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Title: Who saw JERSEY BOYS? Members' Comments (NO SPOILERS, PLEASE)
Post by: KC on June 18, 2014, 06:39:01 PM
It's time to get our traditional "members' comments" threads started.

We welcome all thoughts and comments and even full-fledged reviews of the film, but please... NO SPOILERS IN THIS THREAD. If you feel that what you want to say about the film may spoil it for those who haven't yet seen it, then please post in our SPOILERS thread for Jersey Boys:

http://www.clinteastwood.org/forums/index.php?topic=9888.0
Title: Re: Who saw JERSEY BOYS? Members' Comments (NO SPOILERS, PLEASE)
Post by: Christopher on June 18, 2014, 06:41:31 PM
I was just wondering earlier today when these threads were going to be posted. ;D

No comments yet obviously, but I'm currently planning on seeing this Friday afternoon.
Title: Re: Who saw JERSEY BOYS? Members' Comments (NO SPOILERS, PLEASE)
Post by: KC on June 18, 2014, 06:43:48 PM
I posted the threads at the request of a member who's seen a festival screening. :)
Title: Re: Who saw JERSEY BOYS? Members' Comments (NO SPOILERS, PLEASE)
Post by: higashimori on June 18, 2014, 07:19:58 PM
I posted the threads at the request of a member who's seen a festival screening. :)

 Thanks, KC!!  ;)

At The Champs-Elysées Film Festival '' Jersey Boys " was The Premier in France last Monday!  8)
It was a piece of real entertainment!!  It was not as usual musical comedy, it was something much more! O0
I really enjoyed " Jersey Boys ", I was excited from the beginning to the end!! :D  And I'm sure that almost audience too! Cinema had been filled more than 90%. The audience applauds much when the ending roll began, and it lasted for a while!! O0  I've never seen to be applauded in this way for Clint's movie before!   ::)
Also I was happy to know that Kyle has participated in the music team! and Rowdy was there!! 8)

Thanks, Mr. Eastwood for making " Jersey Boys " !! :)
Title: Re: Who saw JERSEY BOYS? Members' Comments (NO SPOILERS, PLEASE)
Post by: Sylvie on June 19, 2014, 12:05:30 AM
(http://cdn-premiere.ladmedia.fr/var/premiere/storage/images/racine/film/jersey-boys-3802172/69333738-27-fre-FR/Jersey-Boys_portrait_w193h257.jpg)

I saw it yesterday afternoon, we were only 3 in the wide movie theatre, an old couple and I. And no one after us ... at 5pm.

If this couple seemed to like it a lot (they knew all the songs by heart !), I did not share their enthusiasm and even found it a little bit  ... boring  :(

Perfect in every detail, light, places, old cars,  ...  but none of the actors was good "to me" ... maybe am I too severe in my critics, but it was a very academic movie.

I had  already listened to some of the songs before on the radio, but had never heard about this Band,   and I definitely don't like the main singer's voice, sorry for all the ones who love it  ...  :-\

It is the first time I am so disappointed by a Clint Eastwood movie ... and I don't like it that at all :'(.

Go and see it by yourselves of course, higashimori is so enthusiastic that  I may have missed something important in this movie .
Title: Re: Who saw JERSEY BOYS? Members' Comments (NO SPOILERS, PLEASE)
Post by: Christopher on June 20, 2014, 05:11:35 PM
The following is also posted in the spoilers thread, though I did go on to include a spoiler in that thread. So here's just the non-spoiler section of that post, slightly edited to fit into this thread better.

I saw Jersey Boys at the first matinee today. The theater wasn't full by any means, but it really was a nice crowd there. It's been a while since I've seen a movie with that size of a crowd honestly (of course sometimes I make it to weekday matinees, as opposed to an opening Friday afternoon). The crowd was made up of mostly older adults--I hope I can say that without getting myself into trouble. :D

I enjoyed the movie. I really enjoy the song "Can't Take My Eyes Off of You." That one has always been a favorite of mine anyhow, and I'm familiar with a lot of the other songs from the Four Seasons. I could tell that a lot of the other people in the theater enjoyed the movie as well, and some were even quietly singing along during the closing credits.

