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cigar joe
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« on: November 15, 2004, 04:14:43 PM »

Two Clint Eastwood Movies "Hang em High" and "Joe Kidd" were influenced by this nihilistic 1967 Spaghetti Western. Ideas, costumes, props, and whole scenes appear unchanged. Can you name it? ;)
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« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2004, 07:49:56 AM »

Can you name it? ;)

No I can`t ;D...but I`ll try to guess it The Great Silence ???
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« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2004, 10:05:49 AM »

Is it Once upon a time in the west.
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« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2004, 03:46:39 PM »

Hemlock you got it!

In TGS there is a scene where "Silence" the mute (Jean Louis Trigtignat) is asked by Pauliene (Vonetta McGee) why he doesn't answer her, and he reveals the scar that he recieved from having his throat cut by the outlaws who killed his family as a child. He pulls down his scarf and lifts his head, in Hang em High Clint does the exact same reveal to Ringo when Clint says the line "You better look at a man when you hang him". Its eerily almost an exact copy.

TGS takes place in high elevation Utah in the winter everyone is bound up in bearskin and buffalo robe coats. Klaus Kinsky ("Wild" from For A Few Dollars More) is the head bounty hunter. His headgear outfit consists of a scarf worn like a hood with a black flat brimmed hat hat on top of it he looks like a live gargoyle. Its exactly what Mingo wears in Joe Kidd.

Silence the mute  hired gun in TGS uses a Mauser Bolo Machine pistol as his chief weapon, the same gun used by Lamarr in Joe Kidd.

The Great Silence isn't Leone but its very intense. bloody, and very dark. It also has in its cast besides Klaus Kinsky, Luigi Pistilli (Groggy from FAFDM, Brother Ramierez from GBU), Mario Brega (Wallace from GBU, Nino from FAFDM) and Frank Wolf (McBain from OUTITW).

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« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2004, 08:06:52 PM »

In all the sources I've checked, including the IMDb, Christopher Frayling's Spaghetti Westerns, the excellent German reference work Das Western-Lexikon (by Joe Hembus and Benjamin Hembus) and Ciakmania, an Italian online database ( http://www.ciakmania.it/SchedaFilm.asp?IDFilm=16608 ), Corbucci's The Great Silence (Il Grande silenzio) was released in 1968, not 1967. Since Hang 'em High was filmed in the summer of 1967, it doesn't seem likely that there could have been much influence on it from the Corbucci film ... perhaps the influence went the other way around.. (The correct quote in  Hang em High is "When you hang a man, you better look at him." ;) )

 You may be right about Joe Kidd, however. :)

 Also, just for the record, the names of a couple of the actors you mentioned are slightly misspelled ... it should be Jean Louis  Trintignant, Klaus Kinski and Frank Wolff.
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« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2004, 04:26:40 AM »

thanks for the spelling corrections I was a bit tired. Huges Pocket Essential Spaghetti Westerns lists it as 1967 but it may have been a 1968 release.

Here are some screen cap pics from a German Site.


http://www.walther-nienburg.de/Kinski/Filme/silenzio.html

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