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Title: Eastwood Movie Challenge, Week Six: The Beguiled, Play Misty For Me
Post by: KC on February 27, 2016, 08:56:53 PM
This will be the thread for members taking part in the Eastwood Movie Challenge to discuss the Week Six films, The Beguiled and Play Misty For Me. Post any thoughts you have on watching or re-watching these movies here. Week Six runs from February 29 through March 6.

For the rest of the schedule, please see this post: Eastwood Movie Challenge schedule (http://www.clinteastwood.org/forums/index.php?topic=10312.0).

I'm starting the thread a couple of days early, so people will have time to find, borrow or buy the movies. If you've actually started watching early, feel free to post your comments while the memory is fresh.

(http://movieposters.2038.net/p/Beguiled%2C-The.jpg)  (http://movieposters.2038.net/p/Play-Misty-For-Me.jpg)
(By the way, the Beguiled poster is by Bob Peak (http://www.clinteastwood.org/forums/index.php?topic=1178.msg227653#msg227653).)

And if you haven't already, make a post in our Eastwood Movie Challenge Journal (http://www.clinteastwood.org/forums/index.php?topic=10285.0) and add the movies and dates you watch them, and keep updating it as we go through the Challenge so we can all keep track of where everyone stands.
Title: Re: Eastwood Movie Challenge, Week Six: The Beguiled, Play Misty For Me
Post by: Matt on February 27, 2016, 10:09:33 PM

(By the way, the Beguiled poster is by Bob Peak (http://www.clinteastwood.org/forums/index.php?topic=1178.msg227653#msg227653).)


I don't like the poster at all.  Sorry, Bob.   :(

But, I do like the movie. Looking forward to watching both of these again!

Title: Re: Eastwood Movie Challenge, Week Six: The Beguiled, Play Misty For Me
Post by: The Schofield Kid on February 28, 2016, 04:23:35 PM
Holy smokes!!! Anyone seeing this for the first time would be shocked by such a departure by Clint in his previous roles. Hell, I've probably seen it 5 or 6 times and it blew me away again. Clint as a bad guy. Bet no one saw that coming in 1970. What an interesting film. So dark, disturbing and I like the film but it's not one I watch a lot due to the subject matter and maybe because Clint plays a bad guy.

It's well made and some scenes jolt me. In the first five minutes he kisses an 11 year old girl! To keep her quiet? Maybe. Then crikey, the sound effects in the amputation scene are excruciating. They don't show the amputation but they don't have to, the sound and Clint's facial expressions are enough of an impact.

Not one of my favourite Eastwood films but it again shows how versatile Clint was and still is when he didn't get stuck in the same roles over and over again.

Have to agree about the poster, not good.
Title: Re: Eastwood Movie Challenge, Week Six: The Beguiled, Play Misty For Me
Post by: Christopher on February 28, 2016, 04:37:45 PM
Anyone seeing this for the first time would be shocked by such a departure by Clint in his previous roles.
Did your wife watch with you?

I'll be watching this one soon--maybe by tomorrow, so I'll comment more then, but I will say that I think Clint showed what sort of actor he could be with The Beguiled. Up until this, his performances were pretty similar. And while his "less is more" way of acting is great, it doesn't show a lot of range. I think The Beguiled is one of his best performances of his career. And I mentioned in the main movie challenge thread that this and Play Misty for Me are two of my overall favorites.
Title: Re: Eastwood Movie Challenge, Week Six: The Beguiled, Play Misty For Me
Post by: The Schofield Kid on February 28, 2016, 05:42:08 PM
Did your wife watch with you?

Yes. She didn't like it at all.
Title: Re: Eastwood Movie Challenge, Week Six: The Beguiled, Play Misty For Me
Post by: The Man With No Aim on February 28, 2016, 11:33:39 PM
This will be the thread for members taking part in the Eastwood Movie Challenge to discuss the Week Six films, The Beguiled and Play Misty For Me. Post any thoughts you have on watching or re-watching these movies here. Week Six runs from February 29 through March 6.

For the rest of the schedule, please see this post: Eastwood Movie Challenge schedule (http://www.clinteastwood.org/forums/index.php?topic=10312.0).

I'm starting the thread a couple of days early, so people will have time to find, borrow or buy the movies. If you've actually started watching early, feel free to post your comments while the memory is fresh.

(http://movieposters.2038.net/p/Beguiled%2C-The.jpg)  (http://movieposters.2038.net/p/Play-Misty-For-Me.jpg)
(By the way, the Beguiled poster is by Bob Peak (http://www.clinteastwood.org/forums/index.php?topic=1178.msg227653#msg227653).)

And if you haven't already, make a post in our Eastwood Movie Challenge Journal (http://www.clinteastwood.org/forums/index.php?topic=10285.0) and add the movies and dates you watch them, and keep updating it as we go through the Challenge so we can all keep track of where everyone stands.

ROFL.

The gun in the poster is apparently a Model 73 Peacemaker, first manufactured in 1873. I'll guess the setting of the movie is about 1863, ten years earlier. Definitely in the middle of the civil war, but I'm too lazy to look up when the Union Army was actively battling around Baton Rouge.The film itself is very period-correct including both props and behavior of the characters. And the film perfectly captured the ambience of southern Louisiana

Everything about Beguiled is absolutely top-notch. It should have garnered much more critical acclaim than it did. It could have easily won some Oscars.

Misty is a star vehicle and does the job without any disappointment. It also is a top-notch production. It cold have easily won the Oscar for Best Star Vehicle.


Man
Title: Re: Eastwood Movie Challenge, Week Six: The Beguiled, Play Misty For Me
Post by: Matt on February 29, 2016, 01:47:23 AM
Just finished watching The Beguiled. It's really fun watching these movies in chronological order so we can really feel how it was for Clint's career, and for his fans as they were released. After Two Mules for Sister Sara, and Coogan's Bluff before it, The Beguiled is on a completely different level. It's so perfect, and like SK said, such a different role for Clint, and it was a risky role for him to take, especially then. I still don't feel that he's gotten to upper tier Hollywood status yet... he's still mainly a western hero, and has been a sidekick in a few movies now. And then he does this Southern gothic film that borders on horror in the way that Misery would decades later.  Clint stretches his acting chops in this one, and he's great. Geraldine Page and Mae Mercer are both wonderful, and of course little Pamelyn Ferdin, who was perfect as Amy, the little 12 year old girl who picks the mushrooms.

I can see where it wouldn't be everyone's cup of tea, but there's no question that it's a quality film full of fantastic performances and beautiful cinematography.