I might try to make it back to see the movie before it leaves theaters at some point here in the near future. O0
Title: Re: Who saw JERSEY BOYS? Members' Comments (NO SPOILERS, PLEASE)
Post by: Macpherson on June 25, 2014, 02:42:32 PM
Clint prowls his constituency with fluidity, assurance and ease, producing a meditation on the real price of fame.....
That said, it is an intensely enjoyable movie and had the audience I was with clapping and cheering at the end!!
Performances and production values were spot on and the music was a joy and brilliantly delivered and staged.
To me though, this was not a musical , but an engrossing and involving drama, (infused with great humour), where music is the path out of poverty and petty crime.
People left the cinema with big smiles on their faces...many promising to return and see it again.....as I will, to savour the details.
Bright and breezy it may be on the surface, but this remains a Clint Eastwood film and to quote one reviewer, "He strikes as many blue notes as high notes."
Thoroughly recommended and totally in tune with the Eastwood canon.
 :) :)
Title: Re: Who saw JERSEY BOYS? Members' Comments (NO SPOILERS, PLEASE)
Post by: philo on June 26, 2014, 10:51:04 AM
I liked it.
Philo.
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Post by: Lin Sunderland on June 26, 2014, 12:59:26 PM
WOW! What a blast from the past. Great to see you posting Philo.

Glad you liked Jersey Boys.  I hope to see it soon then I can pass an opinion. 

It has been mentioned in the Radio 4 Film program and a couple of other talk shows. It seems to be getting the thumbs up over here in the UK.  :)
Title: Re: Who saw JERSEY BOYS? Members' Comments (NO SPOILERS, PLEASE)
Post by: KC on June 26, 2014, 07:04:09 PM
Great to see you post again, Philo! :D
Title: Re: Who saw JERSEY BOYS? Members' Comments (NO SPOILERS, PLEASE)
Post by: Sylvie on June 27, 2014, 06:41:56 AM
Great to see you post again, Philo! :D

 Oh ! YES ! :)
Title: Re: Who saw JERSEY BOYS? Members' Comments (NO SPOILERS, PLEASE)
Post by: AKA23 on July 10, 2014, 08:58:24 AM
For those who have not yet seen this, here is a non-spoiler review:

I saw "Jersey Boys" too. Overall, I thought it was a decent film. Eastwood knows music, and his decision to use mostly Broadway actors who had previously played these characters on the stage was a good choice. In addition, Eastwood's decision to have the actors sing live also works well, as it adds a degree of authenticity to this project that gives it an added credibility. Christopher Walken's supporting performance is also good, and I liked the actress who played a minor supporting role as a reporter.

However, despite these positive elements, for me this really wasn't a very enjoyable film to watch.  My well publicized reservations about this film centered around it being a musical, but what I found most surprising about the way Eastwood directed the film version is that it really isn't a musical at all. In transforming the Broadway musical from the stage to the screen, Eastwood and the screenwriters chose to place the music in the background, and to foreground the back story. As a result, there are very few musical numbers which are heard in their entirety. Eastwood is constantly cutting down the musical numbers and shifting back to the plot. In my opinion, this was a huge mistake.

The reason why is that what is left is a pretty run of the mill, by the numbers musical biopic with all the usual elements we have come to expect from this type of film. The rise and fall of the band, relationships being formed and then breaking apart, and the usual family drama. Since we've all seen this story told many times before, none of it is really very interesting to watch on film. This is why I found the film to be so puzzling. To me, the attraction of filming this project was that it was a musical. While I personally don't like musicals, many do, and to me,  this is what is new and different and unique about this project. Absent the musical factor, there's really nothing special about this play, yet rather than making the music the centerpiece, Eastwood chose to sideline it. The songs should be the star, but in Eastwood's film, they are not.

