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« Reply #20 on: May 13, 2003, 09:09:26 PM » |
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Yes, I never read McG book. I looked at it once and thought it only analyzed films based upon critical response from newspaper critics (who cares what newsies think?) and boxoffice reports. That definitely doesn't describe the content of McGilliagan's book; very little of the book is concerned in "analyzing" any of Clint's films, unless you count an example like"Unforgiven is overpraised" as analysis. I just wished he himself wasn't so interested in these things. I personally just don't see the evidence that he is so interested in those things. I mean should he have refused the awards for Unforgiven, a la Jean-Paul Sartre?
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« Reply #21 on: May 13, 2003, 11:19:59 PM » |
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Wendy just made a bit of a careless comment, and even though most of us might not agree with her, there's no reason to keep knocking her viewpoint. She says she never read the McGilligan book, and I believe her. I thin she might have just misinterpreted Schickel's intentions. I don't think he was suggesting, at least not from the passage that KC posted, and I've read the book too but it's been awhile, that Clint was really actively soliciting awards. The reason I don't believe that as I've stated above is that he doesn't act like it when he's choosing his roles or deciding what films to do. Unforgiven and its critical and commercial success really caught him off guard. He didn't go into it thinking he'd make a killing or be getting loads of recognition. I think he was probably shocked at its reception. The facts just don't support this claim. I can name LOADS of Academy favorites that in my view really do solicit awards and know when they're choosing a film that it might get some academy consideration, but Clint certainly isn't one of them. He got honored once, and the films that he does are usually distinctly not what the Academy is looking for. That's why he doesn't win awards, but he doesn't seem to care. I'd love to see Clint win Best Actor, but I think there's close to zero chance of that ever happening, and I don't think Clint really cares all that much. Wendy's comments were more towards the filmmaking end, but again, I don't think that the films that he's directed reflect any search for awards. I think if he WAS looking for awards, he'd be making the uplifting, heartwarming, or deeply tragic films that people like Steven Spielberg make all the time. That's how to win the award. Clint makes very different films.
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« Reply #26 on: May 14, 2003, 01:07:48 PM » |
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Wendy: I was just annoyed when I read that he kept a bowtie that an extra on the Bird set made him to wear to the Oscars, and that he kept it as a goodluck charm, and then wore it to the Oscars for Unforgiven. This means he has awards on the brain. I don't mean to step on his toes, but I wish he were more like the Hollywood bad guys. Wow, that is annoying.  How on Earth is that something to be annoyed at? Bird was the type of movie that wins awards (just so there's no misunderstanding, Eastwood has been a huge jazz fan for much of his life, so this movie wasn't made because "he has award on the brain"). I'm with Daisy on this, Eastwood took such a bashing for so long, why not enjoy it when people start to recognize him for what he's contributed to film, which is quite a lot. Because of the type of films he makes, that doesn't qualify him to critical acclaim. Eastwood has been "anti-establishment" for a long time now, but guess who else has been: George Lucas, Francis Ford Coppola, Martin Scorsese, just to name three. I don't know about you, but Scorsese looked a little disappointed when he didn't win that Oscar for Gangs of New York. Apparently, he has awards on his brain.  So, do you see where we're coming from, Wendy (if that's really your name  )?
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« Reply #33 on: May 16, 2003, 02:09:09 PM » |
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