A few years ago I found Pamelyn Ferdin online and wrote her when we were preparing our film discussion on The Beguiled. She responded, and we had a pleasant conversation. I think she was surprised to find that she was the only person (at that time, which was about 10 years ago) who had ever killed a Clint Eastwood character. I lost my email conversation, but hopefully I forwarded it to KC or posted it here... I couldn't find it via the search engine though. In any case, she was a very sweet lady and she said she absolutely loved working on The Beguiled and that it was the best film experience of her career.
Title: Re: Eastwood Movie Challenge, Week Six: The Beguiled, Play Misty For Me
Post by: Jed Cooper on February 29, 2016, 07:26:23 AM
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-oYjtPOt9ct4/Ui0CuXKi5YI/AAAAAAAAELg/Cv0xRvrQbQs/s320/The+Beguiled.jpeg) (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-skBu4bfZkM4/U2zb2JO6cdI/AAAAAAAANm8/mWtPi4YUecg/s350/1971-Play-Misty-For-Me-Clint-Eastwood.JPG)

Neither of these films made a strong impression on me upon first viewing.  I didn’t like The Beguiled at all and I thought Play Misty For Me was just okay.  I enjoyed Eastwood’s westerns and Dirty Harry films too much to be bothered with anything very different at first.  After giving them more chances over the course of time, I came to appreciate both.  The Beguiled is my least favorite of these two and one of Eastwood’s films that I revisit the least.  I think over time, as Clint's acting career comes to a close, I'll come to appreciate these more.


Title: Re: Eastwood Movie Challenge, Week Six: The Beguiled, Play Misty For Me
Post by: Christopher on February 29, 2016, 07:57:26 PM
I watched The Beguiled tonight, and yes, it's still a favorite of mine. The shot that Jed posted above is a scene that comes to mind when I talk about how good Eastwood's acting is in the movie. The look in his eyes communicates so well how he feels at that time.

Has anyone read the novel? I just looked on Amazon, and the sellers on that selling for around $80! :o Guess I won't be reading it anytime soon.
Title: Re: Eastwood Movie Challenge, Week Six: The Beguiled, Play Misty For Me
Post by: Elizabeth77 on February 29, 2016, 09:00:01 PM
I just finished watching The Beguiled.  It's not, and never will be, one of my favorite movies.  I do think it has fantastic acting from everyone, though.  I guess my main reason for not particularly liking this film is because of its obsession with sexual attraction, as if that's all there is in life.  I'm human, and I'll grant it comes naturally to most people, but I have a hard time identifying with stories where it's the prime motivating factor for everything that happens.  There are so many other reasons why people choose to do things, and they have nothing to do with sex.  The other major factor throughout the story that I can't identify with is jealousy.  It is something I was taught not to indulge in as a child and that has carried through into adulthood.  I'm sure that a natural disinclination toward jealous behavior helps, but I just can't understand letting it take over one's judgement.  I can understand Amy being more easily swayed by her emotions as she's still a little girl (although 12 isn't that little) and hasn't learned how to control them as well.

I've always been fascinated by the question of who is actually beguiled in this film.  Some of the definitions of beguile include: charm or enchant (someone), sometimes in a deceptive way; trick (someone) into doing something; or help (time) pass pleasantly. Another way of putting it, beguile is "thoroughly to deceive".  To some degree, all these meanings are present within the story.  Frankly, they all seemed intent on deceiving each other for various reasons.  They all seemed to deserve each other thoroughly.  McBurney was definitely no bargain.  Those flashbacks that show what he was really doing while he was weaving his stories to suit the occasion were very revealing.  It is those that keep me from feeling somewhat sorry for him.  He's definitely an opportunist, but he obviously never considers the risks of getting involved with so many women.  I've never liked guys who thought that they were charming fellows.

This was my second viewing and I noticed some details that I missed the first time around several years ago.  One thing in particular I wondered about.  Does Miss Farnsworth have the slightest idea what (or who) caused the sudden disappearance of her brother?  That seems fraught with strange possibilities.
Title: Re: Eastwood Movie Challenge, Week Six: The Beguiled, Play Misty For Me
Post by: The Man With No Aim on February 29, 2016, 10:29:45 PM
I just finished watching The Beguiled.  It's not, and never will be, one of my favorite movies.  I do think it has fantastic acting from everyone, though.  I guess my main reason for not particularly liking this film is because of its obsession with sexual attraction, as if that's all there is in life.  I'm human, and I'll grant it comes naturally to most people, but I have a hard time identifying with stories where it's the prime motivating factor for everything that happens.  There are so many other reasons why people choose to do things, and they have nothing to do with sex.  The other major factor throughout the story that I can't identify with is jealousy.  It is something I was taught not to indulge in as a child and that has carried through into adulthood.  I'm sure that a natural disinclination toward jealous behavior helps, but I just can't understand letting it take over one's judgement.  I can understand Amy being more easily swayed by her emotions as she's still a little girl (although 12 isn't that little) and hasn't learned how to control them as well.

I've always been fascinated by the question of who is actually beguiled in this film.  Some of the definitions of beguile include: charm or enchant (someone), sometimes in a deceptive way; trick (someone) into doing something; or help (time) pass pleasantly. Another way of putting it, beguile is "thoroughly to deceive".  To some degree, all these meanings are present within the story.  Frankly, they all seemed intent on deceiving each other for various reasons.  They all seemed to deserve each other thoroughly.  McBurney was definitely no bargain.  Those flashbacks that show what he was really doing while he was weaving his stories to suit the occasion were very revealing.  It is those that keep me from feeling somewhat sorry for him.  He's definitely an opportunist, but he obviously never considers the risks of getting involved with so many women.  I've never liked guys who thought that they were charming fellows.

This was my second viewing and I noticed some details that I missed the first time around several years ago.  One thing in particular I wondered about.  Does Miss Farnsworth have the slightest idea what (or who) caused the sudden disappearance of her brother?  That seems fraught with strange possibilities.



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I guess my main reason for not particularly liking this film is because of its obsession with sexual attraction, as if that's all there is in life.  I'm human, and I'll grant it comes naturally to most people, but I have a hard time identifying with stories where it's the prime motivating factor for everything that happens.

I respectfully submit to you that, in my impression, McBurney was manipulating all the inhabitants of the Girl School, not always simply indulging in his lusts. I assure you, it is possible for a man (or woman) to have a strong and almost never-stopping sex drive, but to control his drive in order to accomplish necessary goals. He was totally vulnerable and his life was obviously at stake. He had to use every "weapon" at his disposal to have any chance of surviving. As soon as he realized that this Yankee man without a tail was attractive to some of the girls in the Girl School, he set about to use their sexual lust for him as a lever to try to assure his survival. 

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The other major factor throughout the story that I can't identify with is jealousy.  It is something I was taught not to indulge in as a child and that has carried through into adulthood.

I regret to have to tell you that jealousy is a very powerful and very pervasive part of human relationships. It seems that you have had a somewhat sheltered life and I am very happy for you, that you have not had to deal with the ubiquitous and strong jealousies that I have witnessed and suffered so many times in my own virtually non-sheltered and rough life. Toward the end of the film, the jealousy between the teacher and the teen girl was at a titanic level and had to result in a cataclysmic conclusion. And when the 12 year old girl suffered both her great jealousy for the Yankee with no tail, and the murder of her dearest little friend, the outcome was inevitable.   

