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Actually, according to Robert Lorenz, Clint made some pictures which were not passion projects but kept him busy. Among those pictures, Robert Lorenz quoted Blood Work and Jersey Boys. Some film critics thought that Jersey Boys would have been a better fit for Martin Scorsese, since it is about some Italian American guys which were linked to the mob. Even Joe Pesci was in the story.

I agree with you, AKA23: Clint wanted to make a musical. He was a little frustrated that A Star Is Born did not come to fruition when he was involved in. Then, he decided to make Jersey Boys instead.

I enjoyed the film, although it is not among his best, because I found it quite refreshing, after some serious dramas like J. Edgar, Hereafter or Invictus. I have seen the play in the West End area of London, England, nearly one year after the film was released. I enjoyed the play which was joyfuller than the film. I noticed that one particular song which I like was missing in the film: that song is Beggin. Actually, the song scene was shot but not included in the final cut. Frankie Valli and Tommy DeVito were not particularly happy with the film. Tommy DeVito was pissed off by the way he was depicted in the film.

In my opinion, among all the biopics Clint has made, Bird is the best one. And that was really a passion project for Clint.

It was 10 years ago today that my wife and I saw Jersey Boys on Broadway.  8) 8) 8)

Did the play help you to appreciate the film?

At least, now we can have the certainty that Juror #2 is really completed.
Unlike most of Warner Bros films to be released this year, Juror #2 has no trailer and no poster online yet.
However, I would expect to see a trailer this summer. Or maybe, on Clint birthday, who knows?
About the release date, it will likely happen this fall. What do you think?

Hey malpaso_PL,
You are welcome.
Your book sounds good. Really. I think that I will order it, when being available. Indeed, the Dollars trilogy is very important in Clint career. Those Sergio Leone films are still popular all around the world. Generally, they are even appreciated by people who are not Clint fans. Actually, I discovered Clint with The Good The Bad And The Ugly and For A Few Dollars More, 34 years ago.

Every Which Way But Loose is not among the most critically acclaimed Clint films, for sure, but it is among the most successful ones. Cinematographically speaking, it is not very interesting. But in many ways, it is a personal film and a new departure for Clint. Actually, Thunderbolt And Lightfoot announced the comedies Clint made in late 70s and early 80s. Every Which Way But Loose shows a lot of his own personality, I think. The fact Clint chose to make that film and turned down many great opportunities in the same decade, such as The Towering Inferno, Sorcerer or Apocalypse Now, showed that he was very confident in his star power. In fact, most of the films Clint made in the 70s were pretty small films. Which is quite surprising because his box office star status was at its peak during that decade. But it was also part of the Malpaso Company style and economic policy, I guess. Though Every Which Way But Loose is still a charming film, I think that its sequel, Any Which Way You Can, is among the worst Clint films. I used to like that sequel, when I was a teenager.

The Mule is a good film and his last successful film at the box office. It is like a lighter version of Gran Torino, in some ways.

What do you think about his next film, Juror #2 ? What are your expectations for this one ? Will it be his last one like some seem to think ?

Hello malpaso_PL,
Congratulations for your book :)
It seems promising and ambitious.
I have so many books on Clint, mostly in French and English.
The last one I bought is the book from author Ian Nathan.
I am still interested in reading new analysis and studies on Clint films.
About your book: does it cover all his films or only the ones he directed ?
By curiosity, which are your favorite Clint films as an actor and as a director ?

Yes, that is some very good news!
I hope that some other news about the release date and the trailer are coming soon.

Finally, Juror #2 is not going to Cannes Film Festival.
However, two Warner Bros films will be there but out of competition: Horizon: an American Saga directed by Kevin Costner and Furiosa (Mad Max prequel) directed by George Miller.
A couple days ago, Warner Bros presented its 2024 slate at Cinemacon: nothing about Juror #2.

nice interview,
I bet Juror #2's performance will play a strong role in Eastwood's future plans or decisions. If it turns out to be actually great, I wouldn't be surprised to see him directing another one.

Maybe, maybe not. If Juror #2 was great, it would be a good occasion for Clint to finish his career on a high note.

Interesting article. However, there is no official news. About retirement, Robert Lorenz just said never say never with Clint. At this point of his career and his life, the fact that Clint is slowing down is not particularly surprising. According to the article, Juror #2 may be released in the first half of 2024. Then we have to see the trailer and the poster yet. At first sight, this film is not a summer film but why not ? What do you think ?

Yes, I am a little disappointed too: we have no real news about Juror #2. However, I do not think that it will be released before next fall. In fact, Warner Bros has a busy calendar this year. Moreover, releasing a courtroom drama in the middle of summer would be inappropriate. Who knows ? Maybe it will be shown at Cannes Film Festival, even if its chances are thin, according to Deadline. About Clint future, I think that he will make some other films, as long as he is healthy. I hope seeing him as an actor again, even if he prefers directing than acting. But I would not like seeing him just playing Clint Eastwood, even if it is enjoyable. I mean I would like seeing him playing against type role, like Anthony Hopkins in The Father, for instance.
The fact that his children were interviewed is not so surprising, since it was for Carmel Magazine, which is not a film magazine but a community magazine.

