College in Boston confirmed the death of one of its students, 21-year-old Victoria Snelgrove. The school said it appeared she was caught up in the celebrations that drew at least 60,000 people to the area around Boston's Fenway Park following the game at Yankee Stadium in New York.

Boston police said they arrested eight people and that 16 people were taken to area hospitals after some fans turned violent and jumped on cars, lit fires, fought and vandalized signs and storefronts.

Police said they launched an investigation to determine whether some of the injuries were the result of officers' use of force to control the crowds.

Article from Yahoo!.

I guess it would have been better if the Yankees had of won. I mean if this what your going to do when your team wins your team doesn't deserve to win at all. At least the Yankees fans have become used to them winning so much it doesn't appear to affect them, at least not to the point where they all go on murderous violent rampages.
This is just ridiculous. It just doesn't make any sense.

I'm afraid to ever go to Boston now.

[KC]

It's important to note that the game was actually played in New York, so these fans were celebrating around an empty park.

New York beat Boston in seven games last year, and I don't recall any public celebrations at all.

Brendan, if you think this was bad ... wait till the Sox win the World Series. All New England will explode. The president may have to call troops home from the war to cope with it!  

[Matt]

We'll just have to hope that doesn't happen.

Go Astros! Go Cards!  

[Jed Cooper]

It's important to note that the game was actually played in New York, so these fans were celebrating around an empty park.

New York beat Boston in seven games last year, and I don't recall any public celebrations at all.

Brendan, if you think this was bad ... wait till the Sox win the World Series. All New England will explode. The president may have to call troops home from the war to cope with it!  

I hope not!  How moronic of those who cause destruction, injury and mayhem.  

[Matt]

Congrats to the Cardinals! Go get the Sox.  

[Eastwood57]

There are baseball fans, and then there are morons. Every time a championship is won, there are some form of riots, burning cars, and idiots climbing telephone poles with no shirts on in 40 degree weather. It isn't limited to Boston. When the Patriots shocked the NFL in 2001 with their first Super Bowl win, there were 2 million people that showed up for the parade through downtown Boston, and the only arrests made were for public drinking.
There is no cure for being an idiot, and idiots are everywhere. That's why we have the Darwin Awards. But they don't all live in Boston. They're in St. Louis, New York, and Houston as well.

[KC]

However, I don't recall this type of thing EVER happening in New York.

Instead, when the Yankees win the World Series, we have a parade. There's tickertape and the Yankees ride past their fans and people cheer and if you don't want to go downtown to see it you can watch it on television. It's nice.  

[Matt]

There were riots in Boston last year too:

Five officers were injured while attempting to disperse the crowd, including four who were hurt by rocks thrown by students, O'Connor said. Three students were injured as well, including one who was hit in the face with a projectile and lost some teeth, she said.

Students flipped over a gray Honda Prelude Special Edition and a red Toyota in Lot 50, which is located between John Quincy Adams tower and John Adams tower. The Prelude was flipped onto a gray Saturn with Massachusetts plate number "1833 NO." The Saturn's front windshield was smashed, and the front right corner of the car was damaged where the Prelude had hit it. A van was also parked in the lot, but was not visibly damaged during the riot.

According to John Tattersall, a freshman who watched the riot, the crowd was located in a different part of Southwest than where the cars were flipped. He said people moved to the lot during the riot specifically to flip the cars.

"All of a sudden, people were just like, 'let's flip cars,'" Tattersall said.

http://www.dailycollegian.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2003/10/06/3f80da2545f5b

I know the first thing I want to do after seeing my team win is go flip cars.

Guess that's why I wasn't surprised by this happening this year.

[Brendan]

Yeah, I hope St. Louis wins. The Boston fans don't deserve it if they're going to act the way they did. I guess there is a curse for a reason.

[Conan]

  Dumb-ass mob mentality.  There would be some dead or hurting car flippers if I saw people doing that to any of the rides that I've owned over the years.   Stealing from or otherwise messing with an innocent person's car deserves the same penalty that horse thieves received in the mid-late 1800s.  I wonder if insurance even covers damage from being flipped?

  I hope that kind of BS is not indicative of the average BoSox fan.

[Christopher]

I guess it would have been better if the Yankees had of won. I mean if this what your going to do when your team wins your team doesn't deserve to win at all. At least the Yankees fans have become used to them winning so much it doesn't appear to affect them, at least not to the point where they all go on murderous violent rampages.
This is just ridiculous. It just doesn't make any sense.

This type of thing happens all the time. When the Buckeyes won the championship, there was a lot of fun stuff like destruction to property that happened in Columbus. So the people of Boston aren't any crazier than anyone else in any other city, town, state, country...

[GBU]

Astros lost.




Hope Cards win.

[Matt]

This type of thing happens all the time. When the Buckeyes won the championship, there was a lot of fun stuff like destruction to property that happened in Columbus. So the people of Boston aren't any crazier than anyone else in any other city, town, state, country...

86 years of losing, and the heightened rivalry over the past few years between the Red Sox and the Yankees (aggravated as much by the creation of the Wild Card as by the press making the most of it for ratings) has created a much more hostile situation in Boston. I wouldn't say it wasn't any crazier than anywhere else in the country... even if it occasionally happens elsewhere.

[D'Ambrosia]

Sorry KC, looks as if I jinxed the whole damb thing...

Anyway, my guess is the Cards in 6.