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This was my second viewing and I noticed some details that I missed the first time around several years ago.  One thing in particular I wondered about.  Does Miss Farnsworth have the slightest idea what (or who) caused the sudden disappearance of her brother?  That seems fraught with strange possibilities.
It seemed plain to me, although I may well have taken a unique personal opinon  that could well be wrong, that the brother and sister were, in light of the discovered old letters, having an incestual sexual tryst. According to the letters, I concluded that the brother eventually lost interest in the relationship and decided to move on. My surmise was that the sister had the ruling hand within the family, and the brother had to get away in order to end the incest.


Man
Title: Re: Eastwood Movie Challenge, Week Six: The Beguiled, Play Misty For Me
Post by: The Man With No Aim on February 29, 2016, 11:10:23 PM
Oh, that other film, Misty....

Misty is at the top of my personal list of Eastwood films that I really enjoy watching. It is not The Great American Novel or an epic like GBU or Josey Wales, but it is a flawless showcase for Clint's acting talent and star quality. At times I have thought of Clint as a role model, and this film personifies that model.

He is flawed to a degree, available to other women even while hoping for the renewed attention of his True Love, but exercising limited and poor judgment about their "reliability". Through it all, he has an innocence, an expectation that it will all come out all right.

I could probably watch this film an endless number of times and never get tired of it. I'd like to BE that character and live life like that. 

And never get over lusting for his CAR, that lovely little Jaguar. Come to me, little green kitty, kitty. I've gotten to where I really like BRG. British Racing Green.


Man
Title: Re: Eastwood Movie Challenge, Week Six: The Beguiled, Play Misty For Me
Post by: Matt on March 01, 2016, 12:17:17 AM

That was a great post, Man.  McB even tried to manipulate Hallie with something other than sex to try to gain his escape: the promise that if he got free he'd find her Ben, even if he had to go all the way to General Grant to do it.

According to the letters, I concluded that the brother eventually lost interest in the relationship and decided to move on. My surmise was that the sister had the ruling hand within the family, and the brother had to get away in order to end the incest.

That's what I'd always thought too... but now I think it might be darker than that.

If Martha is that jealous over McB sleeping with Carol instead of her that she'd cut off his leg, what would her reaction be if she knew her brother was after Hallie? Did she threaten him, force him to leave? Or is he buried in a similar sack in the front yard?

Martha says to McB "He isn't here now, he never will be." and she seems certain of it.

No one seems to be worried about him, even though there's a war going on, or expecting him back.

Was that the first poisonous mushroom dinner?

Things we will probably never know......


Title: Re: Eastwood Movie Challenge, Week Six: The Beguiled, Play Misty For Me
Post by: Matt on March 01, 2016, 12:44:44 AM

A few years ago I found Pamelyn Ferdin online and wrote her when we were preparing our film discussion on The Beguiled. She responded, and we had a pleasant conversation. I think she was surprised to find that she was the only person (at that time, which was about 10 years ago) who had ever killed a Clint Eastwood character. I lost my email conversation, but hopefully I forwarded it to KC or posted it here...

KC came through! I did forward her the email correspondence way back in April, 2003, and she still had it.  :-*

I invited Pamelyn to come by our board to check out our film discussion on The Beguiled, and told her how much we loved the movie and her acting as Amy. She responded:

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Dear Matt, I will try and go if I'm able to. Thanks, Feel free to give my web site or put the below on your discussion list.

As Amy, I felt very at home. I am very much like her. This movie helped me realize that animals are more than mere objects for humans. They have feelings, wants, needs and desires to be free. Like her crow that had the broken leg, her turtle who was her best friend, etc., she was a girl of the earth and wanted to protect the weak against the strong.

Clint gave me two doves at the end of the movie because he called me his little dove. The first thing I did when I got home was to take them to a place where they would be safe, and set them free. Amy would have never put birds in a cage where all they do is wish to be free and to fly on the wings that God gave them. -Pamelyn

I really, REALLY appreciate your interest and thoughtful e-mail message to me. I wish I could spend time getting to know all the wonderful folks who have written me. I want you to know that even though I can't personally reply back to each one every time, I read all the e-mail I receive. You have touched my heart and I truly appreciate your words more than you could ever know.

I am busy doing some voice over work right now. I also do lectures, seminars and guest appearances speaking about my past and current career in the entertainment industry. They are very upbeat, enjoyable and honest!

If you would like a picture or pictures autographed by me personally as well as sent out to you personally, I would be honored to do that. A portion of the money received for my autographed pictures goes to help rescue animals and educate the public on what they can do to decrease animal suffering. My mission in life is to try and help alleviate the abuses and misery perpetrated upon animals that most folks don't know or think about.

If you would like to get an autographed picture or arrange for me to speak, please go to my web site at www.pamelynferdin.com

Remember spay and neuter ALL your companion animals and always "adopt" a wonderful, loving cat or dog from a shelter rather than buying one from a breeder or pet store. As I always like to say "YOUR ANIMALS ARE CUTERED, WHEN THEY'RE NEUTERED! :<)
Also, if you would like to learn about what you can do to help animals and the earth please check out three of my favorite web sites: www.adoptmenow.com www.veganoutreach.org www.peta-online.org www.pcrm.org

And finally, I am so flattered that I brought you some happiness by my acting career, and please keep in touch by visiting and e-mailing me at my official web site which is constantly updated.

Love and Peace for all Beings with Whom we share this Planet, Pamelyn Ferdin

I just checked her site, and there's some great pictures there from The Beguiled:   http://pamelynferdin.com/shop/

If anyone wants one, $25 and she'll personally autograph it for you -- just add a note. I'm tempted to order one and ask her to sign "I picked some mushrooms just for you!"  But, I seriously don't think I want anymore Eastwood collectible stuff.  If anyone else is interested, the money goes to a good cause -- helping animals.



Title: Re: Eastwood Movie Challenge, Week Six: The Beguiled, Play Misty For Me
Post by: The Man With No Aim on March 01, 2016, 12:49:37 AM
That was a great post, Man.  McB even tried to manipulate Hallie with something other than sex to try to gain his escape: the promise that if he got free he'd find her Ben, even if he had to go all the way to General Grant to do it.

That's what I'd always thought too... but now I think it might be darker than that.

If Martha is that jealous over McB sleeping with Carol instead of her that she'd cut off his leg, what would her reaction be if she knew her brother was after Hallie? Did she threaten him, force him to leave? Or is he buried in a similar sack in the front yard?

Martha says to McB "He isn't here now, he never will be." and she seems certain of it.

No one seems to be worried about him, even though there's a war going on, or expecting him back.

Was that the first poisonous mushroom dinner?

Things we will probably never know......




