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« on: March 06, 2007, 10:15:54 AM »

 :) In the New movie "Zodiac" there's a scene that takes place in a movie theatre that's showing "Dirty Harry".It shows a clip near the beginning of it in the mayors office with the mayor played by John Vernon.NO Clint appearances though.It also shows a DH sign & a DH standee in the theatre's lobby too! *Not sure if they were REAL or made up for the movie.
Look for it if you see it! It's in the middle of the movie.
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« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2007, 11:53:17 AM »

Yes, I liked the standee  8)

There were two other references to Dirty Harry
We've discussed it in this thread  :)
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« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2007, 10:01:00 AM »

thanks ill look out 8)
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« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2007, 12:27:17 PM »

I just saw "Zodiac" and it was an excellent movie. I have done quite a bit of research into the Zodiac murders that occurred in the late 60's and 70's, and  I was quite pleased at how well the movie stayed true to the facts.

Anyway, as you probably already know, Scorpio from "Dirty Harry" was based somewhat on the Zodiac Killer, and supposedly Harry was influenced by the lead detective in "Zodiac", Dave Toschi.

AND there was a scene in "Zodiac" where some of the main characters went to see "Dirty Harry" when it was theaters. The scene was the one where the Mayor(John Vernon) reads Scorpio's first letter.

Just thought I'd let you know!
                                   
EDIT: I did not realize someone else had already posted on this topic, feel free to delete or move it. Sorry!
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« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2007, 07:37:28 AM »

I'm confused.  Wasn't Dirty Harry inspired by the Zodiac killings?  If Scorpio was patterned after the Zodiac, why would scenes from a movie that came out afterwards be shown?  Isn't this the course of events?:

1.  Zodiac killings
2.  Dirty Harry movie
3.  Zodiac movie
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« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2007, 08:58:20 AM »

Is this the bit that's confusing you, Brian?

supposedly Harry was influenced by the lead detective in "Zodiac", Dave Toschi.

If so, I think what Dirty-Harry meant was that the Harry Callahan character was influenced by the real life detective Dave Toschi, who is portrayed in the new Zodiac movie.  Needless to say, the real person came before the Eastwood movie.  The news footage I linked to in a post HERE includes a clip of the real Toschi.
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« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2007, 09:11:35 AM »

I'm confused.  Wasn't Dirty Harry inspired by the Zodiac killings?  If Scorpio was patterned after the Zodiac, why would scenes from a movie that came out afterwards be shown?  Isn't this the course of events?:

1.  Zodiac killings
2.  Dirty Harry movie
3.  Zodiac movie

Why do they show gunmen loading their pistols with metal cartridges in movies set during the Civil War (like The Good, the Bad and the Ugly)? The Greeks had a word for it ... anachronism. It's a Hollywood standby.  ;)
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« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2007, 09:48:52 AM »

Wasn't the Zodiac case still open when Dirty Harry came out?
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« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2007, 01:10:54 PM »

Indeed, I believe it remains open to this day.

According to Wikipedia, the killings took place over a ten month span in the late 1960s, but the letters continued to be sent until 1974 (three years after the release of Dirty Harry).
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« Reply #9 on: April 29, 2007, 08:05:39 AM »

Oh, now I get what you meant, Brian.  I guess artistic license can stretch to make a cool touch like that.
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« Reply #10 on: April 30, 2007, 10:53:51 AM »

I was under the assumption the events in the movie Zodiac all took place prior to 1971, which is why it didn't make sense to have scenes from Dirty Harry shown. 

Does anyone here know what time frame is covered in Zodiac? 
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« Reply #11 on: October 20, 2007, 03:48:52 AM »

I just saw "Zodiac" and it was an excellent movie. I have done quite a bit of research into the Zodiac murders that occurred in the late 60's and 70's, and  I was quite pleased at how well the movie stayed true to the facts.

AND there was a scene in "Zodiac" where some of the main characters went to see "Dirty Harry" when it was theaters. The scene was the one where the Mayor(John Vernon) reads Scorpio's first letter.

Hey Dirty-Harry.  I saw ZODIAC on cable recently and saw no scenes from DIRTY HARRY or any references whatsoever.  Where in the movie does it occur that the main characters went to see DIRTY HARRY? 
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« Reply #12 on: October 20, 2007, 04:44:59 AM »

Hey Dirty-Harry.  I saw ZODIAC on cable recently and saw no scenes from DIRTY HARRY or any references whatsoever.  Where in the movie does it occur that the main characters went to see DIRTY HARRY? 

Hello Brian Cooper ! :)

The man from the FBI goes to see "Dirty Harry" (the extract of the film, as Dirty-Harry said, is the one of the letter written by Scorpio) ; he goes out in the hall, when he walks down the stairs, you can see the "Dirty Harry" affiche,  just before he meets Robert Graysmuth (Jake Gyllenhall), who has just watched the film too.
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« Reply #13 on: October 20, 2007, 04:47:50 AM »

Hey Dirty-Harry.  I saw ZODIAC on cable recently and saw no scenes from DIRTY HARRY or any references whatsoever.  Where in the movie does it occur that the main characters went to see DIRTY HARRY? 

Which film did you see on cable? I came across one advertised thinking it was the new one but it ended up being one made in 2005 called The Zodiac
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« Reply #14 on: October 20, 2007, 04:54:10 AM »

Ok, it was The Zodiac starring Justin Chambers.  My mistake.  :-[

That's funny, I didn't even realize it wasn't the one with Jake Gyllenhaal! 

I stand corrected.  I'll have to check that one out.

Sorry about that, Dirty-Harry, and thanks Sylvie & Schofield Kid for correcting my mistake.  O0
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« Reply #15 on: October 20, 2007, 04:57:37 AM »

 :) Was "The Zodiac" a good film too ?

I only saw "Zodiac" and found it really really good, and will buy it when the DVD is in France.
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« Reply #16 on: October 20, 2007, 05:03:46 AM »

I thought it was ok, not outstanding.  Something tells me Zodiac will be better.
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« Reply #17 on: October 22, 2007, 01:58:30 AM »

Why do they show gunmen loading their pistols with metal cartridges in movies set during the Civil War (like The Good, the Bad and the Ugly)? The Greeks had a word for it ... anachronism. It's a Hollywood standby.  ;)

How is that an anachronism?  The killings and the taunting letters all began before the filming and release of Dirty Harry, which was released while the case was still open and under investigation, as seen in Zodiac.
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« Reply #18 on: October 22, 2007, 05:35:59 AM »

How is that an anachronism?  The killings and the taunting letters all began before the filming and release of Dirty Harry, which was released while the case was still open and under investigation, as seen in Zodiac.

I haven't seen the film, so I don't know, but someone else in this thread posted that the events in the film took place before '71. That was implied in the question I was responding to, anyway.

And as far as I know ... the case is STILL open. As I said a bit later in the thread ...

Indeed, I believe it remains open to this day.

According to Wikipedia, the killings took place over a ten month span in the late 1960s, but the letters continued to be sent until 1974 (three years after the release of Dirty Harry).
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« Reply #19 on: October 23, 2007, 10:01:46 AM »

I see.  Actually, the time frame in the film extends well beyond 1971.  I'd recommend seeing Zodiac, it's pretty good.
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