For many of the above reasons, I came way with feeling that this project really wasn't a good fit for Eastwood as a director. The film is very slow, the cinematography is quite dull and monochromatic, and Eastwood's preference for human drama, which usually works well on film, ends up crowding out the more unique and interesting elements of this project. The film lacks vitality, it lacks energy, and it lacks warmth. A film of this kind should be fun and bright, not dull and ponderous, but this film makes it seem like a horrible experience to have been a member of the Four Seasons.  In my opinion, Eastwood tries too hard to transform this film into the type of dark and brooding human dramas that he enjoys making, but his attempts to do so don't fit the tone of this project or the desire of the audience to feel energized and to feel the incredible highs that must accompany being a member of a band that was so popular for so long.

Some parts of the movie work well, and overall, I think this is a decent film. The film is worth a viewing, but I can't say that I'll  have the desire to see it again.
Title: Re: Who saw JERSEY BOYS? Members' Comments (NO SPOILERS, PLEASE)
Post by: Perry on July 18, 2014, 02:53:45 PM


Not that it really matters to Eastwood, but Jersey Boys will be his 4th bomb @ the Box Office in a row. One hopes American Sniper has a better reception. Though I thought the movie was decent it pales to the Play.
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Post by: The Schofield Kid on July 19, 2014, 03:34:49 AM

Not that it really matters to Eastwood, but Jersey Boys will be his 4th bomb @ the Box Office in a row. One hopes American Sniper has a better reception. Though I thought the movie was decent it pales to the Play.

According to imdb, the film has made 41.7 million dollars in the USA in 4 weeks. Not a bad bomb. ???

http://www.imdb.com/chart/?ref_=hm_cht_sm
Title: Re: Who saw JERSEY BOYS? Members' Comments (NO SPOILERS, PLEASE)
Post by: Perry on July 20, 2014, 11:54:28 AM


It had a 40 mill budget. Which means it will have to make @ least 80-90 mill to break even. Not happening. I await American Sniper.
Title: Re: Who saw JERSEY BOYS? Members' Comments (NO SPOILERS, PLEASE)
Post by: The Schofield Kid on July 20, 2014, 03:06:52 PM

It had a 40 mill budget. Which means it will have to make @ least 80-90 mill to break even. Not happening.

Take into account overseas box-office and it will.
Title: Re: Who saw JERSEY BOYS? Members' Comments (NO SPOILERS, PLEASE)
Post by: Christopher on July 20, 2014, 06:28:24 PM
Take into account overseas box-office and it will.
Plus all the Blu-ray/DVD rentals and sales, TV rights. Even if a movie doesn't make its money back at the domestic box office, it still has a variety of different venues where it can continue to pull in money.

It would have been nice to see it be considered a success, but realistically, I didn't really expect it to be a huge commercial film.
Title: Re: Who saw JERSEY BOYS? Members' Comments (NO SPOILERS, PLEASE)
Post by: The Schofield Kid on July 20, 2014, 07:05:38 PM

It would have been nice to see it be considered a success, but realistically, I didn't really expect it to be a huge commercial film.

It was never going to be a moneymaker like the big summer blockbusters but Clint has never made a film like that or nowdays set out to.
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Post by: dan_1963 on July 31, 2014, 07:57:18 AM
I went in with high hopes but was somewhat disappointed. The movie certainly had a lot of great elements but in the end I didn't really develop  much sympathy for any of the characters (aside from Frankie's poor wife). Instead of "Jersey Boys," maybe he should have called it "Jersey Punks" ... and had someone take them all out in the end.

That said, the closing scene, the big sing-and-dance a-long, was terrific, so I'd tend to agree with the person above who suggested the music should have been more central.
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Post by: Gant on August 02, 2014, 12:44:09 AM
I'm in agreement with most of the posts here, especially Aka and Sylvie...