Well, Matt, you have certainly raised some possibilities that really fall into place good, although, I'm ashamed to say that I failed to get them until you wrote them here.

No doubt about it, I got to dig up that disk and watch it again, this is one Southern Gothic that may have more dimensions to it than first hits the eye.

The 12 year old girl sure seemed to be confident about which mushrooms were happy meals and which ones killed you cold dead.

Man 
Title: Re: Eastwood Movie Challenge, Week Six: The Beguiled, Play Misty For Me
Post by: KC on March 01, 2016, 03:35:17 AM
I haven't re-watched The Beguiled yet, but isn't it possible that the brother was killed in the war? ??? I seem to recall thinking that when I've seen it before.
Title: Re: Eastwood Movie Challenge, Week Six: The Beguiled, Play Misty For Me
Post by: Matt on March 01, 2016, 06:09:28 AM
It doesn't come up in the dialogue. You'd think if that was the case, it would have since McB was an enemy soldier. But, it's a possibility as much as any other.
Title: Re: Eastwood Movie Challenge, Week Six: The Beguiled, Play Misty For Me
Post by: Christopher on March 01, 2016, 06:52:45 AM
I do remember when Pamelyn Ferdin wrote to Matt. Actually an autographed picture is tempting.

Also I forgot to mention when I watched the movie last night, that the crow that Amy had tied to the railing was dead. I don't know if I've ever noticed that before. Perhaps not much makes it out of that house alive.

I remember the first time I ever saw The Beguiled. I recorded it from commercial TV, probably either TNT or TBS (they showed a lot of Eastwood movies back in the day), and the night I recorded it, I flipped it on there for just a moment to see what it was like. It was the scene where McB takes the tumble down the stairs and Edwina yells that she hopes he's dead. The movie had been advertised as "Clint's most unusual picture" or something like that, and that did seem to be the case. Anyhow, I think that's all I saw of it that night, so I flipped the channel back to wherever so I could watch the whole movie without knowing too much more about what was happening.
Title: Re: Eastwood Movie Challenge, Week Six: The Beguiled, Play Misty For Me
Post by: Elizabeth77 on March 01, 2016, 07:39:39 AM
I haven't re-watched The Beguiled yet, but isn't it possible that the brother was killed in the war? ??? I seem to recall thinking that when I've seen it before.

It's completely possible, but did no one notice the very small flashback scene with Hallie and Martha's brother in the barn?  There was a pitchfork involved and I just wondered if that had anything to do with his disappearance.  Like Matt said, maybe there's another sack buried on the property.  The scene goes by very quickly, but it was quite amazing when I went through it step by step to get the screencaps below.  The flashback occurs while McBurney is talking to Hallie while he's preparing to go down into the cellar to get drunk.

(http://i.imgur.com/ju8HhO2.jpg?1) (http://imgur.com/ju8HhO2)

(http://i.imgur.com/aBqTLZt.jpg?1) (http://imgur.com/aBqTLZt)
Title: Re: Eastwood Movie Challenge, Week Six: The Beguiled, Play Misty For Me
Post by: Matt on March 01, 2016, 09:50:42 AM
Yep, and remember that Miles was going to sell Ben, but Ben ran away. He probably didn't want anyone stopping him from taking Hallie whenever he wanted. Or, until his sister found out.  :o  (Speculation, of course.)
Title: Re: Eastwood Movie Challenge, Week Six: The Beguiled, Play Misty For Me
Post by: Elizabeth77 on March 01, 2016, 04:18:33 PM
Just finished watching Play Misty for Me.  I think I appreciated it more this time around.  I hadn't forgotten how it ended, but I'd surely forgotten the chain of events leading to the finish.  I think the one thing I noticed this time was how the passage of time and the lulling of fear (because they think Evelyn is safely out of the way) is portrayed.  It lulls you along with it.  I really like the pacing of the whole movie.  I'm not fond of the story line because it's just not my type, but it sure is good story telling.  I really didn't like it the first time I saw it, but it seems to have grown on me.
Title: Re: Eastwood Movie Challenge, Week Six: The Beguiled, Play Misty For Me
Post by: The Schofield Kid on March 01, 2016, 09:28:13 PM
Play Misty For Me. The original Fatal Attraction? I'm sure Glenn Close would have watched this to get some tips on how to play a psycho. If there were rabbits in this film, I'm sure Evelyn would have boiled them. I always rated Andy Robinson the best psycho from an Eastwood film but I could easily say Jessica Walter each time after viewing the film. That was such a great performance. It's a shame she didn't work with Clint again.

This was Clint's directorial debut and he did a great job. And to show off his hometown of Carmel and have Don Siegel in the cast as well.

One thing that nagged me watching yesterday was at the end when the police sergeant turns up at Tobie's place and it's all dark, he doesn't pull out his gun, just a torch. I mean if there is a psycho on the loose, wouldn't a cop be ready to defend himself?

I'm not fond of the story line because it's just not my type, but it sure is good story telling. 

I could say the same about both movies this week.
Title: Re: Eastwood Movie Challenge, Week Six: The Beguiled, Play Misty For Me
Post by: The Man With No Aim on March 02, 2016, 03:29:03 AM
Play Misty For Me. The original Fatal Attraction? I'm sure Glenn Close would have watched this to get some tips on how to play a psycho. If there were rabbits in this film, I'm sure Evelyn would have boiled them. I always rated Andy Robinson the best psycho from an Eastwood film but I could easily say Jessica Walter each time after viewing the film. That was such a great performance. It's a shame she didn't work with Clint again.

This was Clint's directorial debut and he did a great job. And to show off his hometown of Carmel and have Don Siegel in the cast as well.

One thing that nagged me watching yesterday was at the end when the police sergeant turns up at Tobie's place and it's all dark, he doesn't pull out his gun, just a torch. I mean if there is a psycho on the loose, wouldn't a cop be ready to defend himself?

I could say the same about both movies this week.

Yeah, I was jarred by that same thing too. I finally guessed that maybe the Carmel community is so laid-back that even the constable is expecting no bad outcome and is therefore not living in a state of FULL ALERT.


Man
Title: Re: Eastwood Movie Challenge, Week Six: The Beguiled, Play Misty For Me
Post by: The Man With No Aim on March 02, 2016, 03:36:50 AM
Just finished watching Play Misty for Me.  I think I appreciated it more this time around.  I hadn't forgotten how it ended, but I'd surely forgotten the chain of events leading to the finish.  I think the one thing I noticed this time was how the passage of time and the lulling of fear (because they think Evelyn is safely out of the way) is portrayed.  It lulls you along with it.  I really like the pacing of the whole movie.  I'm not fond of the story line because it's just not my type, but it sure is good story telling.  I really didn't like it the first time I saw it, but it seems to have grown on me.

That's it the pacing.

I think I remember saying that I could watch this film over and over again, but was not able to pin down exactly why, the PACING is one of those important factors adding up to my having that opinion.

