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Off-Topic Discussion / Re: 2018 Movie Discussion
« on: October 29, 2018, 08:27:13 PM »
I am refusing the Halloween series this round....

Michael is a MINIMUM by the timeline 61 years old.

I mean can a 61 year old maniac still be that strong? Swinging an ax that long has to cause arthritis in the shoulder.

Just saying....his mask should have age lines.

Clint Eastwood Westerns / Re: Hang' Em High is highly underrated...
« on: September 27, 2018, 09:08:04 AM »
You know, when I read this thread my first thought was "Hang em high? Whatever!!" I really in my mind dismissed it, initially.

But when I REMEMBERED how impacting the movie was, I had to take a breath and respond to this.

As far as western movies go, Hang em High was a top five movie of ALL of them, even if I don't rate it a top five of Clint Eastwood westerns.

It humanized capital punishment, which was a scary thing. It is easy when you believe bad guys get what they deserve, its different when you hear someone whimpering in fear because the hood has been put over their head by the hangman.

Or the scene where the brother says goodbye to the other one before they are hung...JESUS that still gives me chills.

Thats regarding the message of the movie, getting into the gristle of the movie is a seperate critique.

This was really Clints first walk away from the "Man with no name" type character he was used to playing, and it was a little awkward for me seeing him that way. Clean shaven, highly moraled, non ambiguous. I didnt really think it was a character he was made to play. Quite a bit of his western personas arent about what you see, or what he says, its about what you DONT see and what he DOESNT say.
All of that to basically say, I wasnt really comfortable with Clint being the "white hat" good guy, even if he did play it well for the movie, it wasnt really..."him" least to me.

For me this movie was made by an outstanding supporting cast that took away the notion that you were watching Clint out of his element...and it was very well cast.

The storyline in itself is worth praise, high praise. That frontier justice was often very cruel and unjust, and that good people died at the hands of a madman judge, like real life judge Roy Bean who was called "The hanging judge" because that was his solution to everything, no matter how slight or small the infraction.

Clear message, challenging premise, moral dilemma, strong cast....definitely a GRADE A western, above many, IMO.

Good to be back KC  :)

Sadly he went off to college and I moved so I haven't kept up with him. Maybe Ill go onto FB and see if I can find him.

Hopefully all good things. :)

The CEWB Movie Club / Re: CEWB Movie Club - Who wants in?
« on: September 27, 2018, 08:56:21 AM »
This will be awesome for me, honestly other than "THE BIRDS" I haven't really watched an Hitchcock film with a scrupulous eye....looking forward to it. Count me in.  :)

General Discussion / Re: The empty chair interview
« on: September 11, 2018, 09:27:37 PM »
I personally don't know AKA23, I am a little confused by the phenomenon myself.

I do agree, I think because of OJW's strong message about Native Americans, a lot of people thought CE was liberal and were disappointed that he came out as conservative, although personally I don't really care about politics as much as stance...and I believe the stance he made in OJW was genuine.

I think it was more the clownishness of the "chair interview", it seemed awkward and for the first time Clint looked feeble and....well honestly...old.

No one likes to see their legends fall.

General Discussion / The empty chair interview
« on: September 10, 2018, 10:55:26 AM »
Do you think that this political \ humorous stunt, hurt Clint Eastwood's reputation in Hollywood? I have always lurked on this site and did notice that the activity plummeted after that.

If you think it did, do you think it is something he could recover? If so, how?

Personally independent of that I think his work stands by itself.

There could be outside forces that lead to that statement as well.

Keep in mind that the movie was released in 1966, and there was a very strong anti Vietnam war movement happening. In all honesty I believe it was the first time in America's history, that the people questioned whether we belonged in that war.

That may have played a lot into needing to show how wasteful war is.

Exactly, and although was Tuco was "tough", he was hardly the toughest on the screen between the three. Honestly I don't see him winning a gunfight between either The Good or the Bad, even in a straight up one to to one.

I think the kid definitely projected his perspective into the movie and went a little "Gay subtext" with his assessment, but its a hell of a take on the story line.

Off-Topic Discussion / Re: THE ENDLESS, POINTLESS thread
« on: September 08, 2018, 09:04:08 PM »
LOLOL hold on Matt, I gotta get a grasp of this flight.

As in a "FLY LIKE AN EAGLE" moment flying turkey? Or as in Sully going a few feet and then needing to circle around and land in a pond?

See what I did there? :)



Clint Eastwood Westerns / Re: The secrets of High Plains Drifter
« on: September 08, 2018, 09:00:19 PM »
A sheriff had a town, a marshall had a territory.

In most cases the Marshall had rule over the local sheriff.


Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Happy Birthday bdc28
« on: September 08, 2018, 08:44:23 PM »
It breaks my heart that I had my head so up my own a$$ that I missed this thread.

You guys are the greatest and I miss coming here.

Then again, my child is grown....soooooooo I may be swinging by from time to time more often now.  :)

I love you guys.

I honestly think both of these westerns can stand individually, without having to run them against each other. Although both are westerns, they tell completely different stories.

HPD peels away the veneer of "humanity" and shows what really lies behind the polite faces...people at their worst. Taking advantage whenever they see fit, cowardly and having to be forced to do the right thing. It was definitely an essay on the human character, or at least the writers perspective of it.

OJW is different commentary, it was the bastardization of the US because of the Civil war. What people were turned into and what values were sacrificed in the name of survival. It also gave an introspective into the Native American as 'not the enemy", which at that time most western movies were prone to make them the easy enemy and savages, without actually explaining their story.

Both movies are masterpieces, they shouldn't be put against each other....they don't tell similar stories and where one will excel because of its story arc, the other will fail because it didn't follow.