Hi everyone,
Here is an article from Carmel Magazine, Spring 2024 issue:

Hi everyone,
This is not really a news. Not yet at least. World of Reel talks about Juror #2 chances going to Cannes Film Festival.

Hi everyone,
It seems that we have to wait a while before having some news about Juror #2.
Since it is supposed to be released this fall, the trailer would be available this summer.
What are your exact expectations on this film?

Hi everyone. I wish you a Happy New Year :)

According to World of Reel, Juror #2 will be released in the Fall.
Since the source is from a Twitter account, its reliability is not guaranteed.

From World of Reel website, some speculations on the films which could go to Cannes Film Festival next year.
Juror #2 is mentioned. Would you want Juror #2 to go to Cannes ?

General Discussion / Re: Thunderbolt and Lightfoot (1974)
« on: December 04, 2023, 02:23:48 AM »
Thunderbolt and Lightfoot is also one of my favorites. I think it is underrated and forgotten, even by some Clint fans. Maybe because it is not a Warner Bros film, nor directed by Clint. In fact, Clint seemed unhappy with United Artists and the way they promoted the film, since he would have canceled his three films contract with them after that film. Moreover, Jeff Bridges was nominated by the Academy Awards for his acting performance but not Clint. However, this film easily stands as one of the best Clint films made in the seventies, along with The Outlaw Josey Wales, Dirty Harry, High Plains Drifter, Escape From Alcatraz, Play Misty For Me, The Beguiled, The Gauntlet and Magnum Force. I particularly like the chemistry between Clint and Jeff Bridges, the general atmosphere, the road trip theme, how American landscapes and sky were filmed, the Paul Williams song ? Where do I go from here ?. I think that the story is not the most interesting thing in this film, not in its first half at least. Thunderbolt and Lightfoot probably influenced Clint in some of his future artistic choices (The Gauntlet, Every Which Way But Loose, Bronco Billy, Honkytonk Man, A Perfect World, The Mule). Even in The Outlaw Josey Wales, the scenes between Clint and Sam Bottoms are a little reminiscent of Thunderbolt and Lightfoot. Anyway, that was an important film for Clint, Jeff Bridges and Michael Cimino.

Yes, I am sure about this, AKA23.
That interview was published on Positif (a French magazine on cinema) in April 2005. Clint was interviewed by Michael Henry Wilson. Unfortunately, from internet, I do not have the access to that interview.
Once again, Clint briefly evoked the possibility that Frankie committed suicide but it was not really an assertion.
Generally, Clint does not like to explain his films. He prefers to let moviegoers feeling and thinking by themselves and finding their own answers.

You are right about the fact Mystic River also has an open ending: we do not know whether Sean Divine will arrest Jimmy Markum for the murder of Dave Boyle or not. In my opinion, Sean Devine will not arrest Jimmy Markum. However, Jimmy is conscious about the fact Sean knows what happened.

Here is the cover of that magazine issue (for the interview on Million Dollar Baby):

Clint also gave an interview to Les Cahiers du Cin?ma for Million Dollar Baby, which made the cover in March 2005:

I don't think I've ever heard that about Frankie taking his own life. Was that a theory for the movie? It's been years since I saw it, but that definitely didn't enter my mind back when I watched it.

Actually, I remember that I read an interview in which Clint said that Frankie may have committed suicide but he was not absolutely positive about that possibility. He said that it is up to the beholders to imagine Frankie destiny.

Well, since I asked you that question, I will give you my answer:

First of all, I do not think that Frankie committed suicide, although some moviegoers speculated and tried to explain on internet that Frankie actually committed suicide because he prepared two adrenaline syringes at least, instead of only one for Maggie. They also explained that Mo Chuisle could also mean my pulse. In the film, that expression was translated by my darling, my blood. I do not think that Frankie will be back at the gym. If you remember, the last shot of the film, before the ending credits, shows the pie place with the silhouette of Clint sitting inside: then, did he buy it ? I am not sure. That pie place represents one of the happiest moments in the film but it could also symbolize death because Frankie made an allusion to his own death while finishing his pie, when he came there for the first time with Maggie. Obviously, Frankie symbolically and emotionally killed himself when he helped Maggie to die. My hopes are that he went to find his own daughter and a little bit of peace and salvation. However, in many ways, like in some other Clint films, Frankie probably became an angel of death, a ghost or a drifter.
To me, Million Dollar Baby remains the best film Clint did in the 21st century and his best role in that same century.
This film seems very simple but it is so rich and complex beneath the surface.

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