Thank you for saying it whereas I was unable to express it well.

This is really a very watchable Eastwood film.


Man
Title: Re: Eastwood Movie Challenge, Week Six: The Beguiled, Play Misty For Me
Post by: The Man With No Aim on March 02, 2016, 04:46:12 AM
I haven't re-watched The Beguiled yet, but isn't it possible that the brother was killed in the war? ??? I seem to recall thinking that when I've seen it before.

Best I have been able to figure out, the setting of the film is supposed to be the first 6 months of 1863 during which Grant and the Union army was actively battling round about Vicksburg to gain control of the Mississippi River as a grand military tactic. Perhaps confusingly, the film was actually (partially) shot down round Baton Rouge where they found a convenient old huge plantation mansion. But, I think, it was supposed to be set near Vicksburg during early 1863.

We are shown several Sister memory flashbacks in which the lovers are a decade or maybe two, younger than they are in the real time of the film. We would expect that a fond memory of a loved one would be the most recent available memory of Good Times with them. But the memory flashbacks are at lest ten years before film real time.

Man
Title: Re: Eastwood Movie Challenge, Week Six: The Beguiled, Play Misty For Me
Post by: The Man With No Aim on March 02, 2016, 05:06:47 AM
It's completely possible, but did no one notice the very small flashback scene with Hallie and Martha's brother in the barn?  There was a pitchfork involved and I just wondered if that had anything to do with his disappearance.  Like Matt said, maybe there's another sack buried on the property.  The scene goes by very quickly, but it was quite amazing when I went through it step by step to get the screencaps below.  The flashback occurs while McBurney is talking to Hallie while he's preparing to go down into the cellar to get drunk.

(http://i.imgur.com/ju8HhO2.jpg?1) (http://imgur.com/ju8HhO2)

(http://i.imgur.com/aBqTLZt.jpg?1) (http://imgur.com/aBqTLZt)

It really adds up good that Brother vanished because of the misadventure with Halle.

Halle told McB that "Brother finally broke up me (Halle) and Ben." Why would Halle take it personally unless Brother had taken it personally with Halle?

Halle was a ball of fire. If Brother had tried to rape her, there is no doubt in my mind that she would have tried to defend herself. Successfully.

Or maybe Halle just scared away Brother without harming him.

When Sister found about it, she would have been really pi$$ed that Brother lover had betrayed her love, and may well have not accused Halle of murder. Or maybe Brother was still alive but was scheduled for a dinner he would remember for the rest of his life.

Unravelling this plot is like peeling an onion. Take off one layer, and there is still one more to go.  Always one more to go.


Man
Title: Re: Eastwood Movie Challenge, Week Six: The Beguiled, Play Misty For Me
Post by: -satu- on March 02, 2016, 01:18:44 PM
I just finished The Beguiled.

In my opinion this film is, in some parts, very disturbing. I haven't found the highest appreciation for this film yet. It was a second viewing for me.

I guess it must the manipulation that many of the characters use in their advantage. Manipulation and the flashbacks made it dark. I had to check the genre from my dvd case, says drama. I think this film has some characteristics of a thriller or a psychological thriller.

There were some scenes that kept me glued to my chair. I agree about the amputation scene with Schofield Kid, I think it was well made. It made me wrinkle my nose even though they didn't show it.

I felt what he must have felt when he realized he had lost his leg. The look on his face, well done.

All in all, I could rewatch it again for sure, but maybe not too often.
Title: Re: Eastwood Movie Challenge, Week Six: The Beguiled, Play Misty For Me
Post by: Matt on March 02, 2016, 01:33:51 PM
Did anyone see the similarities between The Beguiled and Misery, the horror film based on Stephen King's novel and starring Kathy Bates?

I'm not sure King wasn't greatly inspired by The Beguiled when he wrote it.
Title: Re: Eastwood Movie Challenge, Week Six: The Beguiled, Play Misty For Me
Post by: Christopher on March 02, 2016, 01:37:35 PM
Did anyone see the similarities between The Beguiled and Misery, the horror film based on Stephen King's novel and starring Kathy Bates?

I'm not sure King wasn't greatly inspired by The Beguiled when he wrote it.
I've never made that connection, but that is interesting!
Title: Re: Eastwood Movie Challenge, Week Six: The Beguiled, Play Misty For Me
Post by: Doug on March 02, 2016, 04:17:28 PM
It's completely possible, but did no one notice the very small flashback scene with Hallie and Martha's brother in the barn?  There was a pitchfork involved and I just wondered if that had anything to do with his disappearance.  Like Matt said, maybe there's another sack buried on the property.  The scene goes by very quickly, but it was quite amazing when I went through it step by step to get the screencaps below.  The flashback occurs while McBurney is talking to Hallie while he's preparing to go down into the cellar to get drunk.


I don't have the dialogue transcript, but McBurney suggests the idea of seducing her, and her response is pretty clear that's not going to happen, and then we see the flashback with the brother attempting to rape her. It's possible she simply thwarted his attempt, and would have killed him if he hadn't backed off. That seems to be left open, but then there's the letters which McBurney reads and are so embarrassing to her, and I guess I've always assumed they were written while he was away in the war.
Title: Re: Eastwood Movie Challenge, Week Six: The Beguiled, Play Misty For Me
Post by: -satu- on March 03, 2016, 01:18:54 PM
Play Misty For Me was an enjoyable film this time around. Second viewing for me, like with The Beguiled yesterday.

I think Jessica Walter makes a great psycho for this film, great acting on her part.

I could remember everything until the festival. After that, my mind was blank. So it was nice to watch it when I couldn't remember what would happen next.

I appreciate this film. I think Clint did a great job directing his first film. It's not something I would watch too often but I did like it. The car was sweet, and I liked the music in this film.
Title: Re: Eastwood Movie Challenge, Week Six: The Beguiled, Play Misty For Me
Post by: Rawhide7 on March 03, 2016, 03:12:04 PM
Play misty for me is a very good thriller. My second viewing and I enjoyed it.

The beguiled is not my favorite movie to watch. But it does have some good scenes. Didn't care for the amputation part.
Title: Re: Eastwood Movie Challenge, Week Six: The Beguiled, Play Misty For Me
Post by: Christopher on March 03, 2016, 08:18:39 PM
Both movies for this week are terrific, and they both hold up very well. I watched Play Misty for Me tonight. For one thing, the whole movie is beautifully shot. There's that contrast between the attack on Birdie, the housekeeper, and then not long after we get the love scene with "The First Time Ever I Saw Your Face" playing over it. Both scenes are wonderful. The first is chilling, and the second is romantic and works to establish that the two are getting things back on track.