For me the film just didn't gel... It felt like two films to me.. The crime/mob story and the musical story... and it was obvious to me which Eastwood was more interested in... I thought most of the acting was ok but not exceptional... I am a fan of the Four Seasons and just didn't think the music came alive here... Just watch a film like  Philip Kaufman's excellent The Wanderers to see how cinematic Vallis music can be... The songs really come alive in that movie and they just don't in Jersey Boys...
To be fair I don't think the bands story really holds up as all that interesting when stripped of all the songs and I much preferred the stage musical....

That said... The final segment is great .... But probably because it reminded me a lot more of the stage show..

Minor Eastwood.... 
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Post by: AKA23 on August 04, 2014, 01:04:17 PM
Gant, it sounds like your view tracked pretty closely with mine, but since I didn't see the stage show, and you were a big fan of it, I'd be interested to hear your thoughts more in depth. Where did things go wrong? What do you feel was done well in the stage show that wasn't done well in the film, and why? In your opinion, do you feel like Eastwood just wasn't the right director for this material, or does the responsibility for the poor transfer lie elsewhere?
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Post by: Gant on August 10, 2014, 12:01:07 AM
First off.... I certainly didn't think Jersey Boys was a bad film, I certainly enjoyed parts of it and thought some of the performances were quite good, especially Walkern... It's Been a couple of weeks now and I kinda feel like maybe seeing it again...
For me tho  it just didn't quite gel.... The guy who played the lead as Valli was ok, could obviously sing and looked right, but somehow just didn't set the movie alight for me. He just didn't manage to capture Frankie Vallis charisma ..
When this project was first announced I was excited because knowing the story I thought Eastwood would really bring out the grittiness of the crime element... and on that aspect of the story he does quite well... The problem for me is that, when stripped of a lot of the music the story that's left is actually a bit flimsy... What worked in the stage show was the bombardment of killer songs, one after the other.... Without that it all seems a little flat and lacking verve... As I mentioned previously... Valli's music  can be cinematic, anyone who's seen The Wanderers can testify to that... In that film the music really comes alive in a very gritty little film in a way that here it just doesn't...
To be fair...I can't really see how the film could be that much improved, I don't feel it could have been done much better by another director, maybe that's why the script had  hung around so long before being picked up....
I really felt that in this film the music was kinda secondary whereas in the stage show it was front and centre with the story linking the songs... I'm not a massive fan of musicals but somehow it really worked on stage in a way that it didn't on screen....
A lot have reviews have remarked how good the period detail in the film is... but another criticism from me is that everything looked a little too shiny and new... I often feel that way about period films... Again, look to The Wanderers to see how it should look....
Title: Re: Who saw JERSEY BOYS? Members' Comments (NO SPOILERS, PLEASE)
Post by: AKA23 on August 10, 2014, 01:31:06 PM
First off.... I certainly didn't think Jersey Boys was a bad film, I certainly enjoyed parts of it and thought some of the performances were quite good, especially Walkern... It's Been a couple of weeks now and I kinda feel like maybe seeing it again...
For me tho  it just didn't quite gel.... The guy who played the lead as Valli was ok, could obviously sing and looked right, but somehow just didn't set the movie alight for me. He just didn't manage to capture Frankie Vallis charisma ..
When this project was first announced I was excited because knowing the story I thought Eastwood would really bring out the grittiness of the crime element... and on that aspect of the story he does quite well... The problem for me is that, when stripped of a lot of the music the story that's left is actually a bit flimsy... What worked in the stage show was the bombardment of killer songs, one after the other.... Without that it all seems a little flat and lacking verve... As I mentioned previously... Valli's music  can be cinematic, anyone who's seen The Wanderers can testify to that... In that film the music really comes alive in a very gritty little film in a way that here it just doesn't...
To be fair...I can't really see how the film could be that much improved, I don't feel it could have been done much better by another director, maybe that's why the script had  hung around so long before being picked up....
I really felt that in this film the music was kinda secondary whereas in the stage show it was front and centre with the story linking the songs... I'm not a massive fan of musicals but somehow it really worked on stage in a way that it didn't on screen....
A lot have reviews have remarked how good the period detail in the film is... but another criticism from me is that everything looked a little too shiny and new... I often feel that way about period films... Again, look to The Wanderers to see how it should look....

