Eastwood Character Survivor

[D'Ambrosia]

AKA, you need to get in on this bud...

I like your last one Matt  PARDNER!  

[Christopher]

McCaleb, Matt? I liked the guy myself.

Do you suppose we'll ever agree on any of these picks?

[D'Ambrosia]

Yeah man, I'd pick an up and up ex-FBI guy over a wife stealer any day...

[Brendan]

Mitchell Gant & Dave Garver

[Matt]

Yeah man, I\'d pick an up and up ex-FBI guy over a wife stealer any day...

McCaleb was one of the most boring characters Eastwood has ever portrayed.  Since when do you have to LIKE a character to recognize how great a character is?

And the performances are a world apart.  McCaleb gets a C-, one of the worst, in my opinion.  Whereas Kincaid gets an A+++... easily within the very best performances Eastwood has ever given.

[D'Ambrosia]

Acting Performances are one thing but interesting characters are another.  McCaleb was an interesting character to me because his past, heart transplant, motivations and soforth...  Kincaid is just a photagrapher for National Geograpic who likes to have affairs with married women.  Much more character in McCeleb than Kincaid, in my opinion.  Acting performance,sure blewed McCeleb away, but this is character survivor not acting performce survivor...

[Matt]

But the performances bring the characters to life.  I see that the performances and the quality/interesting traits of the characters are connected.  A great performance of a multi-dimensional character should last longer in this game than a mediocre performance of a less interesting character... no matter how much you actualkly LIKE the character.

Is this only a popularity thread then?  Who we like most?  I thought it was for the best characters.

[Matt]

To illustrate my point... I wouldn't want to hang out and have dinner with Mitch Leary, but he's one helluva great character.  And the performance has a LOT to do with how great the character is.

[philo]

Well Matt ,

It is quite easy to say all that about McCaleb but in my case William Munny gets more on my nerves going on I don't know how many times about how his wife cured him, We know all that from the very start, I didn't need to hear it so many times, we did get the idea. I also didn't find the scenes where he thought he was dying very convincing either. If we are left with Munny in the top three then something is wrong somewhere .

Munny and Pulovski

[Christopher]

Eastwood's performance as McCaleb was one thing that really made Blood Work interesting to me. His performance was actually quite good, it's in his facial expressions.

[AKA23]

Well Matt ,

It is quite easy to say all that about McCaleb but in my case William Munny gets more on my nerves going on I don't know how many times about how his wife cured him, We know all that from the very start, I didn't need to hear it so many times, we did get the idea. I also didn't find the scenes where he thought he was dying.

HAHA...cool comments, Philo. I disagree with all that stuff you said about Munny, but it made me laugh. It's interesting how different Clint fans can have such different opinions. I haven't seen Unforgiven in awhile though. You certainly have a humorous and interesting perspective on the character!

[AKA23]

Ohh, I've been asked to join the game! Thanks D'Amb!

I agree with Matt on McCaleb, but I'm not SURE that he's the worst character and really deserves to be voted off at this stage. I wouldn't vote Kincaid off at this stage though either, D'Amb. Although I totally agree with you and Conan about the morality of it, so I'm kind of glad that other people see things my way on this issue and that I'm not the ONLY one.

For this one, I think I'm going to have to go with Pardner, even though I haven't seen the whole film, but what I did see, I really didn't like. Sorry Christopher if I need to pick another one, I'll do that later.

I kind of agree with Matt on McCaleb. Everything about Blood Work was terrible, and Eastwood's performance wasn't stellar, but one of the ONLY good things about the film was Eastwood. I'm not sure I want to vote it off at this early stage of the game. I'll have to think about it.

[D'Ambrosia]

Yeah but Matt it's always been a popularity contest.  Look back to previous Survivor games.  The ones we want to win and do not.  I mean if you as an individual like one character more than another you are more than likely going to vote for that character because you like him not because he gave an outstanding performance.  I've got to separate the two.  Sure performance enhances character, but when the character doesn't enhance the performance, the character still might be more interesting.  We are talking about Eastwoods Characters not Eastwood performances as acting as the character.  I can guarantee that Harry will make it to the last couple of posts, but let's face it, His acting in the Enforcer blows the acting in Dead Pool away.  That's not going to have a bearing on how people vote.  They are going to vote for whom they like the best not how well Eastwood performing.  When we post up lists of Favorites about other Eastwood stuff in other threads I am always prone to post up two lists.  My Favorites and what I think are the best.  In the real survivor game the best are usually gone first because they seem threatening  to the other survivors.   I watched many a movie where the acting has sucked but the characters are very interesting.  Vote as you will.  That's the fun of the game, the diversity of opinions as Little bill would say  "I don't like assassins, or men of low character.  Well will Munny is a man of low character killing woman and children, but that's not going to stop people from refraining form voting him off  because he is popular (to movie audiences).   Your right in when you say the acting performance has a direct effect on how people perceive the character, but hey man this is Survival.  You've got to take the good with the bad and with the ugly.

I just think that some people are voting based on the movie he is in, not his performance.  But you dont have to have a reason, you just have to post up your opinion....

Next Eastwood Survivor:  Eastwoods acting performaces. (Just kidding  )    

[D'Ambrosia]

Oh, and AKA, anyone can join the game, the more the better.  I just saw you one line last night with the rest of us and didn't know if you wanted to play?  You missed the first round so I figued you'd might skip this one.  Sorry for the lack of punuction in the last thread but when I type up responces on Word and Cut Copy and Paste them to here I get all this #8JQ1132 crap where all the commas and semi-colans and stuff go.  It's really a pain is the yin yang....

[misty71]

Mitchell Gant & Dave Garver

Oh not garver this early in the game!

mitchell gant and Frank Corvin, sorry space cowboys fans

[D'Ambrosia]

Oh, and Matt.  You asked about where they are sent when they get kicked off....  It's an island were they are all confined into talking to trees....

[Conan]

...William Munny gets more on my nerves going on I don't know how many times about how his wife cured him, We know all that from the very start, I didn't need to hear it so many times, we did get the idea.

  Haha, I've never thought of Munny like that.  Interesting point.

[Christopher]

I think Will Munny might just be trying to convince himself that he's been cured. He ain't like that no more - but ain't he?

Oh man, say the words "but ain't he" out loud. Doesn't that sound just so silly?

[misty71]

Oh man, say the words "but ain't he" out loud. Doesn't that sound just so silly?

lolol

William Munny gets more on my nerves going on I don't know how many times about how his wife cured him, We know all that from the very start, I didn't need to hear it so many times, we did get the idea.

I dont think Munny refers to it THAT much...not enough to be annoying, but it's true that we could have gotten the point after let's say.. the third time  

[AKA23]

That's enough knocking on Unforgiven guys! Come on, be careful, KC could be coming to get ya! Blow the whole place up! YOU DON'T LIKE UNFORGIVEN! b*$@hes!!! ARGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Then, maybe we don't hear from 'em again. I'm just warning y'all. Steer clear of all this Unforgiven bashing