I also watched some of the special features on the DVD (this has got to be one of the better Eastwood releases as far as special features go), both the look back at the making of the film, which is a 49 minute documentary, and then a short about Don Siegel and Clint working on The Beguiled and Misty. Eastwood makes the point that if it wasn't for these two movies, he might not have ever been able to stray off the path of what was expected of him. These two movies are two of his best, so I'm obviously glad he chose them, and I agree that they were quite different than anything he'd done up until then (Paint Your Wagon was obviously a bit different too).
Title: Re: Eastwood Movie Challenge, Week Six: The Beguiled, Play Misty For Me
Post by: Rawhide7 on March 03, 2016, 10:33:35 PM
very good points Christopher!
Title: Re: Eastwood Movie Challenge, Week Six: The Beguiled, Play Misty For Me
Post by: The Schofield Kid on March 03, 2016, 11:55:04 PM
I also watched some of the special features on the DVD (this has got to be one of the better Eastwood releases as far as special features go), both the look back at the making of the film, which is a 49 minute documentary, and then a short about Don Siegel and Clint working on The Beguiled and Misty. Eastwood makes the point that if it wasn't for these two movies, he might not have ever been able to stray off the path of what was expected of him. These two movies are two of his best, so I'm obviously glad he chose them, and I agree that they were quite different than anything he'd done up until then (Paint Your Wagon was obviously a bit different too).

I always regret not buying Play Misty For Me on DVD years ago. I waited for it to come down in price. It never did and I've never seen it rereleased down here, apart from being in sets. Which I ended up getting just for one movie.
Title: Re: Eastwood Movie Challenge, Week Six: The Beguiled, Play Misty For Me
Post by: The Man With No Aim on March 04, 2016, 01:05:02 AM
Quote
I always regret not buying Play Misty For Me on DVD years ago. I waited for it to come down in price. It never did and I've never seen it rereleased down here, apart from being in sets. Which I ended up getting just for one movie.
Call me Mister Lucky.

About two years ago, or maybe three, in all the excitement I lost count myself, I found a 3 disk set in the cheap store for about $5 US.

It has Beguiled, Misty, Eiger Sanction, and, Coogan. All good faves of mine.

Hope your luck improves.  :)


Man

PS I advise against improving your luck the McB method. Look what it did for him.  :buck2:
Title: Re: Eastwood Movie Challenge, Week Six: The Beguiled, Play Misty For Me
Post by: The Man With No Aim on March 04, 2016, 01:20:52 AM
Did anyone see the similarities between The Beguiled and Misery, the horror film based on Stephen King's novel and starring Kathy Bates?

I'm not sure King wasn't greatly inspired by The Beguiled when he wrote it.

Have not had the good luck to have happened to see Misery, but will be on the lookout for it now.

Kathy Bates is the counterpart of Sister girl school owner in Beguiled, I guess? She is GOOD in edgy roles.

Man
Title: Re: Eastwood Movie Challenge, Week Six: The Beguiled, Play Misty For Me
Post by: Rawhide7 on March 04, 2016, 01:27:39 AM
I always regret not buying Play Misty For Me on DVD years ago. I waited for it to come down in price. It never did and I've never seen it rereleased down here, apart from being in sets. Which I ended up getting just for one movie.

Sk,

I do the same thing when buying movies. I wont pay more than about $10 for a DVD movie. Every once in a blue moon I might find an older movie that I had trouble finding in the past that is available now but the price is like $15 to $20 I have spent that much maybe once or twice on ones I really wanted and couldn't find. Otherwise I stay within $10 usually. And I absolutely will not go any higher than $20 no matter how bad I want the movie. I recently saw a DVD movie that I wanted really bad but they don't produce that movie on any type of format anymore. So my only option was to get it from a third party. But the price range was like between 40 to 50 dollars. So I did not get it. But yeah I usually wait for the price to come down. Like the Creed movie is currently $20. But if I wait like a few months or so I know that it will come down to my price range. And this movie will be available for several yrs. whereas misty is an older movie.
Title: Re: Eastwood Movie Challenge, Week Six: The Beguiled, Play Misty For Me
Post by: Matt on March 04, 2016, 01:58:10 AM
Have not had the good luck to have happened to see Misery, but will be on the lookout for it now.

Kathy Bates is the counterpart of Sister girl school owner in Beguiled, I guess? She is GOOD in edgy roles.

Man

Yep, and good enough to win the Academy Award for Best Actress in a Leading Role. 

It's not a period film, and it's not a remake, so you'll see a lot of differences, but I think also a lot of similarities. You'll probably enjoy it.
Title: Re: Eastwood Movie Challenge, Week Six: The Beguiled, Play Misty For Me
Post by: Christopher on March 04, 2016, 07:33:26 AM
Have not had the good luck to have happened to see Misery, but will be on the lookout for it now.

Kathy Bates is the counterpart of Sister girl school owner in Beguiled, I guess? She is GOOD in edgy roles.

Man
Misery is based on a novel by Stephen King about a famous novelist who is involved in a car accident, and he is found by the Kathy Bates character, who is his biggest fan. And she's crazy. There are some similarities that can be drawn, but the storylines are different. It is a good movie (one of the best King adaptations, I'd say).
Title: Re: Eastwood Movie Challenge, Week Six: The Beguiled, Play Misty For Me
Post by: Christopher on March 05, 2016, 04:14:19 PM
Eastwood mentions Fatal Attraction in the Play Misty for Me DVD documentary. I've never seen Fatal Attraction, but it was interesting to hear Clint address that movie, since the plot line is so close to Misty. He said that in that movie, the character is married, so obviously there's some wrong doing there, and liked the fact that Dave in Misty is a single guy (though he's obviously been unfaithful quite a bit to his girlfriend).

Fatal Attraction is currently on Netflix, so I might try to watch that soon, since I would be interested in see how the two movies compare. I know it's always been a pretty popular movie, so I'm sure some others here have seen the movie. Anybody a fan of it? And there's been some other movies with that basic plot line, but I know Fatal Attraction is best known.
Title: Re: Eastwood Movie Challenge, Week Six: The Beguiled, Play Misty For Me
Post by: Matt on March 05, 2016, 05:56:00 PM
Yeah, I liked Fatal Attraction. The acting is great from both Michael Douglas and Glenn Close. It's every man's worse fear put on film. You should watch it.
Title: Re: Eastwood Movie Challenge, Week Six: The Beguiled, Play Misty For Me
Post by: Matt on March 06, 2016, 03:04:03 AM
I really enjoyed Play Misty for Me. It's like a tourism film for Carmel... so gorgeous. And back then, it looks like it was so nice and quaint, and quiet. Is it still like that at all, or is it built up and a tourist mecca?

Dave has a great wardrobe. I want some of those shirts.

(http://i.imgur.com/cX7PwdK.jpg)

There was so much gold in this shot, it reminded me of Trump's NYC condo, just a touch more modest.  ;)

(http://www.idesignarch.com/wp-content/uploads/Donald-Melania-Trump-Manhattan-Penthouse_3.jpg)

But I digress...