I would agree that "Jersey Boys" is not a bad film. Eastwood is too good a director to make a film that is bad at this point in his career. At the same time, I don't think it was a very entertaining film either. It sounds like for you the decision to place the songs in the background rather than front and center hurt the final product. I would agree with that assessment. At the same time though, like with much of Eastwood's recent work, I think the flaws in this film lie mostly with the script. It simply wasn't structured well or ready to be filmed in my opinion. To me, this was also the case with "Invictus," "Hereafter," "J. Edgar," and "Trouble with the Curve." It seems like with more work on the script a lot of these structural problems could have been resolved. This begs the question, since this has been a problem that many have observed in Eastwood's recent work, why does Eastwood continue to persist in going ahead with projects when the script for those projects is weak?
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Post by: Gant on August 12, 2014, 01:13:18 PM
The one saving grace is the end sequence which I thought was great... and reminded me a lot of the stageshow...
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Post by: Perry on August 12, 2014, 02:31:46 PM


 I'm under the impression anyone who saw the original play doesnt care for Eastwood's film......
Title: Re: Who saw JERSEY BOYS? Members' Comments (NO SPOILERS, PLEASE)
Post by: The Schofield Kid on August 13, 2014, 12:22:28 AM

 I'm under the impression anyone who saw the original play doesnt care for Eastwood's film......

I liked both.
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Post by: don strouds combover on September 11, 2014, 04:03:13 PM
What worked in the stage show was the bombardment of killer songs, one after the other.... Without that it all seems a little flat and lacking verve... As I mentioned previously... Valli's music  can be cinematic, anyone who's seen The Wanderers can testify to that... In that film the music really comes alive in a very gritty little film in a way that here it just doesn't...

I really felt that in this film the music was kinda secondary whereas in the stage show it was front and centre with the story linking the songs... I'm not a massive fan of musicals but somehow it really worked on stage in a way that it didn't on screen....
A lot have reviews have remarked how good the period detail in the film is... but another criticism from me is that everything looked a little too shiny and new... I often feel that way about period films... Again, look to The Wanderers to see how it should look....

Well said, The Wanderers shows that Rock n Roll ( through Dion , The Seasons and Smokey Robinson) was integral to young peoples lives in that time period, it was a constant in their existance and couldn't be marginalised.
I also agree with the "shiny" period films, according to some filmakers cars didn't collect dust before 1966!!
Again as you said, The Wanderers (1979) did it better, watch it for a masterclass in that kind of cinematic storytelling.
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Post by: Perry on September 11, 2014, 06:35:47 PM

The Wanderers...One of the best movies of 1979. Great flick. Own it on DVD.
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Post by: Hemlock on September 26, 2014, 10:01:29 AM
Well it seems Jersey Boys is going to be the first Eastwood-film that`s going straight to DVD in Finland.Obviously it makes sense since it wasn`t huge hit at the states (or was it?) and not that many people even know about Frankie Valli and the guys in Finland.Still it`s a shame but I´ll try to catch it when the DVD is out  :(
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Post by: antonis on September 27, 2014, 11:17:12 AM
Well it seems Jersey Boys is going to be the first Eastwood-film that`s going straight to DVD in Finland.:(

Having the same problem here,with the Greek distributor.I emailed them, plus a number of critics, a few times to complain (well the last time I wasn't that polite) but..... I saw the film today.
It was a pleasant surprise.Very well made,as expected of course, nice rhythm and a fresh visual style from Mr Eastwood.There were no half lighted faces this time to distract me :P
Will watch it again soon enough.
Highly recommended.
4,5/5