Off-Topic Discussion / Re: The Celebrity Obituary Thread
« on: April 26, 2016, 01:40:46 PM »
I can completely concur there Elvis impact was much further reaching....he was the first phenom ever.

Off-Topic Discussion / Re: The Celebrity Obituary Thread
« on: April 26, 2016, 01:08:01 PM »
In being fair to Jed there are many of his points in his last post I completely agree with. Where I think the comparisons fall short is honestly, Prince.

There are many things I can say or not say about Elvis good and bad, but he was for all intent purposes a great singer whether you like the source or not.

MJ started a great singer as a child and morphed into one of the greatest stage performers that the world will ever see. Not comparible in any aspect between the two.

But I honestly believe thats where the comparisons stop. Where alot of people like to throw weight around to their favorites that this person or that person was a musical prodigy, Prince stands above them a way that all musicians young and old take note and completely respect him.

Take the song SOFT AND WET. Now where alot of people could take it or leave it, just listening to the music in and of itself...its unbelievably complicated rifts and melodies overlapping themselves....the type of music that you could say would be Miles Davis calibur. But this was composed by a 19 year old kid. Every note, every instrument.

Prince could play 27 instruments that are known, all on a high level. He composed extrodinary high level music that whether you liked the songs or not, were genius.

He also, and I am sorry I am calling this one....was a TRUE trailblazer. He let people question his sexuality for years with intent, absorbing their scorn and love at the same time. This was when it was NOT fashionable to be gay in any way.

And his range as a singer was also UNBELIEVABLY impressive.

See, this is why I dont think the comparisons match. MJ and Elvis, were for all intent purpose, just singers. They didnt write, they didnt compose. I mean MJ wrote some music but it was unbelievably basic even though catchy.

Prince, when you view his whole as a sum of many great individual parts, can never happen again.

THAT is the tragedy of his death. Something that great, had to end.

Off-Topic Discussion / Re: The Celebrity Obituary Thread
« on: April 26, 2016, 12:22:08 PM »
Jed, I have NO PROBLEM with you being a fan. But I cite fact after fact, you disregard them and keep trying to post over me like Im an insubordinate child and that by you insulting me you will throw me off my game.

FACT: You came here gently saying respect for Prince's death and gently "bringing in the drug thing" and belittling his efforts by comparison to Elvis and MJ.
FACT: You have been disputed by points you cant argue. That he did rip off Little Richard (no harm no foul) that he was a pedophile (he was having sex with Priscilla when she was a budding 14 years old) and the funniest portion of your post which I find hysterical....

Are you really saying that drugs could cloud Prince's legacy and using ELVIS as the barometer against it?? Seriously??? Elvis didnt have an orafice he didnt stick a drug or food into. His OWN BAND, and best friends said he was a slobbering drunk and a stoned slob at the his terrible old age of what.....42?

I dont sh*t on Elvis accomplishments at all, they are point of record and my opinion of him good or bad doesnt negotiate it. If me saying that Elvis was fallable, human and in many cases WRONG....bothers you I apologize that it bothers you.

But those are points of fact.....and respectfully Ill drop off on this because it is pointless to argue with die hard fans.

Off-Topic Discussion / Re: The Celebrity Obituary Thread
« on: April 26, 2016, 12:08:16 PM »
And allow me to say, Elvis was not the first NOR THE LAST to rip off R&B. He just went furthest with it. And honestly THAT part I dont have a problem with.

But I am sorry, Elvis couldnt even carry Prince's bags. And I say that as someone who spent most of his life NOT A FAN OF PRINCE!!!!

Off-Topic Discussion / Re: The Celebrity Obituary Thread
« on: April 26, 2016, 12:04:40 PM »
LMAO, I dont have a clue because I dont have the hero worship for Elvis that you do?

I paraphrase Little Richard. And you quoting Elvis to say "Oh I respected them..." doesnt mean a SHRED to me. He sure as hell as didnt pay them (note I mentioned that Elvis outright stole Hound Dog and Little Richard had NO respect for it but you dont cite that).

I love how you act like this isnt documented history....R&B PREDATED Rock and Roll. Hell Rock and Roll in and of itself WOULD NOT EXIST without use your phrase..."its influence".

The same can be said for Country music. It wouldnt exist if not for the Irish folk tunes that predated it.

I am not sure why you have such a problem with me NOT kissing Elvis a$$. Sorry I am not impressed with him.

Off-Topic Discussion / Re: The Celebrity Obituary Thread
« on: April 26, 2016, 11:48:39 AM »
Im sure he was heavily influenced by them. He could take their music without paying them a dime, I would be too.

Once again, revisionist history....but I am one for letting people hold illusions.

Off-Topic Discussion / Re: The Celebrity Obituary Thread
« on: April 26, 2016, 11:42:35 AM »
"I did say allegations, and that they clouded his career for me... they did, and well before he died. But, let me ask you this: if your claim that MJ didn't commit the crimes is because parents would never take money to keep it hushed up (and possibly protecting their children from the lightlight in so doing), then how do you explain parents who would make up those charges and put their kids through that for money? Bad parents are bad parents, but you have to admit to both sides of that coin, if you're going to use that as the stance that proves his innocence. "

I am not disagreeing with you Matt....I one hundred percent agree those parents are complete garbage. But I dont think EVERY SET of parents could be bought off. They went into it knowing they could bend Michael over for the money......

Sorry, I also have the same opinion of MOST of the women that claimed Bill Cosby raped them. Some of them true, yes. MOST of them true? Not at all.

Off-Topic Discussion / Re: The Celebrity Obituary Thread
« on: April 26, 2016, 11:36:02 AM »
Also, since we are on revisionist history...why not mention Elvis and his little problem with pedophilia. Lets please remember he got married as SOON as his gf turned legal age to do so...and they had been seeing each other for awhile. They met when she was what...14? 15?

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