There are a few moments that just don't seem necessary, maybe they're padding to bring it to feature length... the Monterrey Jazz Festival, and the song sequence "The First Time Ever I Saw Your Face".  And speaking of that song sequence.... this looks like clover, but holy hell... that clover is about the size of her hand.

(http://i.imgur.com/fY9aAeU.jpg)

Here's one of my favorite shots ... which also takes place during that song:

(http://i.imgur.com/UqXdIx7.jpg)

The way it's shot makes it look like a 60' wall of water.

As for the story, I love it. Don't you just want to tell Dave to shut this thing down with Evelyn earlier? And he keeps going for the easy sex. Is there such a thing as casual sex? You really never know if the other person is as casual as they say they are. This story... maybe not to such a violent extreme... happens all the time.

It's great acting from Clint and Jessica Walter. Don Siegel was very good as the bartender also.
Title: Re: Eastwood Movie Challenge, Week Six: The Beguiled, Play Misty For Me
Post by: The Schofield Kid on March 06, 2016, 03:13:42 AM
It's like a tourism film for Carmel... so gorgeous. And back then, it looks like it was so nice and quaint, and quiet. Is it still like that at all, or is it built up and a tourist mecca?

My wife and I were there in May 2014. It was a Wednesday and trying to find a place to park the car was a nightmare. We went through the week to try and avoid that but it was just like a weekend. Plenty of tourist shops and not quiet at all but it was great place.

I spoke about it Here (http://www.clinteastwood.org/forums/index.php?topic=4315.msg217700#msg217700).
Title: Re: Eastwood Movie Challenge, Week Six: The Beguiled, Play Misty For Me
Post by: Doug on March 06, 2016, 03:22:22 AM

There are a few moments that just don't seem necessary, maybe they're padding to bring it to feature length... the Monterrey Jazz Festival, and the song sequence "The First Time Ever I Saw Your Face".

Well, I think they use the Monterrey Jazz Festival to throw in the reference to Tobie's new roommate. I like that sequence. I'm not crazy about the other montage, but I think it was used as a shortcut to move forward Dave and Tobie's relationship. So I actually think those scenes are the opposite of padding--they're getting necessary story elements out of the way to speed up the pace.

And you can have Dave's shirts, I'll take the house. Wow, how amazing it'd be to wake up with that view everyday.
Title: Re: Eastwood Movie Challenge, Week Six: The Beguiled, Play Misty For Me
Post by: Matt on March 06, 2016, 03:28:47 AM

And you can have Dave's shirts, I'll take the house. Wow, how amazing it'd be to wake up with that view everyday.

That was Tobie's house. I never noticed the little detail in there that her father left it to her (with the payments), thus the need for all those roommates who seemed to keep leaving (she'd have to push me over the cliff to get me to leave).

I might start thrift shopping for some good 70's shirts. We'll be getting to my all time favorite wardrobe movie Thunderbolt & Lightfoot soon enough. They're awesome.
Title: Re: Eastwood Movie Challenge, Week Six: The Beguiled, Play Misty For Me
Post by: Doug on March 06, 2016, 03:44:43 AM
The picture you posted is from Dave's house. But I guess you meant the view. Maybe his house doesn't have the ocean front view...I might have assumed it did, but to be honest I'd still take Dave's place.

Anyhow, I was going to say when you talk about his story happening all the time that way back in the day maybe twenty-five years ago I'd often go over to my friend's and bring a movie and one time I brought over Play Misty for Me, and it freaked him out a bit as he'd dealt with a very similar situation. Obviously not so violent, but when Evelyn goes into his bathroom, he knew right away what was going to happen from his own experience. 
Title: Re: Eastwood Movie Challenge, Week Six: The Beguiled, Play Misty For Me
Post by: Matt on March 06, 2016, 04:06:15 AM
Yeah, I didn't think Dave had a great view... DJ's are paid just a hair over minimum wage. I figure his little pad is in someone else's backyard or something.  ;D

Title: Re: Eastwood Movie Challenge, Week Six: The Beguiled, Play Misty For Me
Post by: KC on March 06, 2016, 09:23:40 AM
Yeah, I didn't think Dave had a great view... DJ's are paid just a hair over minimum wage.

All of which he plainly spent on his car.

(http://www.imcdb.org/i014265.jpg)
Title: Re: Eastwood Movie Challenge, Week Six: The Beguiled, Play Misty For Me
Post by: Matt on March 06, 2016, 10:39:48 AM
 ;D  Yeah, what's up with that?
Title: Re: Eastwood Movie Challenge, Week Six: The Beguiled, Play Misty For Me
Post by: Elizabeth77 on March 06, 2016, 02:29:18 PM
There are a few moments that just don't seem necessary, maybe they're padding to bring it to feature length... the Monterrey Jazz Festival, and the song sequence "The First Time Ever I Saw Your Face".  And speaking of that song sequence.... this looks like clover, but holy hell... that clover is about the size of her hand.

No, the Monterrey Jazz Festival was not necessary in forwarding the picture.  Tobie's new roommate could have been introduced some other way, but I think you could give Play Misty for Me a secondary title and call it My (Clint's) Favorite Places.  The song sequence bothered me the first time I saw it.  I really didn't appreciate it and I could have done without it.  I still could, but I think it serves two useful purposes.  It provides us with a sense of Dave and Tobie's growing relationship and the passage of time, all without words but lots of pictures.  I think both the song sequence (which reminds me of a music video slipped into the middle of the movie) and the jazz festival serve an important part in lulling the audience into some degree of security regarding Evelyn.  After the mounting tension that came before, it has got to be done somehow.
Title: Re: Eastwood Movie Challenge, Week Six: The Beguiled, Play Misty For Me
Post by: Matt on March 06, 2016, 03:22:57 PM
I think both the song sequence (which reminds me of a music video slipped into the middle of the movie) and the jazz festival serve an important part in lulling the audience into some degree of security regarding Evelyn.  After the mounting tension that came before, it has got to be done somehow.

Yeah, that's a good point. It does release the tension that was building so that it can strike again.
Title: Re: Eastwood Movie Challenge, Week Six: The Beguiled, Play Misty For Me
Post by: Christopher on March 06, 2016, 03:37:22 PM
If anything, the jazz festival sequence might go on a little too long. Just as I was thinking it was going on a bit long, there was the bit of dialogue about Tobie's new roommate, and then it wrapped up shortly after that. But I like the sequence and wouldn't have wanted it cut, just maybe trimmed a little.
Title: Re: Eastwood Movie Challenge, Week Six: The Beguiled, Play Misty For Me
Post by: Doug on March 07, 2016, 06:09:34 AM
No, the Monterrey Jazz Festival was not necessary in forwarding the picture.  Tobie's new roommate could have been introduced some other way, but I think you could give Play Misty for Me a secondary title and call it My (Clint's) Favorite Places.

Given where we are in the movie, they would have had to invent some other scene to make the roommate reference in, and it's not just the reference to the roommate that is important but doing it in such a way for the audience not to immediately connect the new roommate to Evelyn. The jazz festival is a really good way of misdirecting the audience. Of course, the jazz festival itself isn't part of the plot.

And you're right, Clint really shows off Carmel in this film, and it's part of why the movie endures so well and gives it that special vibe.
Title: Re: Eastwood Movie Challenge, Week Six: The Beguiled, Play Misty For Me
Post by: Doug on March 07, 2016, 06:13:06 AM

Dave has a great wardrobe. I want some of those shirts.

(http://i.imgur.com/cX7PwdK.jpg)

I meant to say this before...you must really like Kramer's wardrobe in the Seinfeld show. You must be a real hipster doofus.  ;D (I like those shirts too.)
Title: Re: Eastwood Movie Challenge, Week Six: The Beguiled, Play Misty For Me
Post by: Matt on March 07, 2016, 11:10:02 AM
Guilty as charged.  ;D
Title: Re: Eastwood Movie Challenge, Week Six: The Beguiled, Play Misty For Me
Post by: higashimori on March 08, 2016, 09:19:00 PM

 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Beguiled

 "The basic desire of women to castrate men"!! so Gentlemen, Take Gard of you !!  :knuppel2:

 I'm curious how she was if Jeanne Moreau was the headmistress Marta ?!

 (https://theanadromist.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/the-beguiled.jpg)

I was very shocked when I saw" The Beguiled " for the first time, a long time ago!
I received a feeling that was completely devastated by this movie!  :-\
Because this was a totally different style of Clint's previous movies and more he was not The Good!! and was not my Hero!!  :(
But each time after several times I watched this becomes very interesting, very good movie! It's now one of my favorite!  8)

'' The Beguiled ' is a film with the terrific story of jealousy, revenge, deceit, treachery and manipulation!!  :-X
There are lesbians, incest and a menage a trois(in the scene of a dream) there are a lot of things for 7 women and one man!  :o
The scene that McB killed threw a turtle Randolph of Amy was very very shocking than amputated McB's leg scene, to me!!!  >:(
Then McB was well merited to be killed for that only, by Amy !! :knuppel2:

It had been foretold that McB will be killed, in the theme song sung by Eastwood!... "After the dove flew away crow appears carrying the death .."
And the presence of injured wing crow that Amy has been care. That crow was hanging dead in the last scene...It must be the puppet of McB...!! :-\ 
His pale died face was terrific !!   Clint was giving a very good performance!!  8)
In " The Beguiled " 's opening credits feature sepia image of Civil War, the photo of first soldier in the stretcher after the photo of Lincoln, I found that it was very similar to McB!

And we can say that after the theme song sung by Clint opening and final credit, " The Beguiled " was the antiwar drama?!
Title: Re: Eastwood Movie Challenge, Week Six: The Beguiled, Play Misty For Me
Post by: higashimori on March 08, 2016, 09:30:59 PM

 (https://demonsresume.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/play-misty-for-me-1971-don-siegel-jessica-walter-clint-eastwood-pic-2.jpg)

I love " Play Misty For Me "!! :)
There were many Clint's favorite things load in this movie! 8)  It was nice and can breather at " The Monterey Jazz Festival " where was between Evelyn's implacable stalker! >:(  Driving his nice car, Dave shows us the beauty of the West Coast scenery, splendor sunset and beautiful music!  8)
It is interesting that it was very similar with Evelyn's abnormal aggressivity and her violence attitude and the act of violence, yelling with all slang that McB suffered by Edwina in the scene of the stairs in the " The Beguiled ''!!  ???
Title: Re: Eastwood Movie Challenge, Week Six: The Beguiled, Play Misty For Me
Post by: Matt on March 08, 2016, 10:25:27 PM

In " The Beguiled " 's opening credits feature sepia image of Civil War, the photo of first soldier in the stretcher after the photo of Lincoln, I found that it was very similar to McB!


I thought so too! I read in Siegel's book that they just happened to find that photo, and the soldier resembled Clint so much that they used it. Wow. I thought it was him.
Title: Re: Eastwood Movie Challenge, Week Six: The Beguiled, Play Misty For Me
Post by: palooka on March 09, 2016, 04:04:27 AM
I'm now at least a week behind. PMFM done. The beguiled and Dirty Harry next.
Title: Re: Eastwood Movie Challenge, Week Six: The Beguiled, Play Misty For Me
Post by: Hemlock on March 09, 2016, 05:35:53 AM
Damn,if only I had time to write something other than "just watched both of the films and loved them".Especially Play Misty For Me which is permanently on my top 5 of Eastwood films...than again you guys have said pretty much all that there is to say about these films.Very intresting read.
Title: Re: Eastwood Movie Challenge, Week Six: The Beguiled, Play Misty For Me
Post by: The Man With No Aim on March 11, 2016, 11:45:45 PM
All of which he plainly spent on his car.

(http://www.imcdb.org/i014265.jpg)

Me want dat CAR or one exactly like it.

Manwith
Title: Re: Eastwood Movie Challenge, Week Six: The Beguiled, Play Misty For Me
Post by: KC on March 13, 2016, 09:04:14 PM
Dave has a great wardrobe. I want some of those shirts.

(http://i.imgur.com/kZsoeVo.jpg)

I don't think they're still in business. But you can find vintage items on eBay and Etsy. ;)
Title: Re: Eastwood Movie Challenge, Week Six: The Beguiled, Play Misty For Me
Post by: Charlie on March 13, 2016, 09:10:24 PM
Oh man... I forgot how crazy that girl was!  Brings back memories of when my roomate's girlfriend would show up at the apartment looking for him (because he didn't want to be found), wouldn't leave and then slept in his bed waiting for him.  I would call and tell him that she was over and towards the end he wouldn't even bother coming back to the apartment...  I'd make her breakfast in the AM and she would leave.
Title: Re: Eastwood Movie Challenge, Week Six: The Beguiled, Play Misty For Me
Post by: Matt on March 13, 2016, 09:11:42 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/kZsoeVo.jpg)

I don't think they're still in business. But you can find vintage items on eBay and Etsy. ;)

I didn't even think to look. Thanks. :)  Nothing I like right now, mainly jackets, but I'll keep checking for more shirts like the Misty shirt.
Title: Re: Eastwood Movie Challenge, Week Six: The Beguiled, Play Misty For Me
Post by: exit00 on March 19, 2016, 07:35:32 AM
Just watched a documentary on Roberta Flack on Showtime and there's a couple of segments in the film talking about Clint using her song The First Time Ever I Saw Your Face in Play Misty For Me.  Clint had called her at her home in Virginia and her mother told her that some man named Clint Eastwood was calling for her.  And Clint told her that he wanted to use the entire length of the song (5:16) in the movie and didn't want her to shorten it which surprised Flack.

Thought folks here would find this interesting.....